Today's archery tip: how to check if your nocks are the right size for your string. Nock yourself out! === Follow me on Facebook: / nusensei
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@Liboo526 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I found this channel. absolutely amazing how nearly every question I've had as a new archer has been answered by this dude. 11/10 youtube channel
@susanholl59948 жыл бұрын
You just solved my weird horizontal spread problem. Could not figure out why I could shoot my husband's bow so much better. Now I know . Thanks so much for your videos!
@availabledark Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Watched over 15 archery videos before finally figuring out what my issue was. No one else even talked about this, and went into everything else.
@shuumai9 жыл бұрын
Finding the right combination of string material, number of strands, and serving material to fit a standard nock size can be helpful! Just learning to re-serve the centre serving has been beneficial. It's easier than it looks.
@suepalsbo81499 жыл бұрын
My youth club tried the finger test (to bounce the nock off the string) and discovered that *all* the commercially made strings are too fat for their nocks. So we were motivated to learn how to make our own strings, with several fewer strands, and that really helped to tune our bows and tighten the groups. [Your endless loop video, by the way, came out after we watched several other videos on string-making. I wish we had seen yours, first - it would have saved us a lot of frustration.]
@davidcarpenter92323 жыл бұрын
Yeah man ,,, your no-nonsense instruction ... Especially the kind of things that beginners should ,,, shouldn't worry about ... You have a real talent and a love for the art ... Thanks 👍👍👍 ... D
@mattludford52917 жыл бұрын
I was having some easton arrows made up recently and I was asked what combination I wanted on everything except nock size which I was told comes in one "standard" size. I tested these on my string and, while they did not move side to side, they did not pass the tap test. The suggestion of the guy in the store was to reduce the strand count of my string from 18 to 16. Seemed like a bit of a weird suggestion and the concept of me wanting a larger nock seemed to completely allude him.
@ironpirate89 жыл бұрын
Good video, this is sometimes overlooked. You hear that SNAP as it goes on, and you just know it's too tight.
@NUSensei9 жыл бұрын
I never realised that myself until I started making strings and changed out my nocks.
@GotCritified7 жыл бұрын
Truth be told i have not even seen a wooden arrow available with snap on nocks. Even the fiberglass shitz and carbon predators i got are supplied with straight slits and would drop of the string with slightest provocation, all to minimise wasted energy. I always found it funny when arrow clips on the string with this loud springy sound. Some people clip it on and off the string when they are resting, almost like a relaxing fidget spinner thing xD I think that unless you are making ur own slit in the shaft using a dremel/angle grinder, you cant really go too too wrong. . . . Yes i have seen a person shoot arrows with cut-in nocks xD
@WV5918 жыл бұрын
i wish there was a chart size for nock slip side. i can never get perfect replacement.
@OtterLakeFlutes4 жыл бұрын
I have some nocks that are a little tight and I wondered if it were some safety faux pas (or even taboo?) to abrade or drill a few thousandths of an inch off the throat or groove (whichever or both as needed) and so I'm glad to see the idea being thrown around by an expert. I am a trained and accomplished craftsman, the plastic nocks are newish (not old or brittle), and I do inspect before use and so I had a feeling, all things considered, this would be OK. Thanks. OW my eye!?! J/K
@Tystros4 жыл бұрын
Hi NUSensei, I noticed you do not seem to have any video on your channel about the topic of plastic nock vs self nock on wooden arrows - I'm wondering what I should buy, to me the idea of not having a piece of plastic on a wooden arrow sounds quite nice, plastic just feels out of place, so I'd be inclined to go with the self nock version. Would love if you could make a video on that topic! Cheers!
@bowman3211236 жыл бұрын
I've found out the hard way about having nocks too loose after having them come off of the string and causing a dry fire. No damage done that I could tell, but it sure gets your attention. (as well as looks from the people in adjoining shooting lanes)
@autobotsvsdecepticons91652 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good job explaining this issue.
@PBS-nm1uu3 жыл бұрын
love all your videos..
@vfc1860 Жыл бұрын
I'm not an Olympic shooter but a nock that is too loose can cause a dry fire and goodbye bow. I serve my own strings and find once served the serving string compresses and that must fit the nock just right. I sometimes shoot with a thumbring and the fit is even more important as the arrow is more prone to falling off if too loose. This is not as much of a problem with the Mediterranean draw. Please do a video on this.
@carlossalazar9728 жыл бұрын
it's no wonder I can't use the three under technique on my bow because my nocks always slip off the string when I attempt it.
@Droggelbecherbot6 жыл бұрын
I just got my first bow (rented). The shop rents these kits with a decent beginner bow, all the equipment etc, and let you choose between a couple of arrows for it. When it arrived I immeadiatly noticed that something is not right: super thick serving on the string, super thin nocks. It's so bad, you essentially have to rip the arrow off the string with force. I got on the phone with the shop and they guy was trying to tell me that this is normal and I shouldnt worry about it. Even when I said I would pay them for a string with a thinner serving he kept on telling me that this wasn't possible and that there is no such thing. He advised me to make the nocks wider with either a file or a lighter, but according to the internet, both these approaches are not a good idea. I'm so mad at this company, I can't even describe it.
@prabhakarsuryavanshi61285 жыл бұрын
Which shop ?
@77.88.7 жыл бұрын
Very good information that really helps! Thanks
@martinsayer819 жыл бұрын
Hi NUSensei Great videos, I really enjoy watching them. Will you be doing a video on what your current setup is at the moment - riser, limb model and length & poundage , string material and number of strands etc. Which arrows you use and what spine. And finally the stabilizer setup you use!!! Keep up the good work.
@NUSensei9 жыл бұрын
Check my "Assembling an Olympic Recurve" video for my bow setup.
@martinsayer819 жыл бұрын
NUSensei sorry, don't know how I missed that one, I thought I had seen all your videos!
@Andarthiel3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my frustrations at the moment. Had to get some Easton Inspire arrows spined at 630 due to my old ones being too long. But no one really told me they had bigger shafts than my old 500 spined arrows so I could not use my small N nocks from those as they will not fit on to the shaft (too small). The new nocks are ok but they are X nocks which don't have a small groove option for the larger diameter shaft. While I can fit these onto my string and they won't fall off, they are quite loose and I can still slide them up and down once I have attached them to the string (which feels really bad). I assume this is also the reason my groupings are a bit weird sometimes. As a result I had to get the highest strand (18 strand) bow string I could find for recurve just so my nocks fit better.
@fahlvfaust6773 жыл бұрын
Although not a big brand like easton .. Elong brand arrows nock are good enough, not too tight or too loose .. cheap does not mean it is not quality..suitable for archery accessory seekers whose price is not too high but has good quality.
@raymondbrown32162 жыл бұрын
My problem is that even thoe the k Nocks sit properly on the string and stay still when I twist the string when I fire the bow the nocks pop off the arrow and stay on the string but the arrow goes down range how do I correct this from happening? The nocks are factory nocks that came installed on the arrows.
@CaimanAlphaFoxtrotMike6 жыл бұрын
EXTRA THICC
@CC-eg3yy5 жыл бұрын
AND JOOSY
@stephenmayne48868 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this information.
@markhadley66724 жыл бұрын
I find using a thin serving 0.015 ish means I can add extra bcy under the centre serving to get best fit if necessary.
@fahlvfaust677 Жыл бұрын
Regarding factory strings made..Spanish Flex strings was the best for me..i use their carrera sk99 dyneema 18 strands 68", and ff plus 16 strands, both are good, i love their serving, my nock fit properly..
@antoniskatris10119 жыл бұрын
Great video all round. What I was quite impressed with was the nice and clean nocking point you have. I assume you use string serving material to tie them so can you make a video about it? I use serving string too but comes out a bit thick and chunky...
@NUSensei9 жыл бұрын
Check out my Making Bowstrings - How To Make An Endless Loop String video to see how I do it.
@golddee20407 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on showing how to use the dental floss or adding a bit of thread?
@McJaews6 жыл бұрын
Hey there. 8 months later, I'd like to explain it to you really quickly: Get some thin string, like dental floss or sewing string. Grab a length roughly the length of your forearm. Going too long doesn't matter much since thin string shouldn't be too expensive, and you'll be cutting off any excess anyway. Start by tying the string around your bow string and doing a simple knot. one string over the other and thrugh, then tighten. Take both ends around the string and make another knot. Repeat until you have the thickness/length you want. Going back over the parts you already made is normal for when you tie knocking points. I doubt you're still having issues this late after your comment, but I thought I'd write a reply just in case.
@SoundofAkhirah9 жыл бұрын
I've just bought 6 aluminium arrows for £16 and the nocks are way too tight, I have to apply quite a bit of force to even clip them on. I still have no idea on how they are going to perform.
@liamkaloy9 жыл бұрын
not sure if correct nock size is not so important for begginers... Actualy 2 things that made the bigest difference for me was to start using bow sling and to adjust the nock size (from a bit to tight to perfect). Imho it was even more important than using the correct arrow spine (again from almost OK, to perfect).
@NUSensei9 жыл бұрын
The effect of having a nock that is a bit too tight isn't as dramatic as having the wrong spine. But, it also depends on whether the throat is too tight (horizontal movement) or the slit (loss of energy). Most default nocks and servings don't match the nock slit but are fine for the throat. If the fit is a problem, then yes, it can cause problems.
@Windsong20016 жыл бұрын
They can also be widened using a Dremel tool with a small sanding attachment. Closing them to the desired size can be done by squeezing them with a pliers or vice usually without damaging them.
@jmcwilliams20098 жыл бұрын
Can the nock size impact whether the arrow stays on the bow arrow rest? I've started archery and I'm having issues keeping my arrows on the arrow rest at the beginning stages of my draw. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
@NUSensei8 жыл бұрын
Beginners often make the arrow fall off the rest due to squeezing their hand around the string. Keep the back of the hand flat and avoid forming "knuckles". Clenching the drawing the fingers will displace the string inwards, which knocks the arrow off.
@jmcwilliams20098 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this feedback. I've had this issue when I first started out with nock pinch. I've worked on my grip with practice and was able to eliminate it with practice bows that have higher angled arrow rests. Recently, I have noticed with practice bows that have flatter arrow rests, I have had trouble keeping arrows on the rests. When watching the video on the nock size, it made me wonder if this could be part of it (although I am still working hard on stabilizing my wrist and draw and on not gripping the bow string with these bows that have flat arrow rests). Nonetheless, thank you so much for the feedback and the great video series you are doing on archery on KZfaq. If possible, please don't stop producing more videos on archery; I've learned so much about archery through your videos.
@herrkelc7 жыл бұрын
new subscription here
@1czechit15 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@Yarky19 жыл бұрын
Hi NUSensei. I'm just starting whit archery and I watched all your videos plenty of times, they where very usefull to select the proper gear to start and learn some of the basics, since I'm still waiting to join an archery club and just practicing on my own. I hace a small request, could you explain (or make a short video better :D) how to make and adjust a fingersling?. I tried the tipical laces that are on internet but it get loose and sometimes I shoot unconfortably fearing for my bow to fall. Regards from the north of Spain!.
@mocknugget4 жыл бұрын
Yarky you are just scared that your bow will fall, every beginner will have that fear and you’ll need to overcome it, I’ll say that you already did because your comment is already 4 years old. By the way, how’s your progress in archery?
@robinfielding95062 жыл бұрын
My new arrows the nocks come off the arrows staying on the string.
@ChrisNojima8 жыл бұрын
What kind of horizontal spread can one expect from tight fitting nocks? The difference between a 10 and 9? or even more dramatic?
@NUSensei8 жыл бұрын
The 9/10 difference is probably going to happen enough to bug you.
@LeonColvet3 жыл бұрын
I bought a how that included 2 arrows When I tried it, first it was hard to nock the arrow then it didn't release the arrow, I tried to shoot it but didn't release, when I tapped the string of course the arrow didn't fall I had to buy new arrows
@grilli1446 жыл бұрын
Is it normal that the nock can move slighltly back and Forward on the string?
@LoFloShinobi3 жыл бұрын
Do you glue on your nocks and if so what do you use to do so?
@zorhis19966 жыл бұрын
do you have a video on where to put the nock ?
@kittylover35978 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips :D
@MainlyArchery9 жыл бұрын
Quite a bit of good information in there, nice! I must however say that nocks on beginner (and all other) arrows can be too tight, I've seen a couple of nocks stick on the string instead of leaving with the arrow.
@liamkaloy9 жыл бұрын
and sandpaper is a perfect cure for this. Just use fine or extra fine grit to get the nock to perfect fit. For me "perfect" is rather a bit to loose instead of a bit to tight.
@MainlyArchery9 жыл бұрын
that would not solve the problem. In my local archery club there are different thicknesses of strings and different nocked sizes of arrows. We explain to everyone how to check the fit but it's kinda hard to control what the kids grab in excitement. Sandpaper would not be my first choice to broaden the groove, it's way too easy to strip off the "latches" which make the nock click without actually broadening it at the deepest point of the nock, resulting in a still tight nock which does not click. drilling it out (with the appropriate size bit or even better, a reamer) seems like a better idea. Granted, the "latches" would need to be sanded down a little bit, otherwise the nock would likely still be too tight.
@MainlyArchery9 жыл бұрын
liamkaloy, I got a bit carried away. what I meant to say about sandpaper was that it was not idiotproof. Properly sanding has actually a lot more to it than meets the eye.
@shuumai9 жыл бұрын
MainlyArchery Probably sanding multiple nocks to fit the same is the bigger challange. Any single nock can be made to fit OK by itself. I've tried counting the number of times I nocked the arrow over a piece of sandpaper wrapped around the string to try to duplicate the result on other nocks. One of my concerns after drilling the throat of a nock out is leaving a sharp edge that my sanding method might not smooth enough. Never worried about it enough to take a tiny file to it or anything.
@MainlyArchery9 жыл бұрын
What I would do is drill with the appropriate size drill bit and cut a narrow strip of let's say 800 grit sandpaper, about 1-2mm wide. Drill the hole and soften up the edges with the narrow strip by letting it form a radius inside the throat of the nock. But there are of course multiple ways to do a certain task, in this case it seems personal preference is more of a factor than which work best, because they all would probably work fine.
@poodlefilmstrailer7 жыл бұрын
Does large groove overnocks exist ? I Keep searching everywhere and I just find small groove overnocks.
@gavinyoung70854 жыл бұрын
So mine failed to fall off the string when I tapped it, but then I drew the string about an inch and released and the arrow came off no problem. Is that close enough?
@NUSensei4 жыл бұрын
It'll be fine.
@SalveMonesvol8 жыл бұрын
Could you please check Grözer bows? They claim 300 fps from recurves, is it possible?
@mfish93748 жыл бұрын
While looking at arrows in a local archery store, I see many different kinds of nocks with different letter values. Is there a specific type of nock for recurve v compound?
@NUSensei8 жыл бұрын
It's actually based on what arrow you use rather than what bow you shoot. Certain arrows are compatible with certain nocks.
@TheFinmafia9 жыл бұрын
Great video! But if you could help me with a little problem that would be great. Ive heard that only S type nocks (i havent seen any options for it's size) fit my Beman ICS Hunter arrows, but the nock is simply too small for my Dacron B50 string. Should i try to buy different type nock or something?
@NUSensei9 жыл бұрын
You can either get a string with fewer strands, or replace the centre serving with a thinner serving thread.
@TheFinmafia9 жыл бұрын
NUSensei Allright thanks! I now have 16 strand string, so i think ill have to get 12 strand string, but can a 12 strand string withstand 55LBS draw weight on my 60 inch recurve bow?
@NUSensei9 жыл бұрын
Depends on the material. Technically speaking, it may be durable enough, but manufacturers (and many shooters) won't recommend going so low. I'd erring more on the 18-strand side; 16-strand minimum.
@TheFinmafia9 жыл бұрын
NUSensei But isn't 18 strands a thicker string?
@NUSensei9 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's also the recommended number of strands for stronger recurves, again depending on the material. You can get away with fewer strands for a thinner string, but performance-wise I wouldn't go below your current 16-strand. You may want to go for thinner serving instead of a thinner string.
@typhoon28272 жыл бұрын
Foot-long serving?
@wayne2wax8 жыл бұрын
There's a video which shows a way to Centre Serve a Bowstring with the serving ""tail"" running up inside the actual serving as you go along. It's a way to thicken up, for when your arrow nocks are too loose on existing serving diameter. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndCGjMqDncrQhY0.html (Serving a Bowstring, Hunting resource Video)
@fabianviola8 жыл бұрын
im thinking about buying pin nocks for my 660 carbon one arrows. can you tell me what size the pin is ? (not the part that goes into the arrow, but the pin over which the nock is placed)
@NUSensei8 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure actually. The ones I use are Easton Pin Nocks.
@fabianviola8 жыл бұрын
+NUSensei thank u for your fast response! would it be possible for u to measure them? i'm struggling with this because i found different pin nock sizes online (2.8 and 3.1 mm).
@MrPlanetmarz8 жыл бұрын
Good Day Sensei.. Just want to know who many string strand do you have in this video?
@NUSensei8 жыл бұрын
I believe that one was an 18-strand. I use a 16-strand now.
@windyblower12118 жыл бұрын
how do i find out how many strands i should use to make my string, nu?
@dory44987 жыл бұрын
JLo makes archery look so easy... *sigh*
@carlossalazar9728 жыл бұрын
it's no wonder I can't use the three under technique on my bow because my nocks always slip off the string when I attempt it.
@carlossalazar9728 жыл бұрын
it's no wonder I can't use the three under technique on my bow because my nocks always slip off the string when I attempt it.