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Are MTB Tire Inserts Relevant in 2024?

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Peter Jamison

Peter Jamison

Күн бұрын

Shop Talk EP.2! A candid video breaking down my experience with MTB tire inserts, specifically Cush Core. I have tested the Cush Core Pro and Cush Core XC products throughout my riding career, always paired with Maxxis tires, and feel that they have brought a lot of benefits to my riding, as well as some downsides. Hope you enjoy the video!
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@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching this week's video! What other topics would you like to see me discuss in the 'Shop Talk' series?
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 3 ай бұрын
What do you think about braided stainless steel brake hoses? Personally I think it's one of the most underrated brake upgrades people can do, I noticed it instantly even on the shorter front hose seems like some systems benefit greatly; you should feel my set of lowly DB8's with ceramic pads and uberbikes stainless lines, chef's kiss 🧑‍🍳
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
@@LaurentiusTriarius Interesting! I have never tried, I will look into it 🤘
@paulwatt8634
@paulwatt8634 3 ай бұрын
Biggest benefit for me is running much lower pressures, especially in the winter. In Squamish, a lot of trails are very steep. Grip is everything when it's wet here. I'm running 16-17 psi in the front, and 18-20 in the rear in the winter here. Zero chance my rims would survive with pressures that low without Cush Core.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
Glad it is helping you out! Wet roots and high pressures definitely don't go well together...
@ignaciosevil2157
@ignaciosevil2157 Ай бұрын
how light are you featherweight?
@bernhodgins8698
@bernhodgins8698 3 ай бұрын
Great vid, and I like the feedback you provide. I realize that inserts are not for everyone on every trail, but on my local trails, Cushcore has ENDED flats and other tire issues for me. I ride on very rocky, mostly raw terrain, and due to my weight and tendency to take most impacts with my rear wheel, I used to have a lot of problems with rim shots and tube snakebites. When I went to tubeless, I always experienced rimshots (running 30 PSI in the rear), so I decided to try out Cushcore. Problem solved. Yes, the inserts have added weight to my rear wheel, but it's worth not burping a tire or getting a snakebite (when running tubes). I only run the xc version on both of my bikes (and only in the rear), but they're more than enough to give me confidence riding trails that I'd regularly suffer flats on.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
That is rad that inserts have been able to solve your problem!
@MichaGajek
@MichaGajek 4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I *need* them. Fact being, since I went heavy a couple of years ago - that is I started using "enduro/dh" tires and got the inserts - I had ZERO issues. Not a single bacon strip inserted in a tire. No major bends in a rim that would force me to go home early. The bonus is also confidence when running lower pressure. Also, looking at the insert marks/bites, they did save me some rim bends. So, I might not *need* them, but I *want* them :)
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
Glad the inserts are keeping you rollin strong! Thanks for watching!
@quinncolby
@quinncolby 3 ай бұрын
My buddy ran them and had the same experience as you. He liked them but preferred to drop the weight and pick better lines.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
🤘 Thanks for watching!
@midlifeshredder
@midlifeshredder 3 ай бұрын
Been using Tannus inserts for 3 years and my main reason is for rim protection and helping to deaden the chatter. Being able to drop the psi helps tremendously saving us mid-lifers from more abuse! 😜
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
🤘🤘
@Chretze
@Chretze 8 сағат бұрын
For me, I'm a noob and I case jumps a lot which will beat up my rims if I'm running low pressure so I'll put a Tannus in to get some peace of mind. Now it would be ironic if the added confidence will make me commit more and send it harder and thus have more speed for the jumps and not case them anymore lol
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 6 сағат бұрын
That would be ideal!
@Chretze
@Chretze 5 сағат бұрын
@@PeterJamison rims saved one way or another lol
@thinkaboutit3011
@thinkaboutit3011 3 ай бұрын
I think i have found the sweet spot for me personally. The cush core like you said gives alot of cornering support its very noticeable as im a big guy at 240lbs. I think the only draw backs are the wieght and the install that being said i now use it but with lighter cassing tires so the weight is basically the same but i get more support plus the rim protection and less chance of a pinch flat are a plus. I swapped my dh bike from dh cassing to exo plus with cuch core and i was able to go from 35psi rear to 30 psi rear and no tire squirm in the corners so i rhink the go to is less cassing wieght with the insert
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
Glad you've found a setup you are stoked on!
@beardoweirdo3187
@beardoweirdo3187 3 ай бұрын
Great video Pete. I think you nailed it on the head. I believe if you're only riding a few days week they're a great product if you not worried about weight and want some extra protection.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@KeywordManagement
@KeywordManagement Ай бұрын
That was crazy to see how far your rear tire folds over hitting corners that hard.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 29 күн бұрын
Definitely a cool angle to see that!
@billydeewilliams8909
@billydeewilliams8909 4 ай бұрын
I run cush core front and rear on all my bikes (gravel, trail, e-enduro, rigid XC, and even my DJ, which has Tannus tube-based inserts). Mostly this is because I weigh about 280 lbs (I'm working on it), and I do want to be able to run pressures that will allow me to have fun. Since I started running cush core (starting about 18 months ago), I've had maybe two flats across all my bikes, and both of those I attribute to the the crappy design of Bontrager tires. I dinged one rim on the e-bike, which I used as an excuse to upgrade to carbon wheels, but that was a crash. Also, I don't like super heavy tires in any event, and the heaviest casing I run these days is EXO+. And all this is with running 25-27 psi rear and 20-22 front. Not to say that I'm nearly as aggressive a rider as you, so maybe things will change as I get more experienced. So far, I've had no reason to think twice about it, and I doubt I'm going to stop using cush core even if once I make it to my goal weight of 200.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Glad you are finding benefits with the inserts and that they are helping you out on the trail!
@UJ3037
@UJ3037 3 ай бұрын
Always providing useful information. thank you !
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@topcat304
@topcat304 3 ай бұрын
I run a 2013 carbon HT race bike as my Gravel rig. I have a cushcore rear tire. Besides all the other benefits, I noticed it reduced vibration into my hands.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
It definitely makes a difference!
@gbshenanigans6952
@gbshenanigans6952 3 ай бұрын
I ride ebike and a DH bike I only ride cushcore in the rear I’m a 240lb rider and the cushcore allows me to run super low pressure and saves me from a lot of punctures.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
💯🤘
@hardmtnbiker
@hardmtnbiker 3 ай бұрын
I personally want the protection and the suspension aspects. I don’t know if I would ever be near your skill level were I would look at CushCore as a detriment.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
🤙🏼
@justgo4033
@justgo4033 3 ай бұрын
I found cushcore made my bike feel dead and heavy, im not a super hard rider and ride mostly trails but still ride bike parks from time to time. I found running a super gravity casing in the rear and super trail in the front works better for me .
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
The heavier casing tires can be the sweet spot no doubt!
@justgo4033
@justgo4033 3 ай бұрын
If i had a dh or full on enduro and rode janky trails all the time i would definitely use them .
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 3 ай бұрын
I ran a cush core for the last year, then I switched back from maxxis dd to Michelin dh22/34 (my favs) and I just couldn't get the rear tire on. So cushcore no more 😂
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
Oh dang, that'll happen 😂
@lukeahlman5288
@lukeahlman5288 21 күн бұрын
How on earth did you get that DH cashing Minion DHR on the wheel with the cushcore? I tried for hours with no luck, and eventually gave up and just put the tire on without the insert. Im a sloppy reckless weekend worrier in Big Sky looking for the most bomb proof tire/ insert combo
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 21 күн бұрын
The best way to do it is to first inflate the tire without the cush core and without the sealant. Then, take off just one side of the tire and install the cushcore. The reason this helps is that bedding the tire first creates more room in the rim and makes the install go much more smoothly. You can watch me do this at 1:19 in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mqqSg892mtfNZX0.html
@energ8t
@energ8t 3 ай бұрын
Volume spacer for your tire…. Good point.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
🤙
@ericdelchiaro9502
@ericdelchiaro9502 4 ай бұрын
Great video Peter! Could you tell much of a difference with the reduced rolling resistance with not running Cushcore?
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! Definitely can feel the reduced rolling resistance no question. Even just going from Cush Core in the front, to no insert is a noticeable change in my opinion (let alone switching to no inserts at all)
@ericdelchiaro9502
@ericdelchiaro9502 3 ай бұрын
@@PeterJamisonthanks for the insight! Going to take my front one out this week and see how it goes.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
@@ericdelchiaro9502 Heck yeah! 🤘
@blakekennard7700
@blakekennard7700 3 ай бұрын
Any experience with the Vitoria inserts? Looking at the enduro model for my trail hard tail. I run 2.6 with a 30ID
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
I do not have any experience unfortunately!
@scottpratico1315
@scottpratico1315 4 ай бұрын
You try these for a hard tail?
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 4 ай бұрын
Negative, however, I only ride a hardtail for dirt jumps and skatepark where I am trying to keep my bike as light as possible. For a trail hardtail, I could see inserts being a great thing to try though! Have you tried?
@billydeewilliams8909
@billydeewilliams8909 4 ай бұрын
Steve of Hardtail Party recommends cush core rear for trail HTs in general, as I recall. For myself, I absolutely need cush core front and rear on my fully rigid XC/trail bike.
@scottpratico1315
@scottpratico1315 4 ай бұрын
Im running cushcore on both ends for my Devinci eTroy. Heavy bikes are hard on wheels so it seems to make sense there. Ive ridden hardtails a lot and would definitely use them for trail riding.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 4 ай бұрын
@@scottpratico1315 Great point about the e-mtb. I found Cush Core to be super helpful with my e bike last year!
@jamlee344
@jamlee344 3 ай бұрын
Running Cush Core in the back. Didn't like it in the front. Definitely has reduced rim damage and flats.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
Glad it is helping you out!
@barfo281
@barfo281 2 ай бұрын
Don't tire inserts affect the balance of the wheel negatively?
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 2 ай бұрын
Balance of the wheel in regards to spoke tension?
@barfo281
@barfo281 2 ай бұрын
@@PeterJamison I mean in terms of symmetry within the rim. I've seen videos of people putting inserts in and they were not continual hoops, they had open ends that had a gap within the wheel when installed.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 2 ай бұрын
I have personally not experienced that ✌🏼
@craigmellin6217
@craigmellin6217 3 ай бұрын
Sidewall support....220lb rider
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
🤙
@dbg3381
@dbg3381 4 ай бұрын
What's that canyon bike in the back??🤔
@no-hope-in-the-pope
@no-hope-in-the-pope 4 ай бұрын
looks like a strive ON (e-bike) to me.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 4 ай бұрын
Ha! Just my roomates bike! But would not be opposed to trying out a Canyon in the near future!
@whekin
@whekin 3 ай бұрын
I can't imagine my rim living longer than 1 day without a cush core. I ride wild trails with rocks, random stones. I sometimes like to climb a staircase in the city
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
Staircases will give your rim a run for their money!
@bikenband
@bikenband 3 ай бұрын
If you’re a sloppy rider, yes.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
💯
@growlith6969
@growlith6969 3 ай бұрын
Well if your bike is like 50 lbs, your ass is over 200, and you have very little mechanical sympathy, the answer is: Yup.
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
🤙
@Jacob99174
@Jacob99174 3 ай бұрын
No
@PeterJamison
@PeterJamison 3 ай бұрын
🤙
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