Agreed, Lysithea would've liked it too!

And on top of it Hubert cannot be recruited into another house. The audacity!

But Dark Bishop doesn't actually help out dark magic users . . . unless you want 20 Miasma spells. You get it to master the Lifetaker ability, which almost any male can make use of.

@@bardw.1542 It's better than the absolutely useless Black Tomefaire and Black Magic Uses x2 of Warlock

Dark Bishop is Hubert's best Advanced class, yes. Lysithea's best Advanced class is Bishop.

Which, of course, I totally agree with in the context of playing the game skillfully! But there's just something about seeing how far you can push a unit to reach max potential that really draws me towards that side of the game too, which is where I like to study growths.

@@LinkKing7 dude when he said growths no matter is for efficient, optimal play lile ranked runs or LTC, growths are nice but remember you can beat some games without gaining a single level, now the rules are a bit different in 3 houses since you don't really get units that surpasses your avarage level so i would say growths matter more in this game than others but at the end of the day they are not crucial to beat the game

​@@arieloliver3219 even the diffrences in growths provided by classes dont mean anything really. you really only level 40 times if you arent actively trying to max out your characters (at which point you'll stomp over any enemies anyway , so talking about that scenario isnt productive). with only 40 level-ups averages mean nothing ,its too small of a sample group. growths are nice because having high growths on a unit can impact their reliability - but -10% in anything wont really impact that reliability within such a small sample size of level-ups. class bonuses and abilities are much more impactful and should be the bigger factor when choosing a class.

@@trueheropon6518 yeah, that too

i think that bases are still more important than growths, however, in the newer games growths are more important than before due to you no longer get units after the first half of the game. Before awakening you used to get units like pent, hawkeye,etc. Now thats not longer the case. Especially in three houses where you get most of the units that you'll use in chaopter 1 lvl 1.

As I did in my LP, of course!

I'm a Galaxy Brain Noble that gave you the dancer certification and then made you a Wyvern Lord.

@@AkameGaKillfan777 Is Dancer Ferdinand actually a good idea? Tempted to make him one for the meme.

@@-memoria-2136 You can make whoever you want one, as long as your charm stat is high enough. I did it just to make him an avo tank, and it was incredible. He also did pretty well with offensive Gambits too.

Why should we stay as a Paladin when we could be a fantastic great knight?

Whatever you say, Knuckles.

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this is like the dumbest part of hero being gender locked. echidna is also like really good

Or you can get the unarmed combat skill for Caspar, make him a Wyvern Lord, and watch as he jumps from his wyvern to punch his enemies bare-fisted. It was an accident the first time I did it, but it made me laugh so hard I kept it on him since it was such a Caspar type of thing to do.

Dmitri with great punching-out potential would be excellent. Also, I would've liked to have my waifus be able to punch people out, such as the introverted Bernadetta.

@@catchthecat4699 oh shit....I need this when i start ng+

@@catchthecat4699 Was this on auto battle or did you dismount to do this?

Sounds OP, Dimitri has the highest strength cap and growth.

You are a joke

Yes you're a joke

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That too!

Are you sure that everyone's cannon outfit didn't have a dragon under it?

me to

Still forever salty that Ingrid keeps her pretty outfit in cavalier and pegasus knight, but not paladin

ok but holy knight mercedes with a sword awoke things in me i didn't know existed.

You shouldn’t rely on crits that’s why I benched Bernadetta

Ferdinand Von Aegir i was about to argue, then i saw who said it. my apologies, sir aegir

@@noeld9364 Bernadetta is much better as a cavalry class. I think that's where most people mess up. Even if you want her primarily as an archer, Paladin is still better than Sniper.

I benched Bernadetta for Leonie and I didn’t regret it

@@somethingsomething7993 😂 Bernie was so annoying at first I wanted to bench her too but I ended up liking her. Fe3h is my first fe game, I only kept Bernie cause I was playing in classic and right away let Ferd and Thea die 😭. I'm such a noob

Hero I feel is a situationally effective class for raising Sword skills mostly. It's slightly easier to promote to that class than Swordmaster in comparison, so you can use it as an intermediate step towards a lategame Swordmaster. But yeah it's not especially useful otherwise. Running a Swordmaster Raphael here personally. It's pretty hilarious. I also liked the part where Raphael suggested during lecture that the Hero class is really cool.

I agree, the Mercenary/Hero line was on of my favorite to use, probably because of how cheeky the mercenary crit animation was in the GBA games, but also how cool Hero was!

​@Steve Murdock I think a good way to go with Hero would be add +5 Def Growth alongside Weight -5 as a Class Ability just to be thematic toward using heavier weapons. MAYBE replace Vantage with Axefaire, or just remove Vantage, if only to give any incentive at all to train as a Mercenary going into Hero. Less fancy Ability-wise that way, but more practical. On a similar note, remove Weight -5 from Fortress Knight. Although someone like Hilda (or "the second coming of Hector" as I like to call her in that class-line) can technically benefit from it, it's not particularly fitting for the specialization of the class. Suitable replacements might be just adding Pavise as a Class Ability, leaving the Mastery for taking it into other classes with, or something simple like trade Vantage over to it, to emphasize its roll as an Enemy Phase class. Or give it Lancefaire. ...If adding an Ability not currently in the game would be an option, the perfect fit would be one that draws targeting toward the unit, as the reverse of Stealth. Armor Knight could potentially gain this as well, though probably not. (I thought about Wary Fighter, but somehow it doesn't feel like it fits in to Three Houses alongside Quick Riposte. Not to mention the class changing flexibility means it's viably possible to make someone an Armored unit that's reasonably capable of doubling even with the class penalties in place, but you can't just opt out of a Class Ability in this game.) If we DO go the route of putting more Faires on Advanced Classes, could replace Paladin's Terrain Resistance with Swordfaire (assuming one doesn't just add Aegis to it to mirror Fortress Knight if following that scenario). But, on the opposite side of that coin, replace Assassin's Swordfaire with Death Blow to pigeonhole its especially Player Phase focused niche a bit more, making it more even in damage with Bows alongside its Swords, and removing a lot of incentive to go through Brigand. Now, for possible Master Class balances. Mortal Savant is a tricky case. Most would automatically want to jump towards removing the Speed growth penalty, but I'd rather work around it. For Growths, add +10 Res. For class change bonuses, increase HP and Str one point. Now, the main issue, Mortal Savant is the only Master Class that doesn't use all three Class Ability slots. My vote, add in a spell-granting Ability like the earlier magic classes have, but with an intermediate level or class-exclusive spell. For existing spells in the game, Sagittae would be the most obvious, having high uses, easy to execute Might/Hit/Weight ratio, and its status of not falling into one of the elemental groupings of spells. But, more fitting would be something like a reworked Ginnungagap spell, that reduces the unit's own Mag until after they've attacked again. It would be nice and gimmicky so as to promote a playstyle where they're more "intended" to alternate between magical and physical attacks. Could also give them a Mastery class-locked Mag-based Combat Art that that scales Might based on Str (I would say a Str-based Combat Art that scales with Mag, but that's the Sword of the Creator's thing). Really embrace the mixed attacker role. ...Would it be more optimal? Not necessarily. But it would be a whole lot more interesting and fun, which would make it more worthwhile. Now Great Knight, make the Def/Res Growths either +15/0 or +10/+5, and class change bonuses should have one more Str and one or two Res (which would maybe be an only while mounted bonus). It's such a hard class to train for that it should have fewer losses from either route to get into it, and the limit of three Class Ability slots and Canto taking up one of those has me stumped on any changes to make there. Despite the complaints people have about Master Classes being a mixed bag, those are the only ones that really want for tweaking. I guess if you really hate Terrain Resistance and don't want to play fair to Dark Knight, you could give Holy Knight White Magic Uses x2 Some more changes that would probably make a lot of people happy: Make all the move 4 Advanced Classes move 5 instead, which in turn could make Great Knight's unmounted move 5 and Gremory move 6. Add the "can wield some magic” like Noble or Commoner have to Emperor, Great Lord, and Barbarossa so that they aren't a waste to any class progression you may have put your Lord character through, but without being able to lean totally on magic. Claude casting Silence from atop his unique mount just seems so right to me, beyond the obvious of Edelgard's class outright having a Mag growth bonus and her having a very unique spell list. Could also add Dark (or Black to support her crit plus Budding Talent Ability) Tomefaire to Emperor and Swordfaire to Great Lord. Enlightened One could use the addition of +5 Growth in Dex, Spd, Lck, and Res, and improve Cha to +10. Also give it White Tomefaire, or a spell-granting Class Ability of some sort, since it's entirely possible to have no spells by the time you get the class playing blind. Maybe Restore or Rescue, or even Ward to kinda go along with how Byleth blocks spells with the Sword of the Creator in cutscenes? Definitely not Physic, Fortify, or Warp. ...For an exclusive spell idea, Purge (as a single use per map, single target, 3-10 range spell) could be a lot of fun. Or Thani, though maybe only effective against Armor, so as to not overlap with Dark Spikes Τ's Calvary effectiveness. Okay, that's an unreasonable amount of text nobody is going to actually read. About all I could think of. No need to balance the Intermediate Classes and below, I feel.

@@Shalakor We need you on Intsys team

@@Shalakor Good suggestions to make things feel better, Weight -5 would go a long way to helping thematic preserve the Hero I remember, but blades aren't in this game so it's less useful. If I could only take one, please... give me magic for Edel, and yes Silence Barrabossa sounds awesome. Right now I'm making Edel into a Mortal Savant and I wish I didn't have to. As for Master Classes, I am of the opinion they are not meant to be better than advanced classes because there are so few options. I feel like they should just be utility based classes, since advanced has plenty of good specialized classes. AKA don't buff the bad ones, nerf the overpowered ones. I don't know why there's a specialized gauntlets class and a specialized axe class if they both demand to go into the same far superior class.

lmao i was like "wtf is this skill ive never heard of"

i have had it happen alot more than i think. i didnt even realise it activated sometimes as it has no special effect like it did in fates (the persona-esque blood splatter)

@@scottallen2966 I assume it just pops up where a crest activation would, above the stats but again I wouldn't know because it has never happened over two complete playthroughs. Assassin is still a great class tho

it happens more than you think. it pops up where the combat arts are listed if it activates. But other than that, its just really underwhelming. I mis slike the flicker assasins did on the gba version, the red splatter from the ds games etc. It just added nice flair.

I mean, lets be honest, the Mastery doesn't really matter, since chances are the unit is killing with base damage or crits anyway.

or you just give an assassin a rapier to deal with armored units with their high dodge chance

I made her a Dark Knight. No complaints there.

I wish you could have death knight like attacks and use magic while holding a weapon

@@dillydel2252 you mean counter attack?

That's also because Shamir is best waifu

I agree, they're terribly balanced. We'll have to see what the DLC ones bring, but the ones we have are kind of divided right down the middle between good and bad.

Yea I really hate how your physical units will either be using a bow or axe. Honestly if they made GK actually good and an upgrade to both FT and paladin then maybe lances could get play.

in my opinion, there are too few master classes compared to advanced classes. sword users have no choice but to stay in an advanced class, go to mortal savant or forgo their sword specialty altogether. male lance users have to train equally in riding and armor or go magic (no classes require training armor and riding together, meaning you have to think ahead if you want a great knight). male mages have to train in riding or swords if they want to promote. in these cases, you are better off not promoting to a master class at all my suggestion is to have more master classes that can fill the void. here are some ideas: gold knight: lance A. riding A. sword C sentinel: lance A. axe A duelist: sword A. gauntlets A. axe C (so hero can get a direct promotion) master of arms: sword A. lance A. axe A archsage: reason A. faith A (male equivalent of gremory. a pure caster class is too important to gender lock) general: armor A. axe A. lance A any thoughts on these? any other suggestions? as you can see, i prioritized infantry classes, as the only master infantry classes we currently have are mortal savant (known for being underwhelming and has conflicting requirements few can fulfill) and gremory (female only)

I would add a few more. I would favor adding something like an Archbishop or a Saint class for casters who have weaknesses in reason like Manuela. I would also include a pure mage one like say Archmage for pure reason Casters and of course your suggestion for a Gremory equivalent. I would replace mortal savant with Trueblade which was the natural progression for Swordmaster in the older games.

Manuela works decently as a Holy Knight, where the increased movement helps her out tremendously (as she doesn't get any ranged Physic/Fortify). Her high speed means that she can work as a Nosferatu tank, and appreciates the added power that Holy Knight affords. Her sword rank means that she can get Vantage without much effort, which complements this build well.

@@bardw.1542 yeah, you can make Manuela work, but almost everything Manuela does, Marianne does it better, you can give Marianne a Levin Sword, she's a better healer, has Aura, the only thing she doesn't have is Warp. And in this game, Warp is very situational, it's not as good as in other Fire Emblem games

I agree that Marianne is an overall very good mage. But I don't see any reason to have her go Holy Knight, as she has a better offensive black magic spell list. Manuela's better speed and better defense means that she's arguably the best Nosferatu tanks in the game, and Holy Knight is the best class for that. It is very niche, yes, but her strengths do allow her to do some things that other mages would struggle to do.

@@bardw.1542 my bad, I was going to say that Vantage is very situational, not Warp

@@bardw.1542 but I honestly don't like how Manuela works, but at least she can compete with Ingrid on whi is the better Falcon Knight

dark knight is good if you are lorenz and come from paladin (he surprised me at maddening mode)

For the most part, I think the argument for this game is personal growths over class growths. Making Raphael a mage or priest isn't going to make him a good mage. Over a unit's life, we might be looking at like, +/- 5 points, tops, assuming you can't correct your stats with a class' bases, and +/-5 doesn't really matter that much, except maybe in speed. I think picking the most utilitarian classes is the way to go here. You don't make Raphael a priest to patch his Res, you make Raphael a priest, because you really need to have a healer on the front line for some reason.

while you do get a lot of characters early, theres a decent amount of characters that you dont get quite as early, like seteth and jeritza, who could easily replace a unit if you wanted them to. also, i think mekkah’s arguments dont change in 3h much. you can still beat the game on 0% growths. imo, other stuff like combat arts, and magic learned are more important. what a characters boons and banes are are more important or at least could be. what class a character starts out at could be way more important (ex. shamir starting as a sniper) also, it kinda seems like youre proving growths arent that important if they dont make much of a difference when replacing them with a different unit (it carries to 3h still, most of the late game units are better and doesnt have much to do with growths). id also argue in 3h growths matter even less than in other fe games. you can easily get a stat booster every time you visit the monastery (at least when your professor level is a little high, depending on the stat booster) and you can make somebody get abilities to help them, such as weight -3/-5, pavise, quick riposte, speed +2, or rally them

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It makes a small amount of sense when you consider that Armored Knight and Fortress Knight give a bonus to lance skill.

Which is largely what makes the class both feasible and attractive to Ferdinand and Sylvain, even if you have them go through cavalry for the most part, with both having Armour and Riding proficiency and still letting them utilize Swift Strikes and in Sylvain's case the Lance of Ruin to the fullest.

You get even more move as dark knight and keep tomefaire (plus dark knight is the only class that has dark tomefaire), the fact that class exists makes gremory pointless.

@@AsianRailgun If she didn't already have access to Thyrsus I would agree, but honestly I prefer the double magic uses to the extra move, and like I said her magic is already so high that the tomefaire is kinda superfluous. I'd also take the 10 dex growth of gremory over 10 strength for Lysithea every day of the week. Plus, if you really want the tomefaire that badly it's not unreasonable to think she'd hit S+ rank even in a non-NG+ run because of her personal skill, while double uses can't be obtained outside of gremory. The only thing DK really has that sets it apart is Canto, but since you're attacking from 4-5 spaces away already that also feels kind of unnecessary.

Well both Dark Knight and Gremory Lysithea are good. My first playthrough in GD I had her as a Dark Knight because everyone in that route was so mobile (Claude and Hilda on wyverns and Marianne, Lorenz and Leonie on horses) so I needed a mage unit aside from Marianne (Lorenz was a bow knight) that could keep up with most of my units so I had to go with Dark Knight. Also canto can help her retreat when she uses her magic and is in a desfavorable situation (and those situations aren't rare because she is a glass canon). Now if you already got covered a mage and a healer that can be mobile (like Sylvain and Marianne for example) then having a Gremory Lysithea isn't bad at all thanks to the punch she can pack and can fill a support role until the Death Knight or other mounted units appears

i thought faire gives you +5? and two faires give you +10 right?

i just started this game this week, but for Ingrid, I sort of had to care. Her Strength growth was so godawful I needed her as a fighter to get the +2 to strength and I'd like to think that extra boost is why she has the strength she has now to at least tickle the opponents.

I read it ;) I agree with most of what you said tbh

I think me meant that there was no Combat Art mastery in that Swordmaster and Assassin get Astra and Assassinate while Hero gets none.

Glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful!

i know that not every enemy is a flyer, but being able to one round every flier is so nice. i dont think any fliers (with the exception of bosses or if any enemies have that ability that makes effective weapons not effective) can survive one round against hunters volley with a decent weapon

Depends on what people want to see, I'd be more than happy to do either 🙃

Fortress Knight isn't that bad if you're playing hard mode or under but maddening it's adjutant fodder. Its defensive is highly lackluster there.

@@pro2firez Guard Adjutants are the best ones so you might as well make people you bench into Armors for that

With the right lineup and decent RNG (and some ambrosia), fortress knights can still be pretty insane in maddening, especially if you get them into warmaster for quick ripotse (then turning back into fortress knight). I got my rapheal to 54 PRT by grondar field post timeskip (mostly with the help of consumables), and he was basically invurnable to all nameless non-mage enemies. He wasnt useful in all maps, but there is often something he can do (like holding a whole area on his own), and when there isnt (in any map) he is a great adjutant. But of course each ambrosia is 1 less speed carrot for another unit. I still had enough to get both leonie and Claude to double most enemies in final few maps tho.

​@UCkziidygTsZiW8GQAiPD-IA The fact that Fortress Knight needs such an investment (and luck) actually speaks against the class imo (you pretty much said that Fortress Knights in Maddening are suboptimal and inconsistent). Along with that using a single case of personal experience isn't really an argument for (or against) the viability of a certain build. While Fortress Knight does have ludicrous physical tankiness, it suffers greatly from the Siege Magic that you can see running around in late game maps (cough cough BL Finale) as well as a serious case of "Can't enter a mage's range in general even if their life depended on it" and Warmasters can put a strong dent into pretty much anything the decide to punch And the build of Fortress Knight->Warmaster for Quick Riposte->Fortress Knight again seems kind of gimmicky at best, as Wyvern Lord and War Master can serve as decently reliable shields (altough not to the extremes of Fortress Knight) with their high avoid/self healing respectively while also serving another role [War Master is a walking delete button that can also take a hit with healing focus while Wyvern Lord is busy being the best frigging class in the game]

You and me both :P

Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it!

It triggers me that more females get access to dark magic, but the dark magic specialist class is male only

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Because if Lysithia had access to lifetaker and Poison Strike she'd destroy existence itself with all that power.

TheOmegaDragon neither of those would be good for lysithea

Cuz she's clearly evil.

Personally, I prefer dark knight for the extra movement and canto.

yo but like mortal savants got warding blow and a single point of movement more like come on they gotta be the best right

@@noishfanboy1141 yeah, but if you don't look at an all class display, it is extremely out of the way.

Yeah Fierce Iron Fist is pretty nuts! I did bring up Edelgard in that analysis so yeah, Warlock isn't good for her either, she'd want to go Dark Knight as well! Glad you enjoyed the video!

@@LinkKing7 Sorry I should have been more clear: I was commenting on you saying that Edelgard gets no use out of the faire and uses from Warlock, but I agree she would generally fare better as a Dark Knight than as a Warlock

Another thing about Grappler is that it's better for future War Masters in the long run due to the Dex growth especially in maddening since axes miss pretty often there. Though, axe crit +10 is pretty tempting tbh. Also it's actually (Dex + Luck) / 2 for crits, just to make it clear.

Good to know, I'll have to give those all a spin and test it myself! Thanks for the feedback!

HV > PBV

@@brandonjuno I agree. Only thing is it can only be used as a sniper and Leonies 60 speed growth is great for a flying class while still having a double combat art. Idk which is best for her though honestly.

@@jayroach2 I left her as a Sniper. She can ORKO any enemy unit every turn while staying out of range in Enemy Phase. Can't really ask for more than that. I did consider BK but she can't ORKO reliably in that class without PBV, which leaves her open in Enemy Phase.

@@brandonjuno As a flier she can ORKO while also evasion tanking on the enemy phase thanks to 60 speed growth. Maddening enemies have around 110-120 hit with high hit archetypes having 130. Flier Leonie can have an avoid of around 100 at lvl 20. Leaving most end game enemies having 10-20% hit on her even if she stayed lvl 20 all game. That's without terrain.

Hunter's volley is a class mastery skill. You can take that with you into bow knight. Bow knight also keeps bowfaire from sniper, changes +1 to +2 range and gets canto. Specifically for leonie, she also gets point blank volley at A bows, so she doesn't need to go down the sniper route to have a consecutive hit move since you need A bows for both sniper and bow knight. Point blank volley is also better than hunters volley in might, effect, and cost, with the only downside being it's a 1 range move, but in maddening 1 range is useful because extra range drastically decreases hit rate. For any other bow user, it's useful to master sniper and move on, but leonie and cyril can go on without it.

@@shiroshnur No you can't. Combat Arts you get from class mastery can only be used if you stay in that class.

@@AkameGaKillfan777 Ah, ok. I mean, that's not true for all combat art because I know for sure that re-positioning CA's and Triangle Attack stay with you as you class up, but I haven't taken the time to master too many classes that don't have mount's. Still Leonie does better as a Bow Knight since her point-blank volley will act the same as HV.

@@shiroshnur Point Blank Volley while powerful almost defeats the purpose of going into bow knight. Compared to HV you use more mov(effectively the mov you gain from promoting to begin with) giving less opportunity to canto to safety if you need to. Not to mention you're more prone to counter attacks if you miss or just can't kill. Also as far as I'm aware it's only combat arts from advanced classes that end up being class locked like fierce iron fist and astra.

I used Ignatz in my Maddening playthrough and changed him between Sniper and Bow Knight depending on the terrain of the map, and Sniper definitely preformed better between the two. His crit rate when using Hunter's Volley with a Killer Bow really came in clutch at times, and having low movement isn't so bad when your range is so good.

But Wyverns (and Pegasi, for that matter) get Alert Stance, which you can use to just solo an entire group of enemies XD

what about galeforce?

@@Zero-gl2ou galeforce isnt really in this game, besides the combat art that Edelgard gets with her relic.

Thank you friend! Glad you enjoyed it!

I agree. Making Shamir a Bow Knight for one battle was a huge mistake for me. I didn't get as many kills as I did as a Sniper. Her Support with Cyril is no lie. Her Hunter's Volley literally made her MVP in my Final Blue Lions battle.

If you use a Bow Knight with high dexterity and equip all accuracy bonus skills, you‘ll have almost always 100% hit at any range (except for enemy assassins or peg knights of course), so the penalty isn‘t tragic and the added mobility is really good

But no flying unit get bow range +2? If horse movement gets gimped you can dismount, so Bow Knight will have same movement as sniper for a few maps, and much better movement in most maps.

This is only true for maddening. On Normal or Hard the extra range and movement is way better. But the slightly better growths and hunters volley are better for Maddening.

Cyril and Bernie as bow knights worked stupidly well for me in BL (my first run where I made stupid mistakes, for example, Dimitri has really bad res and I did nothing about it). But, Bernie with a magic bow was no mistake, with her high movement she could easily snipe enemies and canto back. Cyril and Bernie needed that range to do x2 and x4 attacks.

was this hard or normal?

This, staying too long in bow knight can cripple your unit's growths. Sniper is excellent

Or just be Wyvern Lord and screw with everyone. Solo with F! Byleth Wyvern Lord with training sword on maddening.

Hunter's volley is a class mastery skill. You can master sniper and take Hunter's volley when you promote into bow knight. Edit: I'm being told HV can't come with you. Doesn't matter for Leonie and Cyril because they have point-blank volley. I can see why Bernadetta and Shamir would want to stay there, but they're the only one I can think of.

@@amanasd26 you're over emphasizing growths. From sniper to bowknight, the difference in growths for strength, dex and speed (probably the most important for archers) are -5%,-20%,and-5% respectively. On average, that's 2 point of difference in dex for every 10 levels, and 1 point of difference in speed and strength for every 20 levels. That's what you would be trading for +1 range in comparison, canto and 3(?) extra move. I don't think the trade in utility is worth the 3 stats you'll gain between lvl 30 and 40.

@@shiroshnur What "maddening mode bonuses" are you talking about? Also, you got the numbers wrong: From Sniper to Bowknight, it is -5% Strength, -20% Dexterity, -5% Speed, -10% Luck. What stat is "skill" supposed to be? Are we talking about the same game? I made the exam for Bow Knight with Bernadetta and it is clearly the more powerful role, but I switch back to Sniper in battles where Bow Knight's boni are not needed.

Yeah I can definitely see that attack speed argument coming in to play here. That is definitely true!

Tbh both of them appreciate other classes more, ashe begs to be a bow wyvern, and bernie makes a good falconknight

@@elgatto3133 I concur. Wyvern Ashe and falcon Bernadetta are my go to for those units now. Flying bow units are excellent. And sniper doesn't help their mediocre strength at all.

Also imma guess now Hero: lmao, go back to GBA Swordmaster: actually solid, easy to obtain, has no real upgrade in master classes but is still viable Assassin: also solid, reason to use over swordmaster but vice versa, basically just another sword option Sniper: inferior to bow knight in.most categories bur still a competent combat class and proficient with the best phys weapon. Hunters volley is also really damn good Warlock: probably fine alone but no real reaso to use it over gremory or dark knight Bishop: the best class for healer, gremory can peovide.a bit more utility but those like mercedes and marianne should stay in bishop Wyvern rider: fine but wyvern lord exists Paladin: really should be a master class tbh, good stats, aegis is great, 8 move, 1 of 3 classes with lance faire. Falcon is fem locked and this games rendition of great knight should be deleted Warrior: honestly similar pros as swordmaster and gives wrath as its mastery, completely viable, wyvern lord exists tho, also warmaster but thats male locked and like, cmon, wyverns. I think i covered everything there Well time to finish it

You pretty much got it!

@@LinkKing7 nice Though I missed brawler and fortress knight Though aid hate to agree with what tiu said on those 2 as well Lowkey ita fun to play this game in advanced classes

It really boils down to what phase you prefer, but War Master IS incredibly powerful

Using a Knowledge gem, you can do it in an auxiliary battle by just unequipping your weapon and tanking for 25 rounds or so. It's pretty easy tbh.

If you don’t use the skill that much, then go for it, if you do, then you might as well leave him there depending on how far into the game you are!

You get them right away

Yeah I leave that out since S+ is pretty hard to get outside of NG+ tbh, and by then it’s a bit late to make too much of a difference as well

don't you get Faire back if you have an S rank in them?

This, however, makes the salacious suggestion that Sylvain should not be your dancer.

Very good point! I've actually done this once or twice so definitely worth looking into early on.

Armor Knight is fantastic for this, by the way. Base 12 defence, and intermediate seals are cheap enough that gambling to get it with low skill ranks isn't even a terrible idea. Thief gives 11 dex and speed, too, also a good one. Monk also gives a base 4 res, I believe. Not much, but you can get it super early, and possibly nab a bonus point or two. Most of the advanced classes have a 17 or two floating around, usually in strength, as well. Meaning if you do end up training a mage for dark/holy knight, be sure to certify for Paladin, too! 17 base str! Heck, might be worth doing even if you don't want to go dk/hk, since mages tend to run out of stuff to learn anyways.

Which might as well be free real estate considering it just needs to be at C

Pretty low proc chance on assassinate is what I was referring to.