As always, appreciate these. :-) and thank for the content! I have KZfaq premium, I hope that helps

Hey @Retro Bird, Sorry to bug you. The end of the video had me thinking & Is it elitist to be a KZfaqr /Reviewer & to get free stuff or possibly money for the purposes of reviewing something? I don't feel comfortable sharing names but there are some reviewers I genuinely question the legitimacy of their reviews when they keep getting all this free stuff & their reviews either have very tiny flaws or sometimes no flaws ever talked about. I've seen it in modern video game KZfaqrs who talk about new games or hardware and I've seen it retro game channels specifically the modding scene.

@@ringfitmaster3079 I think there's a difference between being an elitist and lying in order to get free stuff.

Dude I wish your channel bigger , your sesne of humor is growing on me have you consider patron?

@@TenOfZero1 I think your right to. There's just something about some KZfaqrs who act like they know everything because they have insiders. It sometimes can just rub me in the wrong way.

These types of people really annoy me. It's like they fail to understand that some of the enjoyment comes from actually collecting and owning the games. It feels a bit dismissive

To me these are some of the worst kind of elitest! Myself and others would like old collections or remasters of a game, and theres always gotta be THAT guy who says "just emulate it" 🙄

Elitism does go both ways though. I love my SNES classic but I’ve definitely been told “original hardware and crt tv is better”. We should all just support eachother and be happy for eachother.

To be honest, I always see more of the opposite opinions, you know, like: "Emulation is sh*t" and things like that, but well, annoying people will be annoying anyways

​@eniolotero8808 To be fair, there are legitimate reason why people say that stuff. Because it's true a lot of the time. I can't tell you how many times here on YT I've seen videos of games not running right, looking like garbage (terrible framerate, missing floor, objects not animated, missing effects) and the clueless people who haven't played the real game on real hardware start talking crap about the system/game. "Wow lmao Rayman doesn't even animate on the Saturn version, that Saturn really did suck lol". Or "hey the framerate on these Dreamcast racing games are terrible, no wonder the system died". Sh%t like that. It gives everyone a wrong, negative impression of what these games and hardware are truly like.

It’s the sealed game revolution for me, I get it from a financial perspective but as the community shifts into more collecting and less actually playing it gets my gander

I don't understand why that would ever bother someone. I am a massive silent hill fan, and wanted to buy sealed copies to get graded as a decoration in my gaming room. Why would that ever bother someone else? Or even if I look for graded games at a good price to collect. That's strange to me that it would rub people the wrong way.

@@jonb2756 It's because it's a scam

@@kricku that's like saying any collectable is a scam. People who like to collect dolphin figurines are being scammed? Of course not. They are buying what they like with the intent to display it.

@@jonb2756 But what exactly is a grading? Therein lies the trick

I bounce around alot also finish about 75% of what I start.all about having fun

I would never talk down to you but I just don't get how people can do that. If one is kinda casual it makes sense but I couldn't imagine playing horizon forbidden west and Elden ring simultaneously haha

@@stannisthemannis5535 I can see switching games from different genres but personally not between rpgs.

same I end up playing something else every other 3 days

Right now I am working my way through Ocarina of Time on my 3DS, Kirby Forgotten Lands and Breath of the wild on Switch and jumping around through whatever strikes me at the moment. I played through House of the Dead 2 on Wii earlier tonight then Mario Kart 8 online for an hour with my wife. After that we played a bit the Original arcade Donkey Kong before finishing the evening playing a couple levels of co-op Kirby Forgotten Lands. By mixing things up I dont get burned out on anything. If I just played Zelda start to finish I'd be sick of seeing Link on my screen by the time i finished it. We all have our own ways that work best for us.

A-holes also come in different shapes and sizes

@@JTSuter different colors too

I don't actually think that's elitism, pal! It just seems like you're genuinely passionate about seeking the original experience! I find myself doing that too! I recently started collecting for the N64, and even though practically the entirety of its library has been emulated, I really like playing it on my CRT just because it's so simple to boot up and feels more authentic to me, if that makes sense!

If someone pirates vintage games that are rare or expensive due to age and shrinking supply, that's totally cool with me. Paper Mario on gamecube being one example, it was never released again.

I got a Steam notification for my friend launching Call of Duty right as I finished reading this, lol

Did you play elden ring? There are also some good retro style modern games. Metroid dread comes to mind

I like that you're aware of the more positive approach to take by showing interest and making a recommendation! As for modern games, I agree with Dominic about Elden Ring and Metroid Dread. I've had a blast with those two but they may not be for everybody.

I like Call of Duty a lot. That's my fav 1st person shooter. Also it's a great online shooter. I play it for mostly the single player game. 5 hours is enough for me on single player mode.

@@dominicvl1990 Not going to play those. Way too hard.

I mean we kind of have to because of these new "gamers" can often be people jumping in just to make a buck off anyone looking for a good time, and gamers have been burned like that a few too many times.

I'm certainly of the old guard and I can pretty easily say why this happened. Before 2010-ish getting into retrogaming as a hobby was dirt cheap and nobody really care about the monetary value but the more people got into it the more it became about money. Cost isn't so much an issue for most older collectors, rather that it very much became about flexing and money. I see so many newer collectors simply buy shit up and never use it only for it to stand neatly on a cabinet somewhere and brag about the value of their games and the deals they've gotten. (not to mention some youtubers are are outright awful at that constantly mentioning how much of a deal they got in comparison to ebay and how much they have made from reselling of listicles of "game X is still cheap for console Y", and youtube arguably sparked the modern popularity of it all) I got the feeling that a load of newer collectors aren't into videogame collecting because of the games, rather they view it as some sort of investment strategy that's bordering on a hobby. I especially notice that when dealing with buying something from someone's collection, the old guard is mostly "you'll get it for free or the price I bought it at a decade or 2 ago" while the new crowd is mostly "I'll give you a homey price, it's a bit below ebay current sales prices". It's gotten so bad that I regularly get offers from newer collectors at weirdly high prices for pieces in my collection for simply mentioning I have a certain thing. Which brings me to my second point, they have no clue about pricing as most seem to believe their own collection is made of gold while things I actually list for sale get regular messages of "whats the lowest price you'd accept" or rant about how I should just give it to them.

Why would the price go up to a point it has never had before when the demand goes up to a place it is never been before. Since there is more demand, shouldn't the price be going down???? The price was HIGH for retro gamers because there was so few of us. The price should decrease as more people come into the market. Accepting this false narrative by these corporations that prices MUST BE RAISED because MORE people are gaming makes retro gamers HATE new gamers because new gamers are ignorant, young and do not understand economics and are willing to accept such ridiculous arguments without a lick of critical thought... so I guess I am elitist.

@@beezusHrist You clearly know nothing about economics yourself. More demand on a limited supply means prices go up, not down. There aren't any new copies printed by Nintendo of Smash 64 for example, meaning they are limited to the ones that still exist. Lets get theoretical, if there are a 100 items and a 100 people that want them demand is met and prices stay relatively low. But if there are a 100 items and there are a 1000 people interested prices go higher as people try to outbid others to get the item. Also prices where LOW when there were so few of us exactly because demand was low. Granted for new product aimed at the hobby this doesn't go as they aren't limited, but they also don't see price hikes rather they drop in prices.

@@relo999 the supply isn't limited(TODAY), they are making SOFTWARE, and if you think prices were low, look up prices of games in the 90s adjusted to reflect inflation. Wages in the US have been stagnant since the 70s. The premise of your argument is flawed (The product is software) so let's NOT get theoretical OR econ 101ish. There is more SOFTWARE available to be supplied to meet the demand so price raises on video games in 2022 do not make sense. Video game makers are also making record profits so there goes another hole in your argument. You did not think this through

Thank you for that!

Thank you. There actually is an extended outro currently being worked on now :) Should be ready in the coming months.

The older we get, the more stuff like this (and cranky king's quotes) becomes relevant. 😆

Don't wanna be that guy but I'd argue that when you can spend that much money on collecting videogames, how could you not?! Seems like life certainly treats them pretty well.

@@nolitnax6783 I've met equal jerks on all sides ...poor or rich to be fair hahha

Look no further than politicians. They get many millions in kickbacks and are some of the most vile scum of the earth.

The nicest ppl you spoke with spend a lot on video games.

Yeah the good old days. The 80's & 90's. To that I say 2022 & on is a lot better. I can now play retro games & 1000's to choose from with a lot more options.

Well as somebody who also uses CRTs with original Genesis hardware. I sometimes use 16:9 on modern displays. Since it sucks leaving all that screen real estate on a big TV and it honestly doesn't look THAT much worse. And oled displays in particular can get burn-in from not using the whole screen. Another point.. SNES natively displayed 8:7 and had to be stretched to fit all standard 4:3 displays. Not as severe as stretching to 16:9. But you get the point. ;)

What I'm annoyed by lately is SNES Snobbery as I call it. Most people assume that SNES was always superior to Genesis in graphics/sound and there is no reason to play the Genesis versions of a game that are on SNES. I'd agree that overall SNES was a little more advanced but gameplay was usually smoother on Genesis with often better music IMO. Basically I hate fanboyism and how easily people are influenced. 😉

I didn't know Bird was crapping on those systems.

@@tonyp9313 I don't think he is. My comment was definitely not a shot at him.

@@bananonymouslastname5693 ah ok

@@tonyp9313 I can see how what I wrote kinda reads that way. I meant people in general, but in a video comment, it does look a little like I was complaining at the channel. My bad. Retro Bird is pretty great, because he's generally a proponent of just having fun playing games, which is a message I can get behind

I disagree about physical only. Digital/Streaming gives WAY too much control to publishers. I view people who support digital/streaming as contributing to the demise of gaming. It's not about elitism. It's about saving our hobby and refusing a totalitarian business model.

@@medmuscle They're getting your money either way. And before you say 2nd hand market/used copies there's always piracy to resort to if digital get too totalitarian in your words.

@@medmuscle I disagree with that. Digital streaming will make gaming even more relevant. People would rather pay $20 a month than to pay $80 for a brand new game. It's more convinient too just to buy digital. I however do not stream & still buy physical just because it's way cheaper for me...Do I like physical copies? Yes...Do I prefer it over digital??? No. The main reason for that I have to go to my shelf, look for a game put it in, then play. I play online now with my friends & everytime they want to play a different game whether it's on switch or PS4. It's such a pain in the ass to keep getting up & switching games. When I play my ever drive I just turn the system on & just scroll to whatever game I want to play. It's so much easier.

@@apexanomaly It's not about them getting money. I have no problem supporting a good business model. And I don't need to resort to piracy. I already have a large collection. If people didn't support these garbage business practices, we wouldn't be here in the first place

@@tonyp9313 Laziness is not a good quality. To give up power for a tiny bit of comfort is pathetic. And you are objectively wrong about disagreeing. Look at Nintendo closing the eShop, Sony making digital purchases out of date, and MS making it mandatory for you to check your games online. I want you to explain how any of this benefits the consumer in any way.

Anyone who confuses remakes and remasters shows their true colors. We know who they are. And they disgust us.

Ok let's put the last part of your post to the test. What is a JRPG? 😊

@@medmuscle An RPG developed in Japan. Even if it mimicks a WRPG, I still consider it a JRPG if a Japanese developer made it.

@@Level1Sword Technically speaking, you are correct, even if it isn't traditional and mimics a WRPG. "Japanese" and "western" prioritize the location of its origin.

Glad you're here as well!

Thank you!

I vote "Best Comment" right here.

I feel ya. I've been known to yell "Super Nintendo" at inopportune times myself.

@@JEFFALITY agreed. Couldn't help but to hear Retro's voice in my mind as I read this comment

Why are you appologizing? Did he get upset cuz you didn't play it on that snes app for switch?

We should make this a "thing" where we write comments like this.

Glad you agree!

I adore indie games. It's so great to have an oasis from the modern AAA greed, agendas, and their overall "safeness" and lack of creativity that they had even 10-15 years ago. I agree with not loving Nintendo in the 10s-20s as much as the 80s-2000s. They still have a lot of great things they've done, but for some reason, they feel more like they're more after money than they are about pushing the video game industry forward like they used to. I don't know if it's the delicate culture of political correctness that's oppressed these large corporations from being as creative these days, and made them more sterile and safe, if it's the overall budget needed to make a video game getting bigger and bigger that makes them afraid to be as creative and risk taking, or if it's a bit of both of those things. Either way, despite my outlook on the current state of the industry, I still feel that now is possibly the best time yet to be a gamer. We have the privilege of going back to whatever retro generation we consider the "golden era" and playing that stuff, or playing new games with a retro design philosophy with the wonderful indie titles that have been coming out lately. It'll be interesting to see what the future holds for the industry. Hopefully, creativity and risk taking will somehow become king again. I also hope the trend of AAA greed will somehow be done away with too. Maybe indie games will eat so much into the AAA's market share that they'll be forced to change? I have high hopes for the future. I'm really hoping that there's a major shake up in the current state of things that creates what'll be looked back in retrospective as a Renaissance time period. Not just in video games, but in all forms of arts and entertainment that have become stagnant. I so desperately want the industries to return to their former glory. Sorry for the novel haha. These are just my thoughts!

Don't forget side scrollers & beat em ups. When you play something like, I don't know......Wonder Boy in Monster land. You'll probably die a lot in this game. As you replay it 20 -50 times you'll progress, get further & learn something each time you play it.

Absolutely, I play more beat em ups than shmups tbh. And I for sure respect action platformers. The adventures of little Ralph is one of my favs

@@tonyp9313 Wonderboy In Monsterland is a top 10 best game of all time for me 👍👍

@@luckyrockmore2796 Yup. I don't know if you ever beat this game. Here's a tip I found out after 30 + years. Buy Ceramic boots & you'll beat this game easily.

Even just putting in time and grinding can be fun, and that's what matters anyway

Very cool you have a collection.

Oof i know what you mean, but then again as soon as people come over i let them play whatever they want and enjoy themself.

Trust me. Modern games are not that easy. There are a lot of hard ones that challenge you. It's mostly the 2D side scrollers, beat em ups Zelda & Metroid Dread games

Nice catch :)

Thank you!

Sorry to hear that! Unfortunately there are bad apples in every hobby. How do you like the softmodded Wii? I've thinking about doing that to mine as well.

So you got insulted by people online? That's terrible. They shouldn't be doing that to you.

@@TeinMustang I love the softmodded Wii, it can't run everything smoothly, no N64 or PS1 for instance, but you can certainly run the 8-bit and 16-bit consoles and handhelds perfectly, plus, with Nintendon't and USB-Loader GX I was able to dump all my Wii and Gamecube games onto a USB drive so I can play them without ever having to manually change discs again. It's great, but if your discs are damaged, you might get a bad dump, so be warned about that.

Fair point

One way to do it might be to encourage people to move up only if they aren't satisfied with their current setup. You can always let them know that, for a price, old games can look great on modern televisions. But if they are happy with their current setup, it certainly isn't hurting anyone. Not everybody can spend big bucks on video games, especially nowadays with the prices of EVERYTHING skyrocketing. I won't currently play any PS2 games on anything other than a 60GB PS3 (all PS3s can play PS1 games though, so the model doesn't matter there). I have repaired my 60GB three times over the years (once was a power switch ribbon replacement, then my blu-ray drive crapped out twice), and am about to fix it a fourth time (running hot). If it cannot be repaired for some reason, I will buy another one. I MUST own a 60GB PS3. So I can relate to some degree. I recently had to replace my older HDTV (it had every video input connector imaginable) with a more modern 4K TV with HDMI only. So I am just now starting to get into this type of stuff. I'm starting with addressing my Dreamcast.

I probably shouldn't be saying this, but outside the original systems and classics, emulation is definitely one of the best ways to play old games.

The main issues with new games is that they are way too long. They feel like a chore. Once I beat new games I never play them again.

Thanks Matt :)

I hear you. I kinda became a CRT elitist for awhile without really realizing it. But then I realized you can pretty good quality from some scalers and modern displays with reasonably low lag. Even though it's not 'authentic' it can look good in it's own way. Kind of funny that I was into Component and S-video connections but now I'm discovering that RF can look really good on a CRT if you can minimize the interference.

I really like CRTs, but it's always made sense to me that not everybody would have them and there are a lot of other great options these days.

I don't like the lag with the systems you mentioned even a little bit. I can't play punch out on a crt because of the lag & it makes the game unplayable.

@@tonyp9313 yeah but my point is, play with what you like. I don't care for people pushing only one way to enjoy something. Like why do they care how I enjoy it? If you have a CRT, awesome. If you don't use CRT and enjoy your games, awesome.

@@KnowNothingNerd Since I don't know you, I don't care what you play on. With my friends I care what they play on because I want them to have the best experience as possible. There are times where my friends played these games on a HD tv, & said to me, the games control like trash, I don't like them. I told them the non hd systems you have to play them on a CRT. Once they did that, their minds totally changed from not liking to loving the games.

You can use save states on most Everdrive cartridges, which can be used on original hardware.

Can't buy something that doesn't exist.

It's actually "Game Doogie" as in the name "Doogie". But I can see how you heard that :)

I get annoyed when people say that old games "didn't age well." Like who cares that newer games iterated on things from older games to make them better? That doesn't retroactively make the old games not good. PS1/N64 gen is frequently the victim of this and to that I say they were playing the wrong games.

I like digital a lot better. Only problem they cost a lot more. So I stick with physical copies for the PS4 games.

Or you know, not all of us have thousands of games in our house, I mean we do sell/trade/gift them. I'll get older digital games that haven't had physical copies in years, or interesting looking indie games from up-and- comers who can't afford it/aren't backed by big established companies. But physical is definitely the way to go.

@@bezoticallyyours83 Yeah I agree that physical preferable. I just don’t think it’s practical if there are certain things you want to play, and if you prefer the PC platform.

Haha I'm the same way :)

Good call on that one!

A very severe lack of foresight as well. By the same argument those games will also look like shit in 20 years.