Are Aftermarket Parts DANGEROUS?

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@denislaouenan5553 7 ай бұрын

outboard brands don't manufacture outside parts, they just re-label them. Finding the OEM (the real original one, Denso, Marelli, Misubishi, bosh etc) is the ticket. Usually costs around 30% for the original part if purchased directly from the original manufacturer before it gets in the hands of the outboard brand company. As in many industry you will find that the same part is being used by several companies. This way you have OEM but not at OEM price. I have done it for 40 years and never got stranded out in the blue. Look at the part and google whatever marking or label it's got on it to find the original. Compare prices and decide what is best for your application. Of course that does not apply to engine internal parts. if you are in that situation means you are one of the lucky ones who repair themselves so use that advantage, you are free to decide, the opposite is leaving your outboard (or whatever equipment) to your mechanic and give them full power of decision on what what to replace at the highest price on the market plus their handling fee, you're basically hostage. The best is even when they replace all bunch of parts (cause some don't have a clue) and then when the same issue occurs again they find a good reason to justify why it had to be replaced anyway haha so to say well don't expect me to dismantle it now- anyway the old one went in the bin it was in bad condition anyway and was about to leave you at the merci of Towboatus. yamaha or others don't manufacture fuel pumps, they might give specific specs to a manufacturer to start a serie if the part is not yet on the market. Sometimes i tried cheap (too cheap) like that Suzuki idle solenoid at 7$ thank you Jeff haha, that one never worked but it was bench tested before putting the boat in the water so no arm. Suzuki price 350$. Original factory 75$, that one has been working for over 4 years so will probably work as look as the suzuki badged one. Knind of exceptional someone running a marina like you will be open about that subject, thanks

@felixmartel6722 26 күн бұрын

yamaha oil filter is the same on ATV , motorcycle, and outboard ... i use subaru sti oil filter. purolator boss synthetique filter

@JoeDonaggio 7 ай бұрын

All of you guys that think OEMs are making their parts 100% in house are delusional. The aftermarket drives the OEM/OES world and the majority of the guys telling you they are OE are not putting the same thing in the box that came on the boat/car/truck. All technicians marine/automotive or otherwise have careers because OE parts break. The trick is just choosing the reputable aftermarket companies.

@scratchinforstackz2863 5 ай бұрын

I’ve been saying the same thing for years! Fun fact: Honda originally made piston rings (for Toyota amongst other brands) before becoming a car company of their own.

@iFixJunk 4 ай бұрын

Who made it and where is not my concern. Let's say Mercury contracted FRAM to manufacture their filters; that doesn't mean they're being made to the typical, crappy FRAM quality. In theory, Mercury told Fram, "Make it to THESE specs, and put our name on it," and so, that means that when you buy the "OEM" filter, even if you know it's really made by FRAM, you don't know that it's "REALLY A FRAM," but you DO know that--whatever it is--Mercury endorses it. (That's a made-up example. I have no idea who makes filters for Mercury/Quicksilver.) As far as FSMs go (which I bring up because so many of the OEM parts all seem to be made by Carlton), I also assume that each engine manufacturer is contracting the fuel pump manufacturer to make parts to a specific quality and output specification, and I see no benefit to trying to bypass that in an attempt to save money, especially when our host pointed out that replacing just an individual pump for a VST in order to save ~$700 wound up frying a $1,200-ECM. You do the math.

@marshred 7 ай бұрын

On the small mercs and tohatsu 4 strokes....you will burn up the pump driver circuit in the ECM by using the aftermarket pumps.

@Gregg0112 7 ай бұрын

The fuel pump is probably the most common part people cheap out on with an aftermarket parts. There is a reason the oe is 5x the cost of the cheap ones

@astroplutonium 2 ай бұрын

Great solution. Just be conscious when buying non-OEM parts and it will be ok. If it hooks directly on the EMM/ECU then be really critical and prefer the OEM if available. If it doesnt its most likely ok to use non-OEM.

@mehagel65 7 ай бұрын

I loved the ending. That abrupt finish was surprising. BTW Quantum Fuel Systems has great aftermarket pumps. I ended up installing one on my boat.

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

Lol thank you, yeah there wasn't much more anyway, the relay worked :) we've used Quantum's before too, I meant to mention that! They are like that middle ground, not the cheapest, but still under or around $100 and we've never seen an issue with them either!

@tallchicago1 7 ай бұрын

@@BornAgainBoating Thanks for the adding the detail on Quantum. I too had good luck with quantum but had concerns about current draw. Good to hear your good experience w quantum.

@waylonmccrae3546 5 ай бұрын

I use Quantums when I rebuild ATV- UTV Fuel Pumps ...... I have NEVER had one fail in 6 years of using them !! 🤨👍🏻

@danglin69 7 ай бұрын

Iv'e installed about a dozen aftermarket pumps but gave the customer the choice due to cost concerns. Never had one come back. Although bought the $100 ones, was scared of the $36 variety.. Cheers!

@DrEd-th2lu 7 ай бұрын

I go OEM on fuel and electrical items unless it’s just a re-labeled part. I go as far as contacting people who work for the parts company and find out the parts origin. Insurance reasons in the event of fire 🔥 or failure is another reason. Some companies will not cover certain things like auto parts in a marine application if an investigation is required for an explosion event.

@VictorNikulin 7 ай бұрын

I do most of my repairs myself thus treat buying mostly OEM parts as paying for piece of mind that it would keep me going trough that rough inlet and actually making it trough safely ;) Like your forum - got some good troubleshooting advices and knowledge in past couple years, Thank you !!!

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

For sure! Thank you!

@owen8703 7 ай бұрын

Pretty cool to see your UTI meter. I’m in MMI right now

@paulkersey2179 2 ай бұрын

I have a friend who keeps putting automotive starters on his MerCruiser I/O and wonders why they only last 1 year. He swears they are the same as the MerCruiser starters which he states regularly are 4X as much and just ripping off customers.

@christianhaugland2104 7 ай бұрын

Replaced both of my yamahas with a quantum high pressure fuel pump in the VST. Have put several hundred hours on them with no issues. You can buy 7 of them for the price of one yamaha one. A lot of oem parts are just rebranded. Aftermarket injectors are hit or miss but the bosch ones are what you want.

@christianhaugland2104 7 ай бұрын

Anyone know if the cheap Chinese thermostats are any good?

@jamesrahn8339 7 ай бұрын

Wait what? 😂 need an ending here??? !!!

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

There wasn't much after that, the relay fixed the issue :) lol

@beddozo 7 ай бұрын

I quit buying parts from Amazon that indicate OEM because the amount of problems that I’ve had , I found that most of these are manufacturer reject parts that are re-sold at a greatly discounted price and most of the time I have problems with them therefore, I only go to the dealer for manufactured parts , as for aftermarket parts, I would consider buying them only if it’s from a company that has a decent reputation such as I hate to say it Doorman or TYC

@michaeltesoriero7777 5 ай бұрын

Have you had any experience with aftermarket trim and tilt pumps for a F350TXR? Good/Bad?

@AchikSarih 2 ай бұрын

Merci beaucoup ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@joeianniello 7 ай бұрын

Outstanding video. How did you learn of the OEM pumps lower amperage draw requirements? Thanks!!

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

Just researching the problem lol :/

@Logo800 5 ай бұрын

My dad bought an aftermarket Volvo part for his stern drive. Lasted 3 damn weeks yes it was the fuel pump

@richardluce775 7 ай бұрын

One thing (as a past owner and tech at a shop) was if that new OEM part failed it was covered (parts and labor) and if it caused cascading damage that would be covered also. I was in a remote area so that same coverage was good at his home port. That being said I can say I have installed quality aftermarket parts,yeah you can tell. Fit and finish. If you have to modify to install the guy down the road may not be able to diagnose that mod. So yeah do your homework and for heavens sake tell the tech if you’ve done work. Hours of expensive diagnosis can be avoided with a heads up. Pride be damned. I would never chastise a guy for trying to save a buck. But don’t make our job tougher by not being up front about attempted repairs. Thanks in advance.

@blondestrainger 7 ай бұрын

My Yamaha pump failed in my car and replaced with a cheap one and has been great for 8-10 years

@stickyfox 6 ай бұрын

Chromate conversion was a dubious choice for something that goes in a fuel tank. $40 or $700. Stainless probably would have been cheaper.

@vortanspeed6783 7 ай бұрын

I work at a tohatsu dealership an i can say from experience with mfs25/30b and c models its walbro fuel pump only as i haven't got an aftermarket one to last or be reliable as the oem. even with the relay to run the aftermarket pump the pump are unreliable ( runing aftermarket pump without relay will cause the ecu to burn out as its batteryless efi and get ac power from stator and the ecu has an inbuilt rectifier that supplys power to run igniton, injectors, and fuel pump with is controled by a transistor and so the aftermarket pump draws 4amps and the oem 2amp with the extra draw it burns out the transistor and if you look at the stator the charge circuit is around the same size windings as the stator side and the max charge current at idel is 2 amps so there will be a voltage drop and ohms law said the rest )

@user-bp1sw1wh8e 7 ай бұрын

Good !!

@elelectrotech9374 7 ай бұрын

the duralast thermostat for the jeep wrangler is a piece of trash 250 dollars to install and fails in 6 months ,i call it the nttst "never twice the same temp" they sell it for 26 dollars probably buy it for 5 from mexican factory

@srt5321 7 ай бұрын

HAHAH The end!

@gillesgomez3091 7 ай бұрын

Cheap is sometimes... Expensive, eventually!

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

Right :( lol

@jacobuszwanenburg1629 7 ай бұрын

Buy brake parts and get asked Want premium , good , or cheap ? These are Brake parts ! And allowed to be sold.

@jaxturner7288 7 ай бұрын

Well yeah, cheap obviously doesn’t mean unsafe or they won’t work. If you’re in a national chain store I’m sure all of them passed the standards and will stop your car fine so you can probably straighten out your panties. 👊

@Gregg0112 7 ай бұрын

I got a whaler for super cheap. Guy said he put a new pump in the Yamaha outboard. I found a quantum junk pump in the vst. Put a Yamaha pump in it because I need it to be reliable.

@christianhaugland2104 7 ай бұрын

Quantum is a good pump hopefully you at least saved it as a backup

@Richard4616 6 ай бұрын

Lots of parts are made at the same facility. Some are made under different engineering techniques. Some are made in U.S.A. Some are made in Mexico and other country’s. A/C oil filters China? Mexico? Temken bearings USA, China. Ordered 2 of the same bearings, 1 came from China and 1 made in USA. They looked identical. Bring manufacturing back to USA and bring the prices to an affordable price.

@Gggggh580 7 ай бұрын

Buy a Chinese ACU? The problem isn't the $36 bomb! The problem is the ACU. Big manufacturers do this to force us to buy absurdly expensive parts from them! In this case, try using the Mitsubishi Galant 2.0, the pump is the same amperage, same pressure. Just out of curiosity, in Brazil the government determines 27% alcohol in gasoline! Corrosion problems are very common here.

@dannymuller1316 7 ай бұрын

Greetz from the Netherlands!

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

Hey!

@stupendouslife8128 4 ай бұрын

Aftermarket parts works well with my Volvo VNL 670, class 8 👍 but there is no way that I even think to use the shark hunter, poor quality, not reliable at all and cause more damages than benefits 👍👍👍

@dcgo44r 7 ай бұрын

Wow...!! An otherwise great video ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Dinoxt12 7 ай бұрын

Interesting on after-market parts. Get yourself a Reliable DJI Osmo Action Camera, it kicks butt.

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

I love DJI

@walter6873 6 ай бұрын

Buy cheap buy often

@johnlowe8418 7 ай бұрын

Unhappy ending 😂

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

Lol they can't always be happy lol :)

@davidpenlington2753 7 ай бұрын

An IAC valve for 5.7 Volvo $25 online $85 from auto shop, 5.7 is a GM after all, or $384 genuine ?

@dd8426 7 ай бұрын

Would it be safe to use a quality Walbro fuel pump without a relay on a 2014 Optimax 115 hp ? They seem to be a good fuel pump manufacturer. Thanks

@stewatparkpark2933 7 ай бұрын

Walbro are the factory pump on many Mercury engines .

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

What @stewatparkpark2933 said :)

@seanrussell6344 7 ай бұрын

Any parts that you would strictly go with OEM? Or generally look at all options.

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

I tend to be pretty cheap, so I usually always shop around lol but I'm pretty OEM biased on a lot of things too, so if there's not much a price difference, stick with OEM. But if it's not integral, checking out what's out there isn't a bad thing!

@seanrussell6344 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the reply! Working on a small I/O as my first boat and all the tips and tricks help

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

For sure! Congrats on the first project! Wish you all the best :) We cover tons of topics on our podcast: www.youtube.com/@TheBoatersPodcast And if you'd like more interaction, we have tons of courses and guides in our Boater's Program as well as a weekly livestream if you're interested: www.bornagainboating.com/

@Snapytj 7 ай бұрын

Snapon makes a micro torch now!!

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

I saw that, super nice!

@bengarvey1956 7 ай бұрын

Um yeah that was interesting

@waterskipilot145 7 ай бұрын

What are your thoughts on aftermarket injectors?

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

Honestly, never really dealt with aftermarket injectors. Because we will have them cleaned or rebuilt, so I've never really tried any aftermarket injectors! We'll probably talk about this on our Podcast though! Thank you! kzfaq.info/love/6Y2xnr23ERD2n_t51Jv4-Q

@beliedat2457 7 ай бұрын

I work at a marina in New York. We have had this exact issue happen. Burned the ecu right up. They price difference between aftermarket and mercury (what we deal) are insane .

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's crazy!

@austinhall7514 7 ай бұрын

Where do you like to get parts aside from ebay and amazon?

@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын

Depends on where I'm at, local shops, marina's, and stuff like that. Also depends on how bad you need it lol but usually for me the Marina, eBay, Amazon, and Port Supply are my go toos. But I get a discount at two of them so there is that lol

@wuzgoanon9373 7 ай бұрын

The most dangerous thing is ignorance. My motto: KNOW, don't guess.

@caymanbiz4114 7 ай бұрын

Maybe a tohatsu fuel pump instead

@woodycooper7551 7 ай бұрын

I respectfully disagree that cheap aftermarket parts can be used. I am not talking about Sierra etc which are reputable aftermarket, I'm talking Chinese. Thermostats, fuel pumps, sensors. I've seen all of them bad right out of the box. No more.

@reeseman4408 7 ай бұрын

If you think its not chinese because its branded with an american sounding brand name, youre only fooling yourself out of pure ignorance. The brand names that sell for big buck are just buying from the same cheap chinese factories and then marking it up 1000%

@woodycooper7551 7 ай бұрын

@@reeseman4408 I'll give you that OEM parts can be made in China. However the quality is much different. It's tempting to buy a $595 fuel pump for $169, and I did that. The cheap one was NOT the same, and it failed after four hours, just long enough for me to install it and use it once. Same goes for thermostats and sensors which do not open or close on spec., right out of the box. I'm convinced that they manufacture stuff to last just long enough that you can't send it back, or you won't bother to test it when you remove it from the box. I have multiple stories like this. China can manufacture stuff well, if given the right specs and QA, but they are at the same time flooding places like Amazon with garbage. They're even selling boxes that supposedly do something useful but in fact just light up an LED, and selling cheap scent vaporizers masquerading as all sorts of things.

@ryanphillips8492 7 ай бұрын

@@woodycooper7551 you are fooling yourself if you think a 700 dollar fuel pump is anything but 600 dollars of markup

@sparkyobrian6417 7 ай бұрын

while i agree 90% of the time, i do know certain oem manufactures that have early failure pumps and a specific aftermarket brand pump is way better, its rare but factual.