No problem just glad it was interesting. Thanks for watching and commenting:)

@@markkach7484 hey! Great advice. Thank you. I’ve just got a Zuul on the way but I hear the Noise Reaper is excellent!

Absolutely. Summed up all the main points there! gj

Really glad it was useful! Thx for the comment!

Excellent idea with the compressor:) yeah not been gigging either of course, maybe time to play with my board again and swap some pedals out. Always fun :)

Pedals 'n' Stuff To be fair half the fun is assembling/ reassembling the boards, another little trick for you with the qmx, if you have a analog delay that doesn’t have trails is to put it in the last loop of the qmx , don’t connect it to loop 6 return but instead put in a shorted jack plug and run the qmx output and delay into a parallel mixer like the JHS 2 into one mixer so when you switch off the delay with button 6 on the qmx you get the trails from the delay as it’s return is still connected but it’s input isn’t !

@@billytremoloband7456 great trick:) 👍

No problem dude. Hope it was helpful and interesting:)

Very good point, and thanks for adding the time links too. I feel switchers give more control, but certainly affect the sound. Whether a good or bad thing is debatable I guess:) maybe it doesn’t even matter as whether we use one or not we’ll dial in the sound we want with or without it:) Thx for the comment! 🙏

Ok this completely agrees with my opinion too, there’s been some comments saying that it sounds better without the switcher but I feel for sure the switcher gave a closer to the amp tone. Thx for the comment!

Thx for commenting. Very interesting point. According to Catalinbread, it’s true bypass, switchable to buffered. So I don’t think this was the case, but a very interesting point. catalinbread.com/products/belle-epoch-deluxe

Hey. No reason why not I can think of. Depends what you want to do with it I guess but, as I’m sure you know, the qmx is a basic switcher so it doesn’t affect the operation of the Stomp at all, just brings it in and out of the signal path.

Thx for the comment. Yup you’re right of course. Cheers 🙏

Very kind of you. Thx for the comment! Have you used switching systems? I’ve migrated onto the Gigrig Atom now and it’s great.

I have just started using the GIGRIG Quartermaster 8! I love it!@@samgoffenguitar

Glad it was useful:) I’m using George L. However I also love EBS as their flat cables are great too and take up very little space.

@@samgoffenguitar Thanks man! I've got some of those flat EBS ones on my wishlist, but was worried they may twist weird with a QMX!

@@archiveiteverywhere I think you’ll be fine. Just keep them tidy and I’m sure you’ll have no issues. Good luck with the tone search:)

@@samgoffenguitar Thanks for helping me on the journey my man!

@@ADJ1.1 hi Glad it was helpful! And thx for commenting. No, I don’t think you need to spend that much if you are just thinking about powering the switcher. But if you need something to power the switcher and your pedals, I’d say yes, you need a good power supply. The cioks is hard to beat - the DC7

@@samgoffenguitar awesome. Thank you. I shall check out the cioks.

@@ADJ1.1 it is great. Still not cheap though. I use the gigrig isolator to expand it too, which is pretty cool.

Useful time stamps. Thanks for that. Have pinned this :)

@@samgoffenguitar You´re welcome, let me improve it even more :)

Thx so much for the comment. I’m very glad it was useful for you. If you have pedals before or after the switcher they will always be in the signal path. Anything actually in the switcher loops will only be in the chain and affect the signal if the loop is engaged. I think this is what you mean with your question. Apologies if I’ve misunderstood:)

@@samgoffenguitar I’m primarily doing it for tone. I just don’t know how marginal it would be if a pedal or two in the chain that wasn’t connected to the switcher. Does even one pedal before or after that switcher, defeat the point all together.

@@allend3127 I wouldn’t say that, but it may well affect things. Depends on the pedal too, buffered, true bypass etc. I sometimes have a preamp style pedal outside of the loop as an always on pedal, so you can use ones outside the loop as tone shaping tools too. I’d consider getting a switcher and experimenting as only you can know the tone you want at the end of the day. Maybe get a used one so if you do sell it on you don’t lose money.

tunaXonXtoast completely agree. Interesting eh?

That can be true. This is a basic switcher but there are more complex ones like the G3 from gigrig which allow more ins and outs. You can also use ports on the side of your board like those that temple boards do www.templeaudio.com/mods So there are always options. Personally I use a two rock as an amazing clean platform, so I use pedals in front of the amp anyway. There’s very little point in using the effects loop unless running distortion from the amp.

Dan at the GigRig did a video on just that, showing how to use this in the fx loop or for a wet/dry rig.

Here you go dude. It isn’t too much hassle. And yup, you’ll need to use trs cables. robertkeeley.com/woo/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/DMDriveInstructionsPrint11.jpg

You can have as many in a loop as you’d like but …. If you only want one to come on when you use the Quartermaster you’d need to only have that one pedal switched on. You probably know this but the way these switchers work is that you have the pedal in the loop but switched on all the time. Then when you engage that loop on the switcher, you then put that pedal in the signal chain. So if you have two pedals in one loop but don’t want one to sound all the time, it can’t be on. Then you’d have to turn it on separately. So basically, yes you can have more than one in a loop but one on and the other off. You can get big buttons that are useful additions too. They go over the switch and are great.

@@samgoffenguitar That’s all I needed to read, thanks a lot for the reply! I’m definitely getting one now

Excellent. I hope you notice the difference in tone and also love the functionality!

I’m pretty sure I’ll love it! Man, sorry to bother you, but now I’m thinking about the delay on the fx loop. I’ll like to use the dedicated loop I’m gonna set on the QMX6 for the delay to send it to the fx loop of my amp. Do you think that with one of these single loop pedal switchers like the one from Loop-Master can I do that but also run it in front of the amp when the switcher is off? Is any of that possible? haha thanks again bro! I just found out about the One Control Chamaeleo Tail Loop MKII and I need help cause I really want the QMX6

@@chusmusic with the QM6 the input goes in on the right side, then outputs on the left, with any loops that are turned on coming in between. This means there is in effect only one output of the QM6, so if you want a delay pedal in the loop of your amp, you can’t really have it in your QM6. There are solutions of course and unless you’re using lots of overdrive from your amp you don’t really need the delay in the loop. I tend to use pedals for dirt which is why I went for the Two Rock amp as it’s got so much headroom. So all I do is have the delay after my dirt pedals in the QM6. Hope this helps :)

Hey:) you’ve only really got the options you’ve mentioned- in a loop in the QM or before / after the QM. You can have more than one pedal in a loop, but they’ll both be affected of course by that loop being in or off.

Thx for the comment. This also isn’t true sry. I haven’t watched it all again but at (06:30) or so onwards I definitely play chords and lead for with and without ;) Also very similar solo parts with the cali, box of rock and D&M drive. I think the tones are definitely comparable

Hi, no it won’t. There is no digital programmable aspect to the Qmx. So you can’t do things like change the order of the loops etc like with the more advanced switchers. You may be able to find a way with creative cabling but it’s not designed with this in mind.

Thx for the comment but it’s not odd at all. Many people use switchers as even when true bypass pedals you still have lengths of cable and the pedals the signal is travelling through. This can add up to a lot of extra cable which impacts tone. I honestly don’t need to defend this point, it’s just fact. As a simple comparison anyone can try, play through just one pedal with just one cable going in and one out to the amp. Now hook up your entire board (which for some people is vast) without a switcher and check the tone and feel. There’s a clear difference, especially if you record the sound of both so you can A B it later on as it’s easy to forget what one pedal sounds like on its own by the time you’ve then set up an entire board. It also comes down to as you say, convenience eg putting specific pedals you always have on together in one loop to save on tap dancing. Apart from this, everyone’s idea of good tone and feel on the guitar varies, and I definitely found a positive difference when using the switcher to when not. However ymmv etc.

Pedals 'n' Stuff, I’ve 19 pedals on my main analog board in a high quality switching system incorporating isolated power supplies. A little less than half are buffered in the off position. For the rest, if I have them “off” with a given loop engaged, I’m basically listening to the color of cable, connectors, and true bypass switches. With coax cable in the loops, and total cable length considered, the items mentioned add up, but are still virtually invisible compared to chaining them inline. Totally different story if the non-true-bypass loops are engaged with the pedals off. Interactions between buffers makes (potentially) a bigger audible difference than the virtually transparent switching system loops and additional cabling. I had a strong reaction seeing true bypass pedals in the equation without mention of which ones buffer in the off position. Please pardon my chiming in, and I hope our discussion here helps someone. Ultimately ears have the final word, and myth abounds. I switched to electric guitar in 1983, and have heard my fair share of buzzy, naively wired systems, thus some strong opinions. Cheers.

Cautionary tale with a happy ending: A friend once coveted an original Boss CE-1. He eventually purchased one. Listening in isolation he was devastated that it sounded nothing like what he was expecting. He later called me to report that his cheap tuner pedal placed in front of the chorus revealed the dream tone he’d anticipated. (Phew!) Buffers matter, at least sometimes. If he had the tuner isolated in a switching system, he might not have discovered the solution to the impedance issue.

Absolutely agree and personally appreciate anything in the comments that’s helpful in anyway. I don’t have the last day in all things guitar by any means and appreciate your detailed notes, and hopefully so will others. Thx!

Paul Stafford Cook all correct😃. You need your own patch cables that connect each pedal to the switcher. You can have more than one pedal in a loop though if you want. So say you always use your lead boost with a little slap back delay, you could connect your boost and delay together and then connect them both to one loop in the switcher.

Brilliant, thank you for such a quick response! No doubt I’ll purchase this switcher in 2020 and I’ll stick a review on my channel. Thanks 🙏

Paul Stafford Cook no problem. I think you’ll like it. Although it’s hard to hear a difference unless you record it and listen back, it definitely improves tone.

Paul Stafford Cook out of interest how did you increase your subscribers? I seem to struggle to get to the 1000 mark😀. Any advice would be great

Well I just subscribed, so there’s one more 🤣. The reason I’m growing is that watchers seem to like my playing. I play from the heart and that seems to strike a chord with people. Hope this helps 👍

Lloyd Algarne no problem :) you can have one side on or the other, or have them both on at the same time. It’s a great pedal. You can even put a different effect in between if using a switcher pedal :)

@@samgoffenguitar thnks for the reply man!! Nice video

Lloyd Algarne did you notice this vid? I go thru the pedal here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJ5doLxkvti5h6M.html

A pleasure. Hope it was useful. Thanks for the comment

David Burleigh we all prefer different tones. Be interested to know why you think it sounded better though. Better is very general :)

@@samgoffenguitar it sounded like you lost the highs when you went through the switcher. Actually it sounded like you lost alot of frequencies when you went through the switcher. In the video it says it sounds fuller but it sounds muffled to me. I've been watching alot of videos on switchers and this is the only one I've seen where the sound looses the high end when going through the switcher. Am i missing something? I need a switcher to make easier but this video is making me think twice. Maybe it's the HX stomp? I had the HX effects and just going through that without it even engaged sucked all the tone out of my sound.

David Burleigh thx for the comment. I personally preferred the tone with the switcher. Was rounder to me with more mid harmonics, but we all have different ears. Of course the amp could simply be set differently if you wanted to dial more treble in or more mids out. The Hx will not have sucked tone for most of the vid as that was in its own loop when the switcher was being used. Conversely it’s in the chain every time without the switcher, which was the sound you preferred. Definitely interesting to hear your take on this tho. Thx again for taking the time to reply!

@@FLdb-wj4wc I agreed with you on this. Sounded murkier with the switcher - the opposite of what I was expecting. Has made me think twice too. Maybe a good quality buffer is better after all?? 🤔

@@robotson21 after years of messing with my amps & pedals, i got a Helix. So far i like it. I need a bunch of different tone for my 80s music band and it's working great. No noise. No wires. Consistent tone. Easy set up.