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Enjoyed the video alot! The conversation is off to a rocky start when they define strong independent women as someone who has high earning power or holding a high position. It's a very restrictive definition. Beyond this, a strong independent lady can be someone who is fighting cancer or someone who has to look after all the elderly in a household or someone who has to mother a special needs child. Given that, why would men be afraid of dating strong independent women? And even if we stick to the restrictive definition, pretty sure many local men who are confident themselves don't mind marrying up because strong independent women will only complement and supplement us. And vice versa, we men will complement and supplement the strong independent ladies in other attributes and domains of life. SG men aren't that bad afterall. Fortunately, the perspectives shared in the video remain balanced.The question then should be directed at the women whether they are ok to date men whom they deem are lesser than them financially or in socioeconomic status (though I have to reiterate that success is not solely defined by $$). On a personal note, i really dont care whether the lady earns alot more than me. That means i am of a certain calibre to be valued that strong independent woman and i can have a more relaxed life living with her.

Wow, the crowd in here is brutal. Sonia and Chow are strong independent people. I think their partners and friends can appreciate how they're able to get their life together without measuring their worth by their relationships. It is nice to have a partner who can navigate life and its various administrative currents well. The experiences and wisdom they bring into their relationships, romantic or platonic, will have depth. The folks who are antagonising them over their looks or social media profiles must be really insecure if you need to roast people to feel better about yourselves just because they are doing well at their roles as entertainers. You don't know them outside of their jobs and online personas. Picking on them is just low.

John is that old soul friend who's full of wisdom

As a man myself, the biggest fear we have when dating a woman who makes more than us or is an 'independent woman' is that they'll leave us because they don't think we are up to their standards of being able to take care of them.

Loved this podcast!! I think y'all need to edit the guest info and socials on the description. It's Chow and John lol

I too am curious about being in a relationship with someone who is alot more financially independent than me, or the same level. I consider myself lucky to have a good salary job without any liability especially when my parents are richer than me. I wonder how it feels to be with someone where decisions/surprises/trips/activities can be made without much thought about the cost (of course i am not talking about tens of thousands of spending everytime) =)

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I wish John is my friend. So damn wise!!!!!!! Ps: Met you once in ntu ultimate, but you probably don't remember me

Tbh, Don't really care if she earns more than me. Rather stan a Queen to hold the castle down with, Than a princess who just sing songs with this knee or that knee...

why don't john and chow just date each other? they've got such strong friendship as foundation for a good relationship

my personal view & experience - men want an independent woman until they realise they can't handle them

Chow looks very nice in this dress

Weird. Shouldn't that make you feel good about yourself? If a strong independent woman doesn't need you - but wants you in her life for no other reason than you being you. Don't get why that would be unattractive to men...

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the thing with chow is this... what she mentioned about what they want in a relationship first off... she doesnt want children! she said she not good with children... doesnt want to go thru it etc... tho she might allow it if the man was willing to be the stay at home daddy... a surrogate mother etc... but who knows only she can tell u... but she is a damn strong independent woman either way! but i think i know how her mind thinks based on what she said on the tsl eatbook and zula channels ... but i also thing she dated younger men cuz of that reason also... not many men want a woman who dont want a family in the long run!

Man what is with the comment section 😅😅😅

Strong independent women fail to realize that the type of hyper masculine men they want, dont exist in abundance. And even if they find that one unicorn, he wants a highly feminine woman and not a strong independent one. 😅

women who work and pay their own bills, are just average adults...... think about it lol

Are Men Afraid to Date An Independent Woman?

14:05 they dont marry you bcos u exude the vibe "i dont need a man"

Independent women ??????? Men wont even date a dependent woman anymore ........ no more dating women

20:36 good question john. John is saying strong independent women do not know what they want. They are clueless and not visionaries. Short sightedness in fact

Independent women and hustler men are the same thing, just mid- above average guys/ girls who want most attractive partner but couldn't so they just focus on themselves.

Unpleasant and rude people are often branded as strong and independent. "independent" because no one wants to be around obnoxious personalities. "Strong" because they are often self centered. These type of personalities are great for ambitious high achievers.

I like how clarityco takes in anecdotal accounts of non professional experts to give important life advice. So much clarity in that. 😂

The premise of the question says it all. Why would a guy want to date a "Strong and independent" women? If a woman is strong and independent, she does not need a man to date her. 🤣

16:32 how do u say u dont need external validation when ur whole social media life is about getting men's attention. See bikini pics, gym attires and what nots 😂

34:59 what is wrong with wanting a hot woman? That is shallow john? Seriously? So a woman who wants a successful man is shallow? Make it make sense. 😂

Nobody says “stuff like that” as much as Sonia, often adds no value to a sentence.

Strong, independent woman - But independent of what? Independent of men. So if you don’t need to depend on a man, why would a man want to date you? Essentially, the independent woman have become the man they want to marry.

Sugar daddy = anonymous acccounts How convenient. It's just troll accounts and not even real sugar daddy. Don't flatter yourself.

26:36 sonia finding her next career move. Question is why is ur bf not supporting u financially? Why does he not want to bail u out financially or at least assist u somehow?

everyone is talking about "partnership" or "communication" when it comes to building a long term relationship, but if she's decently attractive she will more likely to see most men have no values So a unicorn is basically an "inter"dependent person, it's very hard to find that kind of female a cording to today culture