You can do the gap jump in 150cc too I just suck, make fun of me here gamers…….

I think their philosophy when it comes to snes and gba courses is actually purposely different. It seems to me like they want to keep the snes courses flat to make them seem like theyre from the first mario kart, while changing up the gba courses to help them reach their full potential since they were held back so much by the hardware they were on. Just my take on it though

I think the reason Mario Circuit 3 is flat like the Wii remake is because it IS the Wii remake, ported and touched upon a bit for Tour and then brought over from Tour to the Booster Pass. I also don't mind it being more flat. It actually would make the SNES tracks more distinct from the rest (especially Super Circuit).

12:55 these ‘buildings’ are the opera house and the famous Circular quay ferries, along with many other recognizable buildings and areas so Sydney sprint is so much cooler to me an aussie

The mushroom gorge gap jump can actually can be done on 150cc!

Visually these tracks are by far improved, but one thing that disappointed me was the music, there was barely any live big band remixes, the brand new song wasn’t even that good either... but I will say Sydney sprint is one of the best songs out of both waves!! But overall wave one had a lot better music

The main thing I like about wave 2 is that there are so many shortcuts. MKWii was famous for having very well placed shortcuts that were very difficult and all had an element of risk--TF lake jump, MG gap, DKS single & double, GV lava respawn & rock hop, DSDS Dock shortcuts, BC3 shroom & ultra, DKM turnskip, rBC rail cut, etc... Wave 2 has tons of these interesting high-risk high-reward tracks that make for hype races and memorable finishes. In addition to them, to my surprise, keeping the MG gap jump a difficult but highly rewarding shortcut, there are major skips such as the one between the snowman & tree at the beginning of GBA Snow Land, or the one at the end of Sky-High Sundae where you skip half of the U-turn. TWD98 made a video on the Wave 2 shortcuts if you don't know what I'm talking about. But regardless of whether it was intentional or not, the tracks are becoming closer to what MKWii's track philosophy was, which I personally love. This wave alone has changed the amount of major unintended shortcuts from being just the 1 in big blue to being 3 or 4. And that's hype.

Sky-High Sundae being called a new track is definitely controversial especially since it just got revealed for Tour, and I do think the track was originally developed with Tour in mind. Some parts of the anti-gravity in the track do feel very minimal and strange, especially with the railing acting as boosters, adding to more proof that it is just a Tour track with anti-gravity added to it. I think it was called new for marketing purposes and because, at the time of the Wave 2 trailer, it hadn't been revealed for Tour yet and they didn't want to spoil it for Tour players. Just my take on it.

I might be I the minority but I like hiw simplistic Mario Circuit 3 is. It really feels like they pulled the classic course into this game. It is simple with pretty much no new changes, but it's really cool to see this old course with MK 8's superior controls and physics.

Sydney Sprint is probably my favorite course this wave, and I’ll be honest it’s mostly because of the music lmao

Technically Sky-high Sundae is a Tour track that Nintendo added to 8 Deluxe before they move it over to mobile

I personally really enjoy sky high sundae. Its simple but the music is pretty good and it is very fun to race people online due to how close everyone is

I think visually these 2 cups are way better, but just like wave 1 i the tracks are pretty hit or miss But I definitely prefer wave 2 to wave 1

18:42 As someone who's wasted more time than I'd like to admit on this tracks time trails, gap jump is certainly doable on 150 and you can even get over that fence. It's just twice as hard now.

You know, I really wasn’t a fan of Mario Circuit 3… BUT THE FACT THAT THEY TURNED THE ARROW BOOST PANEL INTO A BOX MAKES THIS ABSOLUTELY BETTER THAN ANY OTHER MARIO KART TRACK IN THE ENTIRE SERIES!!!!1!1!1!1!!!

Mario circuit 3 is an amazing track in a racing stand point and it’s music is amazing maybe it’s not the flashiest but it’s amazing

Sydney sprint’s music slaps so hard, it’s the perfect mix of exciting and beautiful honestly. It makes me feel really nostalgic even though it’s not old, and regardless of what people say about the dlc mario kart’s music team clearly know what they’re doing

Speaking of water physics, I hope they add more underwater tracks, even if it’s just changes for tracks

I really like the addition of the blue mushroom giving you a glider, as it both improves the track and implements a feature that was not present in the original, while making it feel really smooth.

I feel like you should mention that the glider ramps and the additional ramp at the end in Kalimari Desert were there in Mario Kart 7, it isn't technically new. Though of course the change in lap layout is of course great.

The fact that you called the Sydney Opera House 'A small building' when it's one of the most iconic buildings in the world and the most iconic in Sydney for most people

A lot of people seem to think Sky High Sundae is a new track, but it's not. It's from Tour, due to be released in future. For whatever reason this and Ninja Hideaway are missing the Tour label, and they're the last tracks in each wave. Anyway, all of the courses are ported from Tour, classic and new. There's nothing new being developed here, which is why the courses are all short and have low texture quality.

Sydney Sprint is easily my favourite. Living near Sydney is so cool cuz it's like "I've been there!!". Especially in the section that has the two paths with different textures. I've literally walked around there. It's so crazy.

Turnip Cup: New York Minute: A little too boxed in, like Tokyo Blur, but it's fun how distinct each lap is, and that the track is set at night. Mario Circuit 3: A chaotic little track online but nothing much to this track. Easily the blandest design and aesthetics in Wave 2. Kalimari Desert: I love that Nintendo combined the original N64 layout with Kalimari Desert 2 from Tour. The music remix is absolutely wonderful. My second favorite N64 track in the entire game after Rainbow Road. Waluigi Pinball: I love that we finally have this track in HD. Absolutely stunning, and having those classic item sound effects return is the cherry on top. Propeller Cup: Sydney Sprint: Easily the best Tour city track so far. I love how long this track is. It is so satisfying to trick off all the ramps with boost panels on them, and driving through the park and opera house feels great. Snow Land: The penguin rink is absolutely adorable. I absolutely love the remixed music as well. The layout is a little basic, but the little ramp at the way end of each lap adds some much needed last second chaos. Mushroom Gorge: I'm glad the mushroom shortcut at the start of each lap was added back as well as the gap skip at the end of each lap, like in Wii, while retaining the blue propeller mushroom from 7. Best version of this track by far. Sky-High Sundae: The colorful graphics and being fully in anti-gravity don't really make up for the bland layout. This is one of the weaker tracks in Wave 2. Sweet Sweet Canyon did a similar dessert theme better. Overall, I absolutely love this DLC Wave. It's so much better than Wave 1 with more consistency in terms of fun, creativity, and graphics.

I really love the gba courses and how they are trying to distinct them from the snes by overhauling them like cheese land and sky garden

N64 kalimari desert’s music is just okay? It sounds so beautiful with the added trumpets and other western instruments which make the track feel a lot more immersive. I played a lot of n64 back when and this tune stuck out to me as being different, now driving in this heavily updated track visually with this gorgeous soundtrack proudly playing is just what I wanted out of it.

Fun fact the ramp in the train map that randomly appears is actually invisible to those who aren’t on lap two, so you can see someone fly if you somehow get lapped at that point

I can only imagine how much better wave three will be! This was a big improvement

I see what you mean about the potential of anti-gravity in Waluigi Pinball but personally I'm not sure how well it would work given that it's still supposed to be a pinball machine, and having the pinballs rolling along upside-down surfaces and loop-the-loops would break the immersion a bit for me.

i actually like Mario Circuit 3 it feels more skill based then the others and there is something charming about the retro feel to it and it feels the most like a real life go-kart experience, which i like

Okay yeah the physics did feel odd to me in sky high sundae thanks for explaining it. I thought the track was really fun and super hard in 200cc so I like it overall

I'm so glad you mentioned the waluigi pinball song discrepancy, the fact it's now the ONLY course in mk8d to share a song with another course is so sad, I thought waluigi pinball wouldn't come back specifically because of that, but seems I was wrong.

“I am so mad that they didn’t radically alter the racetrack to my own specifications.” You know, the track is supposed to mimic a pinball table. If they were to turn parts of Waluigi Pinball anti grav, it wouldn’t make sense in relation to the gimmick of the track.

4:08 I genuinely wanted this track (or at least one of the SNES Mario Circuits) to return as it’s the first track basic but can be fun

12:24 That's not just any small building. That's the Opera House scaled down for MK8/Tour!

You always do the bonk sound when you hit a wall, I love it

Regarding Mario Circuit 3, I commented this on another channel, but I feel like it's the worst SNES Mario Circuit Nintendo could have brought back. Mario Circuit 1 is the first track in the franchise, so it has that massive historical factor going for it; Mario Circuit 2 has that great glide ramp at the end of laps, which debuted in Mario Kart 7; Mario Circuit 4 has never been remade before. Mario Circuit 3 doesn't have much going for it in comparison.

I'm most likely in the minority, but I honestly like the inclusion of Mario Circuit 3. I like seeing a few simple tracks mixed into the chaos of the other tracks in 8 Deluxe. Personally, I like trying to take the corners as fast as possible while also trying to avoid the sand. Don't crucify me since that is just my opinion (but it's the internet so opinions aren't allowed)

Guys, I got it they remade Mario Circuit 3 because it is the third Mario Circuit track in 8. The first two are in flower and shell respectively. Either that or they really wanted to make people mad by changing a cool arrow into a box (22:05), or thought it was important to move some of the pipes and make it even easier (pipe credit to TWD98).

Everyone’s talking about the cars finally moving now in Coconut Mall, but I personally miss the risk reward factor the boost pads gave back then.

There's one really good part about Mario circuit 3 it just feels really fast which I like

A long comment on why Mario Circuit 3 is the best track: There are 2 types of people. Those who hate mario circuit 3 and those who love mario circuit 3. I am one of the people who love mario circuit 3. Mario circuit 3 is the peak of mario kart retro tracks and might be the better than all new tracks in mario kart 8. The shortcuts are exillerating and ill never get over how clever it was to have a little opening between two lego like boxes. The backgrounds are amazing with natural hills that look very exciting and fun and i wish i could go to the hills in mario kart 8s mario circuit 3. It copies the design of its amazing brothers, mario circuit 1 and 2. The small dash block is a huge improvment and missing it is always a let down and its a huge risk on if i should go for it. I love mario circuit 3’s asthetics. The blocky look mixed in with nature is so amusing and i smile each time i see it. Those who dont like mario circuit 3 are weak minded beta males while those who love it are strong minded alpha males who can appreciate good track design and gorgeous looking mario kart tracks. Mario circuit 3 truly is the definitive mario kart track.

"This was not a track anyone wanted to see come back" i will gladly be that guy who likes this track bc mkwii nostalgia

18:38 That jumpscared me

I absolutely love the second wave, it makes me extremely excited for what’s to come!

For anyone who's struggling to do the GBA Snow Land shortcut that the staff ghost does on lap 3: go to the right of the snowman, align facing the finish line, outward drift around the lake, thank me later. Edit: for an alternative, slower but easier method, use the same alignment but to the left of the snowman. Saves less time but you're going more in the direction of the road, so the alignment is much less strict.

Wait what? WOW they updated coconut mall? Respect

Toad circuit be like: "Finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary"

I personally love mario circuit 3. It was the first mario kart track I played so it's definitely nostalgia, but I think it's great in it's simplicity.

You should do a level by level for the rest of the waves when they come out! Just an idea!

I get real eggdog vibes from sky high sundae

Other than Snow Land and Sky High Sundae, all the tracks are basically just ripped out of Tour. That’s why there’s little changed in them, and why there’s no anti-gravity.

If I were to describe sky high sundae, I would call it a fever dream

These tracks are sooooo much better than the 1st wave but I think that waluigi pinball is missing something i dont know how to explain it but it's still a great track and Sydney sprint is a very good track and probably my favorite because it's quite relaxed and just aesthetically great

10:37 don't worry man... for some reason I kept doing the same thing with that boost panel lol

Honestly, Mario Circuit 3 would've been cooler if they made it look like you were in an arcade game or something instead of just re-re-making the same track. If you're gonna do something again, at least do it better. Also, I try to trick off the boost panel in Waluigi Pinball thinking its a ramp too.

Mario Circuit 3 looks really good when considering it’s a snes track and it’s style is made to match that. It’s track layout is also really solid to drive through and the music is a great midi sounding remix of the original. In my opinion its one of the better remade tracks in this wave and i really hope you give it another chance sometime

Best Birthday gift I could ask for.

In Sydney sprint the slant is not intended to be off-road, also they kept Mario circuit exactly the same for nostalgia since it’s so iconic

You did a great job with this video! But hearing you call the Sydney Opera House the "starting building" devasted me.

Don't understand why MC3 was chosen when SNES MC2 literally has a glider ramp in mk7. It should be here

12:24 “…a small building…” Bro, that’s literally the Sydney Opera House, what an understatement 😭 Edit: 13:00 AND THAT ONE’S A FERRY, oh my gosh 😭

I like how the base game retro tracks were altered so that the actual track had little bumps and the turns were raised a bit, that alone would have made Mario circuit 3 better

12:25 the building is called the Sydney opera house btw

I hope we get Bowser's castle n64 in either the next wave or the last wave. But I don't think that Nintendo has plans for bc64 unfortunately.

Hey your not alone with trying to trick off that lone boost pad in waluigi pinball

10:38 you and me both man 🤣

Waluigi Pinball would place for me in A, purely because it was the perfect track to add anti-gravity. I know they're mostly just porting from Tour but especially with the graphics being drastically different from the base game, I expect a little bit of effort into making them feel more like MK8 tracks instead of MKT tracks.

“As we go through this small building” as an Australian, I took that personally

21:24 that "EXEPT YOU" hits hard ong

4:58 I like his reaction

We need a bob-omb battlefield track

I love how they combined calimary desert from the n64 and calimary desert 2 from tour

Hate on MC3 all you want, but that hasn't stopped it from being one of the most popular tracks online. Folks like TWD98 have noticed this as well.

12:23 "This will take you inside a small building which you have to glide out of." Just a small building? My man, you ever heard of something called the Sydney Opera House?

Honestly I don't mind Mario Circuit 3 at all, I find it endearing

Have you ever considered doing a Level by Level on the Battle Courses? I’d like to see what design philosophy’s battle courses use, and how well each one does that

10:38 trust me odyssey your not alone. The other night I tried playing this track with my friend a we both tried to trick on it ALL THREE LAPS...

you had no business making this video so funny 🤣🤣 the mario circuit slander references through the entire video was so hilarious 🤣

they kept the Waluigi Pinball SFX i am happy.

It’s just funny to me that mario curcuit 3 is the third mario circuit in two games

10:41 I'm with you dude, I still accidentally try it sometimes knowing damn well you can't trick there

3:01 Fun fact. The new area in lap 3 is actually the Rockefeller center which is the location of the nintendo new york store!

Hope you continue to make episodes on the other waves to come in the dlc! I love hearing your thoughts about them

The fact that the Coconut Mall cars moving didn’t even make A tier somehow makes me annoyed lmao Also SNES MARIO CIRCUIT’S RECTANGLE BOOST MAKES IT BEST EVER HOW DARE YOU

I prefer the simple courses because you don't risk falling off the trak every 5 seconds in 200cc

My ranking: 8.Mario Circuit 3 7.Sky-High Sundae 6.New York Minute 5.Sydney Sprint 4.Snow Land 3.Mushroom Gorge 2.Kalimari Desert 1.Waluigi Pinball

these tracks visually have improved a lot at least compared to the first wave

They should have gone with Mario Circuit 4 because the other 3 have already been remade 1 was remade in DS 3 was remade in Wii and 2 was remade in 7

Thank you for this video, you expressed my exact thoughts. Waluigi Pinball defo needed antigravity and the Sky High Sundae rails being boosters is really weird

MY RANKINGS: 8. SNES Mario Circuit 3 (F Tier) 7. Tour New York Minute (C Tier) 6. Sky-High Sundae (B Tier) 5. N64 Kalimari Desert (High B) 4. Tour Sydney Sprint (High B) 3. DS Waluigi Pinball (A Tier) 2. GBA Snow Land (A Tier) 1. Wii Mushroom Gorge (S Tier) edit: If you disagree, that's fine. That's what opinions are for

New York min on the same tier as Paris and coconut mall is criminal

20:46 When Abdallahsmash played this course in time trial, he went through the pole and got a boost.

Bro called the Sydney Opera House a 'small building'

lol both of the "200cc shortcuts" in snow land and mushroom gorge are in 150cc too

Great Video! If I'm being honest it sort of feels like the development time for Mario Circuit 3 was used to update the older tracks while they just port over MC3 from Wii which I guess makes sense (I do still wish it had better visual similar to all of the other tracks in wave 2 though)

On the topic of mario circuit 3, not every track has to be extravagant. Sometimes just playing on a simple circuit is a good thing. It leads to simple races and a break in the the vibrant colours and crazy turns that make the other courses all the better

I believe the 200cc shortcut on Snow Land is actually a returning shortcut. The place where it is matches up almost exactly with a shortcut from the original.

They really should’ve done Mario Circuit 4 instead of 3 as it is the only one that hasn’t been redone

21:24 I laughed so hard!