Im hoping the tuning system will fix the issue.

Just saying I would be fricking pissed if I bought a new bow annd the damn cables whatever were rubbing anywhere. That’s fricking bullshit. I’ve bought and shot probably 12-14 different brand bows over the years and NEVER. had to move limbs or shims. Paper tune the whole nine yards. I don’t get so many people on FB and other places having issues

I would say a lot of my staff are looking at an Omnia. One has an Envision and is now arguing with himself if it is worth changing given the Envision shoots so well.

@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale Cant the Envision also come with the 70# limbs? 🏹🤠👍

Should of waited 3 more days till there new Carbon bow comes out!!

@@KZfaqsucks.. nah! It’s slower and the there first carbon. Better to wait a few seasons on the carbon til they fix any hiccups

@@stevenwalker9013 it doesn’t have any hiccups! It’s perfect!

A Mathews dealer told me this was the bow to look at.

The set technology does not fix the cable rubbing issue

I stopped taking the vitamins. Back on them now. I was impressed. But 100% agree. We get about 2 derails a week. I have a customer with one now saying the metal was faulty. Time will tell. But overall I have had very little problems with Elite bows.

The brass “gear” is really not an issue at all for being soft and causing issues. It’s used as a micro adjust with no pressure on it. So nothing there to worry about.

It amuses me that one company comes out with a little stabilizer then everyone has a little stabilizer. I wonder if everyone will have an inline stabilizer.

Bows aren't as efficient when you reduce the D/W by that much

@@capricornmagic63 OK, I understand. Thanks, Happy New Year!

This bow is a lot like the PSE Evoke. The let off and draw length adjustment and the caged riser. Same damper mount bottom rear. I had an Evolve 31 now an Evoke, pretty much the same. 5 7/8" brace height not a problem. Love it and still nothing to trade for, though the Elite got my attention.

I have the same problem with my Omnia as do a lot of others. The set system does not fix the cable rubbing it if you paper tune correctly you need to shim your cams and switch the limbs for better cam alignment and resolving this issue more money out of my pocket!

Yes he did

I have, and maybe one day it will happen to you. I was on the range, not concentrating, drew back (thinking an arrow was nocked) and bang. Happens to many people.

The Verdict is a Elite bow.

This was only 1 bow. I was not expecting it. No Verdicts in LH yet so I guess the Omnia in LH will be in 2023

He did it!

@@KZfaqsucks.. really?i cant find it

nevermind. found it

She is always around. Checking for people. She is a paid guard dog.

I have never shot 70#, only 60#. They make the bow in 75# but I guess due to the cams not 80#. Aron Synder is using the Verdict for hunting.

@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale Did this one have a very noticeable lean to the right, top and bottom on the cams, in the static position? The one i got for a customer looks f'ed up...!

And yet not one of the owners of the omnia has reported an issue in the month since it's availability. I'd go find a less biased shop. What a load of BS.

I hear what you are saying Marty and they aren't biased I bought the envision from them and they are the top selling shops in America and elite Sent the prototype bow out to them and asked them what would they do to fix it ! And Steven himself felt a problem with the bow and noticed that the cables were rubbing together tell me when has that ever happened in one of his reviews. So there's no reason for them to be biased it's just a problem with the bow it obviously could be tuned out but the problem is still there

@@brianrobinson7972 Just to clarify. Elite sent this shop a prototype and essentially asked them how they'd make it better. The shop compiled a list and sent it to elite. Elite came back and said "there's nothing we can do now as it's too late in the production process" ( or something to that effect ) Why would a company who has paid engineers on staff (several of them) in addition to professional archers (several of which have been involved with the build process of previous bows) give a prototype bow to a shop (regardless of size or notoriety) to ask for input? THEN after going through that process reject the possible fixes saying it was "too late in the production process" You don't send a "prototype" if the final version is already in production. And what, the shop won't sell it because it's "potentially dangerous" ? All these companies have is reputation, once damaged they don't come back, and many have gone under from that exact situation...you think elite would risk that? Not to mention the potential law suite. Anyway I find the story dubious at best and if it really was relayed to you like that, someone is telling you a tale.

@@brianrobinson7972 I have had alot happen in my reivews - Citations the cable guard poped out. Release aids misfire.

I dont know about torque. No one who tired the bow noticed that. I really liked the bow. I am shooting the Verdict now and it is shooting really well. Or should I say it aims well and dead in the hand afterward and I seem to be shooting my bests. There must be a stack of shops with them on order as I paid for a bunch weeks ago. Time will tell, but I think it looks good.

IBO speed is 350gr at 30" draw at 70lbs. Also Elite's IBO speeds are measured at 80% let off. He is shooting 380gr at 28.5" at 90% let off. Theoretically with no extras attached to the bow and strings he should get around 322fps so it's still short of the theoretical speed but on par with the real world speed differences that most brands are showing in his reviews. It also depends on the calibration of the chronograph which explains why multiple reviews for one bow using the same spec draw length, poundage and arrow weight end up with different results. Better to look at comparisons between bows using the same poundage, draw length and arrow weight on the same chronograph. Unfortunately in this case he's shooting at 70lbs with different arrows then he normally uses so we have no data from this test that we can use to compare to his other tests.

It would be interesting trying the bow without the little stabilizer.

Hey don't talk about me like that