Are Dwarven Forge Tiles Worth It?

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Are Dwarven Forge Tiles Worth It?

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I finally bought into Dwarven Forge tiles. I've been thinking about buying them for a while now but their price was always intimidating. I've experimented with cheap alternatives to these Dungeons and Dragons tiles. However, the tactical map journey just leads me back to getting these for my DnD game.
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@DwarvenForgeOfficial 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reviewing our pieces!

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

Dwarven Forge, love your guys’s stuff. I just had to share! 😁

@bachconneshon7809 3 жыл бұрын

make yo stuff affordable

@DwarvenForgeOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

@@bachconneshon7809 The price reflects the value of our pieces. You can purchase sample packs to see for yourself.

@omnisomnia 3 жыл бұрын

@@DwarvenForgeOfficial I just got my first batch, totally worth it! Would like to see you do a 'grand manor / palace' kickstarter!!!

@henrywalsh 3 жыл бұрын

@@DwarvenForgeOfficial the problem is that, as good as they are, as much quality as you put into it, a starter set *literally* doesn't work for anything beyond a single room. Not all players are like the KZfaq guy here. People who can plunk down $500 to make a functional set. The wonder of D&D (or any TTRPG) is that there is a relatively low cost of entry. You hunt around on Amazon for a deal on a PHB/MM/DMG for around $75 then you get a battle mat and some markers for $30 and you're set for a few years. A lot of us are pretty poor. I've been trying to save money to have a surgery that I need to walk again for 3 years and that's only a few thousand dollars and after 3 years I can't afford it. Now imagine someone like me trying to justify $500 to make 3 rooms and a hallway. You've got to find a way to actually make these things reasonably priced unless you just want to market to the well-to-do crowd like this KZfaqr.

@LightsLuck- 3 жыл бұрын

After years of 3D printing terrain for my game, I've found that impressiveness of variety outweighs the impressiveness of minute details on pieces. The number of quality 3D tiles available now is mind boggling. I have had to resort to keeping spread sheets of terrain. I'm not going to try to claim I know the cost comparison between dwarven forge and the scale of 3D printing that I do. I've spent enough on printers to have entire painted DF kickstarter complete sets. Factor in filament, paint, and man hours... But I have dozens of vastly different buildings, trees, scatter terrain, mountainous cliffs, caverns, dungeons, castle perimeter walls and draw bridge, roads, elven, dwarven, human, and demonic inspired architecture, sailing vessels that range from 2 ft long to row boats, and the capability to do anything I can imagine. Even with all my other pieces I have strongly considered buying select DF sets. Things like the waterfalls and trees are beautiful. I could never justify it to myself, though. As for the durability of prints, I've done similar tests to what I've seen from dwarven forge. From dropping them to throwing them at the ground to standing on them. They are difficult to destroy with tools. Delicate parts will definitely snap as they aren't as flexible as I imagine DF, however. At the end of the day, I think using both options is great if you supplement the shortcomings of one with the other.

@bachconneshon7809 3 жыл бұрын

lmao exactly. invest in a 3d printer will be much cheaper than dwarven forge

@TheHiddenMana 3 жыл бұрын

I have an Elegoo Mars Pro 2 and just finished printing a bunch of minis. I'm debating about tiles / terrain though I've started getting my feet wet a bit. Would you consider sharing that spreadsheet you have? I'm on the hunt for tiles and such as I'm getting started with Lost Mines. Considering going and building all the terrain vs. getting the maps printed, but not sure yet...

@juice3167 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm sure the tiles are great if you have money, but I think a good 3D printer is a better investment. It's much more versatile and will be a LOT cheaper in the long run. Plus, 3D printed parts can be plenty strong. I've printed parts that didn't even have that much infill that could hold over 100 lbs.

@Daysofwandermust 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 3d printer with a dream to print terrain. Another advantage of dwarven forge over 3d printed aside from sturdiness is that you won't go insane trying to get to your printer to work!

@nolansheridan196 3 ай бұрын

I hear ya! I use a mix of both. Most set pieces I 3D print and paint, and I use tiles as the framework of the dungeon. Outdoor stuff and houses I just print as it's way cheaper than paying for DF landscapes. But for dungeon crawls and inside buildings? It's great!

@a.block.of.tofu. 4 жыл бұрын

I have a dungeon starter set and some caverns. I am addicted. I NEED more. But the price often halts me from actually clicking the check out button. Definitely worth it if you can afford them. Also the team is great, I met some of them at Gen Con last year and they were so cool showing us their booth.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

I know, I am very tempted to buy more! I wish I could meet the team one day.

@PouncingPandea Жыл бұрын

Theyre insanly priced D: Like over 100$ for 45 pieces? warlock tiles you get like double that for less money...if only they did magnets

@danielgrimes7822 2 жыл бұрын

I love Dwarvenforge and it’s really cool I’m glad you enjoy them!

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@joshuapicaro8726 3 жыл бұрын

The Dragon’s Rest supports magnetic tiles. It’s also $6 for 10 different sets that mostly contain guides. There is a dungeon, caverns, guild, and more. You can 3D print these on FDM for about $.33 each tile.

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll have to check those out!

@Nosh5 2 жыл бұрын

Saw the price... no. I'm not saying it's not worth it. But your are just essential buying your maps.

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

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@patrickmchugh948 4 жыл бұрын

Very similar to what I have done. Love it. Gets pretty addictive and expensive.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

@deanm375 3 жыл бұрын

Dwarven Forge tiles are great. But you cannot dismiss the cost.

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@ssaberwolf 2 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@rorywitkowski8880 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad that you said they were worth it right at the beginning

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Good to be upfront

@mathewcoppola8622 4 жыл бұрын

I bought Dwarven Forge with my group way back in the early 2000s after playing with it in some games at Gencon. This was the classic resin stuff with the bow tie connectors and no magnets. I believe we bought the Room and Passage set and one of the Wicked Additions sets. The best thing was the whole group pitched in and split the cost of the sets and I recommend that to anyone who has a bunch of folks they play with on a regular basis. Sadly, we stopped using DF many years ago because it got to be too much of a pain for the DMs to set up and lug around to different houses. One of the DMs that had to stop playing has all the stuff at his place. We went back to just using battlemats and markers with tons and tons of minis right up until the health crisis.

@somethingfishyhere6235 4 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, Dwarvenforge has the most detailed, modular, and durable (dwarvenite) dungeon terrain money can buy. However, as the video states, they ARE expensive + if you have a lot of it then it can take up a lot of space, and set-up and take-down times can vary. I recommend looking into their kickstarters if you want to get them a little cheaper (I can't wait for Wildlands!). That being said, I personally agree with the video. They are highly worth it if you are looking into a long-term hobby of D&D. Bottom line: detailed/modular/durable vs $$/space/time. Is it a good investment for you? Only you can decide that.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

well said

@DwarvenForgeOfficial 4 жыл бұрын

You're totally right! We're not for everyone. Kickstarter is the best time to get involved! It helps us make all the pieces we want, you're guaranteed to get what you want (we don't stock all kickstarter items post-KS), and it's going to be a little less expensive than web store prices :)

@dawnjackson5773 3 жыл бұрын

so depending which printer and how your friend has his settings in the slicer and if how he has his printer is what cause his tiles to look they way they came out.. and you can get tiles that look just as good as dwarven forge tiles and not all Dwarven tiles have magnets on them..

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

They weren’t extraordinary but they were pretty good

@timothyferguson8333 3 жыл бұрын

This video is amazing and exactly how I feel about DF!!

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@mingramh 4 жыл бұрын

Good summary of options, I completely agree.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

thanks!

@thomasgrable1746 4 жыл бұрын

I've been collecting and using Dwarven Forge stuff since it came out. I've spent around $11K, and don't regret a penny of it. It's the best dungeon terrain on the planet. I am sorely tempted now by their Kickstarter for outdoor terrain, which looks amazing.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

It does! Same here, I got into Warhammer recently and my DF tiles carry over well into that game as terrain as well. I love my tiles.

@Boodoosh69 4 жыл бұрын

Use ours for 40K - I get pre painted so can spend my time painting minis instead of terrain

@BarrengerFynar Жыл бұрын

A lot of folks get the D&D board games for the 40+ miniatures, but the puzzle piece style scenery tiles are great too. They are nicely illustrated and being able to snap them together is a great bonus.

@ssaberwolf 2 ай бұрын

Maybe if they're ever priced in a way that makes them remotely accessible to those of us who are struggling with the ever-rising cost of living

@BuggSmasher 8 ай бұрын

Currently in process of etching out (just with a pen), cutting and painting some 5mm foam. It's easier then insulation foam. If you just buy the black sheets, you may even not want to paint !! The only problem I've encountered is what to back them onto, but that'll be either 3mm MDF which needs to be cut with a saw when I set up, or even cereal cardboard could be used double, triple layered !! Until one wins cross looootto or inherits a house. Can't justify the dollars no matter how good it looks !! I'd rather spend that money on a 32", or larger screen and play on a digital mat which can be customized and altered to any dungeon or landscape to suite the game, just the week or night before !!

@granpappy77 2 жыл бұрын

My wife calls DF "dollhouses for dragons". For the record, Dwarvenite is a custom PVC blend. Their initial KS showed them running them over with a pickup truck. I don't recommend it, but it remained undamaged.

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Dollhouse for dragons. I love that

@johnmedeiros3445 3 жыл бұрын

10:35 you show dwarven forge pieces on board thats maybe 10''x10'', what is that tile the dwarven forge tiles are on?? is it a steal plate with the image painted on???

@completeweddingevents1990 Жыл бұрын

Dude, edit the burps

@TonySticks Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! Will do

@aneeshmenon5885 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man I've recently got into D&D and started painting miniatures as well. And I find playing with minis and battle mats is great - cuz as you said playing only theatre of the mind especially during encounters is hard. Im eventually looking to invest in some dwarven forge soon myself. I needed some guidance in regards to playing with miniatures specifically. So I've managed to 3D print a few minis for PCs and painted them as well and they've turned out great. But I wanted to know when it comes to encounters do people use minis for monsters / enemies as well or do you'll use tokens or 2D minis? Because I found investing the money and time to make the minis for PCs was definitely worth it but to do the same for monsters that you might just probably end up using in a few encounters here and there wasn't worth the investment. So yea just wanted to know how others go about it.

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

What I did was go on miniture market (the website) and ordered a bunch of the cheapest dnd minis. Like under a dollar each. And when I run an encounter I’m fairly lenient on the model. Like “hey players, I know this is a a giant turtle you are fighting, but I don’t have that, so this horse will represent the turtle” That was my start and I still do that to this day when I don’t have a very specific model

@BuggSmasher 8 ай бұрын

I just print 2d minis anyway while saving and exploring new scenarios, slowly building 3d collection. Not everything is always in stock when I purchase any ways, so I print off to play.

@parttimehero8640 2 жыл бұрын

I thing Dungeons & Lasers is a new contender for best Tiles. Yes you have to paint them but they are inexpensive and you can get many different set already

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

I think I just saw a kickstarter for them. Definitely a good alternative!

@alwayseatinpotatos 3 жыл бұрын

Also using this plexy over the vinel grids will still allow u to use alot of props dungeon props but will save u money to start because what u dont own for dwarven forge ,worlock tiles and walls u can draw real quick with a washable marker just keep a roll of towels

@alwayseatinpotatos 3 жыл бұрын

Paper towels and a little water from a water bottle near by and u can clean the surface off in a second if needed. This plexy over vinel Matt is awsome then when u get more cash u can by more dungeon props or forest / trees ect but no rush it will help ur game be awesome but grow at the pace u can afford.

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll still use those from time to time

@yotodine 3 жыл бұрын

@Tony Sticks - your friend should have purchased a resin printer and not an fdm printer. The detail is mind boggling!

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but resin is a pain to work with and fragile.

@yotodine 2 жыл бұрын

@@TonySticks It is a pain. But the brittleness only occurs with overexposure and no protective coating. Or you can buy abresin the has some give. Ive heard the water soluble ones are good in those regards. Better yet, make someboutnof hard rubber resin!

@camerongrondzki2716 2 жыл бұрын

gonna be honest, the dwarven forge tiles are AMAZINGLY well detailed, but seriously, for how expensive they are you can get a decent 3-d printer and make stuff that's almost as detailed but you can hand paint them for a truly more customized look

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

You absolutely could!

@ElliLovett 3 жыл бұрын

uh they're very pretty but i already have resin printer at home so why not use it i guess and covid gave me a lot of time to paint everything before actually meeting my friends in real life again.

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Do it!

@christopherwalsh7700 2 жыл бұрын

You’re using a resin printer for dungeon tiles?

@Hepabytes 4 жыл бұрын

I think I've done theatre of the mind combat once. Never. Again. Ever.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

why!?

@Hepabytes 4 жыл бұрын

@@TonySticks i don't like not having a clear picture of where everyone is unless it's dead simple.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

Yup, it can be very unorganized.

@Eloweh 2 жыл бұрын

Well you sold me in 15 minutes

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, enjoy!

@coachron5033 3 жыл бұрын

So unless you have a large metallic sheet, these pieces won't stay together?? You got played!!

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

They will! They don’t slide easily and I use a small magnetic whiteboard sometimes. The sheets are optional.

@davidmorgan6951 3 жыл бұрын

So how much Dwarven forge do you have now and how do you store them? I tend to use a mix of Dwarven forge and Warlock tiles for dungeons

@leperchanchris1 3 жыл бұрын

Are the warlock tiles close to same size as df tiles?

@davidmorgan6951 3 жыл бұрын

@@leperchanchris1 yes except the walls

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

I store them in plastic drawers you can get at Walmart. And separate each drawer by category. Walls, corners, floor, specials, city, etc.

@lifedragon99 3 жыл бұрын

It's LEGO and LEGO is for adults too. Great video though. Can't wait to get some after covid pandemic ends for in person games.

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

It pretty much is! 🤣

@jaymelee 2 жыл бұрын

Play Wonder Wall! (sees acoustic in the background)

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, of course! 😊

@alwayseatinpotatos 3 жыл бұрын

Dry erase / vinel battle maps are great butt!!! After 2-3 years they retain washable marker so ,"" solution "" if u get a peice of plexy glass at ur local hardware store or home depot or lowels ect...cut it to the size of ur table put the mat under this it never retains washable marker .. to cut it u use a skill saw a finish blade with lots of close carbide teeth wider about 1/8 inch wide carbide teeth for cutting wood . Wrap the spot u wanna cut with duck tape all the way around both sides of the plexy this prevents splintering or cracking, draw ur line that u wanna cut off at with a sharpie on the duck tape with a straight edge / ruler or a t squaure. After cutting the sheet remove excess duck tape off the plexy take some fine sand paper or a fine file and sand any light bur off the cut edge

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

That’s smart!

@janetcameron4652 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@GeckoGamer-sk8rv 4 жыл бұрын

I live in the east of England and have ordered from the European site does anybody know how long it will take to get to me?

@DwarvenForgeOfficial 4 жыл бұрын

We don't have a UK site but we support the people who run the UK site selling our products. We are working on better alternatives for shipping to people in the UK & Europe

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for answering that Dwarven Forge!

@TFconfused 3 жыл бұрын

I personally don't find they're literal "dungeon" tiles to be worth it. Far too many cheaper options that look great and if your a crafty DM can look better. HOWEVER, they're outdoor, cavernous and village sets are unmatched, absolutely awesome sets, just pricy. Obviously anyone whos super crafty and likes building sets can make stuff that looks incredible and better than DF, but man some of there forest and mountain terrain is just amazing

@thatdogdudedenton5302 2 жыл бұрын

Not only did you choose to not edit it out....you focused on it, and for that im out. Just gross man, unneeded. Didnt help the comedy at all. Just made me a little sick. 00:47

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your feedback. A lot of people have been grossed out by it and I’ll edit better in the future.

@ElderBard00 3 жыл бұрын

This video made me subs to ur channel 👍🏼 informative for me. Thank u.

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@deanm375 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe when you stop belching throughout your video viewers will take you seriously.I was out after the second belch. Dwarven forge is great for people who have the extra 4 grand to purchase their full kickstarters but most adults in the real world cannot justify that sort of expense no matter how great they are. I REALLY like dwarven forge tiles but it's way too expensive. For half the price I can buy a top of the line 3d printer and make my own tiles in the exact quantity that I need for pennies a tile. Even at half the price Dwarven forge are too expensive.

@xJohnnyBloodx 3 жыл бұрын

i think getting it pre-painted is one of the main sellers. people spend time making money, and don't have time to paint, so might as well just buy the painted set. I did the math, and a single painted tile is like 4-5 bucks. So if you make around 9 bucks an hour, you probably consider your time more valuable than the time it takes to paint a tile.

@Faradars1 4 жыл бұрын

what about dwarven vs warlock tiles?

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

If I get my hands on some warlock tiles I'll let you know.

@witcherjohn3440 3 жыл бұрын

Warlock defiantly due to the price

@tonyhsloanejr 4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes they are.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I got them sooner! 😁

@tonyhsloanejr 4 жыл бұрын

@@TonySticks me too. But at least there are plenty of pages out there where you can look at people's amazing builds

@tonyhsloanejr 4 жыл бұрын

@@TonySticks I just found a page on FB where they do crazy builds

@benterry2681 2 жыл бұрын

You realise 3d printed tiles are tough a hell

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

They are! My friend has some

@mestoph0757 3 жыл бұрын

If you backed the wildlands kickstarter Your gaming terrain will go up to the next level and your wallet will plunge to the next level down. LOL. But it does look amazing

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Haha 😂

@RyanPaton 3 жыл бұрын

I was kind of enjoying your video but it was just grossing me out how you kept burping. Couldn't you edit that out?

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve gotten that feedback a lot and will remove the burbs in future videos

@foxleaf9867 4 жыл бұрын

you just gotta paint your tiles dude! XD

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

I got too many minis to paint first :D

@foxleaf9867 4 жыл бұрын

@@TonySticks I know that problem! thanks for the vid! Very helpful. :)

@kaifritzsche8377 2 жыл бұрын

While I did enjoy the contents of your video, I found your burping quiet disturbing and kind of rude. If you leave those out I subscribe in the future!

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@oscarium6934 2 жыл бұрын

it doesn't take that long, your just kinda slow

@TonySticks 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, im working on it

@oscarium6934 2 жыл бұрын

@@TonySticks yes yours looks cool, but this was made in 30 minutes, cost under 20 for the whole castle ravenloft ground level

@Argnad 4 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, no. They are too expensive which makes the buyer want to use them for every map, then all the maps look the same. I use paper maps. I find a good image in the internet, print it with a grid, then laminate. Our imagination does the rest.

@VegasDM 4 жыл бұрын

I'm not following the logic of "all the maps look the same" and "i use paper maps". I would think all your maps look the same since they are paper while mine are 3-D since they are dwarven forge. Also doesn't printing and laminating cost money? that would get expensive over time. Either way I don't use my dwarven forge because they are expensive, I use them because they are 1.a joy to build with (this is an understatement) 2. fun to play D&D on and 3. look absolutely amazing on the table. I can relate to the video because I went down the rabbit hole of making tiles, buying the 2d tiles and the dry erase mess. My regret on this matter is that I did not get dwarven forge sooner

@Argnad 4 жыл бұрын

Regarding all the same: The tavern looks like gray stone with some building elements. The castle looks like gray stone with some castle elements. The forest looks like gray stone with some trees. The underdark looks like gray stones with some cave elements. Regarding paper and laminate expense: Our printer (not bought for role playing purposes) uses ink reservoirs, not cartridges, which makes color prints cheap. We also already had a laminater, and the sheets are not that expensive. Also, lamination is not necessary, its just what I do.

@TonySticks 4 жыл бұрын

Any method is great as long as you are enjoying it. I prefer my DF tiles above all else, but I still use an occasional dry erase board and marker for lazy dungeon crawls. But the thing I love about the DF tiles is their flexibility. Dungeon cave crawl? Castle room? Tavern? Or just take the floor tiles and make a stone pathway on a green mat to represent grass. As long as you get creative, there are plenty of possibilities.

@tonyhsloanejr 4 жыл бұрын

All maps don't look the same the pieces are modular. DF is amazing.

@tonyhsloanejr 4 жыл бұрын

@@Argnad Dude you really haven't seen what people can do with DF