Are Manchester United BIGGER than Barcelona and Liverpool? 🔥💪 Simon Jordan & Danny Murphy debate!

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Жыл бұрын

Manchester United have had a rapid decline during the past ten years. BUT are they still the BIGGEST football club in world football? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Danny Murphy discuss!
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@drakenkraken8455
@drakenkraken8455 Жыл бұрын
A good football club like Chelsea moved on Lukaku after one poor season. A bad club like Man Utd kept Pogba for 6 seasons even though it was obvious he was not fitting in. Why? They needed a high value player like Pogba to inflate the value of club to investors on NYSE. Same with Ronaldo. 2 of the Glazers had a windfall selling shares after Ronaldo joined the club. Glazers prevented Mourinho from selling Martial. Thats what Louis Van Gaal meant by "Commercial Club." They are running the club to the Ground.
@goonerinit
@goonerinit Жыл бұрын
That squad has always had way deeper issues than paul pogba.
@Dan-mm1yl
@Dan-mm1yl Жыл бұрын
They got to keep high value players as assets so they can get their big dividends which is why maguire can't be benched. While he is playing he is 80 million on the asset sheet Glazers couldn't care less about the share price they bought the club with finance they get their dividends without putting a penny in themselves. aslong as they keep big value signings playing the free money keeps rolling for them
@GGMU100
@GGMU100 Жыл бұрын
On the scale of Liverpool and man united chelsea are a bunch of nobodies they have no history nothing clubs a joke
@yip2454
@yip2454 Жыл бұрын
Becaus ehe seels jersey profits has been glazer's piorities
@ep9421
@ep9421 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Phil Jones 🤪
@confusedsheeple572
@confusedsheeple572 Жыл бұрын
Crossing over was Maguire’s fault
@Bushwacker-mb6hw
@Bushwacker-mb6hw Жыл бұрын
Whole club joke from top to bottom now about to waste more money on bad signings season after season 😂
@johnmccadden9963
@johnmccadden9963 Жыл бұрын
Everything is Maguires fault apparently. War in Ukraine? Gah !! Maguire again....
@jonathanspencer1852
@jonathanspencer1852 Жыл бұрын
When Darren Fletcher is your sporting director you know you have hit rock bottom. When your in debt over 500million you know your in trouble
@FOOTIATOR
@FOOTIATOR Жыл бұрын
Not glazers! Being top class bankers, it might not be an issue for them
@ryanthompson8029
@ryanthompson8029 Жыл бұрын
Alex ferguson cost united massivley by being obsessed with getting hes fellow jock in guardiola or klopp should have been lined up
@TheRagdollrejects
@TheRagdollrejects Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t have made a difference with these owners.
@galleon8129
@galleon8129 Жыл бұрын
Finally seen someone that knows the Genesis, he probably didn’t want another ambitious coach to take over directly after him.
@rohithraman6488
@rohithraman6488 Жыл бұрын
He was a genius, he appointed Moyes who is a good manager but not good enough for man utd just to show how good a job Fergie did with the likes of Jones, young, cleverley, smalling etc
@galleon8129
@galleon8129 Жыл бұрын
@@rohithraman6488 lol, how is it a good job then?
@rohithraman6488
@rohithraman6488 Жыл бұрын
@@galleon8129 He appointed someone who is far below his level just to show how good a job winning the league with Jones, Cleverley, Smalling and Young was
@boni_slinger
@boni_slinger Жыл бұрын
Bigger: Commercial club: Manchester united Football club: Liverpool
@tianco.moneyhouse
@tianco.moneyhouse Жыл бұрын
Exactly, all the points Simon makes are from a commercial stand point.
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 Жыл бұрын
liverpool will overtake Utd on the commercial side this season. How do you come to the conclusion that Liverpool are a bigger football club???
@tianco.moneyhouse
@tianco.moneyhouse Жыл бұрын
Won more trophies, been competitive consistently for longer, even in their barren spell they were competitive. Better and more supportive fan base, better stadium atmosphere, more European success and European appeal.
@tyronedouglas3556
@tyronedouglas3556 Жыл бұрын
😂😂 man said better stadium atmosphere I AM DYIN 😂
@Mehh09222
@Mehh09222 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain what's that mean? Do you think fans support a team because it generate more money? What a dumb comparison you made.
@festnotfirst
@festnotfirst Жыл бұрын
Jim White is having fun with the response he’s getting to those questions
@yass6305
@yass6305 Жыл бұрын
The Glazers have been sapping the money and soul out of this great club for more than a decade now.
@greysouljr8913
@greysouljr8913 Жыл бұрын
Also, this tells a little story: 50 million on wan bisaka 80 million on maguire 90 million on pogba 43 million on falcao 60 million on di Maria 80 million on sancho 40 million on shaw 75 million on lukaku 50 million on martial 40 million on mata 40 million on matic 60 million on Bruno 40 million on varane 40 million on mikhiterian 40 million on van db 40 million on Bailey 35 million on schniderlin 35 million on herera 35 million on Sanchez 35 million on delay 35 million on fellani 20’million on dalot 35 million for diallo 20 million for rojo 20 million for darmian 20 million for Jones 20 million Dan James 20 million blind 20 million for kagawa 20 million tells 20 million zaha
@prototypeprototype8878
@prototypeprototype8878 Жыл бұрын
And still they have enough money to buy flops of 100mil and 80 mill, this only shows that Man Utd are the biggest club in the world but their management is poor
@randyschwaggins
@randyschwaggins Жыл бұрын
What a f*cking boring story
@AP-di6gu
@AP-di6gu Жыл бұрын
Blimey! Have United got dirt on Simon Jordan?! He often sucks up to the club, but his comments here are ridiculous.
@tg007ful
@tg007ful Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's like United have Jordan bent over a table while he waves his pom poms
@AP-di6gu
@AP-di6gu Жыл бұрын
@@tg007ful Indeed.
@TheTrend222
@TheTrend222 Жыл бұрын
Hate the truth 😭 still the bigggest
@AP-di6gu
@AP-di6gu Жыл бұрын
@@TheTrend222 If you were the biggest, De Jong would be busting a gut to join you, but he's not; he'd rather take a pay cut and miss out on large deferred payments at Barca than play for yous. Barca are bigger than you, and so are Madrid.
@slashthe2nd
@slashthe2nd Жыл бұрын
@@TheTrend222 we're not acting like that though are we.
@arsenalkings1
@arsenalkings1 Жыл бұрын
Bigger laughing stock maybe.
@dbags9096
@dbags9096 Жыл бұрын
Man Utd are in a bad phase and we all laugh at maguire but wasn’t long ago Liverpool went 30 years no titles so let’s stay humble because when Klopp leaves could be Liverpool we laugh at stay humble
@kahluaenthusiast1510
@kahluaenthusiast1510 Жыл бұрын
I dont think Man Utd fans were staying humble in the 90s/00s 🤣🤣🤣
@MegaHesekiel
@MegaHesekiel Жыл бұрын
I'm an Arsenal fan but I know mau United are the biggest club in the world, in Africa the most followed clubs are 1. Man utd, 2. Arsenal 3. Chelsea Liverpool are not as big as people think in Africa.
@kingkenzokwansa
@kingkenzokwansa Жыл бұрын
Real Barça Liverpool Bayern AC Milan Ajax and Juventus are all bigger than man utd. But financially only Real and Barça are bigger
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 Жыл бұрын
🤡🤡😂😂😂
@illyaedwards7188
@illyaedwards7188 Жыл бұрын
Man United makes Real Madrid and Barca look poor, Barca are struggling to pay their players and had to let Messi go
@precious-5016
@precious-5016 Жыл бұрын
Show your kids this write up and they will think you're dumb 😃😃🌞
@leemccccccc999
@leemccccccc999 Жыл бұрын
Wow typical opinion of an African football expert what we would we do with out you lot to come up with crap that you do
@fresh.prince7472
@fresh.prince7472 Жыл бұрын
You really think Ajax and AC Milan ate bigger than Manchester United Manchester United fans would over take the city of Amsterdam
@macandmefoley3037
@macandmefoley3037 Жыл бұрын
Liverpool are the most successful club in England and as a european club far more successful than utd have ever been 😎
@CA213FAN
@CA213FAN Жыл бұрын
But even with their lack of European success, United generates more revenue every year. Liverpool will definitely catch up and overtake them in a year or two. United have invested very poorly.
@macandmefoley3037
@macandmefoley3037 Жыл бұрын
@@CA213FAN yeah utd had their biggest success when money started coming into the game Liverpool were left behind in that aspect
@marnfulda1758
@marnfulda1758 Жыл бұрын
@@macandmefoley3037 but they are catching up with a vengeance!!
@macandmefoley3037
@macandmefoley3037 Жыл бұрын
@@marnfulda1758 a vengeance?? Haven't won a trophy in 5 year's or the league in 10 year's or champions league in 13 year's 🤔😂😂😂😂😂😂
@finosuilleabhain7781
@finosuilleabhain7781 Жыл бұрын
@@macandmefoley3037 * years * years * years
@mickcardiff3044
@mickcardiff3044 Жыл бұрын
Man United's version of the 4 2 1 3 is 3 1 2 4, absolutely hopeless....
@anurag1588
@anurag1588 Жыл бұрын
SJ spitting facts, wow
@farazshahzad9650
@farazshahzad9650 Жыл бұрын
Danny calling Rabiot a good player💀. Proves that he does not watch any league outside the Prem whatsoever.
@darrellbrown633
@darrellbrown633 Жыл бұрын
rabiot is good tho you mug
@cheesybellend6842
@cheesybellend6842 Жыл бұрын
Ye I don’t rate him either tbh I think he’s nowhere near top 6 level in England
@LFCMonsters
@LFCMonsters Жыл бұрын
Rabiot is a very good player, better than most United midfielders. Prob with rabiot his attitude stink but there's certainly a player in there
@cbc899
@cbc899 Жыл бұрын
@@LFCMonsters strange how Rabiots stats are actually worse than McTominays, ball recoveries, tackles, loss of possession, pass accuracy, goals, assists and McTominay plays in a harder league. Rabiot clearly isn't that good
@yesnyamusa5543
@yesnyamusa5543 Жыл бұрын
@@cbc899 stats don’t show everything. Rabiot despite his form gets into the French team. He is like the Pickford just in a French midfield. Also he is a better player than McTominay regardless of the stats. He does more than McTominay, McTominay can’t even get on the ball lol
@ynwa73
@ynwa73 Жыл бұрын
On what basis.. Worth.. No.. Shirt sales.. No.. Trophies.. No.. Sponsorship deals.. No... According to sky sports.. Yes
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys Жыл бұрын
United only got bigger due to commercialisation of the game in the 90s. United sinking..today they look forward to Thursday night football and struggle to sign their no1 targets.
@mrdickywaters
@mrdickywaters Жыл бұрын
'' the sun dont normally write stories like that without foundation '' yeh not a great remark danny
@fresh.prince7472
@fresh.prince7472 Жыл бұрын
They usually tell the truth lol
@bombarleyrastafara5943
@bombarleyrastafara5943 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Africa most people support arsenal and man utd as well as Chelsea we don't really know anything about Liverpool specifically ethiopian eritrean sudan and uganda
@marnfulda1758
@marnfulda1758 Жыл бұрын
You will and then you will realise how much superior football you have missed by supporting once were good teams.
@randyschwaggins
@randyschwaggins Жыл бұрын
Yeah...don't think clubs are trying to capture the African consumer
@ryswa7844
@ryswa7844 Жыл бұрын
Manchester United are not bigger than Liverpool. Liverpool are not bigger than Manchester United. These are two top elite clubs that dominated for two decades respectively. Both have around the same trophies, and have global status.
@druid7734
@druid7734 Жыл бұрын
Around same trophies yes, but different global status, LFC is like a minnow compared to man United, go to any football pub. Every fuckin newspaper , every fuckin player is being linked with them
@sharingiscaring1952
@sharingiscaring1952 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what bigger means. Could me a lot of things. More fans, more money etc. It's one of those vague terms which has the goals moved every time its used.
@ryswa7844
@ryswa7844 Жыл бұрын
@@sharingiscaring1952 I don't class money as a means to judge a club. Surely its about the history and the global status
@vinhbao9738
@vinhbao9738 Жыл бұрын
@@sharingiscaring1952 In modern times, being bigger means having a larger fan base.
@jasonobrien8919
@jasonobrien8919 Жыл бұрын
Utd are by far bigger than Liverpool kid by far
@mynameisjudge4386
@mynameisjudge4386 Жыл бұрын
"Jobs for the boys" United
@SKYWalkersSG
@SKYWalkersSG Жыл бұрын
List of most valuable clubs: 1) Real Madrid - $5.1 billion 2) Barcelona - $5.1 billion 3) Manchester United - $4.6 billion 4) Liverpool - $4.45 billion 5) Bayern Munich - $4.275 billion 6) Manchester City - $4.25 billion 7) Paris Saint-Germain - $3.2 billion 8) Chelsea - $3.1 billion 9) Juventus - $2.45 billion 10) Tottenham - $2.35 billion 11) Arsenal - $2.05 billion 12) Borussia Dortmund - $1.8 billion 13) Atletico Madrid - $1.5 billion 14) AC Milan - $1.2 billion 15) Inter Milan - $1 billion 16) Everton - $940 million 17) Leicester City - $925 million 18) West Ham - $900 million 19) Leeds United - $800 million 20) Aston Villa - $750 million (source: 11 Premier League clubs land on latest top 20 global rich list By Joe Prince-Wright, 2022) At the moment, Man Utd's sipping on their brand foundation that's been built globally during the EPL era (gosh I still remember the mumblings and turmoil when the 20 clubs breakaway from First Division), from 1992 to 2013 So that 20 years of football success has brought financial success for Man Utd. Now it's been 10 years of decline, it's likely to foresee another 10 years of financial success before they exhausted that success dividend, and become a use-to-be-big club like Forest, Villa. They still have from now to 2033 to halt the decline, otherwise, it's going to a sheer drop, and it's near impossible to recover, look at Forest (45 years since last won the league) and Villa (42 years since last won the league).
@Mr_Hassell
@Mr_Hassell Жыл бұрын
The problem with this list is that most of these clubs are not traded publicly so these values are just someone's best guess.
@Djsonley
@Djsonley Жыл бұрын
United will always be more popular than basically any other club bar possibly Madrid due to the 50's and 90's. It's ingrained and the stock market doesn't show that sentiment. If they were owned by a billionaire willing to pump money in they would be number 1 overnight easily. Even in their worst time they are still top 3 which says it all basically.
@ld6433
@ld6433 Жыл бұрын
I hate it when people are like so and so are a bigger club than so and so..
@ojogbaneamedu2501
@ojogbaneamedu2501 Жыл бұрын
Simon making a silly point about debt, Man United (and English football in general) have an entirely different ownership system than in Barcelona. Barca could solve their debt problem entirely because of the value of the club, not rich owners. Barcelona have been generating more or about the same revenue as united for the last 5+ years.
@joebhoy1029
@joebhoy1029 Жыл бұрын
On the crack today are we buddy
@marvinbrando722
@marvinbrando722 Жыл бұрын
That's true. But he doesn't get it. I think he believes Barca or Real are private
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 Жыл бұрын
Utds debt is the glazers debt not the club. They bought the club on spec. Barca are in debt because they've spent more than theyve made.
@davidalexhughes
@davidalexhughes Жыл бұрын
You obviously have no idea about debt or value.
@wthwasthat8884
@wthwasthat8884 Жыл бұрын
@@russellward4624 Utds debt is the glazers debt not the club? That's not how it works. The leveraged buyout transfers the owners debt onto the asset they are buying using that debt. Utd also only reported a 31 million surplus on their balance sheet last year and their debt has gone back up to 800 million pound. Having a debt that is 25x the amount of surplus revenue is terrible. Barca actually have much more in the way of intangible assets to sell off or leverage than united do.
@danzibar5431
@danzibar5431 Жыл бұрын
How are you defining club size? Fanbase size? Recent Success? Commercial value? Player pulling power?
@CUJO3000
@CUJO3000 Жыл бұрын
It should be all of those things. Can't say you're a bigger club in you've won 5 Trophies 30 years ago but none since. Can't say you're a bigger club if you've only won 4 titles in the last 5 years but basically bottom half team or championship team the last 30 years.
@meanbean1407
@meanbean1407 Жыл бұрын
You talk like you want to name check your own City in this debate.
@danzibar5431
@danzibar5431 Жыл бұрын
@@meanbean1407 I just think its a pointless debate unless someone clearly defines a metric. “Big” is a bad way to describe clubs. Success, commercial worth, and fanbase size are all better than saying club A is bigger than club B. Unless ofc You are comparing real madrid to Wrexham
@CUJO3000
@CUJO3000 Жыл бұрын
@@danzibar5431 I still consider Man U as a big club. Man U has all of those things. Not as much as the Player pulling power. If they stay the same for 2-4 years then I would drop them from that list. Liverpool is another big club. Even if they haven't won much in the last 30 years but they've been winning the last 3-4 years.
@danzibar5431
@danzibar5431 Жыл бұрын
@@CUJO3000 utd are a big club for sure… whats pointless is squabbling over who’s bigger of the big clubs as theres no real way to tell.
@PharmacyAve
@PharmacyAve Жыл бұрын
To be honest mate Real Madrid is bigger than Man United, Barcelona and Liverpool.
@sheffsteel7
@sheffsteel7 Жыл бұрын
Prestige yes, but fanbase and commercial potential no. Real and Barca have hit their limit because the Spanish league is holding them in check. La Liga wanted to expand into the US market but playing La Liga fixtures in the US was blocked. Hence why Real and Barca are now so desperate to join a new Euro super league playing the English PL clubs. Whereas the EPL is by far the most popular and commercial league in the world.
@balajiraju4157
@balajiraju4157 Ай бұрын
​@@sheffsteel7lol....entire- latin America and most Asian countries are either fan of real madrid or barca
@sim1isagodatbuilds896
@sim1isagodatbuilds896 Жыл бұрын
Not confused, when the 1st goal goes in, all pre season goes out the window, the same players as last season revert to type which is “ don’t pass to me ,I don’t want any bad press , not my fault”
@donkiernan9407
@donkiernan9407 Жыл бұрын
Why havent u guys discussed the new foul rules - the barge in the back in Utd match is suddenly not a penalty - thats bonkers to me
@slashthe2nd
@slashthe2nd Жыл бұрын
Get over it
@wthwasthat8884
@wthwasthat8884 Жыл бұрын
@@slashthe2nd ok boomer
@alienduce6755
@alienduce6755 Жыл бұрын
Than Barcelona? Definitely not. Now Liverpool is a team that I highly respect, but who's bigger is very debatable tho.
@johnhonai4601
@johnhonai4601 Жыл бұрын
Actual order based on popularity, fan appeal : Barcelona > Man United = Chelsea > Liverpool
@sperrotta91
@sperrotta91 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhonai4601 Liverpool have more fans than Chelsea...
@alienduce6755
@alienduce6755 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhonai4601 Bruh... Liverpool is by a very big margin far bigger than Chelsea. I don't know what your parameters are, but they're bigger in history, fans, titles. That's all you need to measure it. Now Man United being bigger than Liverpool is another talk where is almost imposible to stand in just one side.
@tharcisse7103
@tharcisse7103 Жыл бұрын
Even as a Madrid fan, I know Barça are bigger than Man Utd. Barça have more trophies, more fans, more *international* nostalgia, more Ballon d'Or winners/legends of the game, a more globally famous stadium... the only thing Simon said to claim Man Utd are bigger than Barça is that Man Utd are richer and play in the Prem. By that logic, Man City are bigger than Barça. Players take a step up in their careers by moving from Man Utd to Barça, not the other way around. The legendary Brazilians and Dutch are synonymous with Barça. The last All-Time great player at Man Utd was Ronaldo and he left for Madrid to begin the greatest Clasico rivalries we've ever seen. Man Utd are just Bayern Munich with more commercial success, but less stature and social media followers than Barça.
@ASinghJ91
@ASinghJ91 Жыл бұрын
The big problem for Barcelona is … it’s a Spanish speaking club The world speaks English so that’s why manU have most fans even combine real & barca
@peopletalkuttergarbage
@peopletalkuttergarbage Жыл бұрын
trophy Bragging for a team in a two team league is pathetic...fan size is impossible to know.....so you're argument is a laughable
@manuelrodriguez2637
@manuelrodriguez2637 Жыл бұрын
@@ASinghJ91 Real & Barca are the most followed clubs in the world
@manuelrodriguez2637
@manuelrodriguez2637 Жыл бұрын
@@peopletalkuttergarbage Premier League there's Manchester City & Liverpool 🤷‍♂️
@tharcisse7103
@tharcisse7103 Жыл бұрын
@@ASinghJ91 🤨 How do Man Utd have more fans than Madrid and Barça combined? Both those clubs have more followers than Man Utd on every single social media platform. If Man Utd are on Madrid and Barça's level, why do they have such little followers? Man Utd are trying to be like Madrid. Plus Madrid and Barça operate in multiple sports and supply All-Time great players to the NBA. Luka Doncic is believed by many to be the next Lebron James and he came from Real Madrid. Man Utd are focused solely on 1 sport and they're still behind teams focused on 6/7.
@thabisomasha2560
@thabisomasha2560 Жыл бұрын
This is the most honest channel in the world. I love you guys. Facts spoken, no sides chosen.
@alexisvacilli2892
@alexisvacilli2892 Жыл бұрын
To think Man u is bigger than Barca? Looolll
@paulliddon
@paulliddon Жыл бұрын
It's only honest because Simon Jordan is on it
@davidg5305
@davidg5305 Жыл бұрын
@@alexisvacilli2892 of course they are.
@alexisvacilli2892
@alexisvacilli2892 Жыл бұрын
@@davidg5305 In terms of what?? Next joke plz
@tomquinn9887
@tomquinn9887 Жыл бұрын
Of course everywhere Danny has travelled with liverpool he has seen Liverpool fans, does he realise Liverpool fans usually wait for the players/team whenever they come? Or did he just assume they were there randomly
@peopletalkuttergarbage
@peopletalkuttergarbage Жыл бұрын
Seriously??? 🤣🤣🤣 Do you think if a football goes on holiday with his family then the fans of that country are notified? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 fan can travel without their club you know.
@tomquinn9887
@tomquinn9887 Жыл бұрын
@@peopletalkuttergarbage read my comment before wasting your time writing an essay I said with liverpool . Also in reply to your many laughing faces I give you this sir ---- 🙄 😆. I do not understand 'fan can travel without there club'. I kind of realise fans can go on holidays to destinations which there club don't go, Im just imagining sky sports news announcing 'fans are not allowed travel unless there clubs are currently in a country of which they are going' lol.
@tomquinn9887
@tomquinn9887 Жыл бұрын
@@CHAZZATBM chill out man it was only a bit of humour... the world is so serious these days. I know what he meant but he diddnt say it like that. Cool your jets 😎
@bluedwarf8858
@bluedwarf8858 Жыл бұрын
Lol so he's still a Liverpool player then is he, 🙄
@tomquinn9887
@tomquinn9887 Жыл бұрын
@@bluedwarf8858👍 👏 👏
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 Жыл бұрын
United, are BIGGER than Liverpool 'cos they have more fans? Ford, make more cars than Ferrari. I know which car manufacturer makes the BETTER car!
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 Жыл бұрын
Ford's are more reliable by a long shot
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
KFC bigger than McDonald's because they have more chickens like yourself Gary.
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 Жыл бұрын
@@andyhulme2274 I'm sure they are. I don't think Ferrari owners care all too much about reliability, though.
@randyschwaggins
@randyschwaggins Жыл бұрын
Ferrari. Owned by Fiat.
@basseysamuel108
@basseysamuel108 Жыл бұрын
Barca and Real are in a league of theirs. More UCL More league titles More ballon d'ors More prestige Both play the biggest rivalry match in world football Both are more valuable More social media follower's More legendary player's Literally every available metric united doesn't come close. English media with their usual bs 😂
@b8nnytez
@b8nnytez Жыл бұрын
It's a manufactured reality. If that Super League ever did come off they'd find out their true place. Under our heels. They have it too easy, season in season out, and they hardly won their last CL playing expansive football, did they. lol. They just got real lucky on the night. You know I'm right too. Keep believing your BS if you want, the Prem is coming for ya! edit :- " both are more valuable"????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ramseyfarrugia6292
@ramseyfarrugia6292 Жыл бұрын
@@b8nnytez you do realize madrid won 5 cl in last 8 years, or you living 50 years ahead ?
@patrick7142
@patrick7142 Жыл бұрын
@@b8nnytez so Madrid won their last 10 champions league by luck. If so why can't your English clubs win with luck too. Give credit where its due. You don't sound smart, I am sorry. Madrid beat your three top English teams last season. Have some shame 🤣🤣🤣
@alexbailey3741
@alexbailey3741 Жыл бұрын
Simon Jordan is right - toxic Vampires is a good one, but I still prefer to call them leeches. Until they are removed we will only get weaker, slowly but surely.
@b8nnytez
@b8nnytez Жыл бұрын
Nonsense. Utd will still be around, just as big and powerful long after those jokers are gone, and long after we are gone too. You're just going through a dip. It happens. Look at the past 100 plus years. When Liverpool are up there Utd are down, and vice versa. In 20 years time you'll be back up there, and we'll have a dip, in all likelihood.
@truthfully2277
@truthfully2277 Жыл бұрын
Simon is my favorite now. He’s genuinely balanced and tells the truth regardless . I’m in Africa, and Manchester United shirts dominate sports stores and United fans outnumber other fans. It’s not even close. EPL is synonymous to Manchester United atleast in Africa. I travelled throughout Africa.
@tianco.moneyhouse
@tianco.moneyhouse Жыл бұрын
Nah bru
@Redman680
@Redman680 Жыл бұрын
That's because Africa is full of shallow glory hunters, who followed Manure(Utd) cos they won most things. I don't acknowledge any of them.
@afsoc4life
@afsoc4life Жыл бұрын
Nah. Not true.
@JoJoJo20233
@JoJoJo20233 Жыл бұрын
My village is united only
@truthfully2277
@truthfully2277 Жыл бұрын
@@afsoc4life you’re an Arsenal fan or Liverpool. You guys like to minimize the obvious on your streets. Majority of transportation bases advertise MU logo on the body for free 😂
@culer
@culer Жыл бұрын
Barca and Madrid are bigger than EPL
@ze5771
@ze5771 Жыл бұрын
Real Madrid and Barcelona are by far bigger than any other clubs in the world.
@matthewm3869
@matthewm3869 Жыл бұрын
based on what metric?
@ze5771
@ze5771 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewm3869 almost every metric you can think of
@dickie8184
@dickie8184 Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't be if it wasn't a 2 team league.
@BWFCLVAREY
@BWFCLVAREY Жыл бұрын
Barca won their first European cup in 1992. Nowhere near the scale of Madrid, Milan clubs, Liverpool, Man United
@matthewm3869
@matthewm3869 Жыл бұрын
@@ze5771 what an incredibly intelligent comment that really moves the conversation forward, thanks brother
@pedropierre9594
@pedropierre9594 Жыл бұрын
Im happy United are rotting, because what can you expect when a banker runs the club?
@sysyarij1098
@sysyarij1098 Жыл бұрын
the fact that question it is dumb we all know barca and real madrid are the biggest clubs in the world (as chelsea fan) like every players in premier league dream to play for barcelona or real madrid and that's fact
@marnfulda1758
@marnfulda1758 Жыл бұрын
No
@Raktim709
@Raktim709 Жыл бұрын
@@marnfulda1758 yess
@zombievikinggaming4258
@zombievikinggaming4258 Жыл бұрын
In terms of commercial power it can be argued, but it will dwindle
@razer0072073
@razer0072073 Жыл бұрын
What's Man uniteds revenue compared to Liverpools? 🤔
@yanoyup6260
@yanoyup6260 Жыл бұрын
@@Curran.1992 no it’s not. They’re both currently in the 500 millions and many predict Liverpool will overtake them in the coming year or two.
@sammyworms
@sammyworms Жыл бұрын
Heard Alexis Sanchez terminated his contract hearing about a vacancy in Man utd...
@robertmitchell8868
@robertmitchell8868 Жыл бұрын
The best players want to play for great clubs in great cities, not cities with shitty weather and where their houses get burgled during games.
@rabiamalik7848
@rabiamalik7848 Жыл бұрын
Includes London that shitty weather and crime rates
@matthewjackson3408
@matthewjackson3408 Жыл бұрын
Liverpool bringing in nearly 600 mil a year . Man u revenue is not as good as it was .
@razer0072073
@razer0072073 Жыл бұрын
Plus that 500m debt that's only rising is gonna hold them back
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
Plus Liverpool got LeBron James
@neutralfan..1627
@neutralfan..1627 Жыл бұрын
@@razer0072073 Liverpool are also in debt.. Over 200million..
@spark556
@spark556 Жыл бұрын
Liverpool is bigger because they have more trophies & UCLs but United is more popular.
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 Жыл бұрын
Think you might find they are equal on trophies, but Utd have 13 prem leagues to liverpools 1, until Liverpool win a few more prems they will always be behind Utd!
@nathansellars3757
@nathansellars3757 Жыл бұрын
20-19 is all that counts
@Doublebackflip11
@Doublebackflip11 Жыл бұрын
@@polaris7122 no there not. We’re like one or two ahead
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 Жыл бұрын
@@Doublebackflip11 Manchester United have 66 major top class trophies and Liverpool have 65.
@fearlessformidableferociou8623
@fearlessformidableferociou8623 7 ай бұрын
How does one define a big club, and what is it's significance ?
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 Жыл бұрын
Liverpool, have had a succession of successful managers. Shankly, Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish, Houllier, Benitez, Klopp. United, have had...Busby and Ferguson!
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 Жыл бұрын
Successful managers, how many prems have these successful managers won???
@tianco.moneyhouse
@tianco.moneyhouse Жыл бұрын
Exactly, in 1990 Liverpool had 18 league titles, the closest to them was Arsenal with 8 and Man Utd with 7. Man Utd then won 13 league titles in 20 years which is an incredible achievement in itself but that doesn't make them bigger all of a sudden, because in our 30 year dry spell, we were still relevant and won major trophies.
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 Жыл бұрын
@@polaris7122 How many titles had United won BEFORE '93? Titles DID exist BEFORE '93, Paul...something United fans dust under the carpet!
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 Жыл бұрын
@@garywallace5602 you can wallow in the past all you like, Preston North End and Bradford used to win the first division, can't see them winning the prem, can you????
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 Жыл бұрын
@@polaris7122 Wallowing in the past? What, like you? Liverpool, last won title in 2020. When did United last win title, again? 🤔
@hellalive8973
@hellalive8973 Жыл бұрын
That’s a really difficult question. Man U are one of the 3 giants of world football when it comes to capacity to generate revenue, global brand, international fan base and marketability. Liverpool can’t top that. Currently, Liverpool are the more successful, can attract the bigger names and are the more appealing club. Overall I’d have to say United are the bigger club though. If it stays as it is for the next decade then it may shift as Liverpool are the only club in England that can rival them in terms of global appeal. City and Chelsea may have more money but they don’t have the same gravitas as the 2 giants of English football.
@noww4tyrf588
@noww4tyrf588 Жыл бұрын
You are right
@Ashley-xj8cm
@Ashley-xj8cm Жыл бұрын
This is the problem Man U are in the past and ppl like u think 15 back. Newcastle will also overtake Man U soon.
@hellalive8973
@hellalive8973 Жыл бұрын
@@Ashley-xj8cm I’m a Liverpool fan you plum 🤣 Money can’t buy history, identity and global appeal ask City
@Ashley-xj8cm
@Ashley-xj8cm Жыл бұрын
@@hellalive8973 your a Liverpool fan eh. Ok u won 1 title in 30 years pal so history speaks for itself. Before u stick your conk in think first. Bet u dnt even live in Liverpool or been to a match 🤫. U complete tool 🤣😂🤣
@colingeddes2172
@colingeddes2172 Жыл бұрын
Spot on. I dont support either team, they r the 2 biggest clubs in english football, all things considered, man utd r the bigger club overall.
@culeforever5408
@culeforever5408 Жыл бұрын
Right now ,liverpool are little below utd considering historical success. But the way utd is being run ,liverpool will soon surpass them.
@madlfcdc5890
@madlfcdc5890 Жыл бұрын
What? You need to do your research. Liverpool are AHEAD of United in trophies won by a couple of trophies. Don't even think of including the Community Shield in that list.
@polaris7122
@polaris7122 Жыл бұрын
@@madlfcdc5890 but the community shield is included in the list, has to be! Think they are level on trophies, expect liverpool to go ahead this season!
@precious-5016
@precious-5016 Жыл бұрын
Being big is not really about trophies 😃😃😃... Good or bad, United is always in the news because you don't sale without the water
@markdoherty8161
@markdoherty8161 Жыл бұрын
It's a bit of a petty argument of my club is bigger than your club. One thing is clear though and that is Man United have always been the media's darlings even if they do get some criticism. Klopp made comments a few years back questioning where United get their money from. Obviously knowing that they are a massive club but any club will struggle if they are not competing in the biggest competitions. A journalist joked years ago that if an investigation on United was done that it would be very interesting and jokes them being a State-owned club. They became successful at the right time when the proper big money came into the game with Sky. I've always found a large portion of their fan base to be casual fans. It's almost fashionable to support United and we're seeing the same thing with City. Always thought that Manchester in general has a lot of strings pulled in its favour. Liverpool on the other hand are one of the world's elite clubs and in my experience have more genuine fans. Everyone knows that there is a lot of hate towards Liverpool and the media has a big part to play in that. Rival fans will point to other events obviously. Having a few ex-Liverpool players in punditry doesn't hide the hatred towards the club. Who's bigger? Both are huge clubs so it's kind of irrelevant. Many things can easily be manipulated. For me Liverpool fan I look at things like - ANFIELD KOP END THE FLAGS, SONGS AND ATMOSPHERE ON BIG EUROPEAN NIGHTS. Check out Talksport, Sky Sports, any UK news papers or the Internet in general and you'll see how they try to sell Man United to the public. All the main stories, whether good or bad, will have United in the headline most of the time. I don't think any club has pumped anywhere near the money as that club in trying to sell itself. I heard many people refer to them as PR-CHESTER UNITED which kind of hits the nail on the head.
@raphaelnasser7084
@raphaelnasser7084 Жыл бұрын
once your that big it doesn't really matter whos bigger because you're all big enough, it becomes about who is better. if I'm nit-picking id argue that utd and barca are a bit bigger than pool but it doesn't really matter because pool are better
@benjiharper1866
@benjiharper1866 Жыл бұрын
Danny Murphy saying Rabiot is a good player 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@steerj07
@steerj07 Жыл бұрын
Knows more than you fella.
@benjiharper1866
@benjiharper1866 Жыл бұрын
@@steerj07 just cause he played professionally doesn’t mean he knows what he’s on about… this is the case for many ex pros.
@naf2038
@naf2038 Жыл бұрын
@@benjiharper1866 No it doesn't, but Murphy does know what he's talking about mate! Are you new to this channel?
@El_terrible1985
@El_terrible1985 Жыл бұрын
@Every Little Thing you think he can play for psg, Juventus, France without being good. It’s his attitude that’s the problem not his football
@finosuilleabhain7781
@finosuilleabhain7781 Жыл бұрын
@Every Little Thing We'd settle for that.
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification Жыл бұрын
Manchester United have always used Liverpool as the yard stick by which they measure success. SAF made a career out of it. It still happens to this day. End of story.
@nishidkhode8604
@nishidkhode8604 Жыл бұрын
Yep that's why I want to get no 20 since they'll have no comparison left
@phillimath7
@phillimath7 Жыл бұрын
If it's bigger in terms of success, the answer is a resounding no.
@irieite9666
@irieite9666 Жыл бұрын
That doesn't matter anymore smdh. They should just call it cashball and not even bother playing matches anymore.
@TheShashwatt
@TheShashwatt Жыл бұрын
No sound?
@matthewjackson3408
@matthewjackson3408 Жыл бұрын
Bigger than Liverpool . Liverpool have caught up with them now and gone past them on and off the pitch
@Alloyd876
@Alloyd876 Жыл бұрын
Bruh I've gone places where people didn't even know football but knew man Utd. Liverpool ain't even close
@SANOR_11
@SANOR_11 Жыл бұрын
@@Alloyd876more popularity dosent mean they are bigger, trophies & records do
@etonstrawn9733
@etonstrawn9733 Жыл бұрын
@@Alloyd876 I've gone places where people didn't know Utd but knew Liverpool
@naf2038
@naf2038 Жыл бұрын
@@etonstrawn9733 Where was that? Mars?
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 Жыл бұрын
😂🤡
@richardclarke1759
@richardclarke1759 Жыл бұрын
I'm a man United fan....but I have to say Liverpool are the bigger club right now.....United threw it away
@sanket541
@sanket541 Жыл бұрын
Lol you are not a united fan 😅
@KalJ95
@KalJ95 Жыл бұрын
Jim's point about United signing Lewandowski is exactly why United fans are frustrated. They're big names, but nearing the end of their careers. Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Falcao, Ronaldo. Simon is spot on, we want the Glazers gone. It's all for commercial purposes, not for the benefit of the team.
@leviathon18
@leviathon18 Жыл бұрын
So this season is only about "Whats going on at Utd?" whats been going on at utd for 10 years now though? lol
@willhitchcock6227
@willhitchcock6227 Жыл бұрын
United will be fine. Still highly valued club market cap wise. Matter of time before they get it right.
@bywyjimma
@bywyjimma Жыл бұрын
Not really
@civildiscourse7626
@civildiscourse7626 Жыл бұрын
Man Utd will be bigger for a while because they dominated football from the beginning of the commercial era but… if Liverpool continue to succeed and united are the opposite then surely it’s only a matter of time before the Liverpool brand takes over
@lilamendez10
@lilamendez10 Жыл бұрын
Simon Jordan needs to look at the training facilities which haven't been upgraded in 15 years and Old Trafford is falling apart, they've hired the worst people to run the club. Then tell the fans how the Glazers are great owners
@andrewmitchison4571
@andrewmitchison4571 Жыл бұрын
I hope one day my club newcastle can be as big as man utd. Regardless of were they are now there still a massive club, massive resources, massive fan base.
@adampickford6405
@adampickford6405 Жыл бұрын
Never
@gdo3510
@gdo3510 Жыл бұрын
You’ll always be in an undesirable location to live compared to your biggest rivals, and that includes man city. Definitely can see Newcastle having great runs of success like the 90s though. They are a big club with a passionate fanbase and name recognition. Just can’t see them ever being to there at the very top.
@marnfulda1758
@marnfulda1758 Жыл бұрын
Yes they may become as big as man utd but they will have to go a lot further to become as big as LIVERPOOL.
@sprinter1832
@sprinter1832 Жыл бұрын
Andrew Mitchison How many Trophies you got?? and don't count the InterToto Cup, that competition was cancelled, because of lack of interest, and Noocastle were awarded the Trophy! PMSL!🥴😵😭
@andrewmitchison4571
@andrewmitchison4571 Жыл бұрын
@@sprinter1832 I was referring to man UTD when I said massive club , resources and fanbase and and hopefully my club can have half the success you have enjoyed the last 30 years
@Damiculture
@Damiculture Жыл бұрын
7:36 Thank you Mr Simon - Someone who's actually travelled the world. 30% waffle from Jim & Danny.
@gregordrizzlewing7339
@gregordrizzlewing7339 Жыл бұрын
From when he said good player I was done 😂
@martussfrank3903
@martussfrank3903 Жыл бұрын
The fact this is even a discussion means there is very little between the clubs. I will use one stat myself. Man Utd versus Melbourne at the MCG in July 2022: 74,000. Liverpool versus Melbourne at the MCG in July 2013 pre Klopp: 95000. Liverpool sold out a 95,000 seater in less than an hour. Man Utd couldn't give the tickets away. You can google the attendances yourselves.
@michaelcorleonejr
@michaelcorleonejr Жыл бұрын
Real Madrid, Barcelona are definitely bigger than Man Utd you could also argue maybe Bayern Munich? and Liverpool is debatable they do have 6 CL titles compared to Man Utd's 3
@philip013
@philip013 Жыл бұрын
None of those clubs are as big as West Ham. We're massive.
@jasonobrien8919
@jasonobrien8919 Жыл бұрын
None of 5he above are lad. The only thing fucking utd up ate their clueless owners facts .
@beverleydobson5648
@beverleydobson5648 3 ай бұрын
@@philip013 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@stuartsimister5042
@stuartsimister5042 Жыл бұрын
What happened to that banner in the Stretford end laughing at city's lack of success. 🤣👌
@TwoBeatsApart
@TwoBeatsApart Жыл бұрын
In the 14 countries that I have been privileged enough to visit, I have to say that it’s Man Utd I’ve seen the most support for across the board. A lot of Barcelona out there too.
@yabobaggings1407
@yabobaggings1407 Жыл бұрын
You must be joking, liverpool are massive around the glove
@icariusnegus6560
@icariusnegus6560 Жыл бұрын
Go on social media n compare. Unless the man utd fans are all old people
@chewdafat4121
@chewdafat4121 Жыл бұрын
Bollix it's United and its not close.
@marvinbrando722
@marvinbrando722 Жыл бұрын
Here it is the problem. Man United as a Big club, needs to keep winning. Otherwise they will be a shadow of themselves. Fans overseas, like the winning teams. That's it
@mimshack7278
@mimshack7278 Жыл бұрын
Barcelona has the most support world wide . 2nd Liverpool 3. real Madrid
@andreyrunovchik2020
@andreyrunovchik2020 Жыл бұрын
Liverpool is bigger because what matters are trophies they have more trophies and higher qualities trophies. Real Madrid is biggest club though with 14 Cls
@TheRagdollrejects
@TheRagdollrejects Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s not how it works. The question is “bigger” not “won more” and thats typically when Liverpool fans start counting trophies that aren’t in the top three. It’s the League, FA Cup & European cup. Which is 35 for United and 33 for Liverpool. If you want to count league cups and European super cups etc it’s utterly pointless. It’s like counting the charity shield. Uniteds global fanbase is miles bigger than Liverpool’s. It’s taken a decade of United being run into the ground and Liverpool to be successful and get to 3 CL finals for Liverpool to merely match Uniteds turnover. Replace the Glazers with literally any other club owner outside Mike Ashley and the league will only be won by United & City for at least a decade as without the leaches United could’ve splashed £1.5bn extra on players and facilities from their own generated revenue alone nevermind the idea of outside investment. You’d have to replace liverpools owners with oil billionaires for them to have the same impact. That’s what the “size” of a club is. If run at it’s genuine peak. Where would it be? The answer for a Liverpool is “very successful” the answer for United is “dominant”. Things keep going the way they are Liverpool will definitely overtake over time though.
@boyisamusiqke2627
@boyisamusiqke2627 Жыл бұрын
Manu United is a small team that lost his glory you can't compare it with Liverpool.Liverpool has won major trophies recently.I think Brighton at the moment is a bigger than Manu United 😜😜
@junaidakhtarkhan2115
@junaidakhtarkhan2115 Жыл бұрын
Yeah.. Yeah.. We can't compare United to Liverpool.. Liverpool has 1PL trophy in 30 years.. Chill man..
@marnfulda1758
@marnfulda1758 Жыл бұрын
@@junaidakhtarkhan2115 and 6 European cups. Man utd still can't match Liverpool's trophy haul! Do the research.
@marnfulda1758
@marnfulda1758 Жыл бұрын
By the way utd not won the league for nearly TEN YEARS and counting.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@conner1665
@conner1665 Жыл бұрын
The Sun writing stories without sources? Noooo neverrr 🙃
@CeasarJames
@CeasarJames Жыл бұрын
Seriously I often wonder what would of happened if Simon Entered politics. Profusely clever and switched on 👏
@CeasarJames
@CeasarJames Жыл бұрын
@Forward To The Past by no means is he broke 😂
@cianog
@cianog Жыл бұрын
Things change over time. AC Milan were bigger in the 90's but not anymore.
@mfjosh6422
@mfjosh6422 Жыл бұрын
As a milan fan it’s true, but we’re slowly climbing back up. Our problem was our management as Silvio didn’t have anymore money to spend…What’s United excuse? 🤣
@Murdocke89
@Murdocke89 Жыл бұрын
@@mfjosh6422 AC Milan are still a huge team to me. Juve, AC, Inter, Napoli, Roma, Lazio will always be the biggest clubs in Italy in my opinion. Obviously teams come and go but those are the historically big clubs I always think of when looking at Italy, florentina, Genoa etc not far behind.
@kc13832
@kc13832 Жыл бұрын
No, Juve is the biggest Italian club.
@mfjosh6422
@mfjosh6422 Жыл бұрын
@@kc13832 you heard the man, it’s AC
@kc13832
@kc13832 Жыл бұрын
@@mfjosh6422 No, it's not,they have like 16 more leagues than Milan, just because AC did well in Europe while being pumped by Juve consistently for around 5 decades, doesn't make Milan bigger.
@marin5792
@marin5792 Жыл бұрын
Barca and RM are bigger than any English club lol
@markant9534
@markant9534 Жыл бұрын
Utd have more fans and the prem is viewed by more fans than any other league.
@marin5792
@marin5792 Жыл бұрын
@@markant9534 United don't have more fans than Barca or Madrid, it's just this way in the English media because the media is English😂
@randyschwaggins
@randyschwaggins Жыл бұрын
Barca are so big they can't even afford to pay DeJong the salary they owe him...🤣
@Raktim709
@Raktim709 Жыл бұрын
@@randyschwaggins comparing a socio owned club to a club owned by billionaire 😂
@randyschwaggins
@randyschwaggins Жыл бұрын
@@Raktim709 wtf am I comparing? Muppet
@johnstone5055
@johnstone5055 Жыл бұрын
Man Utd need to just line up all their players and give them all a slap ! Start with that and if anyone gets lipy slap them again.
@jpk2742
@jpk2742 Жыл бұрын
Man U are the biggest club in the world easy.
@LegendNinja41
@LegendNinja41 Жыл бұрын
Manchester united can have the title of the biggest club, as long as we continue to win real titles while they are in the mud.
@mister3566
@mister3566 Жыл бұрын
Well you better hope you do cos you're still playing catch up kid
@jasonobrien8919
@jasonobrien8919 Жыл бұрын
Yee win one in 32 years congrats ya clown.
@mister3566
@mister3566 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonobrien8919 Been supporters since 2021 the idiots
@lfcfacupglory3111
@lfcfacupglory3111 Жыл бұрын
​@@jasonobrien8919 you lot took 40 years to win a league back to the europa league you go ye manc
@jasonobrien8919
@jasonobrien8919 Жыл бұрын
@@lfcfacupglory3111 yee spent alot more time in the eurooa than us ya scouse clown.
@adesanyasnipple5338
@adesanyasnipple5338 Жыл бұрын
Liverpool have had spells of dominating Europe throughout their history. United simply don’t ?
@jamiiiedee3196
@jamiiiedee3196 Жыл бұрын
Alright so ?
@andyhulme2274
@andyhulme2274 Жыл бұрын
Europe is not English league is it
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys Жыл бұрын
​@@jamiiiedee3196 it's fact.
@adesanyasnipple5338
@adesanyasnipple5338 Жыл бұрын
@@jamiiiedee3196 so how can they be the biggest club in an area they’ve never been dominant? Defies logic
@rambo1872
@rambo1872 Жыл бұрын
Because Ferguson couldn’t bully European refs
@plato2030
@plato2030 Жыл бұрын
Reminds of children. my toy car is “bigger” than yours.
@neilg6675
@neilg6675 Жыл бұрын
Of course. Liverpool is closest, only have to see preseasons to see how barca and real struggle to sell out grounds outside of South America
@raxj8257
@raxj8257 Жыл бұрын
Barcelona are bigger than Liverpool and Man Utd. Don't be stupid.
@kaypakaipa8559
@kaypakaipa8559 Жыл бұрын
No they aint, thats a lie, Liverpool has won more league titles, cups, and European cups than Barca. Barcelona is only bigger in terms of revenue and maybe fanbase
@Johndoe-gf7eu
@Johndoe-gf7eu Жыл бұрын
Barcelona is the smallest club in europe dont make me laugh
@adampickford6405
@adampickford6405 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Going to take a few more years at the current level for them not to be.
@anthonybrookes1658
@anthonybrookes1658 Жыл бұрын
The players are fed up with Ronaldo and we are fed up with the players so get them all out
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 Жыл бұрын
Historically, United have NEVER been bigger than Liverpool. Bigger fan base, true. Trophies are what club's are judged on though.
@footychat3992
@footychat3992 Жыл бұрын
So in the mid 90s to early 2010s United weren't bigger than Liverpool? Behave yourself lad.
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 Жыл бұрын
@@footychat3992 Liverpool, were STILL, and STILL are ahead in trophies...lad!
@chrisprud7688
@chrisprud7688 Жыл бұрын
Behave you knob
@roamey
@roamey Жыл бұрын
@@garywallace5602 1 premier league 😂😂😂
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 Жыл бұрын
@@roamey 6 x Champions League. Where were United during the 70s and 80s...AWOL?
@jakeharrison7196
@jakeharrison7196 Жыл бұрын
There’s no coincidence that uniteds decline started when the glazers took over, they’ve employed bankers to run a football club and now it’s a disaster on the pitch
@JamesG89
@JamesG89 Жыл бұрын
The decline didn't happen when they took over, They won 5 Premier league's 1 champions league and 2 CL finals in the next 9 years. It happened when Fergie left and the replacements weren't up to task.
@fezzy5591
@fezzy5591 Жыл бұрын
Should've got Jose in 2013 while still in his prime
@jakeharrison7196
@jakeharrison7196 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesG89 Fergie barely kept it together during that time, did you see the state of the team when he left? Yes SAF kept us challenging but the rot had started to set in behind the scenes
@paulpurves484
@paulpurves484 Жыл бұрын
Disagree it actually coincided with fergie leaving
@samwize28
@samwize28 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesG89 so basically, it happened as soon as the glazers had to start making decisions and have input themselves? So basically, the decline did indeed happen with them.
@justlooking1087
@justlooking1087 Жыл бұрын
United are just different. I’ve lived in 3 countries and multiple states, counties and parishes. Wherever you go, there are always more United fans than any other English team. Arsenal have a huge international fan base as well.
@jakecook4816
@jakecook4816 Жыл бұрын
Similar situation for me. But I’d say Barcelona are bigger worldwide. United by far biggest in England, though.
@kaypakaipa8559
@kaypakaipa8559 Жыл бұрын
@Danny Tallmage made the 3rd world has almost 60-80% of global population. Asia and Africa are huge in population, thats where the bulk of football Fans are
@justlooking1087
@justlooking1087 Жыл бұрын
@@jakecook4816 Yeah for sure Barca and Real are two of the biggest but United are right up there with them.
@justlooking1087
@justlooking1087 Жыл бұрын
@Danny Tallmage International fans definitely matter, especially when you’re talking about how big a club is on a global scale. Calm down bud
@justlooking1087
@justlooking1087 Жыл бұрын
@Danny Tallmage Well then be quiet ya dummy. And I live in Manchester
@jonathankennedy1715
@jonathankennedy1715 Жыл бұрын
United are the easiest team to play against. They don't press give you lots of time to play around them. Sometimes they even help you and give you the ball.
@gamingwithjack3520
@gamingwithjack3520 Жыл бұрын
10:16 Simon's cheeky fart 😂
@terubukmasin5239
@terubukmasin5239 Жыл бұрын
The trophy cabinet says the opposite Simon. Liverpool is by far bigger club than MUnyet
@cvmgaming568
@cvmgaming568 Жыл бұрын
Depends on how big the fanbase is isnt it
@KINGKING10109
@KINGKING10109 Жыл бұрын
Barcelona are the most well supported club in 3 continents T’s for sure, Europe, South America & North America, probably in Asia too.
@cvmgaming568
@cvmgaming568 Жыл бұрын
@@KINGKING10109 i think utd are bigger in asia and Australia. Its about total fanbase though but them numbers are so hard to know cus like nobody came to ask me who tf i supported haha. So the numbers will never be right
@KINGKING10109
@KINGKING10109 Жыл бұрын
@@cvmgaming568 Asia is a difficult one to quantify as it makes up 60% of the world population alone. Japan is Barcelona, India is probably dominated by Utd, Australia liverpool, Chelsea’s the most popular English team in China but Barcelona overall, Indonesia -Man Utd. I’m pretty Sure Korea now supports Spurs over Man Utd due to Hueng min son overtaking park hi sung lol
@rohithraman6488
@rohithraman6488 Жыл бұрын
If it's just about fanbase then you're deluded
@cvmgaming568
@cvmgaming568 Жыл бұрын
@@rohithraman6488 it literally has to do with fanbase cus all the clubs are all big in terms of trophy collection. A few trophies here and there doesnt account for stadium size history tragedy and the main one FANBASE. your a gobshite
@mrfacts6860
@mrfacts6860 Жыл бұрын
Barcelona is the greatest football club for last 2 decades
@nadaduo1765
@nadaduo1765 Жыл бұрын
it's not, it's the greatest football team of the last 2 decades, big difference between team & club
@keithobrien4370
@keithobrien4370 Жыл бұрын
They will have to perform in order for Ronaldo to leave , they can't argue with being 2-0 down before Ronaldo came on. So using it as an excuse for not performing is ridiculous.
@donnietobasco9791
@donnietobasco9791 Жыл бұрын
A football club's ability to project its appeal and popularity far beyond it's own parochial boundaries has always been a fascinating thing to me. I support Liverpool because I was born in Liverpool and have always lived in Liverpool. I live in an area where lots of LFC staff, managers and players also live whilst they're contracted to the club. I'm quite certain that there exist many Manchester United counterparts. People who were born in Manchester and have always lived there etc. They too, must get to experience what I experience. Namely....they support a football club that represents their "home" city. The place where they were born, the place where they continue to live. People who support either Liverpool or United, but were born in, and reside in....locations which may be tens of thousands of miles away from these respective Cities are a real curiosity to me, I have to be honest. I wonder how on earth they get to establish a fervent bond to club with whom they share no personal (or logical) provenance whatsoever? Who's got the "most" of these kinds of supporters....is....I guess.....the question in hand here? Which club's global outreach affords them the bigger revenue stream from their respective merchandising departments? Speaking as parochial supporter, I guess we don't really care to be brutally honest. It's great to have the money the global fan-base provides, and if that money actually dictated spending power we'd likely be far more concerned about winning the "outreach" war.....but if monitoring Manchester United has taught Liverpool anything...it's taught us that being serial "winners" is the best way to push outreach into global markets. I hate to say it, but the global marketplace are basically viewed as "glory hunters" by parochial supporters. Kids like to associate themselves with winning clubs and winning is what puts a club "on trend" in global markets. Manchester United's halcyon days look to have stalled somewhat. This is bound to put pressure on their ability to accrue fresh support in foreign markets. It's going to be interesting to see how this develops.
@leafcomedy1541
@leafcomedy1541 Жыл бұрын
The glazers have never spent a penny of their own money EVER. Even when they bought the club, it was never with their own money. Other owners put their own money in (from their own wallet). The glazers buy players with money the club has generated to create "fake value". When a club is valuated, things like player contracts/transfer fees come into play (ie - add to the overall club value). So the glazers do this to get a higher price when they sell shares etc. The money from sold shares etc goes into their pocket (not invested back into the club OR not even to pay off the debt that enabled them to create those shares in the 1st place). So in a roundabout way, the billion spent on players has gone to the Glazers. This is why they don't spend proper money on the actual club (stadium, training ground, recruitment staff etc etc), because they can't "roundabout" those funds into their own pockets. This is also why United can't recover from 'bad transfer buys" and teams like City & Chelsea can. It is now forbidden by the FA for any owner to purchase a club the way the Glazers did, because it ultimately 'sooner or later' cripples the club.
@jimmyrich4675
@jimmyrich4675 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what Ron Noades did to BFC in the 90s utter scum asset stripping football clubs whatever the division there in. System is open to corruption of this kind and needs protective measures on club ownership!!!!!
@pizzagateisreal
@pizzagateisreal Жыл бұрын
We are considerably bigger than Liverpool but we're certainly not better
@busterbrown6017
@busterbrown6017 Жыл бұрын
In answer to the Question, yes.
@seb1554
@seb1554 Жыл бұрын
Utd have the most fans but I don’t think you can call us the biggest when players don’t ever want to come to us and our owners won’t spend big on transfers
@batofkrypton9765
@batofkrypton9765 Жыл бұрын
Real Madrid and barca have more if not the same
@yoshisdaddy
@yoshisdaddy Жыл бұрын
But they do spend big...
@alexanderdesouza1609
@alexanderdesouza1609 Жыл бұрын
Real and Barcelona don’t need champions league football to attract players. Ronaldinho chose Barcelona when they didn’t qualify for champions league over United. Ronaldo left United for a declining Real who got annihilated by Liverpool in 2009.
@illyaedwards7188
@illyaedwards7188 Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderdesouza1609 that's because La Liga is only a two team league and Real and Barca get all the money in that league, so there's no danger of them being outside of the Champions League
@ojogbaneamedu2501
@ojogbaneamedu2501 Жыл бұрын
@@illyaedwards7188 Atletico Madrid have won the same amount of league titles in the last decade as United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs put together.
@paulsilver7671
@paulsilver7671 Жыл бұрын
I remember these conversations happening with Liverpool and that’s gone away because they appointed one of the best coaches in the world we just need a good top quality coach and this will disappear like it had with Liverpool
@taylorrusso5290
@taylorrusso5290 Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA That's so untrue. Liverpool has excellent recruitment by FSG as well as Klopp. Klopp didn't ask for Firmino, Nunez, Jota, Salah, Mane, Robertson, etc. etc. Liverpool's scouting dept did that. And our owners are the ones who facilitated it. You had Mourinho, LVG, and Ten Hag. Clearly, manager isn't the issue.
@zeusinvestigations3334
@zeusinvestigations3334 Жыл бұрын
how many managers do you need to find the one you want though? utd have had more managers in 1 year than Liverpool have had in 10 years lol
@paulsilver7671
@paulsilver7671 Жыл бұрын
@@zeusinvestigations3334 short memories you Liverpool fans but I suppose yous didn’t know who the club was before 2018 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️
@zeusinvestigations3334
@zeusinvestigations3334 Жыл бұрын
@@paulsilver7671 remember before 2019? firstly I'm a Scouser so know both club history very well!
@epec20
@epec20 Жыл бұрын
Not anymore, far far from it. You're a big club if top players want to come and play for your club. They can't even get a top manager, or even middle-of-the-road the road players. Nothing changes either until the Glazers go.
@tyhopping5058
@tyhopping5058 Жыл бұрын
Barca was in financial trouble because la liga rules are so much more strict than the prem
@wtfamiactuallyright1823
@wtfamiactuallyright1823 Жыл бұрын
No, they're in trouble because they're run by bigger morons than Man Utd have. 😑
@seanstrangeway457
@seanstrangeway457 Жыл бұрын
The prem has no FFP rules so not even a fair comparison.
@user-zq9eg8zh6v
@user-zq9eg8zh6v Жыл бұрын
Prem is embarrassing money league. Small clubs
@delby66
@delby66 Жыл бұрын
Yet the sneaky bastards get away with it. If a club is 500-600 million in debt, how can they sign those 3 players on time, so that they can play when la liga starts. There are more loopholes in that leagues financial fair play rules, than there are holes in a fishing net. Barca and Real Madrid get away with murder in that league. How can the rest of the clubs in Spain, compete with a rigged system?
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