Are No Backup Plans Finally Good? (Exotic Deep Dive) | Destiny 2 Season of the Deep

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Жыл бұрын

This season, No Backup Plans received a rework that now pairs strongly with shotguns. Here is everything you need to know about that rework and how best to effectively utilize this exotic.
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@jordan95623
@jordan95623 Жыл бұрын
What is the point of NBP changing color based on subclass if it only works on void. Always wondered that...
@the-art-of-whoopinyobehind6666
@the-art-of-whoopinyobehind6666 Жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity to let them work with the other classes possibly utilizing different verbs
@void49534
@void49534 Жыл бұрын
Fashion the true end game
@majora919
@majora919 Жыл бұрын
Well technically you don't need to play void to get an void overshield
@reynauldwhistles2338
@reynauldwhistles2338 Жыл бұрын
Overshield for stasis and void, amplify for arc, regen for solar and woven mail for strand.
@Klodhvig
@Klodhvig Жыл бұрын
​@reynauld whistles it would be broken if it worked with amplified and woven mail, please make it happen bungie
@mezkoo4259
@mezkoo4259 Жыл бұрын
FYI for anyone building for Conditional Finality is that the armor mods depend on the dynamic element type of the shotgun. For example you'll want solar loader instead of stasis loader because after the first stasis shot it changes to solar.
@Luteloots
@Luteloots Жыл бұрын
I kind of hate that they implemented this change. It makes it impossible to have an effective surge loadout unless you only use the first stasis shot and constantly reload. On the other hand it's annoying for PvP as well because you can't effectively use dexterity and targeting mods either. I'm not 100% sure how it works but I assume it's also a massive nerf to Two Tailed Fox as previously void surge mods buffed ALL rockets but now I think they only buff the void rocket.
@mezkoo4259
@mezkoo4259 Жыл бұрын
@@Luteloots Two Tailed Fox is fine, it shoots multiple rockets at once and the weapon's element doesn't "physically" change like conditional finality.
@acupoflatte8594
@acupoflatte8594 Жыл бұрын
Fkin sucks that it works that way lmao, makes no sense to me ngl.
@owenrobinson5031
@owenrobinson5031 Жыл бұрын
Ditto for siphons. The second kill will USUALLY be Solar, so that’s the siphon you need. It’ll see the first kill even though it was stasis technically and give you the orb as long as your weapon matches damage type at the time of the second kill
@tysonkrunek4132
@tysonkrunek4132 Жыл бұрын
Bastion makes overshield easy
@Lamp37820
@Lamp37820 Жыл бұрын
Just want to point out. The shotgun kills trigger force barrier was added to nbp in D1. Initially, nbp only increased the duration of force barrier. Bungie added the shotgun trigger later. The reason it felt powerful in d1 is because force barrier was a powerful perk. It stayed until the timer ran out or the overdshield was destroyed. There was blindingly fast reload while force barrier is active and the one that made force barrier constantly recharge until the duration ended. There was also a defender class node that increased force barrier's strength and duration. That duration STACKED with npb allowing you to have a near constant uptime of your force barrier. The loss of the class nodes that buffed force barrier is why nbp felt underwhelming in D2 as well as the D2 melees being more interesting than disintegrate. Remember, before the void 3.0 defender node had essentially disintegrate as a melee. The benefit of nbp was an easier way to trigger the titans melee perk for an overshield.
@grimmcrag8715
@grimmcrag8715 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my no backup plans titan in D1 was a menace. I could usually keep my overshield up 100% of the time.
@derpdeer6140
@derpdeer6140 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a lot of fun using no backup plans with a last man standing that has discord. Since discord generates ammo on every kill while it’s active, it makes using a shotgun as a primary extremely easy. Really excited to see what shotguns roll with discord in the future
@HolyNotFallen
@HolyNotFallen Жыл бұрын
Been waiting 3 weeks for this build. Loved the narrative progression of the no back up plans. Nice vid as always!
@kyledea187mdkjr5
@kyledea187mdkjr5 Жыл бұрын
dont forget that with Trench Barrel + Void Overshield with No Backup Plans gives you 85% more damage
@Gandalfmandalf
@Gandalfmandalf Жыл бұрын
Also the gernade energy when you have an overshield is what? 400% faster with offensive bulwark? This low key a gernade build. Weaken gernade extra 15% damage
@chunkyrabbit1032
@chunkyrabbit1032 Жыл бұрын
using trench barrel with no backup plans doubles your damage
@theSixPathsOfTrains
@theSixPathsOfTrains Жыл бұрын
I got that on my xenoclast vI Along with 5 other perks lol Graverobber, trench barrel, one 2 punch. I can't remember the rest
@chunkyrabbit1032
@chunkyrabbit1032 Жыл бұрын
@@abdulmuhaimin5274 not an issue since you're using a shotgun
@hellaboveme500
@hellaboveme500 Жыл бұрын
Also , shotguns can have discord this season, and the big heavy cabal shotty exists as well. Been running this for pve most of the season. It’s hilariously ez
@killzone014
@killzone014 Жыл бұрын
I still want it to work decently well with other subclasses, but work especially well for void. Edit: they have the color changes on the exotic for a reason!
@BigWill076
@BigWill076 Жыл бұрын
The shop ornament preview pic shows them with Arc colors. >:|
@ohk782
@ohk782 Жыл бұрын
Did you use Nessa's Oblation shotgun
@Bluu_Bunni
@Bluu_Bunni Жыл бұрын
I guess my suggestion to that would just be general damage resistance on other subclasses or if they want to dip into Stand with it, give you Woven Mail.
@killzone014
@killzone014 Жыл бұрын
@@Bluu_Bunni good start but honestly I just want it to work with other subclasses so I can have it on solar for a doom slayer tmog
@grouthorax3963
@grouthorax3963 Жыл бұрын
​@@Bluu_Bunni they would probably proc different keywords like radiant, amplified etc.
@MonKD2
@MonKD2 Жыл бұрын
I've really been loving this change. Used it on the second encounter in GoTD with double slugs and Acrius and boy howdy did it slap. Can't wait to try it in Tanik's this week
@EnderDragonoth
@EnderDragonoth Жыл бұрын
I have been having a lot of fun rocking No Backup with Conditional Finality, Basso Ostinato (lead from gold, destabilizing rounds), and Commemoration. I switch out Basso for an Age Old Bond if I need to but overall it covers so many things and allows me to fight in bad breath distance and come out on top... most of the time
@generalscorp22
@generalscorp22 Жыл бұрын
Datto needs to see this review. Great work Cross.
@Tyrs.Disciple
@Tyrs.Disciple Жыл бұрын
I've been using NBP for soloing master lost sectors this season and can confirm that it SHREDS anything in front of it. it does make finding the perfect primary to run with it a bit of a struggle for certain encounters, but it's been worth it. I encourage any titan mains to try it out. Great vid and breakdown Cross!
@benjabixbixby8788
@benjabixbixby8788 Жыл бұрын
Use them with RoN shotgun Nessas with repulsor and disruption rounds. Run around like crazy
@turdferguson7330
@turdferguson7330 Жыл бұрын
Bungie really dropped the ball by not making these RGB with Photo Finish.
@justsomeguy2142
@justsomeguy2142 Жыл бұрын
Definitely whooshes over peoples heads the intrinsic glow based on subclass….to then apply photo finish and lose that / create bugged interactions
@dariusac1257
@dariusac1257 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@adoboflakes8473
@adoboflakes8473 Жыл бұрын
I really hoped the rework would let it somehow work with all the subclasses in some way. I mean it changes energy color based on active subclass for a reason, right?
@EvilResidentXIII
@EvilResidentXIII Жыл бұрын
Titan main here, been using these for the past few days and they are just flat out fun with every shotgun I pick. I do HIGHLY recommend a Basso Ostinato with Destabilizing Rounds if you want to use your exotic weapon elsewhere, talk about a room clearing lightshow.
@kingbellos1403
@kingbellos1403 Жыл бұрын
Same. That is what I use. Just shoot and red bar and watch the room explode.
@sloan621
@sloan621 Жыл бұрын
Nessas oblation is better imo
@EvilResidentXIII
@EvilResidentXIII Жыл бұрын
@@sloan621 Ngl ever since the shotgun cross hair changes I've used slugs so much less, but yeah Nessa would be nice just b/c of destabilize/repulsor
@hambonepng1152
@hambonepng1152 Жыл бұрын
@@EvilResidentXIII the new slug crosshair is way better than the giant circle we used to have wdym?
@burnt2951
@burnt2951 Жыл бұрын
i have been using the neroma shotgun with destabilizing rounds, constant over shield constant grenade uptime. its very fun
@jackthompson7546
@jackthompson7546 Жыл бұрын
I feel like these should also apply to glaives. Maybe not to the same extent as shotguns but they have been pushing glaives and no real good exotics to really expand the builds, this would also fall in line with the feel of having a glaive, no ammo and being surrounded. A literal no backup plan scenario
@brooklynbryant677
@brooklynbryant677 Жыл бұрын
You can use vexcalibur on a different subclass to gain the damage increase and overshield extension. The only void exclusive feature is shotgun kills granting an overshield
@dream8870
@dream8870 Жыл бұрын
conditional finality, is such a fun gun, it’s like a nuke tube as well especially pair with nbp.
@Panchoslayer.
@Panchoslayer. Жыл бұрын
It makes me happy to hear him say why not i hate staying far from enemies and its why i struggle in late content cause i like to be close and personal always hence why i love bonk builds
@subzero308
@subzero308 Жыл бұрын
I hate endgame in destiny its so boring... Literally all it is is sit back and shoot the bullet sponge enemies til they fall smh.. We r so under powered its crazy..
@Panchoslayer.
@Panchoslayer. Жыл бұрын
@@subzero308 i wouldnt say under powered i do enjoy the challenge but even though i can adapt to it i really dislike having to play it that way i love to be able to get upclose and personal and actually make a shotty do dmg like it should or melee something with a strong melee and it get hurt significantly but its fine i guess
@julianperez1420
@julianperez1420 Жыл бұрын
Haven’t used these yet but maybe I’ll give ‘em a try 🤔
@Wywern291
@Wywern291 Жыл бұрын
I've been using this exotic with legend of acrius since the start of the season, and it slaps hard.
@unbroken7780
@unbroken7780 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for Mask of The Third Man to come back even though I have no clue how it'll be reworked. 😅
@freshduffman7754
@freshduffman7754 Жыл бұрын
Thx for the video. Only thing i'm a little sad about is that the craziest shotguns are the ones i don't have. Acreus is 240 raid coins away and conditional finality hasn't blessed me with its drop so far.
@mrfeesh331
@mrfeesh331 Жыл бұрын
I've been loving the reworked no backup plans, have been on my titan more because of them.
@skychief1253
@skychief1253 Жыл бұрын
As far as shotgun perks. Void shotguns with destabilizing rounds are phenomenal in add dense modes like 2nd encounter GOTD
@ElevatedScvrecrow
@ElevatedScvrecrow Жыл бұрын
My void builds I have cause of the seasonal artifacts are nasty. Constant overshields and health regen (one build I have ob my warlock) plus being able to weaken enemies with void damage. It also works with a finish it does a burst of weaken damage similar to felwinters helm
@parkasaurus7311
@parkasaurus7311 Жыл бұрын
Shield throw synergizes EXTREMELY well due to the fact you can toss it out for a bit of OS then to kill a chump ad for a full cycle of overshield is just busted plus while fueling that cycle by getting shotgun kills to continue refreshing shield with shield throw
@Bottt08
@Bottt08 Жыл бұрын
Been using this thing with an Overflow shotty and Acrius, it goes kinda hard ngl
@orangesoda51414
@orangesoda51414 Жыл бұрын
i know you said you wouldn't but id actually love to see u do some diablo 4 build videos
@ChazzyPhizzle1
@ChazzyPhizzle1 Жыл бұрын
Watching you throw those orbs in the elevator was painful lol great video all around though.
@yudodis465
@yudodis465 Жыл бұрын
I would like to make a small addendum as I can't quite remember or find you saying it in the video, that 35 percent buff does not stack with well or bubble. Still it doesn't override your surge mods, and this means you can be a bit more mobile, as you likely have to be when getting so close.
@jacobsheffield9332
@jacobsheffield9332 Жыл бұрын
He says it in there fyi
@kmanalpha453
@kmanalpha453 Жыл бұрын
The Titan 3.0 subclasses removes some of my favorite things. I'll never stop missing my Defensive Strike tbh
@SumptuousMeat
@SumptuousMeat Жыл бұрын
Don't think Cross mentioned this, but Discord this season is amazing on Last Man Standing this season. Nye infinite shotgun ammo
@npeer2005
@npeer2005 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more weapon focused exotics lit nobackupplans
@tommytwardowski3899
@tommytwardowski3899 Жыл бұрын
The video we've been waiting for! Titans Rejoice!
@MythicalWatcher
@MythicalWatcher Жыл бұрын
Bruh why do D1 strikes gotta look so cool. That snow and them fallen look sick
@elxslve8448
@elxslve8448 Жыл бұрын
Grenade fragment for volatile, tractor debuff + trench barrel basso ostinato
@Bluu_Bunni
@Bluu_Bunni Жыл бұрын
I pair it with Manticore and an Auto Loading Holster legendary, I rush in with Shield Bash, blow my load with my shotgun, and dance away with Manticore getting damage resistance from in air kills before I rush back in for more when my melee is up. It's a super fun guerilla playstyle that shreds red bars and yellow bars alike
@MIKlLLA
@MIKlLLA Жыл бұрын
I thought you meant in PvP. No way anyone using Manticore in Crucible
@thatoneguyinthecomments2633
@thatoneguyinthecomments2633 Жыл бұрын
Got a basso ostinato with destabilizing rounds that would be spicy with this.
@dusk2308
@dusk2308 Жыл бұрын
watching this just makes me want the class legendary shotgun immobius man.
@mcleary9615
@mcleary9615 Жыл бұрын
My, Substance and Trench Comedian is ready 🌟
@the-art-of-whoopinyobehind6666
@the-art-of-whoopinyobehind6666 Жыл бұрын
I hope they change it to work with the other classes and have them use those class verbs instead of over shields
@FumiTheSillyGirl
@FumiTheSillyGirl Жыл бұрын
Shotgun breakdown soon? :3
@slbwoy
@slbwoy Жыл бұрын
Felt the pain at 15:05 😢
@kieranr2610
@kieranr2610 Жыл бұрын
I think another change would help NBP be used a lot more. I’m thinking instead of using a VOID subclass, it should be ANY subclass. Also instead of while you have a VOID OVERSHIELD, it should be while you have a VOID OVERSHIELD, WOVEN MAIL, RADIANT, AMPLIFIED or after FREEZING/SLOWING a target. Last change I would make to bring back the melee part of the exotic is that after getting a melee kill, it partially or fully reloads the magazine of the shotgun. Just my thoughts and how to improve NBP 🤷🏼‍♂️
@arch0094
@arch0094 Жыл бұрын
Don’t activity surges (25%) override leg surge mods?
@jacobo.6744
@jacobo.6744 Жыл бұрын
Still would like to see void breaches and firesprites track to player like ionic traces do
@dontheconartist9525
@dontheconartist9525 Жыл бұрын
Can you test this with double slug anarchy?
@RadiantHealer
@RadiantHealer Жыл бұрын
Stronghold was also reworked a bit
@Rawho323
@Rawho323 Жыл бұрын
Be nice if this could work with strand( woven mail), stasis( stasis OS)
@TACTICOOL_TEXAN
@TACTICOOL_TEXAN Жыл бұрын
Crispy critters that's good
@lakeracer8453
@lakeracer8453 Жыл бұрын
No mention of Tractor Cannon positive or negative?
@SupaFlyPrawney
@SupaFlyPrawney Жыл бұрын
Can you still get these from legendary lost sectors?
@mrrmgaming6922
@mrrmgaming6922 Жыл бұрын
I miss the old splicer version of devils lair
@AIJ101
@AIJ101 Жыл бұрын
well looks like I'm doing my tractor cannon build again with devour/overshield build
@DarthGrimace69
@DarthGrimace69 Жыл бұрын
Would potentially sheild bash allow for 3 dif champs with CF
@jklew9486
@jklew9486 Жыл бұрын
Damage over time effects get buffed while you have your shotgun out while using no backup plan. So Wither ect... you just need a overshield. That's it
@itgetsdajobdone
@itgetsdajobdone Жыл бұрын
This exotic is so sick with Duality. Do not underestimate the amount of damage that thing puts out at max stacks
@iljagro772
@iljagro772 Жыл бұрын
Man i wish it would also grant handling when using a shotgun
@mikeb4828
@mikeb4828 Жыл бұрын
Another day and another upload... ❤😂 lol
@fracturedsolace145
@fracturedsolace145 Жыл бұрын
Sanguine Alchemy is the play on Warlock! I'm telling you Cross "it's nazty!"
@Stat_Poe
@Stat_Poe 14 күн бұрын
Does it still stack with surge mods?
@philipjgilbert9124
@philipjgilbert9124 Жыл бұрын
i use Tractor Cannon and Basso Ostinato with Destabilising Rounds 🤓👌
@Honed-
@Honed- Жыл бұрын
bungie should bring back force barrier.. they removed it from titans melee in witchqueen, it was my fav melee.... the amount of shield it gave, the damage reduction, really good for melee builds.. ((but at the time there where 1 shot melees, but this still was my fav))
@TCrimson05t
@TCrimson05t Жыл бұрын
Now I'm a warlock Main. Friend of mine always plays Titan and wanted to do the final mission of Lightfall on legendary yesterday. So I went with him and a friend into the final mission. When we got to phase 2 of Calus.... I pulled out legend of acrius. Which I'm sure as you all know now has trench barrel. Four shots returned him to the deep. So Titans. I would highly suggest.... Revisiting legend of Acrius, with no backup plans. My favorite 2 exotic weapons in Destiny 2 have always been rat king and izanagi's burden. I've always wanted a Acrius to feel like is Izanagi. A devastating delete button. Now we're getting somewhere. And now that such a time as come...... WE are the cabal. We eat the mountains, we drink the seas.
@dariusac1257
@dariusac1257 Жыл бұрын
And great builds too
@JTPS_Kasper
@JTPS_Kasper Жыл бұрын
he cross it seems like you don’t know this by watching the gameplay, but if you throw that orb to a teammate it does significantly more damage to the shielded ads…you’re welcome 🙏🏽
@miguelherrera7391
@miguelherrera7391 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see someone trying the acrius build on the first dungeon boss and to compare it to bonk titan. I just feel solar titan is so good it renders everything else redundant
@majora919
@majora919 Жыл бұрын
Lol bonk isn't really a DPS build
@miguelherrera7391
@miguelherrera7391 Жыл бұрын
@@majora919 it's the best titan build for solo content and specifically a really good dps option against the first dungeon boss on GotD
@majora919
@majora919 Жыл бұрын
@@miguelherrera7391 bonk is for ad clear and survivability, never been a really good DPS option. It's not even close between this and nbp in terms of damage output
@greedoiv
@greedoiv Жыл бұрын
Is there a build for those who don’t have those shotguns
@mega7157
@mega7157 Жыл бұрын
Can we plz get a shotgun testing video soon?
@firedoggo9195
@firedoggo9195 Жыл бұрын
Imagine that they bring back universal remote
@anthonysanfratello9903
@anthonysanfratello9903 Жыл бұрын
My solar set completely forgets that the new season artifact has Arc and Strand..........
@ChampionGaming
@ChampionGaming Жыл бұрын
When a void shotgun comes out with Discord perk, its gonna be pretty good.
@logankruse7609
@logankruse7609 Жыл бұрын
time to grab the street howitzers folks, its shotgun time!
@trevormckown1392
@trevormckown1392 Жыл бұрын
basso ostinato + Destabalizing rounds + controlled demolition and NBP, easy CC build
@npeer2005
@npeer2005 Жыл бұрын
Hello there everybody I got an idea of how to bring stasis up to date again What if the 3 aspects that let you make stasis shards would be changed to heal you and shards would be created like tangles instead with a maxim of 5 shards at a time before a slight cooldown kicks in like for example 7seconds So you can play freeze builds on titan or enhance shatter builds for hunter and have heal I think this would make stasis better and more fun for all classes as it frees up your options
@CrashOzzy1223
@CrashOzzy1223 9 ай бұрын
9:55 ahem, gonna ignore duality. (Imagine whispering next) it sucks when aiming.
@maxqazwsxedc1050
@maxqazwsxedc1050 Жыл бұрын
Basically It grains a 35% empowering buff benefit: titan can sacrifice thundercrash for 10% extra empowering buff in a well for dps, and the buff has been very inconsistent for me because melee range boss shreds your overshield The real practical use is it lowkey allows void sunclass to be viable in dps encounters, for its survivability, which is very subjective to different users, and likely not the play this season, where we get artifact perks for 35% dr when amplified
@mr.3rdparty356
@mr.3rdparty356 Жыл бұрын
not knowing if they finished the strike or not is triggering me
@Adprofundees
@Adprofundees Жыл бұрын
We need more exotics like no backup plans
@turboash78
@turboash78 Жыл бұрын
Man the lighting / colours / whatever in D1 was so much better.
@musicaltarrasque
@musicaltarrasque Жыл бұрын
are there any shotguns with destabilizing rounds?
@CasualTiger
@CasualTiger Жыл бұрын
Nessa's Oblation, RON shotgun, it has destabilizing rounds.
@hahahah9527
@hahahah9527 Жыл бұрын
That D1 fov...
@alabamaman1372
@alabamaman1372 Жыл бұрын
Color changes with subclass.
@joerellm
@joerellm Жыл бұрын
What about surrounded??
@dustinmiller9094
@dustinmiller9094 Жыл бұрын
Surprised he didn’t mention shotguns with Discord perk for infinite ammo
@codypeoples1243
@codypeoples1243 Жыл бұрын
Finality + last man standing w/discord + Solar heavy/surges = profit
@cadunvondraco3658
@cadunvondraco3658 Жыл бұрын
NESSA'S OBLATION, with repulsor brace.....
@tysonkrunek4132
@tysonkrunek4132 Жыл бұрын
Bastion, utility kickstartx2 reaper x1 Nessas oblation
@MetaDargon
@MetaDargon Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how they gave no backup a 35 percent stacking but, but changed path of burning steps 40 percent stacking buff to a 25 percent non stacking buff
@boysenbeary
@boysenbeary Жыл бұрын
Using NBPs with a shotgun that has Discord gives that doomguy build
@gerbbabycare3771
@gerbbabycare3771 Жыл бұрын
I can't stand that they're restricted to void now. They literally change color depending on your subclass, at least before they changed again they gave every shotgun pugilist. There could've been so much play with it boosting melee regen on shotgun hits and increasing shotgun damage after melee damage.
@enzaurr
@enzaurr Жыл бұрын
Gotta try this build with a Discord shotty.
@urazz7739
@urazz7739 Жыл бұрын
Could always run triple shotgun if you really want to maximize this exotic. lol
@adambarker6631
@adambarker6631 Жыл бұрын
Delayed shot weapons get the bonus us telesto
@aa4a-a4
@aa4a-a4 Жыл бұрын
Its actually kind of funny how different two peoples opinions can be, even when theyre talking about the exact same item
@thatothermainprotagonist4956
@thatothermainprotagonist4956 Жыл бұрын
Love the video,but I agree more with dattos stance on no back up plans
@banditdawgs
@banditdawgs Жыл бұрын
@:48 why the heck don’t we get a change in weather!?! Snow is only on one planet! But let’s get rain storms and shit like that
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