When I read the notification I just imagined a tank with a giant silencer on the barrel.

Someone call for a Mirage? _Stealth Tank, cleared for combat._

Imagine scouting in a bush and you turn around and there's a tank right behind with it's gun pointed directly at you. Sneak 100

Awesome video! Love the channel man!! Love it!!

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the Ariete getting an overpen double kill at 4:47

0:04 Camera: *Looks at the stealth tank* Stealth Tank: *Disappears*

Ah... PL-01 - also known as - Vaporware - vehicle edition. Fun fact about this - when it was presented a good couple of years ago... I could not shake off the feeling that people presenting it had zero idea what this thing was supposed to be for. They advertised it as a lightly armoured, close range support tank for use in urban environments, with anti-radar stealth capabilities. Pretty much all statements contradicting one another. Light armour in urban, close support role - no, just no. When in close support, you want some decent protection. Urban environment and anti-radar shielding - why? Urban environment basically denies large portion of radar equipment, while close range role means that that visual detection is most likely by far. If this thing was advertised as a recon and mid to long range support vehicle, it would make some sense...

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About thermal signatures. Having a a physical barrier between the heated parts and the tank do help hugely. This can be done by just covering your tank in branches, preferably pine, or having a dedicated 'coat' for the tank that you can see being tested in several nations already. I can speak from experience that those can completely mask a tanks thermal image, especially from the front, and help camouflage it even better against the naked eye.

Nod's stealth tanks use missiles rather then a cannon. Are missiles a good choice over a cannon in reality, or is it a case by case thing where it's yes and no?

6:10 Also light tanks would already produce lower signatures and be more cost effective to cover in special composite.

>and sometimes light tanks and infantry fighting vehicles for reconnaissance flashbacks of evil Yugoslav M-84 recon tank from Wargame

I feel like a lot of problems would be solved by building a tank with an electric engine. Someone should get Elon Musk on that.

It really depends on the role they have to play as well. Backing up infantry in urban combat is a place where no amount of stealth is going to help, but creeping across a field/plan/desert at night, a bit of stealth would be useful to help you avoid getting spotted so early.

Talking about tracks... I think the aforementioned track technology is around. Band tracks, named because they're effectively large rubber bands, do wonders to reduce the noise given off by tracks. They do have their drawbacks such as difficulty in repairing them as well as lesser durability, but by removing a lot of the moving metal parts (rubber road wheels and pads can help make metal tracks quieter, but there will always be metal-on-metal interface with the drive sprocket and the track pins) it will undoubtedly reduce noise. In fact, many lighter vehicles such as the M113 and the CV90 have been adapted to use band tracks, are relatively common on various heavy equipment used in construction and farming, and such tracks have been used historically on the US M3 series of half-tracks. I don't think you can go wrong with using band tracks on a stealth tank, especially when said tank would be a recon vehicle.

I was thinking of stealth tanks like the Ezekiel's Wheel that are less for recon and more for hit-and-run attacks. Stay quiet, move inconspicuously, open fire and then retreat once the target is destroyed. As for the Allied Mirage Tank, it's supposed to be an ambush unit, hence the mirage generator that makes it look like a local tree.

"Enemy can't shoot you if they don't see you" Serbs: You challenge me?

Speaking of the PL-01, have you done a video on it? Or, if not, would you do one?

3:56 Ferdinand Porsche: Hey, I've seen this one before!

The enemy can't see you if they're dead. *Insert Roll Safe Meme*

You should do another 40k tech video, I'd be interested as to what you think of the Tau vehicles

4:37 I'm gonna say the H word! *Hover Tank.*

We already have Stealth Tanks. Put a tank behind a hill, and you can no longer see it. The reason why stealth technology is more prevalent in Air and Seagoing vessels is because there is nothing in between you and the enemy. You see them, they see you nothing gets in the way save for the occasional cloud or landmass. The Comanche (aka Stealth Apache) is the prime example as it was canceled, Helicopters rely more on the Terrain for its concealment than any electronic warfare. As for sea there is some stealth technology for surface vessels, but everyone knows the stealth vessel is the submarine.

Is that the mechanicus soundtrack Edit: It is

Loving these man, keep up the awesome work

Can you do a video on the ground base vehicles in Star Wars Empire at War Forces of Corruption of the Empire, Rebellion, and Zann Consortium and Starcraft vehicles please?

Spook, you are amazingly solid in your arguments. Keep on the good work, man :D

Very informative video, like it! Keep this series on track ;). Respect from Romania! (sorry for my bad english, have a nice day)

I like your videos :) and your closing song selection

Great vid spook, I always look forward to watching one of your videos especially during this quarantine

Now that you have talked about em in this video, any chance we can get a mirage, prism or stealth tank vid from you? Actually more C&C tank vids?

I've been really enjoying and learning some things with these videos, hoping you keep them coming! Also, was wondering if you'd like to do a "Everything Wrong with" for Steel Battalion. I love me some mechs but you do make compelling arguments on how impractical they'd be.

I honestly love these videos and they help me a lot with the book I plan to write.

Stealthy tanks >needs less heat >no chemical trace please Electric engine >recon needs most stealth >speed helps recon >electric engine isnt as powerful at this time SMOL TANK

I really like these vids. Really interesting, and the background music fits really well.

Last time I was this early soviet tanks were kurbstomp the Germans late war

Very thought-provoking video. A recon vehicle tailored to meet all these stealth criteria would be one tough to spot little bugger when stationary. And MBTs would benefit too, even if by necessity they can't be designed to be quite as stealthy.

as always you have done a very good work =)

Great video!

Another good video, thanks bro

The problem is that it wouldn't be designated as a tank at that point. It would probably have a different designation if it wee developed.

1:50 Going along with this chain: Cloaking seems out of the question for the time... Railguns or coilguns as a main weapon might be effective as a main weapon on a stealth tank, if they would produce no smoke, and at the very least, less heat...? Would a hovercraft be effective against seismic Radar, acoustic sound from the treads, and from kicking up too much dust? Combined with the fact that hovertanks would have to be smaller, they'd be the PERFECT low-ground stealth tank... Right? So basically, the idea is... Thin Hovertank with a Coilgun as its base weapon; simpler than a railgun tank, still hits fast and hard to get out alive. After all, this tank shouldn't be fighting an abrams intentionally.

Please do a video on Tracks Vs Tires for armored vehicles! Currently, my sci-fi series has tanks with electric motors in each of the six tires, and a supercharged six-cylinder generator providing battery power to them, and to the coilgun or railgun turret. (coilgun for command tank, railgun for regular) An additional benefit to a hybrid electric system would be the simplification of suspension components, with no need to run driveshafts or brake hoses to the track/tyres, and the lack of need for a transmission.

I like your blueprint style thumbnail. But when a vid shows up in my feed and i see the thumbnail i can be hard to know if i have watched the vid or not without reading the titel. But i love this style of series keep up the good work man!

Nice video ! 😄

well nice vid as always

Great video Spookston, I believe that a Hybrid Diesel/Electric drive in a vehicle like the CV-90/T-120 shown here is the answer as to lighter tank/scout/recon/IFV/Utility vehicles. The CV-90 series probably encompasses this concept of a single chassis type for all uses better than any other track system currently in use. And the type already has been demoed with "Rubber-Band" type tracks which greatly reduce the audio signature of the vehicle as well as lowers crew fatigue.

Here’s for the algorithm. Keep up the good work, Spookston.

I love your content :3

Ey I love your videos. I'm very curious about understanding how actually all this technology is shaping modern warfare, because it seems to get so sophisticated that eventually it won't look anything like how it's portrayed on media or videogames, like aerial combats are always beyond visual range and relay on very complex technology. I don't know if you could actually address this topic because almost all wars since WWII have been counterinsurgency, but it would be pretty cool to see how everything you've covered behaves in the real world

Finding this channel was one of the best things i did

The outro music sounds an awful lot like the Mechanicus mix! I think Mandalore gaming had it in his recent Mechanicum game and I love it man!

When I first saw your videos in my recommended, they were no voice over and just about war thunder, I was a bit annoyed. I think it's a decent game, what I wished world of tanks would've done at some point with the inclusion of modern vehicles. But now that I've found your narrated videos I'm enjoying them very much. You have a lot of knowledge and do your research on subjects. One of the best I've seen was about the gas turbine engine of the Abrams. I was a US Army tanker for 7 years, and if you need some inside opinions or real life experience about what life is like on a tank, or any additional input I think views might enjoy that content. I've noticed that some interview type videos get a bunch of attention from the military vehicle enthusiast community. I'd definitely be up for doing an interview or anything like answering questions. Would love to contribute if you want to produce that sort of content or even be able to use it in videos in the future about tactics or some questions you might have. Either way, love your content bro.

It also helps with the Don't get hit-layer of the onion, depending on the enemy's targeting and/or guidance system. Even if the enemy sees you with one sensor system, their weapon might use another sensor.

If you're planning on doing more videos on mechs you should check out knightmare frames from Code Geass. Just enough armor that small arms aren't a issue and enough sensors and speed to dodge anything large enough to cause serious damage. Also a nice touch is that the pilots can eject and that ligaments of the mech can be rapidly replaced in the field.

Nice surprise with the halo music at the end

To remove the threat of magnetic mines, ships would degaus themselves in ww2. I bet you could apply that to neutralize magnetism in a tank

You probably know about the Spähpanzer Luchs, but it was a very silent recon vehicle/"tank" of the bundeswehr. There are storys of soildiers in manouvers at night getting bumped in the back by a luchs when halting not knowing that it was there before.

Good thing about radar stealth is that the same principles you want in creating good armor coincidentally makes them kinda stealthy if you’re looking at the right direction. Most AFVs already avoid right angles in their design when Leo king at them head on.

"Sorry boys, no backup for you. All the tanks are currently charging after their last 8 minutes of combat"

Can you make a video on the radar system of T-14 Armada?

Mobile Camo covering such as SAAB’s Barracuda can help reduce multiple signatures to some extent, and it can be made to fit and applied to any vehicle.

You mentioned the Leopard 1 stealth prototype. I might be mistaken, but the prototype in question would actually circulate exhaust throughout the composites placed on the hull so that the heat signature was diffused and overall less noticeable.

0:01 Soldiers: eh, George, i think we have an enemy inbound Tank: *disapears* Soldier: ... Eh, forget it

Honestly for stealth vehicles one major thing I do in games like space engineers is not even give the enemy a radar to find me with. Basically, if you can cut all comms & other basic systems, the enemy will have a harder time tracking your radar signature. Can't track what isn't there, after all. In fact if I play multiplayer, I likely combine a lack of radar with a high amount of camouflage to make me essentially invisible on my home terrain, and in space I try to match it up with the skybox, which usually involves a lot of black and dark blues. It's fairly easy to camouflage in Space Engineers, but it's also applicable to some real world ideas.

“Stealth tank cleared for combat”

40k mechanicus ost? Great music choice

A hybrid-powered, wheeled IFV sounds like a good idea. Its a start anyway. Especially for IFVs built specifically for scout/recon. For long distance and highspeed travel, the diesel engine is used. For relatively upclose and short range, the e-motors take over. And the e-motors dont really need to be as powerful as the diesel engine coz despite that silent e-motor, all that speed will make alot of tire noise. So e-motor for stalking speeds. Im not sure how effective (or how it even works, if it works at all) but the germans were testing demagnetisation tech on their new subs. Degaussing is the term if im not mistaken. They could apply that to tanks. Road wheels r the best for acoustics without a doubt when compared to tracks, coz even with rubber pads, the clashing of metal between the links and the sprocket is a source of noise as well as heat. RCS is probably the tougher nut to crack, but it seems someone already tried a crack at it. Note that something like this, with all the above mentioned mods, will be horrible as an assault vehicle, but excellent for special ops/infiltration missions and these special vehicles can play role as the hidden command centre. Basically a ninja IFV. A Shadow tank. Ooh.. that sounds nice 😂

For future topics I'd like to hear your thoughts on drone AFVs

When Polish goverment said that they won't buy PL-01 because it's too expensive and made a statement that nobody else can buy it. My country so beautiful Xd

Seeing the Object 279 is the flavour of the month, maybe a video on that?

I take my camouflage inspiration from girls und panzers

Armed cybertruck is a pretty good stealth tank just hope the enimy doesn't know its weaknesses like the windows

The US does have a hybrid tracked APC that can go up to 40mph in full electric mode. It makes sense for infantry insertion and extraction and much more so than stealth helicopter if the terrain supports ground vehicles.

The most likely thing to be close to the function of a stealth tank would be an armored car or some other similarly armored wheeled vehicle with missiles or a recoilless system and an autocannon. Hybrid engine able to cover a reasonable range electrically but is still focused on IC power, wheel flaps all around to avoid kicking up dust as much as possible, radar absorbing paint, shrouded autocannon barrel and receiver. As much of a low profile as possible while still making it easy to evacuate the vehicle and operate the needed machinery.

Gotta love the nonfunctional aps System on the cv90120, every time I get killed by an atgm I go reee in it

To put a slight correction, although electric engines are virtually silent, it does however produces a sound wave that’s very audible to sensitive ears and specialized sensors. Therefore additional treatments must be in place to make it truly virtually silent

you forgot the best way to reduce your tank's visibility detection: increase weapons range. Your enemy can't detect your visually if you hit them from five miles away, ivan!

I like how the entire time you're driving around in a CV90-120T, the basis for the PL-01.

Do you have any interest in expanding your channel to aircraft at any time? Have you considered doing a video on surface to surface guided munitions? I actually don't know what all kinds of guidance ground to ground missiles use. Is it SARH primarily? Infrared? Are there ARH missiles?

Hey Spook, what's your take on Graphene and its role in future tank warfare?

good clip

Who needs all of that stealth technology when you have bushes?

stealth tech is important even for something like an mbt. obviously you can't hide it from people, but if you can make it harder to missiles to aquire and track that's a massive bonus.

Take a look at the Spähpanzer Luchs. It does (did) a lot of the things you talked about. There are some pretty tall tails about how quiet it was. Before its time I guess?

So: hydrogen fuel cell electric motor, all terrain fit optical camouflage, radar absorbing material, better suspension, and ever more compact and remote controlled parts. That looks pretty stealth to me. But, I might be wrong because I don’t know anything.

Small bit with stealth tanks, folks wanting the sci-fi version like the Nod Stealth Tank would often ignore how much electricity it would both produce and consume to keep the optical/electronic camouflage system operational while moving and then there's the EMP effect as well.

For every measure, there will be a countermeasure. You will see detection systems that work on sound, IR, Ultraviolet, visual, radar, chemical detection, vibration, magnetic, etc... Then you you see infantry using some type of "painting" system to mark targets with a transmitter, radioactive element, or something to cover the tank to neutralize the stealth materials. I can see a forward observer calling in artillery with air burst ordnance with a substance to cover and neutralize stealth tech.

subtle admech music in the background at the end

One thing you mention on a lot of sci-fi tanks is that they have wide treads. Would wide treads reduce heat, sound and vibration? Wide panels allow faster heat dissipation and larger pads would spread the impact of the tread over a larger area dampening the sound. Thoughts?

Why do tanks have tracks? For weight capacity, ground pressure reduction and improved traction. - For light tanks / IFVs, can we use something that doesn't have the disadvantages of tracks? Yes. Tires. A 6-wheel or 8-wheel setup can trade off armor for mobility to focus on the middle & outer layers of the Survivability Onion. If you use wheels that are both numerous enough and fat enough, you can keep ground PSI down to acceptable levels. - By using wheels, one automatically gets savings in weight, sound, seismic & heat generation. This in turn, allows for a smaller power-train, further reducing weight, space, sound, heat and exhaust. The weight of a tank's track assemblies (the track blocks, road-wheels, drive sprockets, etc...) exceeds 10 tons. That's 1/2 a Stryker's curb weight and 2/3 an MRAP's curb weight. - Basically, don't use tank tracks unless you *REALLY* need the extra weight capacity and traction those give.

The main thing you'd want to work is reducing and altering visibility. Sound, tremors, etc can alert to your presence, but not to your location - not as precisely as sight, at least

If I remember correctly the challenger 2 'megatron' /life extension program cr2's are almost invisible to thermal cameras the only problem with that though is the tank spews smoke and flames out off the exhaust which ends up silhouetting the tank making the new plates that make it immune to thermal are almost useless

It's an old original Xbox game but, having seen this it dawned on me. Would you ever consider doing a video on the Rommel Tank from Mechassault 2 if you were able? It has double barrels so I know you'd have a ball with that and it's crew arrangements, but aside from that I'm genuinely curious as it's not often we see a tank that has active camouflage and is dedicated to sniping.

I thik you're right, i mena the stealth will be only on recon light tanks, i belive the same, but i think since almost every modern tank has heat visions, the "heat stealth" could become the part of any future MBT. Since it's a bit less likely to detect it to far range (there won't be a small white point in the gray stuff). And i think camo is still an important thing, and if they will make this, it will be even more, becouse if the heat vision can't spot it on the battlefield, than they have to cover it from human eyes.

the swedish MCS Barracuda thermal/radar camouflage is the epitome of camo nets for tanks. it lower vehicle's thermal signature by insane amounts and can reduce radar signature that are on millimetre waves. you should take a look at SAAB MCS Barracuda. Stealth is already an option for tanks

children of the omnissiah is so god dam good thx mandalore

Maybe soemthing on american Rapid Deployment Force 75mm ELKE project? Especially one with elevating externally mounted gun. In my opinion this concept has a lot of potential (but obviously some drawbacks too).

Reminds me of Act of War's TX-99 Akula

I'm guessing the thermal pads are based on some sort of peltier technology or something like that. If so, it is probably possible to embed them within the armor of a tank (or a thin outer armor) rather than use those bulky looking tiles. Heck, a flexible film or sheet is probably not too far off, which would make covering a tank a lot easier. Whatever form thermal camouflage takes though, it probably wouldn't be too hard to control them to maintain a thermal "image" while moving--imagine projecting an image on a rotating object. Despite its rotation the image stays the same. Only now there's no projector, just a dusplay covering the entire object.