But too much content has become more acceptable in this day and age and borderlines in being purely pornographic and the such, not saying it's wrong or should be marginalised but there is a fine line to what could be called entertainment like with most forms of accessible mass media. If you are old enough and decide to engage such material then you should be old and mature enough to be accountable for your actions...

@@tortillas.56710 ... I think you're having a different conversation than OP is having

It doesn't help that the industry projects itself that way on purpose.

These are the same snobs that shelter their kids from things like “The Death of Mr Hooper” for fear of scaring them, then wonder why their offspring have such a hard time dealing with the world.

It's acceptable for adults to look at live action movies; photographs that move. It's acceptable for adults to look at still photographs on the wall of a museum. It's acceptable for adults to look at drawings and paintings on the wall of a museum. But it's not acceptable for adults to look at drawings and paintings that move?

Hopefully not a long pillow. :)

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@@SidV101 *That'swhatHEsaid

*Looks at the hobbit triollogy movies...* *Looks at the lord of the rings books...* I mean it depends...

Just because its short doesn't mean it's good.

I'd argue by asking them what their favorite tv show is. (If they don't watch tv, then you can't get them with this argument.) Anyway, ask them what their favorite tv show is, then quickly retort with a question. "Well dearie, why is it okay for you to watch a mindless, controlling picture box that shows you what to see and tells you what to think, and then NOT OKAY to read a harmless, quick read with copious amounts of detailed imagery, followed by carefully chosen words of dialogue, or a quick glimpse into a characters thought process? Why, even some of these paragraphs are still needed to set the right tone or to set up a scene. It still works. Just because it's not laying down detailed descriptions of imagery, doesn't mean that you aren't able to process or glean anything less from staring at it's finely rendered pictures. A comic book is a book. A graphic novel is a novel." "While I think being able to decribe things in vivid detail is important, it's another thing to understand the point of the story or it's lessons they teach us. Either way, we become informed, whether it is a picture or a wall of text. We are informed. Do consider reading these finely crafted pieces of art in the future. They demand your attention as much as any old book." Then bow or something, I don't know, haha. Customers will probably stare at you, but a smile is as disarming as anything.

As another librarian, seconded. There's so much good graphic non-fiction too--the aforementioned Fun Home, Persepolis, and Maus, Joe Sacco and Guy Delisle's comic journalism, I don't know if Kate Beaton's webcomics collections count but her strips on history and literary figures are great as well.

Thank you for your stand. I have found it delightful that every library I've visited in the USA and here in Iceland has a great collection of graphic novels, thanks to librarians. In Iceland there are comics in various languages: English, Icelandic, Danish, French and more. It's a great way to improve your skills in a language.

Graphic novels is the main reason I even got into reading. My parents tried to pay me to read and even then I couldn't be tempted by money. I'm not good at visualizing so a lot of writing styles don't appeal to me and even then everyone has their likes so trying to find a story and writing style I like has been extremely hard (though it's lessen over the years). The stories and images helped me become invested at all and inspired me into writing.

one of my favorite things to do when I visit local libraries is ask where their graphic novels are, one time I went into (redacted) public library and asked and the young librarian behind the desk sighed and said they don't have them, I just stared at her and stammered "but they circulate, like a lot!" she sighed again and said that the older librarians who bought materials for the library didn't see the value in getting graphic novels...so yeah, it's still a vibe that's out there.

Watchmen’s writer Alan Moore had mentioned that he was annoyed that the Time Magazine article on the 100 greatest works of English fiction which listed Watchmen had made no mention of any other graphic novels such as Chris Ware’s Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid on Earth, Brian K. Vaughn’s Saga, Art Spiegleman’s Maus and quite a fair number of other works.

I was surprised too

It was weird. If you are making a video about "graphic novels" it feels strange excluding at least a mention of watchmen that was a major drive in the graphic novel market, and still is. I think it was omited for other reasons.

Dark Knight Returns is just okay so I get it not being mentioned. but Watchman is legitimately the best graphic novel ever written.

@@VeryDryBones the Dark Knight returns revitalized a character that was more known for his campy 60s show.

I'm very happy for you! That's awesome! Reading really should be fun, not a struggle. I have a cousin who struggled heavily with dyslexia. It's still a struggle for her on some things, like reflections and such, but she's a fast reader now.

props to you - also big whoop to neurological diversity

@@janehowlett5158 Thank you. :)

Awesome! :) My cousin's step-kid also had dyslexia and hated reading... until I introduced him to a couple of manga series I enjoyed. And suddenly, he was reading at least a book a week. His mom said that if it wasn't for graphic novels, her son probably still wouldn't be reading to this day.

@@felisd I can't think anything better for helping a kid to read, and not just Dyslexic kids like me or your cousin's step-kid.

It's an amazing book - I'll never forget the first time I read it. By use of its illustrations combined with text, it had an almost visceral impact.

And the subtle details clueing us in to race and trauma, as well as the blatant, more direct clues of the holocaust. It's a great read because of the range of emotions I felt while reading it. It's surreal in many ways, but all too real when you consider the historical comparisons. I just, I enjoyed the honesty, despite the analogies.

Despite the use of animals in that book, it always struck me how deeply deeply human it felt. It’s really a masterpiece.

Loved Maus...my school banned it though 😭

@@phantomflower6749 Really? I wonder why. To me, it seems an excellent educational device for introducing students to the experience of the Holocaust - and in a way that high school students, in particular, could relate to. But sadly, banning certain books is not an uncommon practice in some school districts.

Ex-girlfriend ... good good

Emm aren't you been a snob too?

@@victoriap1561 i don't think op meant to look down upon tv, rather i think they juxtaposed the ridiculousness of dismissing the comic book and graphic novel medium as intellectually valid, while the ex clearly considers tv at least worth their time and attention, while giving her reasons, tv is a worse offender than the comics, and as such through her logic, should consider tv not intellectually valid at all. Makes you wonder if she thinks that why would she watch it at all. Basically, hypocritical logic. Probably unintentional on her part tho haha we all have leaps of logic sometimes

As a comicbook artist. It's not wrong but compare to TV? Eeeesh!

@@tac-floor1330 it's a literal direct comparison though, comics are less valid because they are mostly pictures, tv is pretty well defined as mostly pictures.

agreed. not to mention it's in graphic novel format itself! and to my knowledge, the .pdf is available freely and legally online.

We had to read it for my AP Lang class lol

This was a GREAT book

yes!

Agreed, it's very good!

Its so good!!

I just started reading that this morning!! Love it

Punisher: Born might be of interest to him. One of the best graphic novels I've read, and one of the best war stories.

This is so true. Comics made me read faster and read deeper, so much so, that I now find myself comfortable and not intimidated by big blocks of text.

I was at a party once and this guy (Gen Xer, college professor) totally dismissed graphic novels / comics and I said "oh hello 1950's? ah yes, you'd like your high school principal back?" (anyway, we're not friends, LOL)

Then the meaning of the word "comic" is invalid?

@@Always8Baka not really, I just consider comics to be shorter than graphic novels, as novella is shorter than a novel and a short story is shorter than that so are comic books shorter than graphic novels.

Maus won a Pulitzer in 1992; it came out much earlier. It was first released in installments in the cmics anthology Raw; it was then released collected into volumes starting in 1986.

The first chapter came out in 1978

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I read them by myself but i'm a bit jealous.

Rat Queens, baby! Yeah! 🤘🖤❤

@@KiX-K4T13 I've read up to Vol 7 but Vol 2 is my favorite so far

I was about to write something similar. In some European countries comics have always been a respected medium of its own. There's lot of mature stories aimed at adults

The French speaking world (mainly Belgium, France and Quebec) has a long standing love for BDs (bandes dessinées, what you call comic books) and graphic novels. For us, comics only refer to the US comic versions (superheroes comics or 4 panels newspapers comics). For us, a BD is anything that combines images and text on a paper support. Graphic novels (romans graphiques) is defined as a looser form of BD, one that is not confined to panels and bubbles format and they are generally longer. Whatever you call them, you'll find them at your nearest bookstore or library. BDs are viewed as a serious literary art form. There are festivals for them and general medias (TV, radio and newspapers) talk about the newest publications. Comics artists and writers are invited at literary shows and festivals. Most of my adult friends (and they are far from comic book fans) have at least one BD aimed for adults in their bookshelf.

@@anne12876 exactly! 👆

Valid, I guess. It's such a circus.

I won't disagree about that!

Manga usually is a chapter by chapter experience in Japan. Imagine only getting to read a single chapter of manga every week/month. That is all that comic books are doing here but instead of calling them chapters they are called issues. Manga outside of japan usually is in the 'collected editions' or volumes. And the term in the comic book community for a bunch of issues put together is a Trade, derived from Trade Paperback Books.

@@kid14346 A friend just informed me of the 'Tankobons' that are apparently what I have been getting. He showed me a Shonen Jump collection of his that had many different comic stories, but one or two chapters at a time. And I thought a season of Dragon Ball Z dragged on. ^_^; Now I see why they have those filler episodes.

That's awesome. She is a published author on the subject

What a shame, The Outsiders would make a great graphic novel

I liked Fruits Basket. Its geared to teens, with a pretty innocent love triangle/romance and a guy who's a bit of a ladies' man, but I would totally let my kids pick up my copies once they're old enough to actually read the words. Right now my 7yo still prefers Thomas the Tank Engine and my 4yo Llama Llama. Of course your mileage may vary.

"expsely?"

@@daveh3997 My bad

Oh no...

I assume you have heard about what's happened in Tennessee since you made this video.

I didn't know that. That's really interesting! Especially because my personal introduction to comics was the funny 4 panel strips in the Sunday newspaper, then the bound collections like Archie, Casper, and Richie Rich, and finally the full array of "comics" as they are found in comic book stores.

In Spain they're called "tebeos" because there was a very old, very famous comic magazine called TBO. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TBO_(comics) In Italian they're fumetti (fumetto = puff of smoke) because of the shape of the speech bubbles.

Read sa goražde, solid work

But super proud of you for being able to. A big issue these days lol

That's hilarious, but more people should be vulnerable and brave in the face of facts, or be ignorant to them forever by living a deception or lie. I hope you are choosing the former.

@@KiX-K4T13 i chose the former and owe my friend boba tea

Please say you hadn't read Maus. Then read it. And prepare to feel lots of feelings.

@@hardbargains Hey, we win some and we lose some. I've been there lots of times. Never got a boba tea though. 😞