What does that term mean? I didn't watch the movie with rapt interest or is it a term derived completely unrelated to the movie by the same name?

@@MisterMister5893it’s a metaphor “A situation in which events that have happened before happen again, in what seems to be exactly the same way”

​@MisterMister5893 in the movie the protagonist relives groundhog day repeatedly and is the only one the wiser

A lot of corporate buys unfortunately.

You’re crazy if you think they don’t want to be selling tickets to round 2, 3 and 4. Leaving millions on the table by losing in the first round. Makes sense financially for them to succeed

All three are untradeable, wouldn't you say?

Not as easy as you think It’s not NHL 24 buddy lol. Would be a miracle if they find a way to trade even one of those guys

Yeah and if every every wish I had was a Dollar then I would be a would be a millionaire.

Name one trade partner for John Tavares

MM will most definitely not get you a solid piece or prospect. At his salary cap with only a year remaining on a NTC no less, you'll be lucky to get a second rounder. Other Gm's don't ever toss you a liferaft.

Excellent summary for that notable press conference.

First of all, you can't really blame Treliving for the failing of this team, wholesale. Keefe fell on the sword for Shanahan and Dubas. How much meddling Shanahan had in Dubas' moves is pure speculation. Maybe we will read about it in a memoir when he retires but by all accounts, Dubas wasn't fired, but engineered his departure. I don't see any appreciable benefit in dismissing Shanahan right now given the new "head master" reigns. He is definitely on a short leash and will have to show significant progress next season or he doesn't return. Whether he believes a new coach will be the x-factor with these guys remains to be seen and we'll know the answer this year. Brendan has stuck with his vision for 9 years now, what's one more? He believes the talent is there to get the job done and I can't say I blame him. A lot of the breakdowns this season was directly the failing of the coach not pivoting when the team suffered crisis of confidence during games or during stretches of games. Everyone says Keefe isn't a bad coach given his strong record. When you're as stacked as the Leafs are, it's hard not to have success drop on your lap. Let's see what a new coach and their vision can do with this team. Also, Babcock had possibly the most stacked team in history with those Detroit teams. I would say they rivalled the Oiler's Dynasty years so the team he had in Toronto didn't quite match up and his lack of success is understandable.

The new CEO should have put his stamp on the team. Should have gutted it. Everyone gone. But it sounds like a rinse and repeat.

I think Dubas sold Shanny on the cap going up to justify Marner $. That was the failure - if marner took Nylander money...Marner is under less pressure, and that extra $4m is a better goalie or a 2A on D.

Considering how that's never stopped people from being moved in the past, don't be surprised if they do get traded! Only need to look as far back as Kaberle for a Leaf with a NMC, Burke traded him to Boston.

@@RobbieG17 oh it could happen But all the power is in the players hands, so I'm not expecting it.

Useless organization

​@@ryanm776if the Leafs simply say they don't want him after next year and make it public, why wouldn't he want to leave ? I'm hopeful they move him

@@JimmyKnies I hope they move him too However, if they make it public then that greatly lessens his value and the team loses leverage!

Mitch Kerfoot takes a lot of heat here. Lol from who, I haven't heard any boo-ing when he's on the ice. Or did Dregs mean social media tells the truth, when it comes to his performance.

That's his job.

Have you considered there may not be a good replacment out there

I think Shanny believed in Dubas. Dubas got his lunch money taken by Ferris, Shanny convinced the board the salary cap would go up. Here we are. What is Marner worth noting that playoffs are physical.

@@nadia0701 Dubas came from the OHL. He never negotiated a pro contract until he had to re-up Nylander. Hiring an inexperienced GM is on Shanahan. Even if the salary cap rose significantly other teams would still have more cap space than the Maple Leafs.

Agreed. The lack of team inspiration is a mark of coaching problems.

That’s what it is looking like. Hopefully they get a solid coach and have a healthy goaltender all the time….

You're acting like a player with a no-trade clause has never been traded. What an absurd take.

Good shape again?

Say what you will, if the Gm calls you in and says, "we don't want you anymore", why would you stay and damage your career?

Which one? Theres literally hundreds of them every year around this time🤣

Soy Leafs 🍼🤣

Who would replace him though there probably isnt anyone out there right now

Three stooges on a stooge channel

Only spent 8 seconds before seeing your comment. Gone

@@tobinkern5389 I wonder if TSN or YT censored it?

Plus the microphones were crackling which made listening difficult.

He probably prefers Colorado to Ontario. He is from Calgary and the rockies in Denver are more his thing. Everyone thinks playing under the spot light of Toronto is every player's aspiration. Not everyone wants to be some kind of saviour for this franchise's cup-less curse.

MLSE=DEI=Ontario Teachers Union. Nothing good will ever happen for this team while they are in control.

Marner Will Be Traded Out

That won’t happen after Babcock. They need Brind’Amour…..

@@scottdellaire4552 Thank You for your comment & answer. I don't think that they would do it, but, as I'm sure that you'll agree, they need A Hard A*s Coach, if these players, who are Great in The Regular Season, are to perform (or, are capable of it) after. Let me know what you think

@@scottdellaire4552 PS. I really & truly don't know if Brind'Amour or Berube would be tough, which is what I think that The Toronto Maple Leafs need, now that they've moved on from Sheldon Keefe. At the very least, I think that's what I got out of The Press Conference, not to even mention, that Darryl Sutter was The Coach under GM Brad Treliving. Let me know what you think

Claude Julian

Pelly is just the man behind the curtains. The needs of the Leafs are handled by Shanahan and Treliving. He's only here to make sure they function in harmony and keep the brand profitable again.

" I wanted to hear-we need to get bigger and tougher!I" Another dumb redneck.

When he started talking about Shanny the player instead of the executive, that's all we needed to know.

I said the same when the Jays joined MLB and the Raptors joined NBA

Guaranteed

They aren't even close and they all know it.

Just wait one year until he becomes a free agent. Someone can probably sign him for a realistic contract. Maybe 7-7.5 million?

​@@larrygrassinger2819maybe 5-6 years ago. If Pierre luc Dubois got 8.5 why would Marner be worth less. He could get 10-12 mil from any team really

@@codymachado That's funny. You're comparing one loser to another loser. Good joke, but it's not funny.

​@larrygrassinger2819 You Can Trade Marner Get A Player & 1 & 2 Rounder Or You Can Get Marner To Pittsburgh For A Player To Be Named Later & 1 & 2 Rounder

Funnily enough, he would probably excel under that format. He just won't get reward the same way. Who knows, if it picks up and its fan base grows, the financial rewards may be at par and it's anybody's guess what will happen. Remember that game from MidWay 3 on 3 hockey with the gigantic heads? Who didn't prefer to play those to the standard format 5 vs 5 hockey games? IT's different, exciting and fast pace. And everyone now loves TikTok, Instagram and even KZfaq Shorts compared to the long form stuff.

Did you like how the Leafs handle the Kadri situation? I sure did.

@@StephenShawCanada No I was very upset, Kadri was basically Darcy Tucker/Doug Gilmour the kind of player we apparently love and we shat all over him from his first preseason

@@StephenShawCanada and I was very happy to see him shit all over the St Louis Blues and their racist fanbase with that hat trick...in fact he schooled Tim Thomas on those shootout goals when he was a leaf as well...

@@StephenShawCanada Kadri one of my favourite players I love ppl that can overcome adversity and succeed

@@StephenShawCanada who's your favourite NHL team and player

WN prefers to avoid contact but will step forward on occasion while MM always goes the other way. Except of course when there is the option for a dipsey doodle curlicue Brian Boitano triple salchow.

He does but hes probably still on because there isnt a good replacement out there for him yet tbh

Have you considered there may not be a good replacement out there yet

@@carter7944 I don’t give a crap if there’s no replacements I’d rather have no one than the same old garbage