Are Gibson Joking? Gibson Kirk Hammett Signature Les Paul Greeny Demo and Review

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John Nathan Cordy

John Nathan Cordy

Жыл бұрын

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Gibson recently jumped the shark with a few Greeny based models - this is the cheapest of the bunch at £3,000. On the plus side, the pickups (which are the same as in the expensive models) are great. But...It's a Standard Faded 50s basically?
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@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
So - this is the most expensive guitar I've bought for the channel - so sorry if I seem a little negative - please let others know if you got one of these that you love?
@jfo3000
@jfo3000 Жыл бұрын
Gibson has been joking since I bought my first Gibson LP in 1978. The LP copy that I had before it was better. But I couldn't see that immediately, in my rambunctious youth. Buyer's remorse set in pretty quickly though. Traded it for an SG (junk), and then got a Flying V (bridge in wrong place!) after that. No more Gibsons for me.
@loudspider316
@loudspider316 Жыл бұрын
All good, it's a fair comparison in terms of price vs alternatives from someone who has played all the alternatives, so it's well received.
@stephenfeldman8104
@stephenfeldman8104 Жыл бұрын
Could you not have assessed your feelings about this LP BEFORE buying it?
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
Reviewing and demoing a guitar normally necessitates having access to one
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
James is someone that I have bought gear from before who lives about 137 miles away. So no, that wasn't really an option.
@3_to_the_dome501
@3_to_the_dome501 Жыл бұрын
first kirk, then peter & gary 😂 nice one
@t.dizzle83
@t.dizzle83 Ай бұрын
That comment made the review null and void.
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio Жыл бұрын
This might just be me, but I find some people are just looking to find something negative to say. Complaining about the "Satin Nitrocellulose Lacquer" when it's clearly mentioned in the spec's is nitpicking and that's on you. That's what a satin finish is, non-glossy. If she plays great, sounds incredible, and she clearly does, no issues with the neck, body or whatever, I don't see the issue. But comparing a R9 or a custom shop murphy lab at double the price, you can't really compare those to a standard! As for weight, you can always shop around and find one lighter and more to your liking, but I am guessing you picked this one up from the seller, so you got to see it and hold it for the weight, unless it was shipped to you? On a side note, I just got my 2023 Slash November burst and its a perfect beast. Sustain, tone, looks everything! I shopped around for mine and she's 9lbs 3oz. Wide flame top, dark burst... looks like the 2008 slash special edition. Just my two cents... and great playing by the way!
@dragan4658
@dragan4658 8 ай бұрын
The point is with the less expensive finish and its $3000 on my opinion isn't not picking its being budget conscience at any price. To each his/her own. Nice guitar and yes somewhat overpriced imo. "He lives in Wales but don't hold that against him" 🤣
@realtruenorth
@realtruenorth 4 ай бұрын
​@@dragan4658 LOL, that is not a less expensive finish. Probably the most sought after finish by many legendary guitar players.
@dragan4658
@dragan4658 4 ай бұрын
@realtruenorth actually it is the less expensive finish, look it up and stop being a troll.
@realtruenorth
@realtruenorth 4 ай бұрын
@@dragan4658 you're the troll, im responding to your trolling. And NO, if you are talking cost that's one thing, but manual labor times also. I can do a Poly finish fast, but lacquer takes longer and more skill. Look at the cheap guitars out there, they are all poly finish, you will never see nitro lacquer finish on cheap guitars. If you do, probably a crappy job because it wasn't applied properly and it came from China where the guitar builders raped for their time.
@dragan4658
@dragan4658 4 ай бұрын
@realtruenorth haha ok kiddo hahaha. Look up the definition of troll, it's negative Comments without merit and that is what your comments were. My comment was not negative, get your daddy or mommy to explain the meaning of my comment as you clearly didn't comprehend it.
@andypeacockmusic
@andypeacockmusic Жыл бұрын
So the pickups are better than a standard, the top is a step above the standard, and it plays really well, and it’s a first run of a guitar that will always hold a premium price over a 2023 standard. I think in the years to come the other stuff is more subjective and you’ll Never go backwards on that guitar.
@peanutbutterisfu
@peanutbutterisfu Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’d say ur right there won’t be tons of these and in 20 years everyone that wants one will be paying a lot more then the cost now. Half of them will be gone or in a closet somewhere with the owner not knowing what it is. Really when Kirk is gone this will sell for a lot
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 Жыл бұрын
did they ever make a Peter Green signature LP ?
@godsinbox
@godsinbox Жыл бұрын
@@vincentl.9469 is this a trick question? (other than the missing reproduction signature that a dead guy cant write)
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 Жыл бұрын
@@godsinbox it says Kirk Hammett signature LP...'greeny' I guess that's close enough
@roswellminard9350
@roswellminard9350 3 ай бұрын
Interesting take and I think you may be right.
@duartefaria7134
@duartefaria7134 Жыл бұрын
Hey John, i bought my first real amp 1 week ago and i am doing the 4 method cable in the fx loop using the hx stomp. Can you help me with it? I have seen a lot of your videos on the topic but i have doubts on it. I have sound and the effects works, but already discovered things out of phase that i corrected, or i think i have done it. I just need to show it to you. I was thinking sending an email to you with a video or a link for the video on my youtube channel (I speak english well so i can communicate easly with a video). I just want to know if i am doing it right or wrong and what to do for correct it. I am also using a real wah pedal and i do not know if it is properly connected in the chain. Is frustating not knowing if i am doing the things right or wrong, i have no one that can explain to me or any local store in my city not even a small store selling music material, so i do not know if the things are correct. Can i sent you this email?
@TheAlbiCollier
@TheAlbiCollier 4 ай бұрын
Great video! How did you get those amazing amp tones? I sense they arent in My Boss Katana
@Namaste1001
@Namaste1001 Ай бұрын
What stomp preset were you using for the lead sound in the intro?
@tomsisson660
@tomsisson660 Жыл бұрын
The guitar sounds beautiful! What could possibly be wrong with it? There are many guitars that I wish sounded this good. It’s as smooth as silk. Tom Sisson
@martin-1965
@martin-1965 Жыл бұрын
It's so hard to tell from watching John playing it - he's such a beautiful player, so how much is the amp and his playing versus the guitar itself? I'd have to play the guitar myself but can't see myself shelling out the £3k+ to get one on mail order. When Gibson make those pickups available separately, then maybe for the £400 or whatever they ask for a set, then I can get hold of some and see if there really is some magic in them on their own. I agree it sounds gorgeous in John's hands but I take his points on board and wonder whether the price tag is all hype, and the only special feature is those pickups? Hopefully I can try one out if one of my local stores gets one in and I am happy to be blown away if its as good as it sounds here. Just take my money !!! 😂😂
@cinnamongirl8158
@cinnamongirl8158 Жыл бұрын
5:41
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 Жыл бұрын
@@martin-1965 however good it is, £3K is still a lot of money for a guitar ..mostly a piece of wood. There is less handcrafting involved these days compared to the 1940s & 50s, a machine can turn out a body & neck, and we didn't have factories in Malaysia, Indonesia & China ,but some people clearly don't mind ..good for them 🤨
@martin-1965
@martin-1965 Жыл бұрын
@@vincentl.9469 Agree Vincent - most I've paid for a guitar in 40+ years of playing is £1k for my Ed O'Brien Sustainer Strat. I can't justify the expense and love guitars I bought for pennies in comparison 20-30 years ago as much. I just like making music and as long as I like playing the guitar - the name and origin of the guitar means nothing to me. Frank Marino once said his guitar was just a tool and he didn't care how beat up it looked. I guess I'm from the same school, but you can include not caring where it was made into that equation :)
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 Жыл бұрын
@@martin-1965 yes ,but factories in the far east have made it possible to purchase good to high quality instruments at prices that don't require a loan in most cases...
@clives555
@clives555 Жыл бұрын
You’re playing around 9:00 is lovely and reminds me a little of Bill Frizell, would be awesome if you felt like doing a Frizell type preset at some stage?
@JazzTheMusicCat
@JazzTheMusicCat Жыл бұрын
Great playing, tone and sustain Thank for the review. In the end to me it is about the sound and playability. Agree that you probably can get that from a less expensive guitar.
@damienhick1647
@damienhick1647 Жыл бұрын
i guess the question is do we go for the Greeny or Slash LP?
@MalcTip
@MalcTip Жыл бұрын
Is ther a name for the music that you play at the opening of this video?
@Rogo472
@Rogo472 Жыл бұрын
That Gary Moore solo tone though. Always keeping it tasteful.
@tiemanschnitzel7940
@tiemanschnitzel7940 Жыл бұрын
Gary was one of the best
@mylogify
@mylogify 11 ай бұрын
Hey how many KG's was yours? There is now Greenybuckers available did you checked them out? $300. Do you still have this guitar? It's a nice guitar...
@mishea13
@mishea13 11 ай бұрын
Do you know what pickups are in there?
@thomaskinne2357
@thomaskinne2357 4 ай бұрын
How is the inlay work? There's usually a good amount of "Filler."
@CarlosFerreiraOfficial
@CarlosFerreiraOfficial Жыл бұрын
Which modeller are you using here? It sounds great! The player and the guitar should also help of course :).
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
HX Stomp!
@ianmacmillan1009
@ianmacmillan1009 Жыл бұрын
Loved the ‘Empty Rooms’ reference.
@goodearthrecordings1989
@goodearthrecordings1989 Жыл бұрын
That's a really great sounding and looking guitar! I'm not so sure if I would add it to the tones I get from my EPI 1959 Les Paul Reissue or my 1979 Gibson "The Paul" that I put original Tim Shaw PAFs in. Between my 2 Pauls and my Strats I have a great variety of tones already and I only keep 5 guitars out that I actually play a lot. Not a collector. Thanks for the video and great playing!!
@thenumber1bobo
@thenumber1bobo Жыл бұрын
Trust me, it's John thats making it sound good, not the other way around. He gets tones as good out of $500 imports with Chinese pickups.
@Anshul1614
@Anshul1614 Жыл бұрын
Have you make a video on the chords or type of chords and progressions that you go for? Just asking for music theory. I like this music but I don’t know anything. And I’m just getting into producing.
@ksharpe10
@ksharpe10 Жыл бұрын
Some of the best playing and tasteful shredding from John Cordy in this video. Wonder what preset/unit he used for this?
@gregkoelling615
@gregkoelling615 Жыл бұрын
As per usual, your playing is the highlight of the video and your comments appear to be warranted. The neck pickup is what made the Peter Green guitar famous, other than Peter Green, of course. I have a very similar looking LP with Duncan Seth Lover pickups and am quite tempted to reverse the magnet of the neck pickup. Another option is the Duncan Green Magic pickup that they sell as a set, or individually at just $149 USD with a nickel cover. Both, the Green Magic and Seth Lover pickups have alnico 2 magnets. That's a heck of a lot cheaper than the cost of a guitar with a dodgy finish, etc. and a COA. Thanks for the video and be well.
@belo1971
@belo1971 10 ай бұрын
I thought we could have Greeny sound in the middle position at every VOL and tone level ? It is true or is there a sweet spot ?Want to do the mod…thanks for your help 🙏😉
@bigboylxv5983
@bigboylxv5983 Күн бұрын
Usually you play with your volume down, the louder you turn up the volume the more the pickups start to go back in phase again, the mod is fairly simple aswell, just make sure you turn your volume down😊
@alexshevchenko7568
@alexshevchenko7568 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful intro solo! Do you have the tabs?
@stevecassidyguitar
@stevecassidyguitar Жыл бұрын
Stellar playing as always 👌 Any interest in trying out a Heritage? Gibson's have never appealed to me for some reason - although I did play a 335 about 15 years ago that was quite special 🤷‍♂
@munzo83
@munzo83 Жыл бұрын
I played this today and i thought it was incredible. Awesome finish, felt amazing and great tone!
@mylogify
@mylogify 11 ай бұрын
How heavy was it?
@benmcgurk1
@benmcgurk1 Жыл бұрын
I've a couple of R9's and this thing holds it's own with them. I love mine. It's a rock monster. I don't like hype guitars generally but I played this thing in the store and couldn't put it down. Out it came with me.Totally unexpectedly.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
That's awesome - how heavy did yours come out? I really love these pickups
@benmcgurk1
@benmcgurk1 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy Its about 9 1/2/ 4.2 kgs. So not a total bruiser at 10 pounds but not what you'd call lightweight at all either. Yes the pickups have a real clarity and still punch.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
@@benmcgurk1 yeh that's a happy medium, my 2002 standard is about that
@npr-ws9nq
@npr-ws9nq 10 ай бұрын
1. it sounds amazing. I agree the top finish seems like a weird choice. 2. can you share the signal chain at 11:03? I need my Les Paul to sound like that
@garyhart4646
@garyhart4646 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic playing.. the sound is great.. I’ve have a 70th anniversary tokai love rock, looks exactly the same..
@keiwil
@keiwil Жыл бұрын
Really nice sounding guitar! Your playing really shines with that guitar
@loopie007
@loopie007 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honesty. I HATE bindings that go over the fret ends. Everyone I have seen looks like cheap plastic covering the fret end. This makes the fret end bigger and harder on your fingers. If this was my guitar, the first thing I would do is send it to my local luthier and have him trim the plastic off the fret ends and reshape the frets. I think Gibson has just found a way to keep from having to personally finish a guitar and have them run through machine to put the binding on without having to hand shape the frets. Money saver!
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
Hey John! Hope you're well. Without the normal Nitro coating, it is more obvious than on the other LPs I've played that this is yeh...Plastic. Realistically, the nibs also do reduce the amount of fret that you've actually got access to?
@SylvanTuck
@SylvanTuck Жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a rundown on the G&L Legacy Indonesia model with maple fingerboard. When set up properly these can sound very nice.
@Jagermeistery
@Jagermeistery Жыл бұрын
You have play that DGT SE, nothing will reach that level.
@TezHibmeister
@TezHibmeister Жыл бұрын
If you wanted a similar alternative guitar for less what would people recommend?
@iamthistime
@iamthistime Жыл бұрын
Even though I am quite skeptical of nowadays Gibsons but I love sustain on that one and quite an impressive dynamic feedback but it's still quite a pricey guitar. Your playing is on top as always!
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
Yeh - I can't fault how it plays or sounds, but finishing wise I'm not overly impressed
@iamthistime
@iamthistime Жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy Thanks for reply and for your opinion! :)
@goldtop362
@goldtop362 Жыл бұрын
I think these are very disappointing! Admittedly, the pickups do sound good in your demo (are they Custombuckers?) I've been a Peter Green fan for decades but I don't think this is in any way close to his actual guitar. Sure, it's got the reverse wired neck pickup and the mismatched knobs that Gary Moore added...and, well, that appears to be it. The tops aren't even similar! I agree with you; I think Gibson are taking the pish with this guitar. I recently bought a used 58 Custom Historic VOS that is absolutely magnificent... and I paid a little over £3k for it. This "Hammett/ Moore/ Green" LP is a bit of a joke, compared to what's out the in the used market for similar money. Gibson need to have a word with themselves...
@adriennelee1520
@adriennelee1520 Жыл бұрын
@@goldtop362 Agree.. huge disappointment .. nothing Greeny about it. I have had to remake the entire guitar .. for the money that should not be necessary .. so many issues.. like Gibson didn't finish the job. Poor construction to say the least..
@goldtop362
@goldtop362 Жыл бұрын
@@adriennelee1520 yep. Just not good enough!
@cemsarioglu5947
@cemsarioglu5947 Жыл бұрын
Sounds and looks great. Thanks for the review.
@simpleone1989
@simpleone1989 Жыл бұрын
7:20 That's the tinted lacquer that they spray over the nut and part of the binding. They don't scrape it and it seems to be a normal feature on their Les Pauls.
@davidmccarroll3217
@davidmccarroll3217 Жыл бұрын
yep.... right back to the first 59RIs Gibson seem to have had trouble scraping off that last mm or so of tint on the neck binding.
@Joey_McElroy
@Joey_McElroy Жыл бұрын
Well I played one this past Saturday at the Dallas Guitar Festival. I must say it was awesome! Very fun and comfortable to play, like an old pair of jeans. Now I must say I’d buy it for the previous players not necessarily for Kirk, I’m a blues man lol. But I can definitely respect Kirk for his skill and passion for the instrument. ❤❤
@martin-1965
@martin-1965 Жыл бұрын
Ah lucky man dude - yeah, I just said above, I'd have to play it myself before handing over the cash. It sounds amazing though.
@adriennelee1520
@adriennelee1520 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Kirk has no interest to me at all, bought it for Green and Moore.. and agree with the review.. hype.
@chrisdaviesguitar
@chrisdaviesguitar 10 ай бұрын
Tried the Adam Jones Les Paul Standard yet?
@adamwatson6916
@adamwatson6916 Жыл бұрын
Mine weighs 8.7 pounds. I expected it to be 10 pounds like my 2019 50s standard so it was a pleasant surprise. It also had a very pronounced flame top
@gnrfront
@gnrfront Жыл бұрын
Mine is 8.5 pounds, the tone and resonance unplugged is so close to my 59 Reissue. I always choose my Les Pauls under 9 pounds because the Custom Shop ones are.
@adamwatson6916
@adamwatson6916 Жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these Yesterday and i must have gotten lucky because mine is outstanding and I am very hard to impress when it comes to guitars and I'm extremely anal about even the most minor flaws and I can't find one thing to complain about with this guitar . The pickups are truly amazing and i am very critical of stock pickups and swap pickups quite often but these Greeny buckers will be staying in the guitar for good. The bridge pickup does the Gary Moore riff sound perfectly. The bridge pickup is very fat and full sounding and has a wide frequency response. It's very balanced from top to bottom and it also has that hollow vintage PAF quality
@dnields
@dnields Жыл бұрын
Not lucky, just not as picky. I'm sure all of the guitars of this model are fantastic and as amazing as you find yours to be. You just don't have the mindset of trying to find something 'wrong' with it because you feel bad about spending a great deal of money. I currently have 5 Gibsons from years 1993 up to a 2021 and not a single one has any issues. They are all fantastic instruments.
@adamproctor483
@adamproctor483 Жыл бұрын
@@dnields agreed. I think Nathan’s review is almost entirely owed to his psychological hang-ups around spending money for nice things. It’s a fantastic guitar that does everything and more that a blues guy would ever want from a LP. I, for one, am tired of guitar reviews being dominated by people who hyper-focus on price and what certain guitars “should” cost. According to whom, exactly? Inflation is inflation. 10 year from now, it’ll be seen to be a really reasonable purchase price. It’s just silly. Focus on the sound, the feel, the vibe, the tone, the inspiration you get when you see it on your guitar rack. Those are the things that make a guitar a life-long asset. That’s why we make music
@GillyBibbons11
@GillyBibbons11 11 ай бұрын
I have watched a few of his videos, he seems to have it out for Fender and Gibson. He was not impressed with the American Vintage II strat, but mine is absolutely killer.
@steveg219
@steveg219 Жыл бұрын
Sounds great, maybe a high premium but seems like a great LP
@UncleYoshi
@UncleYoshi 8 ай бұрын
Nice smooth buttery playing here. Guitar sounds really good 👍🏻 Based on your review, this Greeny is not worth 3000 pounds b.c the quality is not as good as a regular les paul standard?
@Synthetrix
@Synthetrix 5 ай бұрын
Sounds great! I love the middle position tone.
@bartlettpsj
@bartlettpsj Жыл бұрын
I'm with you on this. Two cheapie but wonderful things back from the 80's and 90's - I bought a cheap Tokai Strat for £175 new (lawsuit model aparently) in Oxford and played lovely for years, got very rusty but regrettably sold (for £500) when I moved to USA. And underrated - some cheapo Zoom pedal - I still remember it sounding awesome, but kept breaking and returned it.
@mickymalibu
@mickymalibu Жыл бұрын
Is it not some kind of tribute guitar, is that why they put that finish on ? Personally I don’t go for “tribute/signature” guitars I just look for something that speaks to me why I try it, it took me 35yrs to find my Les Paul but I love it and I’ve been a Strat player all my life.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
What I meant by "tribute" here was the lower level Gibson guitars that have a similar finish. On this guitar it's a cost saving measure I'd have to imagine
@joemiller9856
@joemiller9856 Жыл бұрын
John.. Sustain was quite good but maybe that’s mostly the massive weight resonating. It did have the faithful differences between neck and bridge tones as expected and sounded true to Les Pauls. Pick ups do sound great But tone was a little brighter than I’d prefer. Excellent playing as always!
@mikeomatic9905
@mikeomatic9905 Жыл бұрын
Butt tone lol
@joemiller9856
@joemiller9856 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeomatic9905- fixed
@RByrne
@RByrne Жыл бұрын
I ordered one of these back when they came out, and it arived a couple days ago finally(im in Canada, more scarce here). I had played one in the shop, and had the same thoughts about the finish on it. Its basically a 50s standard faded, but sounds SO much better. I made the decision to buy it mainly as Im a huge Gary Moore fan and want to get those tones, but also because it's still a cool guitar. Ive smoothed the neck with super smooth 4k, 8k, and 12k micro mesh polishing pads, and it is nearly as slick as my MusicMan BFR now without changing its appearance. Ill definitely be shining up the top a bit, to a semi gloss finish. I really wish they put more effort into the finish here, as the top has many imperfections in the finish. I suspect they are trying to pass it off as a VOS or Fender Journeyman style finish. Great flame on it, though! Overall I'd rather own it than not have one. For the cost, i expected much more. Worst case, im sure these will have great resale value in the future. Edit: i smoothed and polished the top, and it made all the difference. It has the look and feel of a Custom Shop VOS, and it looks much more like the real greeny. Took me about 30mins total, and definitely worth the effort.
@roswellminard9350
@roswellminard9350 3 ай бұрын
What exactly did you do to the top, if you don't mind me asking. Thanks
@RByrne
@RByrne 3 ай бұрын
@roswellminard9350 the same thing I did to the neck. A ultra high grit sanding, then polish. I actually just sold the guitar, and the buyer was thrilled with how much better it felt than the ones hed tried out.
@ksharpe10
@ksharpe10 Жыл бұрын
Some one said that these pickups will be available at about 375 a set. Well this is like the 6th or 7th time I have watched this video, the SOUND is SO Good!!!!! now watched it about 20 times, love the Sound.
@Peter_Spang
@Peter_Spang 7 ай бұрын
god the Gary Moore tribute in there was so good man he was an incredible player you did that justice
@joedavis8481
@joedavis8481 Жыл бұрын
I got mine yesterday and I love it .... the only disappointment is that Gibson should hire esp to do their binding 🤘
@boabglen
@boabglen Жыл бұрын
To me this sounds like one of the nicest guitats I've heard you play
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
yeh - as I say I really like the pickups
@tonyhao9344
@tonyhao9344 Жыл бұрын
Sounds killer, Bose in ears, wow sounds awesome. What rig are you playing through?
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
Hx stomp!
@tonyhao9344
@tonyhao9344 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy Nice, updated my Helix last week. I was trying to get my hands on a KH Greeny, I think I’ll just wait for another R9, R8 to turn up. I’m in NZ, so they are scarce.
@edwardhodgkinson390
@edwardhodgkinson390 Жыл бұрын
I have a Gibson Gary Moore Signature which looks exactly the same and has the same pickup set-up (although your one may have a newer design). Cost me £2k second hand a couple of years ago and it's not a satin finish.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
Ooh which year was that from then?
@edwardhodgkinson390
@edwardhodgkinson390 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy Late 90s, I think. I've never checked by serial number.
@skellyngton
@skellyngton Жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried an Eastman SB59v? I think you might be pleasantly surprised.
@NFMorley
@NFMorley Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you review it, but it's a shame it seems like so many corners are being cut at such a premium price. Sadly I've felt that way about a couple Gibsons I've tried in the last year or so - I've been looking at a semi hollow and they too just didn't feel up to the price point. Not that I'm anti-Gibson or anything (got an LP Standard and LP studio in my collection atm), it just feels like there's less attention to detail in general on them now, which becomes more apparent when you see how well made far more affordable instruments now are. Did find a couple Epiphones I liked, but considering trying the Sire H7 you mentioned yesterday as that looks promising too.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
I always wondered whether maybe it was a bit of an online meme that the newer Gibson stuff can be a bit hit or miss, but yeh if you're paying premium prices, of course I think it's natural that you'd want perfection or close to it?
@NFMorley
@NFMorley Жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy Exactly - the flaws are generally little things that you could overlook if you loved the instrument otherwise, but annoying all the same. Plus Gibson don't exactly do themselves a lot of favours PR wise either so of course people bandwagon it a bit online too.
@tiemanschnitzel7940
@tiemanschnitzel7940 Жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? That thing screams! Very expressive tones. Some fine guitar work as well
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
I definitely will be looking at getting some of the Peter Green style pickups in another LP
@DreadHarvest
@DreadHarvest Жыл бұрын
Aside from the issues you mentioned it sounds lush. Some saucy playing as well!
@sgmarshall3
@sgmarshall3 Жыл бұрын
I have one and the tone really is exceptional.
@GypsyLane
@GypsyLane Жыл бұрын
That opening salvo was really nice…I’m stealing it, and writing a song! Cheers.
@nirhershkovitz2416
@nirhershkovitz2416 Жыл бұрын
Great playing!
@JD-te2pv
@JD-te2pv 7 ай бұрын
As for my experience, bought one when they first came out and my initial reaction was similar to yours. I subsequently traded it for a different guitar. Ten months later, I bought a second USA Greeny and find that one fits my needs. IMO....the $20K Murphy Lab version IS out of the question.
@Zoso981
@Zoso981 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review, personally, I've decided to wait for the Epiphone version. They haven't disappointed me over my last 3 purchases.
@sboy1955
@sboy1955 Жыл бұрын
Have sent 2 Standards back to Sweetwater in the past 5 years. Not looking for perfection - alI I ask is that they meet the build quality of my RevStar.
@kutsbothways
@kutsbothways Жыл бұрын
A nod to Cowboy Song? Iove Thin Iizzy. No doubt the guitar sound good. Been gassing for a Fender Custom shop, whew, high doIIar stuff. Gibson custom shop, again, wow at the prices. Nice review.
@IvorThomas
@IvorThomas Жыл бұрын
Over 10 lbs! Oooof! That’s a deal (and back) breaker for me. Does it have a decent neck profile? PS, I ordered a HX Stomp after seeing so many of your videos - I’m liking the new amps, logical UI and flexibility, and tiny footprint.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
The Neck profile feels comfortable yeh.
@jfo3000
@jfo3000 Жыл бұрын
It will put your thigh to sleep as well.
@DavidJosephBoth
@DavidJosephBoth Жыл бұрын
Definitely sounds great. Full range and thick.
@mikec3454
@mikec3454 9 ай бұрын
You can buy the Greeny Buckers separately now - at least that’s what my shop told me. Just buy any LP that you like and feels good, and drop the Greeny Buckers in to get that middle position sound.
@davidsartorius6631
@davidsartorius6631 9 ай бұрын
What are you playing through here?
@alexshevchenko7568
@alexshevchenko7568 Жыл бұрын
I used to have a Les Paul Traditional and a Custom Shop Elegant. Got rid of them because of QC issues. I still keep my ES-335 though.
@thomaskinne2357
@thomaskinne2357 4 ай бұрын
Ah someone, who actually tells it like it is, regarding Gibson QC. Thank you!
@ladyluckdrums
@ladyluckdrums Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous guitar though and your playing was captivating!
@Somenite
@Somenite Жыл бұрын
They are expensive but only $200 more than the regular standards now and from what I've seen they have better tops, you get the greeny pickups and the frets are different for those you find them more comfortable. They are $700 more than a faded but if the better top and other features are things you want then they don't seem crazy overpriced. I also imagine that down the line they will have a better collectability factor than a regular standard or faded so possibly better resale. All that said, I like a gloss finish and not interested is something getting a relic look quicker so would go with a regular standard.
@TimMilliken
@TimMilliken Жыл бұрын
I bought a 50s gold top in 2019. I really think the quality and spec is superb except for a very dry fretboard.
@marksanders2784
@marksanders2784 Жыл бұрын
Can't help but feel sceptical of this one, as much as I appreciate the Greeny guitar, for £3k this could have been better. I have a set of Matts Bethnal Green pickups, just haven't found 'the one' to put them into but I think maybe a second hand R9, or even a standard faded could be the way to go.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
Agreed. To be honest, I think given that the pickups are what differentiate this guitar, I'd be much happier putting them in a LP that I think matches up in terms of build/weight - and that might mean either going for the R9/R8 custom shop stuff even an older standard or something if it plays and looks good?
@jeremydahm2124
@jeremydahm2124 7 ай бұрын
Feeling the grain on a satin is the beauty of it. Definitely dings and ages quicker. It also resonates better and feels way less sticky. That's one of the high points for me anyway.
@sizzlemann
@sizzlemann Жыл бұрын
I love the sound and vibe of the Les Paul. Owned one, 2013 Traditional goldtop! Biggest piece of crap I ever bought. You paid £300 for the guitar and £2,700 for the name on the headstock!
@tonykennedy8483
@tonykennedy8483 Жыл бұрын
Liked the nod to Empty Rooms round the 1:18 mark of the intro. Have to say I thought the PRS DGT SE was a much better sounding guitar, and I don't like PRS's and thanks to that demo you did I'm now toying with getting one I think for £3k Gibson are taking the pish
@benrobinson3438
@benrobinson3438 3 күн бұрын
My local Guitar Center has had a couple of Greeny LPs that I never even considered picking up because they didn't even look good to me. But yesterday I wad there and they had one with the most beautifully flamed top I've ever seen outside or a Custom Shop. I finally picked one up and I was really impressed with it. If "I" were to buy it, I'd definitely swap that neck pickup around. Haha
@MoreMeRecording
@MoreMeRecording Жыл бұрын
Most every time I see a review of a *proper* LP, I am thankful for the [literally] flawless, 100% handmade, SB59-GD I bought last year weighing in at a whopping 7.8lbs - apparently no SB59 can leave the shop at over 8lbs. You could really consider trying one out.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
Eastman?
@stephenfeldman8104
@stephenfeldman8104 Жыл бұрын
My 2022 SB59/V weighs 7.5lbs. There are many, however, that weigh in excess of 8lbs. There was a time, presumably, when these models were all
@MoreMeRecording
@MoreMeRecording Жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy Indeed. I bought the one featured in shane's video here. The hi-res pics that Jerry Put up are very good. One thing I love is ebony over rosewood boards - less porous - and the fretboard on this is like black glass. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btGpaLCmqcixnYk.html
@ksharpe10
@ksharpe10 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you got this going thru the TUcana carol ann?? It has a nice sound. But it will not beat the Lazarus thru that derailed ingrid, that was the BEST!!!!!
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
This is into the Eric Lead 35 preset, but I tried the Lazarus too. I do think these pickups are really really lovely....Might see about getting some Monty's Bethnal Greens put in a guitar...
@ludlow555
@ludlow555 Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you are mostly paying for a AAA top (Standards have a AA) and the pickups. I admit the choice to make it Faded is a surprise. Perhaps they didn’t want to push the price up or there might be plans for a lower priced Custom Shop version? Regardless, that guitar looks and sounds incredible. I’ve been lusting after one. Admittedly, I don’t tend to inspect my new guitars so closely.
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
Yeh I think that's about right. I mean honestly if it didn't have the faded finish (which is presumably why the Faded series is cheaper in general?) - there'd really only be the weight of this to worry about, but even so I do think it does look pretty decent. But the lines of the binding etc are quite noticeable underhand - I think Trogly also noted that the binding feels sharp - essentially there's a bit of a plastic feeling to it as there's not much finish between the plastic and your hands...But anyway. It sounds great and plays pretty good too. SO - I'm sure there are some folks out there that would be happy?
@shawnmcginnis2508
@shawnmcginnis2508 Жыл бұрын
Its not a bad top, but at the same time it seems almost closer to a top PRS would reserve for a S2 or CE. I'm rarely impressed by what Gibson considers a nice top. That said, it sounds amazing ! !! !
@MrBallsOfficial
@MrBallsOfficial Жыл бұрын
I wanna see somebody relic one of these where they look similar to the Murphy Lab versions.
@zach4058
@zach4058 Жыл бұрын
Now the real question is, do it djent?
@mikedr1549
@mikedr1549 Жыл бұрын
It looks beautiful and sounds beautiful! Frankly I get the sentiment but I feel like you're nit picking a bit with regards to QC. When you pay a premium you certainly expect to get a perfect instrument but the things that matter (plays great - sounds great - stays in tune, etc) are all good by your account so in the end i would over look the minor blemishes (both my Les Pauls have minor blemishes) and enjoy the guitar! In fact the things that give an instrument some charm come from the human element (as opposed to the automated elements of building one) in my opinion.
@stephenharrison7514
@stephenharrison7514 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain how PRS churns out guitars day in day out and simply don't have Gibson's QC problems?
@mikedr1549
@mikedr1549 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenharrison7514 It's a fair point. My PRS is literally perfect - but I rarely play it. I think John's expectations were fair - a high end guitar should have a higher standard of QC - but in the end I (just my opinion - I'm not saying John is wrong) don't think it's a big deal as long as the instrument performs as it should. If the bridge was messed up or it won't intonate properly then I would have a problem with it.
@scottbrower9052
@scottbrower9052 8 ай бұрын
​@@mikedr1549I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
@lueysixty-six7300
@lueysixty-six7300 7 ай бұрын
@@stephenharrison7514 PRS's core tenet is _"perfection"._ Every guitar company has a core tenet, whether they think of it as such, or not. Fender has always been: _made to fit ordinary players._ Ibanez are : _"Fender on steroids"._ Gibson has always been: _Authentic, American made, hand made mahogany instruments._ With handmade instruments, what you gain in tonal & build character, you lose in perfect uniformity. PRS strives for this flawlessness, and it comes, somewhat, at the coat of character. The biggest complaint of PRS is that that, yes , they may be flawless, but they also lack any real character or soul. People often gripe about Gibson QC, pointing out that Squier can pump out thousands of identical replicas, without (many) flaws. But that fails to understand the value of and nature of hand built guitars vs mass produced, machine made guitars. I have both Gibsons and a PRS, aswell as the other brands mentioned (except Squier). One is not "better" than the other. Each have their own set of Pros and Cons, arising from each Companies' ethos & vision.
@ericjenks9596
@ericjenks9596 Жыл бұрын
It’s less true today than 5 years ago, but I always thought the best Les Paul for the money was a used custom shop r8 or r7. Spend an extra $400-500 over the top of that kirk hammet greenie, and you have the best modern lp you can buy
@billtownsend
@billtownsend 4 ай бұрын
Your playing makes the guitar sound great. Love the out-of-phase tone! The satin finish is in homage to the real "Greeny".
@ksharpe10
@ksharpe10 Жыл бұрын
It got stellar marks from me for Sound. Can't get over how GREAT this Guitar Sounded.
@j_freed
@j_freed 8 ай бұрын
Superb playing, cool!
@joejohnson8966
@joejohnson8966 Жыл бұрын
11:00 - 12:38 best you've ever sounded.
@tonyhao9344
@tonyhao9344 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@joemilam8068
@joemilam8068 Жыл бұрын
Is it worth 3 times more than the Lazuras?
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
It plays slightly better, looks slightly better, sounds slightly better, is nearly 2lbs heavier....For me - no
@joemilam8068
@joemilam8068 Жыл бұрын
@John Nathan Cordy I love using entry-level guitars to do the same thing as others who buy things for brand name. I once used an ESP that was found on the floor in an abandoned storage locker to record in the studio. The engineer said no, but I convinced him otherwise .
@christopherjbutler
@christopherjbutler Жыл бұрын
The tone and playing was smokin man.
@AndyK.23
@AndyK.23 Жыл бұрын
Killer playing and tone! Not sure why Gibson didn't use cherry for the back - the real Greenie has a cherry back. Definitely looks like a faded - with Greenie features.
@realtruenorth
@realtruenorth Жыл бұрын
I hate the cherry back, I'm glad they didn't do it. Looks like McDonalds color theme.
@GSahni-
@GSahni- 5 ай бұрын
I bought the Epiphone Greeny in early Dec...Love that thing!
@petercnixon
@petercnixon Жыл бұрын
Alan Dingwall's Peter Green pickups are the best I've tried
@ctcm
@ctcm Жыл бұрын
Hi John. Thanks for the video. You might have solved a dilemma I've been having. I'm a PRS guy through and through, but having been on a Tool streak recently, I realized I want to have a dedicated drop D guitar (some of the other bands I play are in drop D as well). I am considering the Adam Jones Standard, the Adam Jones Epiphones and the McCarty 594 SE. After listening to what you had to say about this particular Les Paul (which has always been on my bucket list as well) and your SE 594 review, you might have given me the answer. Either go for the Adam Jones Epiphones or the 594 SE. Thanks!!!
@PerryCodes
@PerryCodes Жыл бұрын
Great coverage - odd ending ;)
@gingersteve
@gingersteve Жыл бұрын
I haven't played a Greeny yet, and personally I wouldn't pay £3,000 for it (Gibson prices aren't exactly palatable these days). But, I also do think you've cast the review a bit more negatively than I expected in light of the criticisms you did have. If we ignore the slight price premium over a Standard (and the more significant premium over a Faded), there was actually very little wrong with this guitar. You said the fret work was good, it was a good weight, played really well and the pickups sounded good. Gibson are constantly slammed over QC, but here we have a Gibson where the QC seems to have worked. When I'm looking to buy a guitar, these are the boxes it needs to tick. The only substantive criticisms I remember you going over were the type finish (which Gibson clearly advertise), the binding marks near the nut (which is lacquer overspray, and not great, but does not affect playability) and some visible binding scraping. Nearly every guitar I've played with binding has had some visible scraping, its just a by-product of hand scraping the fingerboard - Gibson would be slammed again if they didn't do this by hand (many people criticise them for CNCing neck and body blanks). I own a good few Gibsons now (including some under the new management), and they are all absolutely excellent - and all either have some overspray, some scraping, or other slight weird quirks from being worked on by hand. I've seen similar levels of "issues" on US Fenders, PRSs, G&Ls, Suhrs, etc. I completely get that these issues do matter to some people, but I have come to learn that they can be a distraction from an otherwise great guitar. I almost sent an SG back for a few of these things, I'm glad I didn't because I absolutely love it. In terms of the price, Gibson charge it because they know people will pay it - and people did, seeing as they've pretty much all sold out. And I wouldn't really say that you get nothing extra for the money (though whether its enough extra is up for debate!), you get a unique set of pickups, a more figured top and the Greeny aesthetic. If those are things you care about, you'll pay the price. I don't mean any of this harshly, I enjoy your videos and I do think you pointed out the good aspects of the guitar. Whether the price is right is completely subjective, but I think it at least seems like a very good guitar!
@scotthowes1869
@scotthowes1869 8 ай бұрын
I know that you are saying that the guitar may be over priced. But that is one of the best recordings of a guitar that I have heard through my computer. That thing sounds amazing. Personally, as a guitar player, I'm not as concerned at the price (usually cheaper) as much as I am how it plays and how it sounds.
@edparker3549
@edparker3549 Жыл бұрын
I must say I got a Les Paul premium from Peach Guitars in 2015 which was simply incredible. I did however have to go through virtually the whole shop including custom shops before I got THE one good one. I was amazed at how awful even some of the custom shop ones were. If you’d have said they were Chinese Copies I’d have believed you. For that price you expect exceptional not just average. Mine definitely has that mojo so I’m keeping it forever, but good luck to anyone else cutting the wheat from the chaff
@johnnathancordy
@johnnathancordy Жыл бұрын
I don't know whether my expectations are unrealistic, but if you can play a bunch etc then that has to be the route to finding the one that speaks to you!
@edparker3549
@edparker3549 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnathancordy 100%
@ThinkReal
@ThinkReal 2 ай бұрын
Very nice playing.
@mojo9291
@mojo9291 11 ай бұрын
It's a let down that they are not a gloss finish. I'd assumed they were regular LP standards upgraded to Greeny specs.
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