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ARE MICHELIN PS4 WORTH THE MONEY? | Michelin Pilot Sport 4s Review | Long Term Test

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Joe Talks Cars

Joe Talks Cars

Күн бұрын

In this video I am talking all things tyres, all things Michelin PS4s tyres, are they any good? Do you need to fit N rated tyres to your Porsche and above all, are they worth the money?
I have had the car on these tyres for a while now and felt it was a good time to update you all on how well or not these PS4S tyres have lasted, What the grip is like in sunny dry weather but also rain.
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@salami99
@salami99 Жыл бұрын
Honestly exactly a video i wanted to see.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Glad it was:) I just try to think what i would want to see as a prospective buyer or a current owner:)
@niallcassidy7219
@niallcassidy7219 Жыл бұрын
I've never been one for spending serious money on tyres. It's not that I can't afford them, but I always thought that top branded tyres were just a show off agenda. However,, because your always truthful in your content, you've convinced me otherwise. More importantly, thanks again Joe for another good and say it as it is video. Every success to your excellent channel.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I’ve always been tight with tyres and do feel Michelin cost more due to the name also. No doubt they are great tho! Thanks again!
@fairfaxa
@fairfaxa 8 күн бұрын
I have a 97 996 Carrera 3.4 Manual and I have ordered a set of thes PS4S in 225/40 R18 and 265/35 R18 as per standard sizes. They are going on the original but refurbished 408 option hollow spoke Turbo twists. I could not get the N rated tyre, as I believe they are not made in this original size any longer. That said, can't wait to get them and give the old girl a good fast run in the hills to enjoy them
@davidthegolfer
@davidthegolfer Жыл бұрын
I completely understand your reasoning. I was thinking of my situation. But what I found surprising is how different the construction and possibly some of the compound of one tyre to the “unrated” tyres, when the look identical apart from the coding on the tyre wall.
@VictoryHand
@VictoryHand Жыл бұрын
Really glad to see your channel doing well. Lets hope growth continues!
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It’s certainly picking up!
@goblinzl1
@goblinzl1 7 ай бұрын
i just had these installed. yes, theyre expensive but i can tell theyre a great tire. wear is a concern so youve made me feel better lol. yes, my car rides great and no noticeable road noise.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars 5 ай бұрын
Mine are still going strong! I will be swapping soon tbo
@chrispig7748
@chrispig7748 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got these on my Boxster, I’m a bit paranoid about tyres and will always fit the best I can afford
@JonathanPieforPM
@JonathanPieforPM 2 ай бұрын
dude great content as always. a recent subscriber - love your shit. Have a Cayman S 987.1 going for a bore scope and PPI tomorrow.... 80k km (50k miles) and i am really wanting it to pass.... it will need new rubber in the next 12 months, so i will be getting PS4's on it... love your style and content. cheers man, keep it up
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars 2 ай бұрын
Good luck! Hope it passes fine:) thank you for the kind words!
@Dung_Beetle1617
@Dung_Beetle1617 Жыл бұрын
Have PS4s on my Tesla Model 3 and they’re brilliant, 500bhp and they handle it fine in all weather. Picked up my Cayman S this weekend and it’s on nearly new GoodYear Eagle F1s. These are probably the only other tyre I’d choose, really good dry and wet also.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
I had those on my old Megane RS. Great tyre and really good for the price. Just think the PS4 have the edge but I guess they should at the price.
@davidthegolfer
@davidthegolfer Жыл бұрын
I know in the case of the BMW there are differences in compound and structure of the side of the tread and wall. I imagine Michelin are as accommodating with Porsche chassis technicians. I don’t know what user level would appreciate the difference and I can understand scepticism. These things can be “the King’s new clothes@ particularly if they are charging more money.
@happyswissjoe
@happyswissjoe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I am gonna fit them to my 981 BS
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Nice! You won’t be disappointed
@parvinkukar1259
@parvinkukar1259 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got Goodyear n rated but I generally change 2 tyres at a time so tend to stick to same brands on all 4 tyres I’ve never had a complaint about the Goodyear and they are not cheap either
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve had those on my megane running 300bhp and they were ace. The Michelin are stickier but as you said it’s good to have all 4 the same. It’s what I do so can’t imagine swapping all 4 again
@chrisward7582
@chrisward7582 6 ай бұрын
F1’s are amazing. A lot cheaper too
@derekcable
@derekcable Жыл бұрын
Been running MPS4s on my RS3 8P for the past 7 years,got 16k all round on the 1st set Inc over 500 trackday miles would have probably got 25k if used just on the road as I loose 1mm of tread per trackday. Great all round all seasons tyre.
@julian987r4
@julian987r4 Жыл бұрын
I think the N rating is the biggest sucker retail deal since duty free. PS4S’s non N rates are just as good for a Porsche, you’d never notice the difference
@stevelittle1509
@stevelittle1509 Жыл бұрын
At least one tire expert disagrees. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebVxaZZhr9vKj4k.html
@WeirdNeville
@WeirdNeville Жыл бұрын
Most N rated tyres now aren't tested for the car they're fitted to. So it's not like you're getting a tyre tested on your actual car. And anything tested on my Cayman would now be 15 year old tyre tech and far surpassed by modern rubber.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
I often think this.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Very good point. It just mean Porsche approve it but not really worth worrying about unless you are selling. Seems to matter to a lot of buyers.
@WeirdNeville
@WeirdNeville Жыл бұрын
@@JoeTalksCars As far as I can tell it matters if you want to get a Official Porsche warranty. They check for it. If you love dangerously like me... On a 16 year old car does it really matter? In the 18" sizing you can now get Michelin PS2's, or Bridgestone RE050A's, and that's about it. No PS4S'S unless you go to 19". As it happens I have new RE050A's and I like them, but tomorrow my other wheels are getting Bridgestone Potenza Sports which are a new tyre design from last year. They handily out perform PS4S's and are cheaper too. So I'll see how they go. I get to test them on the Nurburgring next month.... X0
@Alan-mb8zy
@Alan-mb8zy Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe. I’ve just subscribed as love the way you present your videos. No BS, just your honest opinions. I would love a cayman one day, but as it’s not suitable for transporting my 3 German Shepherds, I guess i’ll have to wait a while lol.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
So kind! Thank you. Yeah it wouldn't really transport one. My German shepherd copes with the Golf GTI. You must have your hands full with those Dogs.
@Alan-mb8zy
@Alan-mb8zy Жыл бұрын
@Joe Talks Cars for sure, but oh so worth it 😁
@jeffchandler7662
@jeffchandler7662 3 ай бұрын
My pomchi fits in my cayman !!!!!!
@davidthegolfer
@davidthegolfer Жыл бұрын
Joe, I have had the same experience of Pilot Sport 4S’ on my 992. The best tyre I have ever used on anything I’ve owned. One problem (for me) with your video. I found your air freshener dangling from the driving mirror quite irritating in shot, but there is a solution. I hate air fresheners. I haven’t found one that comes close to pleasant. They are overpowering and nauseating. I then tried Chemical Guys - New Car Smell which was reviewed by Forensic Car Detailing. I have no connection with the product, apart from being a very happy user. I lightly spray it onto a microfibre cloth and place it overnight under the driver’s seat. Voila, new car smell. I hate to admit to eating some fish and chips (an emergency meal) with the door open in the car. Never again. The car reeked of it. In fact I was rather ashamed afterwards. The next morning it was gone. New car smell. It doesn’t impose itself on the car. It’s just a light background odour. Barely noticeable but there. I can’t believe it works, but it does. A spray bottle will probably last me for years, although I have been handing it out to friends. Definitely NO fish and chips, or anything else near my car in future. I hope this helps.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
I realised in edit and thought, too late. It’s gone now. It’s actually one I got from a sponsorship and have to say it’s actually really nice. Not hanging there now 🤣
@coordsportgmbh5728
@coordsportgmbh5728 Жыл бұрын
Continental Sport Contact 7 next, if they do your sizes.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Had sport contacts a few years back. Never found them to be that good. Mind you they were sport contact 5 I think
@JJL206
@JJL206 Жыл бұрын
Great reviews - as always. Thanks for being real. I run the PS4S on my 987.1 2.7 Boxster and the PS-All Season4 on my 987.1 2.7 Cayman. I drive the Cayman year-round. The PS4S aren't N rated in the US according to TireRack - only the PS2. The PS-AS4 aren't N rated either because they are all season - and Porsche only rates summer and winter tires. I can assure you though that they are every bit as good - and much better in the rain and cold than the PS4S.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I do try to be genuine and honest. I always put summer tyres on in the hope I only use it when its nice weather, that doesn't happen and I always end up testing the tyres in snow.
@JoakimPorscheCaymanS
@JoakimPorscheCaymanS Жыл бұрын
Good Year F1......Good Year has most often around 2mm deeper pattern, deapth than ALL other brands. Good grip. Not cheap....but VERY good. N-rated for Porsche Cayman S in my case. Got no complaints except price. Easily better than Michelin...in few terms.
@rossbethell4187
@rossbethell4187 Жыл бұрын
The new GY Eagle F1 Arymetric 6 is a fantastic tyre. Work amazingly! Similar price point to MPS4/S4S but another option.
@JoakimPorscheCaymanS
@JoakimPorscheCaymanS Жыл бұрын
@@rossbethell4187 Got my new full setup GY F1 Asymetric 3 weeks ago and....Its just like a new car after older 6mm Michelin 6 years old. Dry and hard old tires.
@JoakimPorscheCaymanS
@JoakimPorscheCaymanS Жыл бұрын
In Sweden Michelin is close to half price of GoodYear F1 (N), for good reasons. 👌☀️😎
@MrOvershoot
@MrOvershoot Жыл бұрын
Just checked back and my Nov 2021 PS4s fitment of 4 20" tyres to my 981Boxster S was £891
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing! Where was that done? Sometimes 25% off is on. Seems like a great price
@MrOvershoot
@MrOvershoot Жыл бұрын
@@JoeTalksCars Blackcircles & yes I think it was 25% off for 4 tyres. I have recently go better deals on Tyre-shopper on my Jag XFS tyres though!
@eddybooth1
@eddybooth1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe you said 19 inch wheels 235 - 265 my cayman s is running standard 18 inch your wheels must be an upgrade
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Yeah mine are the upgraded ones, fill the arches nice but obviously impact the ride, would like to try a car with the 18s just to see how different it rides and handles.
@eddybooth1
@eddybooth1 Жыл бұрын
@@JoeTalksCars Hi Joe You are more than welcome to try and film my Cayman S 18 inch wheels, Soul exhaust system But this is the stumbling block it has gears which I have upgraded to numeric And I live in Halstead close to Stansted airport But the offer is there if you fancied a trip down south Cheers Eddy.
@paolovitale2661
@paolovitale2661 6 ай бұрын
Hi Joe, I’m looking for N-rated PS4s in 235/35-19 like yours for my 987 Boxster S, but it seems like they don’t come in that any more (now Jan. 2024). Where did you by yours back then?
@Calvindaydop
@Calvindaydop 6 ай бұрын
Have a look at cs7 instead of ps4s
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars 6 ай бұрын
Really? They were fairly hard to get actually if I remember but the garage sourced them. Maybe they are on the Ps5 now
@Calvindaydop
@Calvindaydop 6 ай бұрын
@@JoeTalksCars asda tyres has ps4s in stock for 987 with £40-£60 cash back in asda vouchers atm
@salami99
@salami99 Жыл бұрын
You picked the best tire other than S5 which is not tested
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Yeah just seen they are either coming out or out now. Will probably swap to them next year:)
@WeirdNeville
@WeirdNeville Жыл бұрын
There's no guarantee that they'll release PS S5'S in our sizing unfortunately.
@dwarfyh32
@dwarfyh32 Жыл бұрын
Michelin PS tyres are night and day better than Pirelli P Zero that a lot of Porsche come with
@MrOvershoot
@MrOvershoot Жыл бұрын
Have to agree, my 981 Boxster S came with a full set of P Zero's that would let go unless the temp was above 15deg now on PS4s its just something I trust.
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve had them years ago on many high powered fwd cars and never liked them. Just liked the logo 🤣
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
Yeah that doesn’t surprise me, they are the definition of a summer tyre.
@CaliburOne
@CaliburOne Жыл бұрын
Quick question, regarding the best performance all season tires for a 06 325i. I’m stuck between the DWS06+ and PS A/S 4s, the price difference is around $200 since the dws06+ are $132 and michelins are $182, Would the $200 extra be worth getting the michelins or no? I’m mainly looking for performance and smooth ride quality. Live around the east coast of new york in Long Island.
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld Жыл бұрын
2:00-2:09 That simply isn't possible lol. If you're driving within the legal limit, you are not driving the car hard. A few canyon runs in the legal limit, literally limits you to driving the car hard LOL. Please don't tell me you're one of those Porsche guys who says he drives his car hard, but never pushes it past 50mph through a corner...
@JoeTalksCars
@JoeTalksCars Жыл бұрын
It was sarcasm. You can’t have a car like this and keep it within the limits. Hitting the limiter in second would see you way above the limit.
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