Are the Russians lying about the Moskva warship sinking? | Lord Richard Dannatt

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Күн бұрын

“The Russian line on this is a load of baloney. A ship of that size should not sink because it had a fire on board.”
Lord Richard Dannatt, former chief of the general staff, talks about the Moskva sinking in the Black Sea with Jenny Kleeman and Calum on Times Radio.
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@ListenToTimesRadio
@ListenToTimesRadio 2 жыл бұрын
"“There is mud in the fields, everywhere. It's making it very difficult for the Russians to advance." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gpiIeMipxsnRhXk.html
@kenkroehler2426
@kenkroehler2426 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! May the HEAVY RAINS over Ukrainian land and sea continue to TOTALLY DISRUPT ALL military operations. (RAINS expected to continue throughout next week.)
@giovanni-ed7zq
@giovanni-ed7zq 2 жыл бұрын
moskva was not sunk, it is now a special snake island memorial reef and crab hotel. saying the word sunk and moskova together can get you 15 years in jail for fake news.
@hymns4ever197
@hymns4ever197 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks be to God.
@fuckfannyfiddlefart
@fuckfannyfiddlefart 2 жыл бұрын
@@hymns4ever197 God is letting CIVILIANS be MURDERED God is EVIL or powerless
@gloin10
@gloin10 2 жыл бұрын
The word is 'Rasputitsa', which describes the situation in that part of the world when the ground thaws and basically becomes metres of liquid mud. This is why the Russians have been road bound. They really invaded in the wrong season.
@pyatig
@pyatig 2 жыл бұрын
As an American who was born in Odessa this prognosis makes me shiver. I love Odessa with all my heart and I don’t want to see it turned into rubble. City center looks a bit like Paris as it was built by European architects employed by Catherine. The opera house alone is a marvel of architecture
@BioLogicalNerd
@BioLogicalNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately with the "new" guy in that has a reputation for carpet bombing large swathes of land I would not be surprised if that happens here as well...
@triadwarfare
@triadwarfare 2 жыл бұрын
Russia wants to destroy Ukranian culture and identity. That's why they bombed the Mariupol Theater even with children inside.
@jaimepatena7372
@jaimepatena7372 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Odessa was destroyed during WW2. Am I wrong?
@PozorUkraine
@PozorUkraine 2 жыл бұрын
Actually sir why did you leave your hometown for a better future away overseas in the US? Is it ok to love your Odessa from thousands of miles away?
@smc130
@smc130 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps pyatig was born iof American 🇺🇸 parents in Odessa, or pyatig May be a “she” or quite advanced in age.
@LouLikestowatch
@LouLikestowatch 2 жыл бұрын
Soon, putin will be saying 'what ship? we never even had a ship.'
@Andygb78
@Andygb78 2 жыл бұрын
Special sinking operation.
@yulka1712
@yulka1712 2 жыл бұрын
Everything is part of the plan 🌚😂
@thomasborgsmidt9801
@thomasborgsmidt9801 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! "Comical Ali" taken to his extreeme.
@johnnydsouza2276
@johnnydsouza2276 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@lindsaycole8409
@lindsaycole8409 2 жыл бұрын
"Are the Russians lying " the answer is yes, it is always yes.
@mythos5809
@mythos5809 2 жыл бұрын
True, but not as much as Ukraine, US, NATO and western media. Just based on sheer volume.
@boondocker7964
@boondocker7964 2 жыл бұрын
Their lips are moving, right?
@rtqii
@rtqii 2 жыл бұрын
@@mythos5809 Putin supporters say war crimes are perfectly acceptable. They are all our fault. Zelenskyy should surrender, so Putin can commit genocide in peace. Russia is the real victim here, and they have a right to commit war crimes because NATO is forcing Russia to do this... It's America's fault too... America and the western media need to be prosecuted for the Bucha crimes. This proves Putin's retreat is strategically brilliant, everything is going according to plan. All the armor destroyed is Ukrainian, anybody can paint a Z on and make it look Russian. Putin is going to send in his real army now and punish Ukraine and it's NATO's fault when Putin attacks Ukraine. Putin still has speedo missiles and he can flatten any city he wants. The west should be scared of Putin's speedo missiles flattening their cities like Ukraine. Russia hates the world and it's all the world's fault. If you don't support Putin, you die, and you deserve that. -- I am getting the propaganda message.
@Tismesue
@Tismesue 2 жыл бұрын
@@mythos5809 Not possible even then. Just about everything Russia says is a lie whereas The West just don't do that with everything. I'm not saying they never lie, just nowhere even close to the way Russia does.
@ukie1242
@ukie1242 2 жыл бұрын
@@mythos5809 - Believe who you will but picking the wrong side is your problem.
@terrencekane8203
@terrencekane8203 2 жыл бұрын
Any Russian ship that approaches Odessa will meet the same fate as the Moskva, right to the bottom of the Black Sea. 💙💛
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo 2 жыл бұрын
Why are the other vessels still afloat then?
@zortzsborgnine3983
@zortzsborgnine3983 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo because they're out of missile range....they all sailed away a further 200miles from land when the moskva was struck.
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo 2 жыл бұрын
@@zortzsborgnine3983 The Ukrainian missiles have a range of 260 miles or so.
@ZtowhyA
@ZtowhyA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo y you're asking if you know the answer
@jakebaba2149
@jakebaba2149 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, Russia will lose more ship.
@thedirty530
@thedirty530 2 жыл бұрын
As someone from the US, that man was spot on. Great interview! I always love hearing military leadership that won't make the mistake of indulging speculation or relying on assumptions!
@ED-es2qv
@ED-es2qv 2 жыл бұрын
Speculation is an absolute necessity to be prepared for the next battle. Without it, you can only ever prepare for the last battle, and if you face an enemy with imagination and speculation (about what you will do), you will be destroyed by an embarrassing margin.
@thedirty530
@thedirty530 2 жыл бұрын
@@ED-es2qv I was struggling to find the word for it at the moment....I guess now I'd say assumptions would fit better!
@christopheroreilly3907
@christopheroreilly3907 2 жыл бұрын
@@madelynsanchez2421 ///
@gobbletegook
@gobbletegook 2 жыл бұрын
If it was just a fire...or a wayward piece of ammo...why did RUSSIA move the other ships 85 miles further out to sea? That alone should tell you something.
@burningphoenix6679
@burningphoenix6679 2 жыл бұрын
In their defense, they would have to move their ships even if it was an accident as the Moskva was the main air defense for the Black Sea fleet. If they kept their ships close to shore then They would be wide open to aerial strikes without the Moskva. The real reason they’re claiming it’s an accident though is that they won’t have to pay the families of the dead if it was an accident.
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 2 жыл бұрын
The Moskva didnt sink, it is engaged in special military underwater operation on the seabed.
@dickmojica6830
@dickmojica6830 2 жыл бұрын
Evil is a master of deception,, agree
@5ty717
@5ty717 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Pete
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 жыл бұрын
Yep the Ukrainian seabed nationalist battalion has it coming now!
@DaHitch
@DaHitch 2 жыл бұрын
To denazify Bikini Bottom.
@corryjookit7818
@corryjookit7818 2 жыл бұрын
#PetyrKowalski. I heard that too. I understand they're dredging for big mussels, but only found small shrimps.
@davidscott6375
@davidscott6375 2 жыл бұрын
The most sensible and factual interview by any military strategist I have seen since this war began. He certainly knows what he is talking about.
@ericbenjaminjr
@ericbenjaminjr 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree, but he needs better Opsec. The notification chime from his computer reveals what operating system is running. That can be important information in the wrong hands.
@jaujau6947
@jaujau6947 2 жыл бұрын
As commanding officer of the Green Howards he was nothing special. 👎
@ED-es2qv
@ED-es2qv 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the part where he said that munitions exploding inside a ship, evacuating the crew, then towing it into a storm with no power and no crew, couldn’t possibly sink a ship. That makes perfect sense. Let’s go back and prosecute all the ship captains that said their ship sunk in a storm after losing power, because that makes no sense. Let’s prosecute all the warship captains who lost a ship after they made the nonsensical claim that their own munitions exploded and sank the ship, since that can’t happen either. Making perfect sense. Now, if he would have said they were lying because they always lie, I would agree he makes sense, because they always lie.
@kitfitforpurpose470
@kitfitforpurpose470 2 жыл бұрын
He's a yes man, he was part taking capacity and capability away from the British Army.
@beefsuprem0241
@beefsuprem0241 2 жыл бұрын
He said the Russians would never invade, right up to the point they did😬
@royshaul2392
@royshaul2392 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a retired US Navy veteran he is correct its hard to believe the Moskva sunk. Modern ships are highly compartmented and have pretty good damage control capability. However, ships require constant maintenance to maintain this water tight integrity and the crew requires constant training and practice to be able to perform damage control in emergency situations. Ordnance requires special training and storage on these vessels. Given the poor performance and state of disrepair of a lot of the Russian stuff we have seen so far in this war …. it would not surprise me at all that what could have been a controllable situation quickly spiraled into events that sunk that ship. Of course nobody will ever really know the truth because …. we’re dealing with Russia.
@nobodyknows3180
@nobodyknows3180 2 жыл бұрын
That Russian supply ship that exploded and sank dockside at Berdyans'k - some people have suggested that it was not struck by any missile but suffered an uncontained fire onboard that touched off munitions. Suggested by the fact that no videos or photos available show an initial blast, but indicate a gradual billowing of smoke increasing in intensity until the munitions began cooking off.
@faithlesshound5621
@faithlesshound5621 2 жыл бұрын
Another USN veteran who had gone on board a visiting Russian warship years ago said on KZfaq that he was amazed by its LACK of watertight compartmentation and poor state of repair. Maybe the Russian Navy is as badly set up as the Army. This should be reassuring for the rest of the world. It also means that it's not pointless to be prepared to resist a Russian invasion, even for the small countries on its borders. China has a similar corporate state or kleptocracy to Russia's: its neighbours must be taking note too.
@josephfisher6745
@josephfisher6745 2 жыл бұрын
@@faithlesshound5621 I'm an irish electrician and I've seen some of the Chinese light switches if there ships are made in the same manner there definitely will be problems
@stevengrice1807
@stevengrice1807 2 жыл бұрын
Its definatly sank.
@snagletoothscott3729
@snagletoothscott3729 2 жыл бұрын
Modern western ships yes. Soviet era warships, not so much.
@owenmayes2128
@owenmayes2128 2 жыл бұрын
Russian Naval Ministry just made a statement: "The Moskva is perfectly fine, it is just working at a lower altitude."
@markharrisllb
@markharrisllb 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not questioning you but what on Earth does that mean? It’s half sunk so it’s not floating as high? If that’s the case is it not sinking?
@ralucaema3007
@ralucaema3007 2 жыл бұрын
it has a special underwater military operation
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 2 жыл бұрын
@@markharrisllb it has sunk.
@markharrisllb
@markharrisllb 2 жыл бұрын
@@badmonkey2222 That definitely passes as a "lower altitude". 😂😂
@itsnotmeitshim
@itsnotmeitshim 2 жыл бұрын
@@ralucaema3007 Brilliant!!
@bm8641
@bm8641 2 жыл бұрын
The Russian industrial prowess strikes once again. Moskva morphed into a submarine. Amazing. I wished them many more subs like this one.
@astonmartin8dude832
@astonmartin8dude832 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo!!! One of the more insightful and classic observations. Gurgle, gurgle.
@bvkronenberg6786
@bvkronenberg6786 2 жыл бұрын
The Russians say “the Ukrainian did not sink the ship, we are so incompetent we sank our ship.”
@pederp5749
@pederp5749 2 жыл бұрын
All Russian ships has been ordered to move away from the Ukrainian coast in order to avoid accidental fires...
@milkybar06
@milkybar06 2 жыл бұрын
You don't move your other ships further out to sea if it was just have a ship that sunk due to fire on board.
@PJ-SC
@PJ-SC 2 жыл бұрын
@Goseth Jones Exactly what I was thinking. If there were nuclear weapons onboard, they would definitely move everything else away from it.
@IanMcGarrett
@IanMcGarrett 2 жыл бұрын
@Goseth Jones Fear of the conventional weapons going up.
@chopperaxon6171
@chopperaxon6171 2 жыл бұрын
@Goseth Jones Nuclear weapons do not detonate "spontaneously". The sailing Orcs probably got their slide rules or Sinclair spectrums out and worked out the maximum range of the mostly missiles (Neptunes?) and moved back?
@johnr4459
@johnr4459 2 жыл бұрын
is it a fact that for the first time in history that a flag ship has been sunk by a nation that hasent really got a navy !!!
@ontheland5055
@ontheland5055 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing to talk about. The Russians hit the missile factory last night that produced the cruise missiles that struck the Moskva. Congratulations to the Ukrainians for being so patient and waiting for the right moment, but not letting the Russians know they had this capability all along.
@danielwalker5682
@danielwalker5682 2 жыл бұрын
Quality interview, interviewer, and interviewee.
@floydnotpink
@floydnotpink 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative interview. Richard Dannaatt knows his stuff. We are lucky to have such intelligent men.
@mikem9001
@mikem9001 2 жыл бұрын
He assumes that the Russians had competent damage control. We know from recent experience that the Russians are not competent at many things.
@brandstyle3639
@brandstyle3639 2 жыл бұрын
Not the much clever ship sink if get damage they lose air only take long to sink more then an hour Plus a didn’t like his confidence about Russia will take Mariupol Give no credit to Ukraine soldiers after what they achieved so far keep Russia soldiers back I do not like this old man
@mythos5809
@mythos5809 2 жыл бұрын
You may be right, but then you may not...
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandstyle3639 the Ukranian soldiers have done amazingly well, it's still doing amazingly well but if you run out of fuel, food and ammunition you have to surrender at some point.
@brandstyle3639
@brandstyle3639 2 жыл бұрын
Tom Riley no i do not agree Russia too can run out of fuel and food and surrender in some point Ukraine been receive lot weapons and help such aid medications cloth food everything they need to survive When think get more tough Others country will step In
@coronavirusisacommunistchi845
@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 2 жыл бұрын
The ship has sailed around for 40 years without any accidental fires sinking it. The Ukrainian cruise missile took this ship out
@Buckshot99
@Buckshot99 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it was a missile. But the Kursk submarine sank due to an internal explosion.
@ericjones1289
@ericjones1289 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that, the Ukrainian missile struck the Russian missiles on board. And that larger explosion is what crippled the Moskva.
@mattewj1268
@mattewj1268 2 жыл бұрын
The Russians have become increasingly more clumsy recently.
@ekremdervisoglu1473
@ekremdervisoglu1473 2 жыл бұрын
Many Russian cruisers carry more weapons than their Western counterparts and that makes them vulnerable to such attacks that has happened in Ukraine.
@kashmirha
@kashmirha 2 жыл бұрын
What attack? There was a fire. 😂🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
@angusmacfrankenstein7227
@angusmacfrankenstein7227 2 жыл бұрын
And _that’s_ what gunpowder envy gets you!
@Schlipperschlopper
@Schlipperschlopper 2 жыл бұрын
some say the cruiser had some nuclear warheads on board
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 2 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly, like with Kursk if a fire had broken out of control near a magazine or weapons handling area it could have caused a catastrophic explosion that did a lot of damage leading to sinking. I'm inclined to believe a Ukrainian missile, at least one hit, was responsible for the damage and fire, and it's probable that the fire caused even more damage. It was very telling when the Russians said they'd fully evacuated, normally a Navy crew would never do that unless the damage was so great it was the only option, as even though modern ships have some automated fire suppression you still need the crew for damage control, without the crew on board to stop it sinking the ship was doomed.
@viper_fan
@viper_fan 2 жыл бұрын
Are Putin's tables vulnerable, too? Or his hiding bunker?
@deanrolph6912
@deanrolph6912 2 жыл бұрын
If it sank due to fire, Why did all the other Russian ships in the area move further away from the Ukrainian coast, And then again what's worse the ship being sunk by the enemy or the ship was sunk by stupidity.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 жыл бұрын
They're not quite as afraid to admit their own incompetence because well what else is new?
@floydnotpink
@floydnotpink 2 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I thought and why would Putin say there would be consequences when it was an internal accident?
@rtqii
@rtqii 2 жыл бұрын
@Goseth Jones They would be inert. They would also be broken arrows that can be salvaged by the US.
@5ty717
@5ty717 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview
@terrencekane8203
@terrencekane8203 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was utterly amazing how the Moskva stopped those two Ukrainian missiles from harming any other boat.
@dersozialismussiecht4005
@dersozialismussiecht4005 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it seems that they are very considerate and caring people. (Don't let yourself be misled by my name. That's a play on words since the German verbs siegen (to be victorious) and siechen (to waste away) do sound pretty similar in certain dialects.) The Russians were also very caring in 1951 when crushing the East Berlin workers' revolt; they were very caring when in 1956 their tanks crushed the Hungarian uprising (later, Hungary's Prime Minister, Imre Nagy, was murdered by the invaders of the Warsaw Pact). The Russians were also very caring when, in 1968, Russian and Warsaw Pact tanks crushed the uprising in Prague. They also planned to be very caring when, in 1982, in Poland, people demonstrated for the Solidarnosc movement. East Berlin's communist dictator Erich Honecker, in 1989, invited the Russian to practice their by then well established kind of "special caring operations" in Leipzig and other East German cities, but luckily Michail Gorbatschev would not abide. This Michail Gorbatchev, by the way, was the only human and humane leader of Russia in the past centuries.
@thomasborgsmidt9801
@thomasborgsmidt9801 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the protection of the mines!
@murrayflewelling1258
@murrayflewelling1258 2 жыл бұрын
Before communication ended the Moskva reported it had successfully been involved in a de-nazification event !
@aronandreas
@aronandreas 2 жыл бұрын
Epic comment
@chopperaxon6171
@chopperaxon6171 2 жыл бұрын
And this ship was supposedly supplying air defence to the Russian involvement in the Syrian butchery ! laughable when it cannot defend itself against 2 basic SSMs.
@jacqdanieles
@jacqdanieles 2 жыл бұрын
Putin receives a package. It's a fish wrapped in newspaper. He asks, "what does this mean?" An aide replies: "It means Moskva sleeps with the fishes"
@angusmacfrankenstein7227
@angusmacfrankenstein7227 2 жыл бұрын
Signed, Luca Brasi!
@arselenebitara1356
@arselenebitara1356 2 жыл бұрын
LOL 😅😅😅😅 Putin: "oh good, but are you sure the fishes like its presence their though?"
@martinwelsford1353
@martinwelsford1353 2 жыл бұрын
Prego, Don Jacq. Its not personal, its business
@MartinA-vp5bt
@MartinA-vp5bt 2 жыл бұрын
The ship was apparently struck with an anti-ship Neptune cruise missile. Emphasis on "anti-ship".
@mikitadou
@mikitadou 2 жыл бұрын
Neptune missiles have turned out to be much more effective than initially believed.
@Bigdog-mg5rr
@Bigdog-mg5rr 2 жыл бұрын
Bump defence up to 3% GDP, I’d be happy knowing my taxes are being spent correctly
@damedusa5107
@damedusa5107 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure it’s necessary, Russia spends only a 1/3 more than us a year on military. Yet uk is part of NATO. The combination of arms already completely overwhelms anything Russia can do.
@floydnotpink
@floydnotpink 2 жыл бұрын
Russia got too cocky and thought that the ship was invincible. Unfortunately it wasn't. A very expensive experiment in over-confidence
@deegreeeen8612
@deegreeeen8612 2 жыл бұрын
Like a big man getting a swift kick in the knackers!
@celianorris7042
@celianorris7042 2 жыл бұрын
I think Lord Richard said it all 😁say no more. Well done Ukraine 🇺🇦 👏
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 2 жыл бұрын
The Moskva seems to have done more or less what HMS Sheffield did, burned and then sunk, the missile that hit Sheffield more or less set it on fire and destroyed the fire control systems, but did not explode, but its unspent fuel may have helped to ignite the ship. Of course, if it was not hit by a missile, why the apparent retaliation of hitting a missile factory if Moskva simply spontaneously combusted?
@teejohnston2635
@teejohnston2635 2 жыл бұрын
Pleasure to listen to this, pl bring more!
@csjrogerson2377
@csjrogerson2377 2 жыл бұрын
Damage control parties obviously not as good as they ought to be. As for the truth - never expect that from a Russian politician, the military or the press.
@jessestreet2549
@jessestreet2549 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot tories and republicans. dems ain't saints but they aren't nearly as malevolent.
@tumppu1975
@tumppu1975 2 жыл бұрын
...or their chuds on the internet. Even after kremlin admitting it sunk, some of them kept saying it's still afloat and they only say it sunk to prevent further attacks on it. Basically a self own, if you like.
@philthompson8574
@philthompson8574 2 жыл бұрын
The British and Americans always tell the truth and have never murdered anybody ever
@houm7571
@houm7571 2 жыл бұрын
given all the suffering and horrors of this war not only for the Ukrainians but also for those poor Russian conscripts who have no idea why they are fighting, the only positive that has come out of this war is revealing the serious shortcomings of the Russian military. And this will impact the future posturing of Russia and its perception of being a so-called global power. It now knows that it has a second-grade military at best and thus will be obliterated in a conventional fight against NATO. Let's hope this fact will be considered in the future calculations of the Kremlin.
@PozorUkraine
@PozorUkraine 2 жыл бұрын
The US pushed Ukraine to this war- no it’s on the US to handle the mess it created. The US should have pushed in Jan this year for peace the comedian president. Now enjoy it! Cheers 🥂
@trolltracker
@trolltracker 2 жыл бұрын
@@PozorUkraine idiotic troll
@giovanni-ed7zq
@giovanni-ed7zq 2 жыл бұрын
@@PozorUkraine there can be no peace with russia if russia takes ukrainian territory. ukraine will push russia out. russia calling up conscripts so they will not be well trained and canon fodder. the numbers of troops is equal, and ukraine is getting more and more weapons and supplies every day for free. russia cant win this war. russian pipe dream ukraine is going to negotiate a peace deal giving away territory. ukraine has the advantage in manpower and weapons the longer this goes on. it will only be a matter of time before ukraine starts getting jets. i assume ukrainians pilots are being trained on f-15 in usa and gonna be sent in with f-15 as soon as their training is complete. remember russia invaded ukraine, ukraine will not negotiate away their territory for peace. what more can russia do, they already bombed cities and executed civilians. the longer this goes on , it just means more russian soldiers die coming back to russia for russians to see how many are dying in ukraine. ukraine has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
@giovanni-ed7zq
@giovanni-ed7zq 2 жыл бұрын
@@PozorUkraine body count for russia is going to be 60-70 thousand casualties after ukraine wins this. time is on ukraines side with free weapons, men and supplies coming in daily.
@Will-he-wont-he
@Will-he-wont-he 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, Lord Dannaatt gives gives a great interview .. Thank you.
@MrRobot-dr1ln
@MrRobot-dr1ln 2 жыл бұрын
I do believe their own ammo caused the ship to sink. When a Ukrainian missile hit their ammo bay. 🤣
@angusmacfrankenstein7227
@angusmacfrankenstein7227 2 жыл бұрын
I still think that a seriously jonesing Russian sailor might have lit a cigarette in the wrong place, but hey, I’ll take it!
@morefiction3264
@morefiction3264 2 жыл бұрын
They have those great big missiles right up on deck. Great target!
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 2 жыл бұрын
The ammunition magazine should be protected against that. It is more likely that the ship was damaged below the waterline as it capsized.
@giovanni-ed7zq
@giovanni-ed7zq 2 жыл бұрын
that moskva was packed with weapons for a cruiser, it had 64 , s300 anti air launchers plus torpedo tubes and anti-ship missiles. it was basically an ammo barge. if those neptunes hit it, basically you getting alot of 2ndary cookoffs putting more big holes in that ship with munitions going off.
@cobbler40
@cobbler40 2 жыл бұрын
The Sheffield was sunk with a missile that did not explode. The Navies of the world have known the damage a single missile can do from the seventies. Very hard to defeat.
@mikemines2931
@mikemines2931 2 жыл бұрын
The Sheffield sank because the fire that ensued was carried and fed by km's of PVC wiring. That has now been rectified in the rest of the fleet.
@grahambuckerfield4640
@grahambuckerfield4640 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the warhead of the MM-39 Exocet did not explode, fire caused by unused rocket fuel. Sheffield was unlucky, it's sister ship, HMS Glasgow, detected the radar from the missile and fired chaff to present multiple radar targets. However at that time, Sheffield was using it's satellite communications which affected it's UUA-1 radar detection. Like all RN ships at the time too, the systems were optimised against the Soviet threat of then larger, diving missiles. Sheffield after burning out, was taken under tow but bad weather caused it to sink 10 days later.
@mythos5809
@mythos5809 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this after I posted mine. Agreed.
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 2 жыл бұрын
@@grahambuckerfield4640 sorry but that explanation is somewhat out of date, Sheffield did not detect the exocet however HMS Glasgow did and transmitted a "handbrake" warning of incoming missile attack, on Sheffield there was no officer in the ops room to act on it (the antiair officer had left the ops room and his assistant had also left to relieve himself). Glasgow executed antimissile measures firing chaff and turning into the missile. The officer responsible on HMS Sheffield beleived that they were outside of air launched exocet range as he had not read the intelligence briefing that included the Entendard's had an air to air refueling capability and continued to insist that it couldn't have been a missile even after being hit. Similarly sailors in breathing aparatus could not fit through the access hatches to fight the fire. Despite the board of inquiry concluding that 2 officers demonstrated negligence it was covered up at the time to "avoid damaging morale" and afterwards to avoid tarnishing the victory.
@grahambuckerfield4640
@grahambuckerfield4640 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomriley5790 Thanks Tom, admittedly the last times I looked at this was reading Capt Salt's obituary some years ago.
@MrKockabilly
@MrKockabilly 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly, I wished that damaged and abandoned ship did not sink. I'd rather see it being tugged by some Ukrainian fishermen as souvenir.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah seeing it back at the Ukrainian werft that built it would have been nice, as well as returning its original name! But ultimately one doesn't pick and choose, and having it continue to present hazard to Odessa wasn't tenable.
@PowhiroMus
@PowhiroMus 2 жыл бұрын
Just think of those very disappointed Ukrainian farmers who have equipped their farm tractors to be amphibious. The bloody ship sank too fast for them to get to it and tow it back to Odesa!
@angusmacfrankenstein7227
@angusmacfrankenstein7227 2 жыл бұрын
A future fishing amusement park! I like it!
@Shadowfax-1980
@Shadowfax-1980 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, John Deere doesn’t make tugboats.
@peterolsen9131
@peterolsen9131 2 жыл бұрын
news flash!: ukrainian scuba club has missiles and navel guns for sale, never used, slightly wet , good condition otherwise, also many shells and torpedos available tommorrow!
@rtqii
@rtqii 2 жыл бұрын
"At 1.14 a.m., the cruiser lay on its side, and after half an hour, all the electricity went out. From 2 a.m., the Turkish ship evacuated 54 sailors from the cruiser, and at about 3 a.m., Turkey and Romania reported that the ship had completely sunk. The related loss of Russian personnel is still unknown, although there were 485 crew on board (66 of them officers)," Anusauskas said.
@rtqii
@rtqii 2 жыл бұрын
There are multiple reports with this time line. Search: Turkish ship Moskva
@LeTrashPanda
@LeTrashPanda 2 жыл бұрын
📯guess we better play some Taps.....
@drmorcoch9338
@drmorcoch9338 2 жыл бұрын
that's 431/485 dead sailors. it seems most of them are trapped inside the boat. something's not right
@timothymorrow2194
@timothymorrow2194 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeTrashPanda nah...orcs dont deserve taps
@timothymorrow2194
@timothymorrow2194 2 жыл бұрын
@@drmorcoch9338 i dont know when the ship was hit but assuming it was nighttime the readiness level might not have been very high...i.e. most were asleep below decks...so nothing strange or exceptional about that
@thechancellor3715
@thechancellor3715 2 жыл бұрын
Lord Dannat's reminder that if one desires peace one must be prepared for war strikes at the heart of the problem. The primary obligation of any state government is to secure its border and defend its citizens period, full stop. The weak reed politicians in this information age sway in accord to highly vocal minority voices whose concerns are personal and not necessarily in the best interest of the nation. One of least recognized defense expenditures is the continued allocation of funds for proper maintenance of military equipment and trading cadres in peaceful lulls of history, largely invisible to citizens. No glamour to present publicly as opposed to the whizbang of new weapons announcements. Brake hoses and oil filters, tires not made in China, and other mundane pieces of kit and tools are all vitally necessary to keep the military in proper readiness. Illustrative of this need are the WWII British and American films educating the citizenry of the importance of these efforts. A good quantity of which are available on KZfaq. Lessons from the past that need repeating....lest we become enchanted with another Chamberlain waving a paper restraining order and declaring peace in our time on the news. How did that turn out?
@yokomotooto1255
@yokomotooto1255 2 жыл бұрын
UK forces uniform is made in China 😃
@grumpynerd
@grumpynerd 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the best defense you can have is good relations with your neighbors. The Germans and the French have the luxury of protecting their people by funding a proxy war in Ukraine, or at worst, having to fight in Poland. Russia, on the other hand, can't afford to put its force into one place; it's got too many enemies. In fact a lot of its military might is tied down with *internal* security.
@vladraduandrei5227
@vladraduandrei5227 2 жыл бұрын
@@grumpynerd yeah poor little russia has enemyes....man you bots are getting dumber and crazier by the day
@allencarlson6128
@allencarlson6128 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview.
@fraulotte
@fraulotte 2 жыл бұрын
I like the radio person. She is doing a good job
@liamanderson1960
@liamanderson1960 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Who is she
@fraulotte
@fraulotte 2 жыл бұрын
@@liamanderson1960 jenny kleeman
@harryvendryes
@harryvendryes 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent crisp diction. Every word perfectly formed. Nice.
@grahamthomson6969
@grahamthomson6969 2 жыл бұрын
The Times is a good newspaper but i wouldn't give Murdoch the money.
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about her hair?
@invisipics
@invisipics 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and clearly expressed interview from both sides. Thank you.
@toma9976
@toma9976 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell it was sunk by Ukraine. The Russian fleet moved further out to sea afterwards, out of range of missiles.
@paddington1670
@paddington1670 2 жыл бұрын
Out of range of fires on board apparently:D
@arthurvandeman
@arthurvandeman 2 жыл бұрын
yes, very informative. thanx 4 this👌
@gooner72
@gooner72 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever this man says, you should all take as gospel. He's held senior positions in the British Army, ISAF and NATO. 🇧🇧🇬🇧🇺🇸✌✌
@nemeczek67
@nemeczek67 2 жыл бұрын
Propagandists on Russian TV call the sinking an act of war. An accidental fire it was not.
@Madmen604
@Madmen604 2 жыл бұрын
Putin called NATO supplies to Ukraine a provocation that makes NATO countries a target. Which means an act of war. When does he plan to attack supply routes and bases then? Their precious ship was hit by NATO missile fired by Ukranian soldiers, Right?
@greyknightsrealm8251
@greyknightsrealm8251 2 жыл бұрын
Russians "We should start a war with Ukraine over this!!!" Moscow "Yes, well, err, about that."
@bluesky4845
@bluesky4845 2 жыл бұрын
Putin-" All going as planned!"...well said, thank you! 🤣🤣🤣
@bigdeku8912
@bigdeku8912 2 жыл бұрын
Pleasure to listen to this man
@tommiatkins3443
@tommiatkins3443 2 жыл бұрын
Its highly possible for a single hit to take out a large ship. Especially as the details we do know around this are presented. A impact, warhead detonation, magazine detonation. The Falklands showed us that repeatedly. Lord Richard must be having a fit of insanity.
@harryharry8122
@harryharry8122 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, God bless ukraine 🇺🇦🙏
@johnwilson1815
@johnwilson1815 2 жыл бұрын
There was also stormy weather that battered the ship allowing the sea to enter the ship which contributed to its sinking apparently.
@nattyw495
@nattyw495 2 жыл бұрын
What a great interview....
@shawnhagedorn2882
@shawnhagedorn2882 2 жыл бұрын
Dannaatt persuasively rules out a fire as being the cause. And I agree with his concluding that ship was sunk by a Ukrainian missile. But can we rule out sabotage?
@angusmacfrankenstein7227
@angusmacfrankenstein7227 2 жыл бұрын
What about simple incompetence?
@itsonlyme9938
@itsonlyme9938 2 жыл бұрын
The explosion did not cause any injuries they all got of safe ???
@jazldazl9193
@jazldazl9193 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsonlyme9938 54 survived
@ATipplingPhilosopher
@ATipplingPhilosopher 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a very close surveyor of open source intelligence on Twitter etc. That may sound a bit meh, actually it can tell you an awful lot. What is really important here is a fact that the ukrainians were claiming this missile attack some 3 hours before Russians said anything (and they also much better predicted the state the ship was in and its sinking). What would better explain that the ukrainians knew about this events far before the Russians? More over, the rest of the Russian fleet suddenly retreated further south. If it was an accidental fire, those ships would have made a beeline to helping the moszkva but instead moved further out of Ukrainian missile range. This is better explained by knowing that the ukrainians had hit the ship with missiles.
@ukie1242
@ukie1242 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsonlyme9938 - Says who, your Russian buddies?
@norm3523
@norm3523 2 жыл бұрын
Assume the opposite when the Russians speak the "truth" Russia is forgetting Ops Barbarosa..the Nazis lost due to determination of the local population and the freezing Russian winter..ukraine will win
@nerdyali4154
@nerdyali4154 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the German loss was quite that simple. They had absolutely terrible logistics. Production priorities were not made according to information from operational units. The Germans were fighting on multiple fronts and ended up having to expend huge resources and airpower in fending off strategic bombers. The Western Allies operated on the strategic level and gave Russia the space to put everything into it's local army and air forces.
@gorethegreat
@gorethegreat 2 жыл бұрын
More please!!
@joenisnapje712
@joenisnapje712 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview Lord Danasth 👍🏻
@donaldteuber8588
@donaldteuber8588 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any images.. videos or still.. of this ship actually sinking? An event this significant with no visual record is almost unbelievable .
@jrd33
@jrd33 2 жыл бұрын
The ship was sailing alone out at sea. There was no-one there to film it. It would be almost unbelievable if there were film of the attack (Ukrainian military might have film but they may not wish to reveal it).
@donaldteuber8588
@donaldteuber8588 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrd33 Military and civilian satellites observe every square inch of the earth 24/7/365. Somewhere..someone has the necessary images and information. We are experiencing events that go far deeper than most people..80-90%.. realize or would accept. They..the G.D.P. the Generally Dumb Public..are perfectly content to.." pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..just look at the pretty lights and listen to the bells and whistles ". The reality is.. Those who will not use the brains and skills they have are no better off than those who have none. They are by their own choice subject to the will and control of those who would be their masters.
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 2 жыл бұрын
Brave Ukrainian soldiers and civilians facing Golden Horde invаsion, you are all herоes, praying for your victory... SLAVA UKRAINE🙏❤🙏❤🙏 Stаy strong Ukrаine 👏💪🇺🇦🇵🇹🏳❤🏳 Бабушка - настоящая украинка! Низкий поклон. А оккупантам, хлеб с солью не обещаем, а пирожки с мышьяком - всегда пожалуйста!
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo 2 жыл бұрын
Where is this 'flagship' talk coming from? Was there an admiral on board?
@cobbler40
@cobbler40 2 жыл бұрын
A ship packed with missiles is one large ammunition magazine.
@Supergeologist
@Supergeologist 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to see what happens when a warships magazine explodes check out HMS Barham. I suspect what happened was the Moskva was hit by a missile which started a fire either directly due to the warhead and/or exacerbated by unburnt fuel. All non essential crew were evacuated while the fire teams tried to extinguish the blaze,when it became apparent they were losing the fight they too abandoned ship or were killed.
@geoffroberts1126
@geoffroberts1126 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing so organised, sounds like it went down in a few hours. The tow story is just that, a story. Two missile warheads would have done huge damage and doubtless cooked off all those tube mounted missiles on deck, perhaps a magazine somewhere. Turkish ship picked up 54 survivors. That's it. 54. Out of about 510. Russia are still not saying how many survivors because that massive a loss of personnel indicates it was in fact a missile strike and a devastating one and not this 'well, there was a fire and we evacuated and it sank being towed home'. Bilgewater. It went down in about three hours after being hit.
@Anashadk
@Anashadk 2 жыл бұрын
Remember there was a storm, so I cannot see people getting evacuated in the middle of the night in a storm with ammo exploding, it just doesn´t make sense. It makes more sense to me that only 10% of the crew got off. Just having other ships near would have crushed/drowned many of the sailors in the water.
@stevengrice1807
@stevengrice1807 2 жыл бұрын
I heard it sank quickly (within 30 mins). Only 56 sailers saved so far.
@geoffroberts1126
@geoffroberts1126 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevengrice1807 According to Turkish sources, a Turkish ship (warship presumably) heard a Mayday around 1am and rescued 54 personnel, power on the Moskva failed about half an hour after the impact, listing to port, sank around 0300. There was no tow, she went down where she stopped.
@richardcory5024
@richardcory5024 2 жыл бұрын
One assumes that they are because they are striking Kyiv in retaliation.
@HannuKaleviElo
@HannuKaleviElo 2 жыл бұрын
Thats Great!!!
@EduardoSilva-dm3gl
@EduardoSilva-dm3gl 2 жыл бұрын
As an American who was born in Odessa this prognosis makes me shiver.
@rodneycooperLMSCoach
@rodneycooperLMSCoach 2 жыл бұрын
The opposition they faced in Syria was a lot less effective than they experience in Ukraine. By comparison Syria was a cake walk and this is why the Russians were so confident.
@JediJide2
@JediJide2 2 жыл бұрын
The Syrian rebels were literally sitting ducks.
@gregparrott
@gregparrott 2 жыл бұрын
As others have said, it is one thing to TAKE a city (such as Mariupol), it's another to HOLD it. I hope the Ukrainians can somehow punch a line into Mariupol long enough to resupply and re-arm it, and prevent it from being taken. But even if Russia does take possession, I very much doubt Ukraine will agree to cede Mariupol in any peace agreement.
@maxfrere4871
@maxfrere4871 2 жыл бұрын
Love lord Richard dannett
@cindyd.5507
@cindyd.5507 2 жыл бұрын
Great news!
@duckcensorship7446
@duckcensorship7446 2 жыл бұрын
Putler likes the fishies so much he commisioned a brand new artificial Reef for them! We can call it the Moscow Reef or maybe the Orc Reef!
@IanMcGarrett
@IanMcGarrett 2 жыл бұрын
Beau of the fifth column has dubbed it the Snake Island Memorial Reef.
@ozzierabbit587
@ozzierabbit587 2 жыл бұрын
The Russian gov't usually denies anything negative that they either experience or cause, so it would be consistent that they are also lying in this case.
@long_view
@long_view 2 жыл бұрын
In the event of a shipboard fire in the vicinity of a magazine, or likely to spread there, warships can flood the affected magazine to prevent the ammunition 'cooking off'. The ship's stability can, if necessary, then be stabilised by counter flooding other compartments. On the other hand, a missile or shell hit can not only damage or destroy firefighting equipment, but will also cause the ship's ammunition to explode if the magazine takes a direct hit. This makes the latter scenario far more likely in the Moskva's case.
@fredrikh9299
@fredrikh9299 2 жыл бұрын
It's so satisfying seeing the arrows of war hitting the heart of it's creators.
@guyvert49
@guyvert49 2 жыл бұрын
why attack the factory making the missiles, if they were not used to sink the ship?
@RA-el6zj
@RA-el6zj 2 жыл бұрын
You know, just in case they will try something in the future!
@Trident023
@Trident023 2 жыл бұрын
Was Putlers mouth moving…? If so, you can be pretty sure he was lying.
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 жыл бұрын
I think one way to get an accurate study that will provide for the future of the military, the people conducting the study have to be in the field when the shooting starts. I think you'll see more realistic numbers once they realize they've just been drafted.
@Tomm9y
@Tomm9y 2 жыл бұрын
Lord Dannaatt is correct about the funding of the armed forces. Having seen the grotesque waste of money demanded by the legal industry, the justice system, tax deals for multinationals, etc. our priorities should be very different. The priorities of decades of government have been wrong.
@aubreythomas6512
@aubreythomas6512 2 жыл бұрын
A bully does not stop. One must go on offense to stop being attacked. Not is the time for nato to send in UAVs and minimal troops for coordination of troops.
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 2 жыл бұрын
A: hit by Ukrainian missile attack B: sunk by Russian incompetence. C: it was Aliens. D: Moskva, not " Moskova"
@isabellahat146
@isabellahat146 2 жыл бұрын
D: pronounced "Maskva" stress on last syllable
@salmacuppini6772
@salmacuppini6772 2 жыл бұрын
Hvat's the driference Moskva or Moskova🤔🤣😂
@Longtack55
@Longtack55 2 жыл бұрын
@@isabellahat146 Thank you. Q:When Is a bell a hat? A:When it is a cloche. Nyuk nyuk.
@michaelwiener477
@michaelwiener477 2 жыл бұрын
Aliens !
@toma9976
@toma9976 2 жыл бұрын
The Russian general had experience in Syria. True, butchering a lot of Syrian women and children. This time he faces hardened troops who are being armed and trained by over 40 countries.
@Supergeologist
@Supergeologist 2 жыл бұрын
Did Putin cry out 'You sunk my battleship!'.
@tonymccann1978
@tonymccann1978 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily true, depends where the fire is, depends on whether the fire detection was working and whether every compartment on the ship has active fire suppression. Unmanned machinery spaces with fuel lines on lower decks could cause it to sink if the fire was left unattended, e.g. pool fire or VCE. The ship was laid down in 1979 (in Ukraine), so it is older hardware. That said, I still think Ukraine sank it, but the general’s analysis is flawed; too much faith that equipment and procedure work all the time and that the ship is well maintained and operated correctly.
@wessexdruid7598
@wessexdruid7598 2 жыл бұрын
Surely the point is, as the Black Sea fleet flagship, it should have been protected from fire - if the Russian Armed Forces hadn't been hollowed out from corruption; and if this wasn't a missile attack, as Russia is trying to say. (The strike on the missile factory in Kyiv speaks to otherwise, though.)
@snagletoothscott3729
@snagletoothscott3729 2 жыл бұрын
I question whether the Ukrainians sank it....but wouldn't be surprised at all if this fire wasn't started by something the Ukrainians did, and aging Soviet hardware combined with decades of poor maintenance and ill-trained crew is actually the reason it sunk.
@tonymccann1978
@tonymccann1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@wessexdruid7598 point I was really making is that the General’s analysis was lacking. There are too many factors to consider, all of which look bad for Russia, even if Ukraine didn’t sink it. From a lack of Phalanx CIWS equivalent to poor procedures and planning, there’s no good angle here for the Russians. That said though, never underestimate incompetence. I don’t see corruption having a big role here, despite how rife it is in Russia
@tonymccann1978
@tonymccann1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@snagletoothscott3729 very difficult to get onboard to start a fire, even on old hardware. The ship would have duty shifts and guards posted plus surveillance; for the Ukrainians to get onboard and start a fire would require a lot of failures of duty/procedure/surveillance, not to mention failure of fire fighting. Missile attack is the most likely scenario. It should also be considered though that a ship that age in heavy combat is way more likely to suffer accidental damage, given how many missiles it would have launched. Each launch at sea stresses the launcher, and repeated use could easily result in catastrophic failure, especially if not maintained well due to high combat load.
@wessexdruid7598
@wessexdruid7598 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonymccann1978 In addition to it's medium & short-range air defence layers, Moskva had six CIWS positions, capable of a 5,000 rpm 'wall of lead'. Corruption means that things which are supposed to be there, aren't, because they've been sold or corners cut, for bribes. (Like those T-72s found with blocks of clay, instead of live ERA packs.) But no, I don't discount incompetence - too much of it has already been demonstrated.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
The Asia/Pacific tilt always looked like pie in the sky based on a denial of geography. The UK is a European country, our prime exposure to Russia is via the Arctic seas and the Baltic region. If Russia is not utterly defeated in Ukraine, we must expect new proxy wars in places like the Balkans combined with repetition of interference attempts in elections as occurred in 2016.
@guycalgary7800
@guycalgary7800 2 жыл бұрын
You mean in 2020, when they installed thier puppet Biden !
@thedirty530
@thedirty530 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and we must be prepared for all eventualities...We certainty wont forget the division that causes us any time soon!
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedirty530 People are wising up a bit to propaganda, Russia undermines itself. One day Russia sent the wrong bots to a channel, so a European English language news got the Trumptard bots spewing out totally irrelevant stuff rather than the wedge issue attempts they use in Europe. Everyone who saw that is going to realise where most trolls come from.
@lolbots
@lolbots 2 жыл бұрын
2016 was a hoax, don't be silly
@nerdyali4154
@nerdyali4154 2 жыл бұрын
The Russian interference in the elections was miniscule. The consequence was the attempt by a certain political party to try to use whatever interference there was, and the jury is still out about whether some of the hacking attempts claimed ever happened, to try to smear their opponents. The West is now open to Russian lies and half-truths because of the justified mistrust in the blatantly lying Western corporate media. The media make me laugh with their hype about threats to democracy when nobody has had a more corrupt influence on the democratic process than them.
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, none of the British ships hit by Exocet missiles was sunk by the weapons. They were trashed and put out of use but the wrecks were scuttled by their crews.
@keithkrick234
@keithkrick234 2 жыл бұрын
You don't remember correctly. Both ships sank under tow while attempting salvage.
@zopEnglandzip
@zopEnglandzip 2 жыл бұрын
Atlantic conveyor was sunk by a hit but was a merchant, the warships are of obviously different construction and it's the secondary effects that sink them as with Sheffield, she wasn't scuttled but sank under tow after being gutted by fire. God blessm.
@epincion
@epincion 2 жыл бұрын
The missiles started fires which could not be put out. So they did sink the ship
@IanMcGarrett
@IanMcGarrett 2 жыл бұрын
The Sheffield was hit by an Exocet and it sank. Coincidence?
@cherubycarilla7523
@cherubycarilla7523 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they said because of a fire the ordinance was detonated, not that it sunk because of a fire?
@salmacuppini6772
@salmacuppini6772 2 жыл бұрын
GLORY to🇺🇦
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 2 жыл бұрын
Brave Ukrainian soldiers and civilians facing Golden Horde invаsion, you are all herоes, praying for your victory... SLAVA UKRAINE🙏❤🙏❤🙏 Stаy strong Ukrаine 👏💪🇺🇦🇵🇹🏳❤🏳Украинцы просят солдафонов Орды🐕💩🇷🇺, сосредоточенных у границ с Украиной, на всякий случай положить в карманы семена плодовых деревьев, чтоб это все обрело хоть какой-то смысл. *кроме танкистов. Тут все бессмысленно.
@athopi
@athopi 2 жыл бұрын
Good sound engineering.
@davidchamberlain5425
@davidchamberlain5425 2 жыл бұрын
Missile!!👍
@jayrowe6473
@jayrowe6473 2 жыл бұрын
"The Moskva is currently undergoing an unplanned submarine conversion with the assistance of the Ukranians."
@ajarnold8444
@ajarnold8444 2 жыл бұрын
Rough seas in the black Sea.? Highly unlikely to be powerful enough to harm a ship that size 🤡
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 жыл бұрын
The ship has been all over the oceans... Black sea is small and has boundaries on all sides, it's spectacularly calm in comparison.
@ajarnold8444
@ajarnold8444 2 жыл бұрын
@@SianaGearz Very true
@ak203
@ak203 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, mlorale is important but this focus on it seems quite misplaced. Firepower and volume can greatly hinder morale. Morale does not protect you from a missile or artillery shells.
@slartybartfarst9737
@slartybartfarst9737 2 жыл бұрын
Richard Dannaatt, common sense appraisal of our position in this conflict, wise words and yes our government should act to change the funding of our armed forces specifically the army such that we can prepare for land wars to negate those wars, our futures are 3%+ of GDP on defence.
@mariepearson2290
@mariepearson2290 2 жыл бұрын
The sinking was an insurance job.
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 2 жыл бұрын
Lol i doubt warships are insurable...
@DJ_Patent
@DJ_Patent 2 жыл бұрын
Lie? No way. Everything is going according to plan.
@jessestreet2549
@jessestreet2549 2 жыл бұрын
yep, that 4D chess thing.
@peterlamere1982
@peterlamere1982 2 жыл бұрын
It was struck by two cruise missiles causing the amo stored on board too explode condeming the ship.
@flyingplantwhale545
@flyingplantwhale545 2 жыл бұрын
Are Russians lying about.. ? Didn’t have to continue the question. The answer will always be Yes.
@bluesky90010
@bluesky90010 2 жыл бұрын
Incompetence in Russia is s big thing especially in the army Ok its leaders
@DavidGetling
@DavidGetling 2 жыл бұрын
It's what you get promoted for.
@N17C1
@N17C1 2 жыл бұрын
The Russia army has been devastated and will take years to recover
@rtqii
@rtqii 2 жыл бұрын
It needs to be completely destroyed, and so far I can count on the Russians to get the job done.
@RA-el6zj
@RA-el6zj 2 жыл бұрын
@@rtqii And what's good then? Nato taking over the world freeing the path to install a new world order? Also completely destroying the Russian army is delusional, since they will resort to using nuclear weapons if they have no other options left. And they happen to have the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world.
@joelrunyan1608
@joelrunyan1608 2 жыл бұрын
Well. Step 1 tho. Let's never assume that Russian ships actually have effective fire / damage control... which is damaging. But. Wouldn't be surprising.
@DukeOfTwist
@DukeOfTwist 2 жыл бұрын
Russian Naval Ministry have stated they've converted the 'Moskva' has just been converted to a Special Naval Operations Submarine.
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