Are Engineer’s NEW PZ-81 slip joint pliers superior to their Knipex Cobra or Vamplier counterparts?

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Are Engineer’s NEW PZ-81 slip joint pliers superior to their Knipex Cobra or Vamplier counterparts?

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Engineer has released their new PZ-81 250mm slip joint pliers with an added trick up their sleeve. Will this tool be able to bring something new to the table and be able to take on the likes of Knipex and Vampliers. Join as as we put them to the test!
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Product info:
Engineer PZ-81 Slip Joint Pliers (250mm)
Convenient for maintenance of deep vinyl lined steel pipes
Vertical groove hardness: HRC60±2
Equipped with a quick adjustment function. You can easily adjust the opening width by push button
Holds a variety of objects such as round rods, square bars, slats and more
Includes screw removal function that allows you to grip and turn broken or rusted screws with a vertical groove at the tip
Unique tip shape allows for low head screws (truss screws). The tip allows for vertical grip to work in narrow spaces
Compatible screw size: φ3-9.5mm
Can hold sizes: round rod: 0.2 - 2.4 inches (6 - 60 mm), square bar: 0.2 - 2.2 inches (5 - 56 mm), hex bar: 0.2 - 2.2 inches
Size: 10.2 x 2.2 x 0.7 inches (260 x 5
Weight: 11.8 oz (320
Manufacturers website:
www.engineertools-jp.com/pz81
Can be purchased here:
Engineer Neji-Saurus WP-2 Pomplazaurus Water Pump Pliers, Stripped Screws, Broken Screws, Rusted Screws, For Φ0.1 - 0.4 inches (3 - 9.5 mm), PZ-81 10.2 inches (260 mm) [Screw Removal Function] a.co/d/c4XZqqo

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@DeanAWhite-gr8eo Жыл бұрын

No matter what is claimed on a package, no matter what the specifications are, the proof of usefulness and durability is in the using. I have a pair of Knipex "Alligator" multi slip-joint pliers from the 1970s, before the "Cobra" appeared. I've used and abused them on a job as a plumber, as a maintenance man, and since then on home repairs, auto repairs, and working on ragged older motorcycles. They work, they don't break, and they were worth every penny that my poor man's "shallow" pockets dug deep and paid for them. I've never regretted this purchase. That being said, the Engineers' pliers may be equally as good, or possibly even better. However, I doubt that I will ever find out, as I don't ever expect to replace my reliable Knipex pliers. My son is in his 40s now, and I expect that this pair of pliers that's older than he is, will survive him too. Perhaps his son will need to replace them. Thanks for a great video. Best regards, Dean

@ManlyManStuff Жыл бұрын

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@thingsmen 10 ай бұрын

Appreciate your comments!

@scrambler350 Жыл бұрын

10:05 -- you want that "deflection" when you squeeze down on the handles to grip something because it acts like a spring to hold tension on what you're attempting to grip and rotate.

@thingsmen 10 ай бұрын

I agree to an extent, but overly flexing can be dangerous. These are a bit more "flexy" than i am comfortable with.

@XX-sz6qh Жыл бұрын

Japanese tools have been the most impressive tools I've had the honor of using, but I still love my knipex sets

@thingsmen Жыл бұрын

Currently Knipex is tough to beat. Time will tell.

@darkinertia2 Жыл бұрын

man this is getting close to what i really want which would be a 150mm sized one and perhaps a simple wire cutter...my cobras are my most used tool at work

@thingsmen 6 ай бұрын

Yea, you should check these out. These adjustables don't usually have cutters.

@WhiteVaille Жыл бұрын

Looks like an exciting product release, but agree that it could use a bit more refinement. I think I also agree that the Knipex has better slightly better ergonomics, but I'd also really love to see the Engineer use their Nejisaurus molded comfort grips, rather than that simple dipped handle. I personally really like Knipex's ergo handles, though I admittedly haven't had the opportunity to compare it to their dipped grips. But, I don't mind the extra bulk for sake of added comfort. While I suppose it's not strictly a make-or-break feature to be able to only need to apply pressure to a single handle, I feel like the Knipex's ability to do so means the tool is doing more work for you, which means less stress and effort on your part. Interesting that the PZ-81's failed at that task despite their hardness and apparently similar design, but I guess the devil is really in those minute details of tooth angle and jaw geometry. Regardless, I think the screw extractor feature is otherwise super handy, so that plus it being half the price will keep me considering adding it to my collection. I just wonder how long before they iterate on the design - if ever.

@thingsmen Жыл бұрын

The PZ-81’s swing pretty high but yes more refinement is still needed. They don’t quite have the same stability as their Knipex counterparts. However their screw extraction definitively puts them in their own field. I don’t think there will be any major changes anytime soon. I’ve come across some information that I might have to do another video in the near future. Stay tuned.

@apistosig4173 Жыл бұрын

Both companies manufacture excellent tools - I'd take the Knipex Cobra over the PZ-81. I have the Engineer PZ-58 screw removal pliers which are an excellent tool. The Knipex Twin-Grip 82 01 200 is a similar tool on steriods. The Knipex pliers-wrench is an insanely remarkable designed tool.

@thingsmen Жыл бұрын

They both do a great job. Knipex has set the standard for pipe wrenches so that will be difficult for others to match. The PZ-81 is still a great tool it just needs some refinement in a couple areas.

@karllager2214 Жыл бұрын

Never heard of the brand before. They look well made. I'll check them out, been looking for a set of end nippers. Cheers.

@thingsmen Жыл бұрын

They are nice but have their challenges. I think they are unique enough to keep though. Thanks for commenting!

@m1pete Жыл бұрын

There is another addition to the range: Engineer Pz-63

@thingsmen 10 ай бұрын

Ill Look into that. Thanks for sharing.

@thatguy6054 Жыл бұрын

I would have killed for a set of those Engineer pliers when my washing machine sprung a leak a while back. Beside gripping screws, the jaw design lets you grab on to other oddly shaped things that normal flat jaws don't, like spring hose clamps. I had to replace a hose that was way up in a weird corner of the machine. Normal pliers kept slipping off the clamp and there was no room for hose clamp pliers. Those angled Engineer pliers with their screw gripping jaw design would have been the ticket.

@thingsmen Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input. Looks like you might need to pick up a set.

@thatguy6054 Жыл бұрын

@@thingsmen Oh, I will. for sure.

@scrambler350 Жыл бұрын

I like having that screw remover end on some box-joint pliers like this - hopefully they'll make a 150mm (pocket sized) version....or maybe KNIPEX will produce something similar. It would be nice to have that feature on a small pair of Cobras.

@thingsmen 6 ай бұрын

They have been very nice so far. Like you i hope they come out with a couple size options to help cater to needs. Thanks for commenting!

@lesslighter Жыл бұрын

I like how it has their nejisaurus stripping grip but.... yeah make is smaller 120-150 it should be a capable tool if you need a "pistol grip" pliers from engineer

@thingsmen 10 ай бұрын

Agreed. They need a couple smaller sizes available.

@paedahe4975 Жыл бұрын

I want this pair because it’s different and I never know when I will need it.

@paedahe4975 Жыл бұрын

Liked and subbed. 👍

@thingsmen Жыл бұрын

That’s a good motto.

@johnjingleheimersmith9259 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't see the value of these over the cobras. If I were to want to do screw extracting maybe I would consider the regular linemans version of the engineers PZ59s, or probably even better their vise grips version PZ65/66s so you can lock onto the screw head. Even twin grips seem like a good option. These just seem like channellocks with a locking feature for sizing. A big meh from me.

@thingsmen Жыл бұрын

Fair points. They do a couple things well for being slip joint pliers but I find them lacking in other areas as well. Thanks for commenting.

@ktm250xcw 5 ай бұрын

Kahhh-nipex

@thingsmen 5 ай бұрын

😉. I’ve changed my pronunciation on my newer vids. Check them out.

@rjskum688 Жыл бұрын

May be better in a smaller size.

@thingsmen 10 ай бұрын

Agreed. Hope they come out with a smaller set.

@rjskum688 Жыл бұрын

And too bad in a real-world application, you most likely won't be able to spin the object you are extracting the screw from.

@thingsmen 10 ай бұрын

Lol, got me. Was trying to speed up the process. :)

@Savagetechie Жыл бұрын

Admittedly I haven't watched the video yet but the title is weird Vampires are made by engineer... All vampliers are just engineer rebrands.

@thingsmen Жыл бұрын

Correct. We address this in the video along with some other important details.

@coryulrich6489 Жыл бұрын

They are not the same company. Vampires is a rebrand with a longer warranty

@thingsmen 10 ай бұрын

Fortunately they are the same company, just different name.

@Juandelacruz-lx8qc Жыл бұрын

Ill go for japanese brand of tools than german made that are overly-rated…and i really dont understand why some people used that kind of pipe pliers instead of traditional pipe wrench which you have much better grip and bite on a tubular steel…thats laziness…

@thingsmen 6 ай бұрын

Yes, nothing wrong with Japanese tools or German. They both do a great job in their own respects. Thanks for commenting!

@vicpetrishak7705 Жыл бұрын

Knipex is a proven brand , would not even consider Engineer’s brand made in Taiwan . I still purchase Channel Lock brand out of American Made brand Loyalty ! Still own Knipex brand tools . 63/23

@Juandelacruz-lx8qc Жыл бұрын

Fyi, not all engineer’s brand are made in taiwan and its so funny that youre “LOYAL” to american made product but you were Praising and owning german brand tools. You should praise made in usa instead! 😂

@vicpetrishak7705 Жыл бұрын

@@Juandelacruz-lx8qc I stated the facts and the truth . 90% of my tools are American Made . Pickup trucks are Chevrolet or Ford with Goodyear tires not Cooper Tires . 68/23

@Juandelacruz-lx8qc Жыл бұрын

@@vicpetrishak7705 but i bet you owned iphone that are “made in china”…lol

@vicpetrishak7705 Жыл бұрын

@@Juandelacruz-lx8qc Where else are phones made ? Please enlighten me . 72/23

@Juandelacruz-lx8qc Жыл бұрын

@@vicpetrishak7705 do your research…”would not even consider made in taiwan”…blah blah…still purchase american brand MADE IN CHINA…Lol!

@vicentvanmole Жыл бұрын

no . pay al little more for Kp

@thingsmen 6 ай бұрын

Not sure i know what you are saying, but these are excellent extractor wrenches.

@guyconnell2250 Жыл бұрын

I strongly suggest buying the Engineer brand and NOT Vamplier. Vamplier will not honor their claimed warranty unless you just happen to have saved your 4 year old receipt. And Engineer is less expensive and makes Vamplier. So don't buy Vamplier.

@thingsmen Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Vamplier wouldn’t honor your warranty? What happened to yours?