ARE ENVE COMPOSITES AND CHRIS KING WORTH THE MONEY???

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ARE ENVE COMPOSITES AND CHRIS KING WORTH THE MONEY???

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After a bit of a rock strike incident and having continued to run said Enve rims for a couple of months afterwards, Jim heads down to Saddleback UK to get the front rim replaced on warranty and Chris King hubs serviced. We delve deep into whether these premium brands are worth their money, take a close look at the King internals and discuss exactly what bang you get for your buck!
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@davidward3887 4 жыл бұрын

There’s something very therapeutic about watching bike stuff being made/ built!! 👍 or is that just me being weird?

@Magoo71 8 ай бұрын

Was out of Mt Biking for 20 years....just got my first eBike! Before I even had the bike I bought ENVE M7 wheels with Chris King Hubs. I started riding CK hubs in early 90's....they are simply the best! I only have a couple thousand miles on them but they are flawless!!!

@PinnedTV 8 ай бұрын

Totally agree, unless it freezes!!

@Magoo71 8 ай бұрын

@@PinnedTV I don't ride below 50....the wind chill at 30+ MPH is too damn cold....

@newt117 11 ай бұрын

I’ve got a set of Chris King hubs and head set in my 13 year old Santa Cruz Blur. They are phenomenal!

@PinnedTV 11 ай бұрын

Yeh they’re fantastic

@fernfloyd 4 жыл бұрын

I have two pairs of Enve road wheels both with King hubs, and purchasing a gravel set soon. Excellent rims and hubs covered for life! :)

@fitchplym 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting video, good content. nice to see the passion from enve and the knowledge of the staff building the wheels.

@piersbickerton-jones6231 4 жыл бұрын

Ooohh I do love a Chris king rear hub service 😍 For what it’s worth ive had a few sets of there hubs/bottom brackets/headsets Worth every penny in my opinion but the comments concerning standards are fair enough, hopefully we are near the optimum now....

@tonyguest8154 4 жыл бұрын

Extremely satisfying to watch those king hubs being pampered, I have the full King set up in matte slate on my Bronson AXS reserve - steel bearings in the bb hubs and headset, I’ve just ordered another complete king setup for my 5010 but this time with the ceramic bearing upgrade 👍🏻

@PinnedTV 4 жыл бұрын

👌👌

@jjbonn9709 4 жыл бұрын

Rob is brilliant, and the only person I know who can play saxophone and track stand simultaneously

@richthegasman 4 жыл бұрын

Great video and a great insight, really appreciate videos like this. The money we put into the cycle industry, be nice if more companies looked after us better.

@honzomonkeybusiness515 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid. "Your dog ate it? We are gonna take care of it", cool guy 😃. Love companies that really care about their customers 👍

@bicketybam 4 жыл бұрын

I have to admit I've always been hesitant to invest so much in a wheel. There have been so many permutations of different wheel size on my frames since I started riding I can say for sure no wheelset would have lasted anywhere close to a "lifetime". When I have had wheels built to my own spec I have always gone Hope for the hubs and whatever rim was the right size for my ideal tyre widths. If you ride enough gnarly stuff to destroy wheels on a regular basis or you are a big lad then I think you can justify the incredible quality and service from products like this. However, I'm pretty average weight, most of my local trails are more loam than rock and since the 90s I've only ever mullered one rim and one rear hub (and that was ragging a rigid down something it wasn't designed to be ragged down). If I rode every week on rocky shaley surfaces then I'm sure it would be a different story.

@yetifanuk 4 жыл бұрын

Well said, the industry has been too volatile over the past few years for this wheel for life approach. These changes in wheel size and hub size is a joke. It all been about sales, its sad, its an industry that people love and have in their hearts you will ruin that with this aggressive sales shit.

@teamdfc1 4 жыл бұрын

Brill video Jim, loved the insight, looks like a great company to deal with. Nice engineering in those hubs 👍

@knott4me561 4 жыл бұрын

I have a std 1/1\8 Chris king headset that's been on 3 bikes since 2001 and hand on heart the bearings have never needed any attention and the bike it's on no longer gets used and hasn't for two years but it's testimony to the quality.it was £120 at the time but money well spent .

@jedmtb 4 жыл бұрын

Saddleback are awesome they helped me a lot with my Push shock, I personally find carbon rims too harsh unless you run 28 spokes like Santa Cruz/Race Face which always caused me to snap more spokes, they are fast tho

@davekelly8168 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fantastic video, love the in depth geeky stuff like this..

@vilasanthwal5606 4 жыл бұрын

Great looking kit and great vid as ever. I'd be interested to know what the industry definition of lifetime is in this regard? Could we rock up in 9 or 15 years time with a smashed rim and get a no quibble replacement or will we get turned away a day past 5 years if that's the expected lifetime of the product?

@5492sparky 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting watch Jim. Certainly gives plenty to think about when it comes to buying new wheels. 👍

@wozzupp8647 4 жыл бұрын

Got a pair of M70's on my Intense T275. Had a rock put a hole in the front wheel side wall and thought I wasn't covered. But this video has put my mind at ease and saved me (hopefully - if I understand the warranty correctly) £1200 for a new rim. Great video. Thankyou.

@tomclarkson6078 4 жыл бұрын

Good video on why components cost so much and what your buying into. I fabricate and CNC architectural aluminium systems so I can relate in a way as to why some may get a shock at the price manufactures are asking but you do get what you pay for! There’s no such thing as cheap and cheerful, buy once cry once.

@stephenbrown5844 2 жыл бұрын

What a fantastically educated bunch of guys,, brilliant to trust people to do a proper job nowa days❤️😉👌

@PinnedTV 2 жыл бұрын

Totally

@TimFromWales 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Jim - very GMBN tech - but more real.

@gavindean 4 жыл бұрын

I've had my M9's now for 3 years and they are still as good as new if you have the coin they are definitely worth it.

@alessandrocolombo6060 2 жыл бұрын

Hi there guys! As far as i understood and if you have the money to buy such a wheel set i think they are worthy! I am amazed!

@PinnedTV 2 жыл бұрын

Too right

@albertmanzo9510 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic shop and expert tech there in england! wish we had such shops here....

@PinnedTV 3 жыл бұрын

👌

@DougieFresh13 Жыл бұрын

I bought my enve M60 w I 9 hub from Cambria so I assume I have access to warranty if needed. I also have a enve carbon bar. In Chris King land I've got a dropset 2 and the new carbon wheel with Chris King boost hubs. I just purchased this wheel from a buddy who's never used it but I assume I won't have access to the lifetime rim warranty? It's all on my YETI SB5.

@PinnedTV Жыл бұрын

Wry nice. But not sure to be honest

@mattvanders 4 жыл бұрын

Got a set of rovals on my main bike and a set of Chinese nextie on my hardtail. I personally love carbon wheel but would say they don’t suit everyone (first months ride I was crashing on every corner due to the stiffness), need to be a good level of rider to get the most out of them. The weight difference between them and alloy is not the key factor but stiffness.

@PinnedTV 4 жыл бұрын

Yes good point, I hated the Enves on my hardtail, had to switch to Stan's alloy rims, but on Chris King hubs of course!! 😎😁

@raivkka4313 4 жыл бұрын

Some new carbon designed rims are coming with engineered in compliance.

@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын

Now as I got Cush Core I would not mind Carbon rims, as long as they can withstand rock strikes well. but I will stick to My Hope Enduro 29 for a while, until I got future bike built up.

@stephenbrown5844 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely buy cris King etc from saddleback

@knott4me561 4 жыл бұрын

Embrace playing in the background when he's servicing the hubs cracking local band to me from brighouse too Awesome video as always

@willbennett7107 4 жыл бұрын

I’m from brighouse too what a shit hole 😂😂

@fernfloyd 4 жыл бұрын

I should buy that $200 tool to service my CK hubs. Just wish there was a video similar to this one explaining slowly how to disassemble and reassemble them hubs.

@jamespilar9840 3 жыл бұрын

The quality of the parts speaks for reason.the a such a guarantee

@PinnedTV 3 жыл бұрын

👌👌

@carlpilbeam5216 4 жыл бұрын

I prefer hope easy to service and I’ve run them for years fault free same as there brakes and lights and they are British . But I do ride orange and ragley and you know it they British to lol 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧✅✅

@Adventures_with_Sog 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. Always loved Chris King products, very desirable.

@johnparkes2994 4 жыл бұрын

Love the attention to detail of that company, proper hand built stuff👋, would love some of it🤑🤑🤑

@raivkka4313 4 жыл бұрын

That fella from Enve, sold me! If only I had the $$$ !

@MrBigad77 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent insight there Jim, enjoyed the video. If I had the cash I’d put it up for the quality of product and service you get. Is it the service the same high standard around the world though.

@PinnedTV 4 жыл бұрын

I guess it would have to be if that country has a distributor

@jamiefield3362 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video and now we know why Chris king and enve products are for life great Video Jim keep up the good work.

@TheTonicro 4 жыл бұрын

running enve/ck combo on the road bike, saving up for mtb

@robertbransby 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid Jim, it was like watching wheeler dealers with Ed China but for hubs 👍

@pintospirits 3 жыл бұрын

What do they do with the broken rims?

@PinnedTV 3 жыл бұрын

No idea??

@gaddmeister 4 жыл бұрын

Paid £57 for a pair of Hope wheels and serviced them myself. £3k for a pair of wheels? Never, doesn't make sense. Sorry.

@TheBarnylondon 4 жыл бұрын

Ohhhh lovely stuff . I fully appreciate what goes into a chris king hub . But prefer the ease of a hope hub . No need to to strip the bearings part .... each to there're own bro

@PinnedTV 4 жыл бұрын

Yeh totally, just don't like how a Hope freehub body can fall off the hub with the cassette on

@TheBarnylondon 4 жыл бұрын

@@PinnedTV You're dead right but no tools required for a rebuild and I've never had it come apart on the bike ggggggg. Ive pondered the CK options many times during bike builds and its always come down to ....... if i go hope i can pop say eve rims on or a better shock or forks . happy trails amigo . Really enjoy tour channel , new convert and a surprise seeing Tony B on there the other day .... lovely bloke

@thomaslang7634 4 жыл бұрын

Putting compressed air to a bearing like that in not good for it . And you can blow the bearing up doing that.

@PinnedTV 4 жыл бұрын

Blow it up??? It's not Semtex!! 😂😂

@g71cey 4 жыл бұрын

Sixth element offer exactly the same for less than half the price & great wheels too! I've personally had two replacement rims from Graham under their lifetime warranty, no questions asked 🧒🏻👌🏻

@PinnedTV 4 жыл бұрын

They are great, but puncture tyres a lot, due to sharp edge of rims, I ran for a year too! Graham is a top bloke

@g71cey 4 жыл бұрын

Yes Captain, thanks for the reply ✌🏻🧒🏻 @@PinnedTV run cushcore on both my rear wheels so thankfully not an issue I can relate to (touch wood). #KeepItPinned

@teunluijbregts2533 4 жыл бұрын

If that is indeed the warranty, then they are definitely worth it. Gotta see how that policy works out in the Netherlands though... 🤔

@tomasklimo3480 4 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed watching this vlog

@01superhands 4 жыл бұрын

Good video, Rob is a legend too!

@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын

I am all for buying a product that cost more if it performs well, and has good warranty, and is easy to work on. I need a new bike built up, So Chris King defensibly is on the list, Unless I find a reason to go for something else. So far I have had good experience with their BB, Headset, but did not use it a lot, and no hard riding, but the difference is huge anyway, Race Face BB is junk, and I kill Enduro & Cane Creek bearings, at least in 2014 fuel ex, I think the headetube might be the issue. cus the wear rate is insane, I think its oversized, uneven or skewed, bad manufacturing. But Fuel EX has integrated headset, the old bike has PressFit. after a month of riding with Chris King headset and bb it was like new, I did not have to tighten anything, not the case with my fuel ex, I had to regularly tighten everything. Each part on my new bike is gonna be picked for durability,performance,reliability, I got most parts so will just swap over them.

@davidrichards2234 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely worth the money the services top notch I'd buy some if I had the money

@crit71 3 жыл бұрын

I'll not be spending £800,000 on any wheel set any time soon 😂

@poundn 4 жыл бұрын

Great Vlog Jim 👍

@sixtysecondsofstephens2386 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting Jim. Thought the kid might of had overalls on.

@ThePalmDude 4 жыл бұрын

Certainly the best looking wheels on the market 😍.

@coolcycles 4 жыл бұрын

I believe in cup & cone with an alloy halo.

@PinnedTV 4 жыл бұрын

Ran Halo's 120 pickup hubs last year, killed bearings in no time and they creaked like mad

@1brokenspoke189 4 жыл бұрын

Two grand on Enve wheels or a month in Whistler ?????

@PinnedTV 4 жыл бұрын

A month?? You living in a shed? 😂

@matthewtomlinson535 4 жыл бұрын

Having watched this video, I would be far more inclined to purchase enve products than before, however, given that the santa cruz reserves are also covered by an equally impressive warranty, they are still too costly. I have just purchased a push 11-6 from saddleback and thought that they were great to deal with.