Reduced recoil , more ammo capacity and limited penetration this is a perfect option for people living in apt , condos or mobile homes . And if used for home defense the object is to stop or repel the intruder not chasing down the block having a running gun battle . And 9 rounds vs 5 or 6 means you will not have to reload under stress and hopefully 9 rounds will solve the problem .

Stuff like this is what I absolutely adore about shotguns: the sheer amount of different things you can run through them

The mini shells in the mini shotguns (Tac-14, Shockwave, etc...) always seemed like a viable home defense alternative if you live in a townhouse/apartment/condo, especially if you live in a restricted state and didn't have grandfathered magazines.

Thank you for your kind words about our product, the OPSol Flex Adapter (known as the miniclip). The miniclip effort began in 2012, and specifically for one reason....so our wives and daughters had a shotgun platform for home defense. We always knew the minisSHELLS were adequate for home defense, though it has taken some years for the industry to appreciate that. We predicted, via the miniclip, that there would be a "minishell revolution", and your video is one more testament to that prediction coming true. Mossberg introduced the Shockwave in 2017, after having our miniclips in their hands for 1 year. For our part, we designed the miniclip on a Mav88, before checking if it worked on a 500 or 590. Mossberg, and Federal, did not decide to move forward with minishells or a redesign of the 500 until well after our sales had reached near 100,000 sold, and the realization that Aguila and Challenger could not keep minishells on the market. Many people have asked us if we have an adapter for the 870. Yes, we have designed a prototype, but it requires some adaption of the carrier/trigger assembly of the 870. We have no intention of moving forward with this right now, because the logical next step is just what Mossberg has done, redesign their shotguns for minishells. And frankly, they should be doing it with their auto shotguns as well. For our part, first, thank to all our customers who trusted our product, and to all those who already have Shockwaves, 500, 590s. 590A1s, and Mav 88s, we are happy to sell you a simple solution so you can run minishells for about $20. Finally, for those interested, minishell lethality in 20g is doable. Our friend, Dan the Man, has provided us with research shells in 20 that are more than adequate for home defense, both in bird, #1buck, and slug. We have a prototype adapter for 20, but are waiting for manufacturers to commit to the production of minis. Oh, and choked shockwave barrels do a nice job of tightening up mini bird and buck rounds at 8 yards......

People who complain about things like this not being good for self defense has never been shot by any type of firearm.

One interesting note about slugs: low recoil slugs typically penetrate much more than standard (1600 fps) slugs, at least in every gel test I've seen. That's because standard velocity slugs deform extensively on impact, so the effective diameter increases a lot. Low recoil slugs are often below the expansion threshold, so they behave like a ball round (or a round ball).

During the height of the pandemic and public unrest, I actually used these mini-shells in my Maverick88 for HD. I wanted MAX firepower and figured with the close confines of my home, the little shells would be adequate. I bought the little adapter and it seemed to work fine as far as feeding was concerned. Where I normally carried 4-5 12ga shells in the tube, I think I had like 9+1 with the Aguilla mini-shells.

As mini shells become more popular I am sure that the ammunition manufacturers will work to improve the performance.

Chris, you're a legend my friend. Thanks for always being fair and honest in your videos,

A reliable semi-auto built to run these exclusively is a very interesting prospect and I wish there was a market big enough to support one. If it was a purpose-built thing and not just adapted from an existing design meant to handle standard sized shells, I imagine it could weigh a lot less than full sized competitors.

According to Paul Harrell and Lucky Gunner's testing, the Federal Shorty #4 Buckshot Shell is shooting a 311 grain payload of lead at roughly 1200fps, which equals just under 1,000 Ft lbs of energy compared to any pistol round outside of a hot 44 Magnum load. And the #4 Buck's spread means it will affect a larger area as well. .223 rounds out of 16" Barrels are usually around 900 to 1000 ft lbs of energy. So these shorty rounds are serious manstoppers.

Absolutely! I have Aquila 1 3/4 12-gauge rounds in my KSG Bullpup. 12 slug in one side, 12 buck in the other and one of the chamber. Cycles perfectly!

Phenomenal content! These are the types of videos that separate this channel from the noise here on KZfaq. Keep it up.

I think apartment use is something that shouldn’t be ignored, but I’m personally content with my 2 3/4 #4 buck. While over penetration is a concern in apartments, they’re also small enough that it’s usually fairly easy to plan ahead where you want an engagement to take place so that you have a clear, easy shot at a choke point with a decent backstop. I feel the chances of needing more than 6 shells are lower than the chances of a malfunction with mini shells.

Could be a problem using those in a state like NJ where you are limited by law to the number of shells in semi auto shotguns. Being NJ they would love to make you a criminal for trying to defend yourself from real criminals.

I really like the idea of the mini shells. I'm not really a shotgun guy whatsoever, but they seem like they'd be fun to try out!

It'd be really interesting to see if someone (*cough cough* Federal) could come up with a proper FC #1 buck load in the minishell format, AND a decent shotgun company could make a gun set up specifically to use it (i.e. shorter receiver, shorter length of throw for the action, etc). Treating it as a separate system rather than a kludge based on existing patterns could really be interesting. For one thing, I think such a setup would go a long way to helping smaller-statured shooters with issues reaching the forend and cycling it properly.

Those 1 oz mini slugs look interesting. The other? Not sure, but I’m glad ammo and arms makers are offering us defensive scattergunners more choices.

Now that you mention it, I would like a pistol caliber carbine using a stick magazine designed to hold mini shells only. Up until now, stick mags for shotguns were way to bulky. Somebody needs to make thar happen also.

The short slug would be devastating and over-penetrative for home defense, but I'd still love to own some. I'm planning on getting a Mossberg 590S so I can try different kinds of the mini shells for hobby/range shooting They seem potentially super fun. I'd love to experiment with some birdshot mini shells as well.

I use them in my Keltec KS7 where the full size buckshot will knock the stew out of your face. Holds great pattern at 30 yards too. Highly impressed with them.

Seems like the 1oz slug is the option that makes the most sense. As you said, it provides the same performance as 2-3/4" shells but provides about 50% more capacity. There does not seem to be much of a down side there, and only up-side. I don't think anyone ever wished that their gun or rifle held LESS ammo.

The answer is yes. Mystery solved

I learned from experience that extra capacity in home defense is sometime essential to survival. I have been in several situations with my Mossberg 590s loaded with minis that the process of loading would have jeopardize my life. With minis I had extra ammo that surprise armed intruders. So, I would never belittle anything that will give that extra edge.

Love to see you guys do a 410 home defense video

I'd like to see some full diameter (as opposed to sabot or sub caliber) expanding slugs for the mini shells. Something that starts at around 70 caliber and ends at around 90 to 100 caliber would be pretty phenomenal. This could be achieved with even a basic hollow point design and some soft lead and you'd be able to use soft lead because it's not rifled or high pressure and in most ammo the slug itself might not even touch the barrel.

The Defender Tactical adaptor allows you to shoot mini shells 2 3/4 and 3 inch mixed interchangeably in the magazine and does not need to be removed. It is $25 and comes with a free new slick red magazine follower. I have one in my old standard 5 shot Mossberg 500 and it holds 8 of the mini shells and I like it.

Shotguns kept showing on my feed lately and I love it. This is definitely the thinking man's weapon, the options one have for different situations.

I would run the model S with a "party pack". Start off with a couple of full size shotgun shells and then finish the mini shells. Thus giving you the benefit of the full power rounds with the added capacity for the mini shells if needed. ( so essentially load 4 to 6 mini shells followed by two to three full size shells.)

The Winchester 1300 and their clones work perfectly with mini shells. My Defender holds 12+1 minis, or 7 regular 2 3/4

I'm running them all the time in my self defense shotty with the Opsol miniclip 2.0. Very pleased. 9 in the mag, 1 in the pipe and 5 on the side. Vortex Venom red dot plus the zero recoil makes it ridiculously fast and easy to shoot accurately.

Federal is fast becoming my favorite shotgun ammunition. My wife just bought a 10 pack of the #4 shorty shotshells. Pretty neat things these are. I'm surprised they're relatively new when, they should've been a thing for some time now.

You said at around 10:21, shotgun engagements rarely involve more than 1 or 2 shots, so why would you want to give up effectiveness over capacity. This is exactly correct, and even in hostel situations out side of home defense, this is also the case. The effectiveness of the round is most often in direct proportion to the threat being engaged, therefore you want effectiveness over capacity every time. Now with that said, I think there is a place for short shells (or mini shells as you call them) in hunting and range shooting (plus they are fun to shoot). But I have never considered them a viable option for defense purposes. Thanks for the video, it was very good.

Thanks for the valuable insight, Chris, regarding both the mini shells and pump-action shotguns, in general ("more user-induced error than with any other firearm").

I really think Home defense rounds should also do a "dry wall test" for apartments. a 1' square. dry wall, fiber glass, drywall, and piece of plywood on the far side to indicate excessive force.

I see what you guys at Lucky Gunner did there. A video on fun size shot shells on Halloween when we hand out fun size candy!

I would totally consider #4 buck to be acceptable for self defense. Yeah, they're not quite as devastating as other standard loadings available, but for self defense, they're plenty capable of performing & delivering, moreso than any common handgun cartridges. I personally would love to see manufacturers develop some lighter weight, higher velocity, mini slugs. Something that could even accomplish some fragmentation or wide expansion to help avoid the over penetration concerns. Great video, thanks for sharing.

I’ve worked 2 shotgun shootings that I can think of off hand. I’m not even counting the guy who stuck a double barrel 12 gauge in his mouth and pulled both triggers. Both were shots fired by officers at violent felons. One was a 3” slug through the heart. Very effective. One was a 2 3/4” reduced recoil 8 pellet 00 Buck that hit the perp broadside. All 8 pellets hit him in the shoulder from about 7 yards. He walked to the ambulance. I don’t own a shotgun for anything other than bird and squirrel hunting. I can’t think of any self defense situation real or imagined where I’d reach for a shotgun over a rifle. For the first 10 years or so of my 23 years in policing shotguns were all we had other than pistols. If I did though I most certainly would not pick a mini shell, or a reduced “recoil” aka reduced performance, shell.

We tested those things years ago in many different shotguns. Two observarions. First they are ballistically deadly for defense. They only have a few less pellets at the same, if not slightly higher velocity than 2 3/4 in. Second (and THE issue in the end) was serious reliability problems. They cycled and fired flawlessly in only 2 guns as I recall. That ended any further testing or consideration.. I believe there is still potential here, but it will take manufacturers to just design new guns strictly for this impressive ammo.

As always, a quality presentation Chris. You're question "Why give up some effectiveness of the one or two rounds just to get more ammo" perfectly sums up the argument against mini shells. More is not always better.

I found with #4 buckshot that you really can't use "low recoil" loads since the pellets are light enough that you need increased velocity to have enough momentum to penetrate sufficiently deep. Gel tests using full powered loads with an advertised velocity of 1325+ (of course, real performance will be different) seem to hit barely above 12" of ballistic gel penetration, so anything below that will definitely have issues. Of course, barely penetrating to 12" is probably ideal if you're playing brinkmanship to have enough penetration to be effective but not so much penetration that there's a lot of danger of collateral damage, hence why I use #4 Buck, but mine is the Hornady Varmint Express #4 buck load with the Versatite wad to keep a nice tight pattern while also penetrating deep enough.

That top down shot at 50 seconds in is AWESOME.

A decent video that leaves out some considerations. For Buck, you didn’t pattern the 20” barrel with full Accu-choke. In addition, shotgun reloaders have been creating 1.75” mini’s that perform better than any factory mini load. For slugs, the simple 7/8th oz Lee Drive Key slugs are lighter in recoil than that factory slug, and can be loaded to penetrate less within dwellings than those typical 1 oz Fosters. The Russian slug molds that have segmented pedals are devastating, and fragment better than those factory fosters. You can load nine 0 Buck in minis as well. You can also go up to your own 2 inch shells, which is an extra 1/4th inch longer than the 1.75” factory Minis. This may reduce the capacity by a single shell but opens up your options exponentially. Most of us know that the advertised length of any shell is before it’s crimped. Thus, a 3” is 2.75”, and a 2.75” measures at 2.5”. Loading for shotgun is quite simple. Any reloader can create a better Mini than those factory offerings, then go with the 20 inch model with a tighter constriction Accu-choke for Buck loads. You can also go with the 18.5” barrel 590s Shockwave that has a capacity of 9+1 with Minis. The 14.375” barrel Shockwave is 8+1 with Mini shells. As we know, both of those turn corners better within a dwelling, with the new ability of loading to the capacity of a standard full size shotgun. Load your own to a 2 in length, drop the magazine count by a shell, and your ammo choice is far greater than the factory offerings. If you want better penetration, there’s more hull volume there for powder. If you want a lower recoil slug, that fragments with pedals, that option is there as well for the shotgun reloader. I appreciate your channel. This one skipped over some of the considerations above. I believe that Mossberg has a winner here. It addresses the issue of over penetration within dwellings, while leaving open the option to load hotter loads, or one’s own reloads, that out perform the factory offerings.

I'm not sure what you are looking for in this video. You say you don't want over penetration but you complain that the mini shells are not penetrating enough. The worst Buckshot you showed were the six pellets that split in half, and that's still the same as being shot with a 22 caliber 12 times!! I would say that that's absolutely perfect for home defense without over penetration and definitely stopping someone! The spread of the shot is exactly what you want because under high stress you're aiming isn't going to be that perfect. You need to rethink this a little I believe. Thanks for the video 590s sounds great I'll wait for the price to come down I hope

Said it before, but you folks do really great informative videos. Thanks for the good data and video, and the excellently clear photos. Great to be able to see the details on the topics you cover. Thanks for the video!

Sold me off of them! I trust what i have and don’t need to add any of those issues. Thank you, Mr Baker!

I remember seeing these mini-shells coming out of Italy back about 8 yrs ago if I remember. They looked interesting but could not get them as they sold out quickly. I think they would work fine for home self defense under 15yrds especiially if your spouse had to fire. Great video.

I picked up a KSG 12 used awhile back, further than I'd like to admit, and haven't even had a chance to give it a go. I've always wondered how well these mini shells did. The slugs were what really got my attention though. This info is leading me more towards that end of the spectrum for it.

If someone would develop something like a modernized Techno Arms MAG-7 that would make mini shells a worthwhile option.

Thank you, Lucky Gunner, your shipping truly has been lightning fast for me! And yes!, mini-shells for the semi-auto shotgun would be too cool for skool :)

I’m not one to use handloads for self defense but this seems like something a home reloader can solve. I just got my first press. I haven’t even set it up. I don’t think it’ll do shotgun ammo but I’d be really interested in experimenting with getting the right mini buckshot load.

The Federal #4 buck load looked great to me! I bet that if they tweaked the powder, they could get another 100 or so fps and increase the penetration.

If you have a 5-6 shell capacity tube then having two mini-shells instead of one full sized shell as you very last shot could be a good idea. If you're in a self defence situation where you get to the end of your tube then one extra chance to make a hit may be worth the decreased impact and reliability.

FINALLY! I've been waiting years to find a gel test on the over all penetration on the Federal shorty 1oz Slug (and the others)! Now for once I need to buy from you guys! Every time, I choose a round from your other tests you were out. Federal HST 9mm is my defense round thanks to your tests. It's crazy that it took this many years to get someone to measure the full penetration given the capacity benefit of these shells... especially with the KSG being apparently so reliable with them, which is what I have. THANK YOU!

I agree on your many points. I also would love to see the FC type wad to possibly shrink the pattern. I will add this...I think the niche is the mini shells for the shockwave style platforms. Especially for house distances when someone is trying to make forced entry. Much lower recoil and the BG is getting peppered with 6-15 pellets with each shot. Never heard of many people continuing to cause harm after that.

I have no interest in Mini Shogun shells or a shotgun with a birdhead grip, but I'm always curious what Chris has to say. I thoroughly enjoy his presentation style and have learned a great deal watching this channel.

Yep. I use them. I have a Kel Tec KS-7. Using the mini shells it holds 11+1 and runs them just fine with no mods.

The damage on the left-hand side of the ballistic gel certainly looks impressive. I wonder how many folks would still be standing after that shock.

As usual, great content! I heartily agree that 00FC is the proper load in nearly all SD circumstances for the home howitzer; But, those mini-shells are starting to look less like just range-fun and I'll be curious to see how more loads develop.

Good video with great info. While I like the idea of adding capacity to shotguns, at the end of the day (as you stated) I can’t fathom using more than 2-5 shells in a home protection situation. Master your patterns in 5-20 yards and that works for 99% of worst case scenarios you’re in. Again, solid vid.

The content is good (yay!), but I also want to salute the production values: lighting, audio, camera work, and editing!

Something to think about with regards to the 590S and other solutions for minishells. Without getting too deep into the forces exerted on a minishell by a home defender while racking and moving, nor on how you may be racking the shotgun in many different orientations, there is a simple reality that needs to be addressed. A 2.75" shotgun shell typically loads into a 3" long receiver opening. There is little wiggle room for the shell to move, though if you rack back with the ejection port down, the shell can fall out. Basically, there is about a quarter inch of wiggle room in probably every shotgun made for decades (of course, not the magnum 3.5" guns). When any shotgun, including the 590S, loads a 1.5" minishell, that wiggle room goes from .25" to about 1.5". In that space, while racking (again, under duress, different orientations), a minishell can flip, fall out or partially fall out of the ejection port, or be out of alignment as the bolt is run home. I am not a firearms expert, but I am not aware of any firearm that allows the rounds the opportunity to rattle around like this during the feeding process. Again, to be clear, I am talking about under duress, in real, stressful and dynamic scenarios. At the range, firing mostly at level or perhaps 45 degrees up or down, the 1.5" of wiggle room is not usually an issue. Only the OPSol Flex Adapter "adapts" the 3" long receiver opening to a 1.6" or so opening, taking up the excess space. In short, a minishell needs a mini-receiver. If I were to build a minishell dedicated shotgun, the receiver would only allow roughly a 1/4" of wiggle space, like full length shotguns.

Clear, logical and evidence-based as always.

I suppose that a mini shell in a 12 gauge is hitting with something like the power of a 28 gauge and I certainly wouldn't like to be shot with a 28!

I run these minis in a double barrel coach gun for reduced recoil and it makes the gun tolerable to shoot lol. Great video

I don’t know very many people who will keep up the fight when shot! I don’t know very many people who are thick enough that 8” to 12” of penetration wouldn’t at least contact a lung from any direction or even the heart in most cases at normal room distance. I would personally feel comfortable with these mini shells for home defense,not to engage in a war type battle at ranges beyond 75’or further.

How do the shortys compare to 410 loads?

Very well documented and illustrated. Your descriptions and evaluations were clear and useful. Great video Chris!

A shockwave full of those slugs seems like a good backpack bear defense tool.

Oh lord that slug was impressive

I would love to see a 7/8 or 3/4 ounce slug in the 12 gauge mini shells. One ounce slugs are over kill for homo sapiens. Edit: I'd be marginally ok with shooting #4 buck for self defense, but would rather a full column of #1 instead of a mixed load. Still not convinced that the Federal split shot is anything more than a gimmick. A flite control wad #1 buck load would be outstanding.

There's an Austin Powers/Mini Me joke in there somewhere

Thanks Chris for your work on these videos. Another thing viewers should keep in mind with respect to shotguns is that we are still legally/civilly responsible for all those projectiles going out the end of the barrel. Just another thing to consider when evaluating ammunition and strategies in terms of personal protection and home defense.

I love your honesty

_"Bullets put holes in people. Rifles put holes through people. Shotguns rip bloody chunks of people off and throw them on the floor."_ - Clint Smith _"Mini shotgun shells mostly put multiple holes in people all at once."_ - Lucky Gunner _"Good enough? You be the judge."_ Paul Harrell

At 15 yards, in a crisis situation, I think I like a spread of 15 inches. You look at it as a negative because some pellets are missing the target, and the danger that brings to others. That logic only holds true if you assume you are hitting center mass every shot. I choose to look at it the opposite way - a 15 inch spread allows me to hit wide or actually miss (slightly) the entire torso with my point of aim, and still hit my target. Great video - love the flow.

I’ve used mini shells in my Kel-Tec KS7. Never had any feed issues

Provided your firearm can cycle them and/or the adapter works they are viable. 10 mini slugs in a 2 3/4 16 inch tube pump...Or a Shockwave? A choke should be strongly considered for Buckshot...

Viable, yes. Ideal, probably not.

I love the idea of loading a DP-12 filled with this. Perfect home defense. Like, 2x12 shells with buckshot.

The minishells still deliver the same punch as three 9mm's being fired at once. Add that to the fact that you can fit 12 of them in the tube of a Mossberg 500 AT with only a 18.5" barrel, and you have 12+1 of HD fun.

I’ve got 40 boxes of it for my KSG and the answer is YES. I wish they made a .410 bullpup shotgun and 410 minishells with tactical loads. Would be the most popular gun in america

Several years ago, a shotgun was produced in Turkey, I believe it was called a Poseidon, that was specifically made to cycle only the 1-3/4" Mini Shells. Obviously, this would not have suffered from the too much room in the action issue. Naturally, to tighten up the groups, you would want a barrel with a tighter choke than the slug bore.

I love your videos haha I bought thease minis after I got my shotgun. once I watched all of your shotgun videos I found the one I wanted upgraded it and have been happy as hell with all I can do with it. I was a single shot shot gun guy for a long time before I went with a pump and I love it! Another great video!

In my experience the Browning A5 does pretty good with minis. The long recoil seems to handle ejection much better and feeding pretty well.

Yes, they did it with Shockwave, I've been waiting for that. Glad you did velocity test with both-THANKS!

I bet those mini shells have a great personality

One, not the primary, reason I bought a KSG is for its ability to cycle both 1.75" and 2.75" shells in either tube. The shorter LOP and overall length of the gun, plus the reduced recoil of the 1.75" Shorty shells in #4 Buck, is ideal for my wife or grandsons, and doesn't hurt my arthritic old joints as much. Plus, as another poster mentioned, no one has ever survived a gunfight, complaining that they had too much ammo onboard.

Living in a town home, Mini slugs are perfect. Saves your ears in an indoor environment and no too much worry about over penetration.

As an alternative you could look at the 28 guage. Competitive skeet shooters have had a love affair with the 28 guage for decades. If you spend any time with one, you will fall in love too.

Most peoples upper torso area is sub 12" so 8-10 inches of penetration will hit heart and lungs while possibly not passing through making that ideal for inside the house.

I SPECIFICALLY set up my full length tube maverick 88 with these because colorados laws are essentially, you can only have 8 rounds in a MAGAZINE fed shotgun, but you can only have 28 inches of tube (not a round count measurement) so cramming 13+1 in my maverick is more of a middle finger to the government than anything, but I will say, in my use case testing, the maverick 88, folding stock, PA 1x prism, with the op sol plug and aguila #1 & #4 buck, #8 bird, and the federal slugs, this has actually turned into a very useful rig. I've tested it on door jams, it will easily breach, I've taken a white tail with the slugs, and I've taken quite a few turkey with the bird shot. Beyond that, firing this shotgun with the weight of the longer tube and barrel, as well as the reduced recoil, makes firing while having the stock folded viable. I see it as, yes it's not as powerful and doesn't have as much of a payload, but frankly shotguns at short range are overkill for most applications anyways, and reduced recoil and increased capacity, for the tradeoff of slightly less ass end, which i honestly see as a feature, not a bug, is far, far more important imo. Honestly, id rather have the lesser chance of hitting something i didn't intend to due to either over penetration or sheer number of projectiles. I would agree, id like to see flight control wads. But beyond that I see nothing but benefit. Plus, if you really need a full size shell you can either ghost load one in or pull the plug until you want to switch back. My WHOLE rig, shotgun cards, optic, gun, sling, trigger, etc etc cost about 750. Again, it's more just a fun project to show off at the range, but I wouldn't be upset if it were my only piece going into the apocalypse.

A point about PCCs. "If you want a rifle get a rifle, if you want a pistol get a pistol, pick one and stop dicking around in the middle." Get a pistol AR in 5.56 or 300blk and stop neutering it with 9mm. For bonus points you can get a 22lr kit for a 5.56 for training on the cheap and small game.

Flawlessly functioning mini-shell Winchester 1300 gang checking in! No silly adapters needed here. Aguila makes mini-slugs too btw.

Always a good review, only one point of disagreement. Shorty slugs have the combination of power and reduced recoil that I can accurately shoot them with a pistol grip shotgun over and over. Can't speak for the other shorty shells but the slugs are fantastic!

Excellent assessment and presentation. I also appreciate Chris Baker's modulated speaking voice, the way he gets right to the subject with no crazy death metal or syrupy piano music. On the subject of mini-hells.... Another way of looking at it: if it takes two mini-shotshells to deliver the same amount of lead on target, you've not actually increased your ammo capacity. You've only doubled the physical actions required to deliver the lead...and in turn doubled the amount of time and opportunity for an operator induced malfunction.

After years of listening to arguments over capacity, recoil, patterning, penetration, and power in HD shotgun loads I finally found a compromise that agreed with me. I bought an AR-15.

Don’t give up on the fighting revolver videos. We need you to test out the Colt King Cobra 3” and Taurus 856 Executive and then make a video comparing the 3” Kimber K6, Colt King Cobra, Taurus 856 Executive, S&W 66, and a Ruger head to head!

Anything that reduces the reliability of a weapon is a Darwin award winner!!! Totally INSANE to think of using these mini-rounds for self-defense! On the lighter side, I considered changing out the bird shot for my 20-gage rounds with split shot fishing weights instead of small buck shot... any comments???

The three reasons I use mini shells for HD are capacity, #4 is strong enough to stop a threat, and I'll save my eardrums. They are alot less loud..