Are The Spyderco Paramilitary 2 & Para 3 Really Worth Buying?

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In this video we go over the Spyderco Para 3 & Paramilitary 2
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@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 10 ай бұрын
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@sobxscooter8157
@sobxscooter8157 Жыл бұрын
I held out on Spydercos for the longest time. Then, the Para 3 came into my life. Now, I own more than any manufacturer. There are so many options 🤗🍻✌️
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
😂😂 that's how it happens man! Spyderco gets that hook in ya lmao 😂 thanks brother
@lnz971
@lnz971 6 ай бұрын
that's sad...
@WhatsthePOINT_EDC
@WhatsthePOINT_EDC Жыл бұрын
I think both are very good options. My first and only Spyderco so far is a Manix 2 Lightweight with SPY-27 steel. I love it. 🔥🔪
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
I need some spy 27 !! Spyderco has an awesome selection of steels. I love that
@DrDrewdude
@DrDrewdude Жыл бұрын
That’s a para knives 🤙
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
Thank you my brother 🤜💥
@dn2610
@dn2610 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video and review! Have both the PM 2's and Para 3's in various steels, they're both great EDC knives. Thanks for sharing, subbed! 👍
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
Hell yeah 🤜💥 2 of the best EDC knives in the game for sure! Thanks brother
@jeffreydawson4520
@jeffreydawson4520 Жыл бұрын
I love both the PM2 and Para 3 and own several versions of each but the Para 3 finds its way into my pocket more than the PM2. If you can get one of each in hand, figure out which feels best and get that one is my go to advice. The best part is, you can’t really go wrong with either one.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
I agree Jeff, I would say 9/10 people if taking the gamble on picking one up with out ever holding it or seeing it in person will like it. I bought my first and only ever saw it in a video. The main draw was the steel, heat treat and edge. All about that steel for me. Thanks brother 🤜
@tiddybagel
@tiddybagel 10 ай бұрын
The Sage 5 is better than both
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 10 ай бұрын
@@tiddybagel I haven't tried that one yet but idk if that would be the case for me, I do like the blade on the sage though 🤜💥 I'll have to snag one at some point
@Orange-yp9bl
@Orange-yp9bl Жыл бұрын
I don't have a collection . But Purchase PM3 . The cameo with G10. 45V ... solid EDC pocket knife ...
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
thats a great first choice or first couple of choices! cant go wrong with spyderco at all, especially when you get in to the mid to higher end stuff! Thanks orange i appreciate it
@MrFlyrod7
@MrFlyrod7 2 ай бұрын
When I first saw a Spiderco I thought they were really ugly. Then I purchased a Spyderco para3 exclusive because I liked the colors. After this, you might say it was a love affair with Spyderco. Recently, I visited Spyderco out in Golden Colorado. What an amazing trip. The staff out there are warm and genuine and believe in the product. I hope to go back there soon. Now I have six Spyderco knives, hoping to add the PM2 to my collection. Purchased a dragonfly pink for my wife recently and I wasn’t sure if she would use it. The other day, getting the keys out of her purse and saw that that knife is in the pocket of her purse and she uses it. They are functional and great working knives for different Occasions and activities. All of mine, but the exception of one, are in my pocket and being used. You can’t go wrong with a Spyderco.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Ай бұрын
I think that's how it goes for a lot of people 😂 you wonder what makes them so good. Finally take the chance on one. Then fall in a hole lmao 🤣
@mikecurtis2585
@mikecurtis2585 Жыл бұрын
Great looking knives! Don't own that brand yet!!!
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike 🤜🤙
@brandnewamerican
@brandnewamerican Жыл бұрын
Great edc, love em both. Pm2 rides with me a lot. The dlc on my blade looks like patina, it’s so worn you can see through it, the pm2 is my workhorse of choice.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
You'll have to send me some photos of that bad boy. Is it all the way through to the steel? I've saw some coatings where you could see some steel but it was because of running it in to something crazy 😂 one that I'm close with is the Kizer genie & that coating, still not through it just yet-- under normal use
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother 🙏🏻
@nickGEdc
@nickGEdc Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Spyderco man I have multiple para 3 exclusives and a few pm2s a lil native and I’m hoping to snag a subvert! I want one so baddd
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
The subvert does look sick! There's def a few more Spydercos I want as well
@JROTCBALL
@JROTCBALL 6 ай бұрын
My first spyderco was a south paw pm2, loved the heck out of it n now I have a warrencliff one, Emerson opener in Elmax n a pm3 that I highly customized
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 6 ай бұрын
That is awesome 💯😎 def some of my favorites. Spyderco does it right, hate them or love them
@LanningKann
@LanningKann Ай бұрын
I keep a PM2 Magnacut in my plate carrier as a duty knife. I carry a Para 3 (the new SPY27) in my pocket on and off duty. They are similar enough that the smaller size Para 3 just works better in the pocket than the PM2. I have a couple of full sized Military 2s as well. One in S30 and the other in CruWear. Those are my favs of the bunch and I carry them hiking or camping, or if I feel I’ll need the extra blade length. I’ve carried a Military series knife since 2001. I don’t think you can beat them regardless of the size you pick. The bushing pivot setup gives them the best action. It’s like they are on bearings. They are simple to maintain, easy to sharpen, have enough variations out there to suit anyone’s wishes, are pretty much bomb proof (except those tips), and have that signature look that is all business. The design aesthetic is all bauhaus. What’s not to love?
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Ай бұрын
Spyderco is extremely hard to beat, fantastic knives
@zero_tolerance245
@zero_tolerance245 6 ай бұрын
I have a question after I watched the video, I hope you can answer me GBall_Vision! Why all the Spyderco knives are so smooth when they are not on bearings just the contrary on bronze washers?Maybe only my Ontario Rat1 openssa smoothly on bronze washers and drop shutdown like knife on bearings.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 6 ай бұрын
My guess is and it's just a guess but they may have them polished or do the polishing themselves. I've noticed with mine they are tight but smooth and then break in to be very smooth. Spyderco and TRM have the best washer knives in the game. It must have to do with the quality and finishing of the washers. Thanks brother 🤜🏻💥 hope that helps
@yankee2yankee216
@yankee2yankee216 6 ай бұрын
The bearings are of course phosphor bronze, an alloy noted for its extremely low coefficient of friction, but the snappy, smooth, drop down action is still amazing. So amazing I think, that I have way too many of them! There are other knives as good, or even better, but those usually cost quite a bit more (PM2s and P3S top out about $250). Paramilitary 2s and Para 3s should be all any man (or woman) will ever need.
@DuhYaThink
@DuhYaThink Жыл бұрын
Pm2 brown with s35vn was my first Spyderco. Bought a second one of the same version. Now🙈 I’m around 120 deep in Spyderco knives. Like almost all models,excluding China models. Don’t have any. Can’t go wrong with a para3 or pm2. Or Shaman,sage 5,yojimbo2 or yojumbo. Natives,g10,c/f or lw’s. Lots of great steels too choose from.👍🏻🇺🇸
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
prime example of falling in the hole and never getting out lmao, thats alright though it happens to the best of us, i bought about 30 of them within 6-9 months and then somehow climbed out of the hole for awhile. spyderco is a good one to ride with though. Thank you broseph! I appreciate it
@DuhYaThink
@DuhYaThink Жыл бұрын
@@GBall_Vision I’ve been better lately. Last 2 years I’ve bought 100 Spyderco knives.🙈 This year I think around 6 or so. A green g10 manix 2 20cv knife joy exclusive is coming out 7/13 and besides the satin rec para3 10v I think I’m done for awhile. Got the dlc rec para 3 might as well get the satin.🤣 yeah it’s tough . Happy 4th Bud 🇺🇸🫡
@georgespicer907
@georgespicer907 3 ай бұрын
I wanted one forever but have been waiting for a combination good steel and scales. So I just got the new PM2 textured G10 with magnacut and it's awesome. I usually buy more Benchmade than Spyderco because I get tired of FRN or flat G10, and the exotic Spyderco sell so fast, but this one is perfection. Recommend to everyone
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah man that's awesome, I want some spyderco magnacut. I have quite a bit but none from them. There's a ton of aftermarket for spyderco with scales nowadays
@JAY15743006
@JAY15743006 Ай бұрын
I went through this exact dilemma for over an hour in a local knife shop today! The ONLY reason I went with the para 2 is because of how well it married to my hand and today I wanted a more "full size" folder with a full handed grip (without the front choil). However I will be most definitely acquiring a para 3 asap because of how difficult of a decision it was.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Ай бұрын
Seriously one of the best 1-2 punches ever. Those 2 knives are amazing 🤩 thanks brother happy hunting
@CrispyCritter04
@CrispyCritter04 Жыл бұрын
Perdy girls brother..the green n black is growing on me
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah thank you brother 🤜
@wills.8662
@wills.8662 Жыл бұрын
Could also depends on local knife laws. some counties restrict a blade length and in those situations the Para3 is probably the pick.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
def a good point on that aspect, thank you brother man! I appreciate it buddy
@silverfelix
@silverfelix 3 ай бұрын
Have several para 2. Recently got my first para 3. Carry on a rotation with other knives. But, some of the PM2s are becoming my go to.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah man 😎 it's easy to make a pm2 a primary they are such good comfortable knives. I've had my fair share of them. I've kept 3, I have one of each blade shape and that's it now and I'm down to just 1 para 3 too I've had a bunch of both
@markm592
@markm592 10 ай бұрын
Good video, sir. Im on the fence now between the PM2 and the Yojimbo 2. I love the look of that Yojimbo, but man the Para 2 is like their flagship knife
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 10 ай бұрын
I would say it depends on your intended use. Self defense yojimbo EDC work etc pm2. Especially the wharny version if it's in stock. Thanks man!!
@RoosterGardens
@RoosterGardens 5 ай бұрын
I only ever had one Spyderco, a stainless Delica that a friend of mine turned me onto about ten years ago, and has been my EDC ever since. I went looking for a replacement EDC, just because, and I now own 7 Spyderco, along with a few Byrd and other brands, from that search. I wanted to like the Manix 2 in S30V, and I do, it's just big, so I tricked it out with some Titanium hardware. The PM2 in S45V came next. It too is large, but the compression lock tab pinches my finger every time I flick it open. The Native 5 in S110V is really pretty in the Blurble, and feels great in the hand, but the thickness of the scales, location of the thumbhole, and the nature of the lockback make it the hardest of the group to open. I picked up a cheap Tenacious in Chinesium, and it quickly became my favorite. So much so, I got another one in CPM-M4. That will probably be my new EDC. I'm not the fidget type, but I like the compression lock, and will eventually get a Para 3 to add to the collection. Maybe, being smaller, it won't pinch me, Lol.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 5 ай бұрын
Try and mess around with various grips when it comes to those compression locks, they can be a little tricky at first, but I think if you kind of mess with different grips and that type of thing you'll find a little looser of a grip on the knife and leaving that pointer finger kind of off which might feel kind of awkward at first, but eventually will become second nature. Kind of resting it on the pivot If you will, when I pick up a Spyderco my hand naturally does it now
@user-te4hv6dz8e
@user-te4hv6dz8e 9 ай бұрын
Expensive knife but after I got it. Put it in my hand and used it a few times ( Is worth every penny) Best pocket knife i've ever owned
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 9 ай бұрын
That's one thing I always say, people will dislike them for whatever reason until the day they try one, then they realize how comfortable and how well they cut 😂 and their heat treats are on point 🤜💥
@cheatobandito
@cheatobandito Жыл бұрын
Have a Para 2 need to check out the 3.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
Oh hell yeah man. Snag a 3 bro. They're sick
@Arsenal125Foward
@Arsenal125Foward 11 ай бұрын
where did you get that green pm2?
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
That is an old knife joy exclusive. Last I new they had para 3s like it
@markjg2275
@markjg2275 9 ай бұрын
I have the Spyderco Para 2 Cruwear micarta and I like it very much, The Para 3 blade is too short for me the Para 2 is just right for many cutting chores and food prep. The Para 2 is an excellent choice for daily carry and can even be used in self-defense if needed.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 9 ай бұрын
Agreed on all accounts, the para 3 to me is like that knife that makes a good secondary that you can slide in small pockets or pouches, still do most jobs but I prefer the size of the pm2 as well brother 🤜💥 good choice man
@danofiremano
@danofiremano 11 ай бұрын
Both are great knives, but for a Noob into the knife world, even the Delica 4 would be a great place to start (keeping price in mind).
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
Agreed 💯💯 the issue is usually because of aesthetics it takes people time to find out how good SPYDERCO really is and why, luckily I found them early in my collection days, unlucky for my wallet though 😆 thanks brother
@knifelore1647
@knifelore1647 Жыл бұрын
I would say you can't go wrong with either! Both are fantastic an beat buying an overpriced BM any day of the week! I own 11, an have zero complaint! The Amalgam being my fav! An number one carry!
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
I agree brother. Both will be well made with a great blade. I've actually never had a QC issue with any I've had either! Pretty outstanding. Thanks man 🙏🏻
@jkn2k
@jkn2k Ай бұрын
I've have been collecting Spydercos until I got the cold steel ad-10.... I feel like it is the ultimate folding knife.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 23 күн бұрын
I can't argue with that. Except maybe the AD20 😂 both are amazing
@mikereese15
@mikereese15 Жыл бұрын
You're not the boss of me!
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
Do it Mikey ! Do it 😁😅
@cursed_earth_edc
@cursed_earth_edc Жыл бұрын
Get a para 3 for small… and shaman for large.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
I need to snag a shaman it's always eluding me 😂 thanks Nick
@cursed_earth_edc
@cursed_earth_edc Жыл бұрын
@@GBall_Vision Yep, definitely something to try out at some point!
@stevenlachance8576
@stevenlachance8576 23 күн бұрын
What I like about Spyderco: the steels, the usefulness and ergonomics . I applaud their collaborations and willingness to do things like the dodo. Salt series. Dislikes: limited sprint runs in new steels, DETENTS esp in titanium knives with Reeve lock, rare use of titanium, warranty, inability to buy parts even screws. Not keen on blade to handle ratios. 8cr18mov steel anywhere in a Spyderco branded knifesteel how about 154cm instead? Wishes: Axls -locks start with sage 6, button compression locks. Sprint runs minimum 1500, 3000 in Hot steels 15v. Additional spokesmen Eric G and Michael J are great how about shawn Houston as a steel evangelist.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 19 күн бұрын
Great info and observations brother. I agree 💯💯
@philclodfelter5994
@philclodfelter5994 9 ай бұрын
Both, I prefer the Para2 & it was my first Spyderco Knife & now I have 4 Spyderco Knives
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 9 ай бұрын
Great choices can't go wrong with either one brother, they make an awesome 1-2 punch in my opinion. Thanks brother
@HellGatefr2
@HellGatefr2 11 ай бұрын
I loved my Para 3 LW until I got a Chaparral... This little beast should not be underestimated !
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
I will have to check one of those out! That's one I don't have 🤜💥
@ericsierra-franco7802
@ericsierra-franco7802 5 ай бұрын
You should get a Manix 2 XL!
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 5 ай бұрын
It's on my long lonnng list of knives I want to get 😂 thanks brother 🤜🏻💥
@murdergorilla4087
@murdergorilla4087 11 ай бұрын
Love em both have pm3 lw and many many pm2 probably my favorite knife aesthetically. But I still usually carry a hogue doug Ritter rsk-mk1 g2 in 20cv cause I use the tip of my knives a lot. I need a tanto pm2
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
The pm2 tanto is sick. So is the wharny. And the Hogue Ritter is an all time great too. Thanks brother 🤜💥🤜💥
@ashleyempie1418
@ashleyempie1418 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤
@yankee2yankee216
@yankee2yankee216 6 ай бұрын
We don’t need Spyderco CS, not so much because Spydercos never go wrong, but because spare parts are so readily available. I always returned defective knives, which are rare, immediately, and have never failed to get my money back. I LOVE the fact that I can take them apart, for tuning, customization, etc., and if I break or lose something, parts are easy to get! And I love the fact that there are so many excellent aftermarket scales and other parts, to make my knives almost “as unique as I am…” Paramilitary 2s and Para 3s are, in fact, an entire world unto themselves… They are “my kind of knife.”
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 5 ай бұрын
Your right in a lot of sense but at the same time it would just be nice if they backed their customers. I love spyderco. Id love them ever more if they treated their customers well. I've heard time and time again how they treat customers. I fully disagree with it. Customer service is a big deal to many
@zero_tolerance245
@zero_tolerance245 6 ай бұрын
Man I honestly prefer the Military over the Paramilitary 2 & 3, the biggest one,haha. I have Paramilitary 2 maybe 7 years ago, use it 1 year and then sell it almost like a new. The reason I sell it is because popularized a lot and you know man....
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 6 ай бұрын
The regular military is on my list. I may try one in s110v or something - not sure yet though. Thanks brother
@jeremyspaulding7735
@jeremyspaulding7735 Жыл бұрын
I do love my pm2. I hope to find a tanto one day. Great video brother 👍
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
They drop randomly and not very often. Back when I bought mine I really didn't no that I was getting such an elusive knife. Id like to of got the m4 variant
@beeferbaron
@beeferbaron Жыл бұрын
Para 2 baby
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
Hell yes I love the pm2 man and all three blade shapes
@tommyboy8341
@tommyboy8341 6 ай бұрын
I want pm2 so bad
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 6 ай бұрын
🤜🏻💥💯
@Dopey6621
@Dopey6621 Жыл бұрын
I checked out probably 20 different Spydercos at Blade Show and they just aren't for me. I guess im just a weirdo but i am not at all a fan.
@DrDrewdude
@DrDrewdude Жыл бұрын
Nah Dopey, everyone doesn’t have to like them. 🤙
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
You def a weird MF but not cause of the Spydercos 😂 I feel you brother, it's okay to have your preferences and them not always align with others. The thing that really attracts me to them is the steels they use & how well they treat the steels. That's the main draw for me
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
@@DrDrewdude 💯💯💯
@Dissentient01
@Dissentient01 Жыл бұрын
lol, damn.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
😂 thanks brother 😁
@LemmyGitdat
@LemmyGitdat Жыл бұрын
a damn comment
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
Lemmy thank you damn it 😂
@ashleyempie1418
@ashleyempie1418 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊
@ericdpeerik3928
@ericdpeerik3928 6 ай бұрын
"you need at least one" Why though? What will I miss if I don't get one?
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 6 ай бұрын
You don't have to get one. But These are quality knives, some of the best and most utilitarian of all pocket knives all time. They focus on function, Great steel options, great heat treats, amazing factory edges, strong lock up, great ergonomics, easy to carry and fun to carry. Hard to say that about most, the idea is if you want great quality and to experience it. Get one
@wgkincheloe2458
@wgkincheloe2458 11 ай бұрын
Always thought they were ugly and over priced.... Until I got a PM2. Now my wishlist has almost a dozen Spyderco knives, from Smock to Delica wharnie in K390.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
That's how it goes 😂 you wonder what the big deal is until you get one 😆😆
@heyman1501
@heyman1501 Жыл бұрын
For me the PM 2 for the win. Para 3 is just to small.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
I love the pm2 too man. Such a beast of a knife thanks brother 🤜💥
@DASON2216
@DASON2216 Жыл бұрын
Both are icons. Para is more nice for edc.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
Hell yeah man. I love them they're a phenomenal one two punch 🤜💥
@jonathanrowan4802
@jonathanrowan4802 Жыл бұрын
Anyone that’s a knife enthusiast should learn how to sharpen your knife. I have always used wet stones or diamond stones. No matter the edge they come with mine is better. Polished edges don’t last as long as toothy edges but are sharper. But anyway yeah get an old timer and a diamond stone and get used to sharpening your tools. I wouldn’t learn on a high end knife either unless you like scratches on your blade.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Жыл бұрын
i agree, within circumstance, i think it should be something that is learned over the course of time for sure, me personally i will sharpen certain knives, other knives i will have someone else do
@user-zy8hc6py9u
@user-zy8hc6py9u 10 ай бұрын
The Military version is the only knife worth the high pricetag with a needed 4" blade. Rather purchase a Benchmade AFO 2 auto and no minis
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 10 ай бұрын
Imo Folding Knives have a place, all sizes and styles, from small to big and thin and slicey to thick Beasty blades. Fixed Blades have a great place as well
@ground_and_pound
@ground_and_pound 7 ай бұрын
Had a 20CV PM2, chip so easy, dont stab with him, will crack so easy. Not wort that money.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 7 ай бұрын
Well 20cv isn't the toughest steel. It's more for cutting long term and slicing. That what I use mine for. If I have stabbing to do and I'm picking a spyderco. It'll be the S30V tanto pm2 or the cruwear para 3 or my m4 smock. You want to try and use the steels to their pros brother
@user-rv7qz2io4k
@user-rv7qz2io4k Ай бұрын
NO knife is worth paying over $100 for.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision Ай бұрын
I wouldn't say that. I won't tell you what to do with your money, it depends on what you want
@nikolozgabedava6934
@nikolozgabedava6934 9 ай бұрын
Video is too long and there is no CUT in-between. I got bored.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your input brother, I don't do any cuts or edits but I will try and keep them shorter, sometimes I have trouble shutting up 🤣
@tylerreis7627
@tylerreis7627 11 ай бұрын
Compression lock is not a liner lock in the slightest, mechanically it is entirely different
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 11 ай бұрын
It's literally a reverse liner lock brother. Instead of the liner hitting on the bottom of the tang the top liner hits the top of the tang. And there's a stop pin. Still a reverse liner lock but still an incredible lock
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