Are These Awful Atari Jaguar Games Really That Bad?

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8 ай бұрын

Today I'm going to take a look at 3 Atari Jaguar games that I have heard as being awful. I might've heard the rumor of them being bad from KZfaq videos, AtariAge or other forums, or maybe even from reviews. But I have heard these games being listed as bottom barrel Atari Jaguar games. I think it's important to give them a chance to prove themselves as being worthwhile. So while this isn't a review of the games, we are going to get my first reaction with them and see if I agree with what the consensus is about them.
The games we're looking at in the video is Kasumi Ninja, White Men Can't Jump and Checkered Flag. I know there are many more games like Bubsy, Cybermorph, and Hover Strike that have been labeled as being awful Jaguar games, so if you all enjoy this episode maybe we could do a part 2! Or maybe we could explore another Atari console...
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@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

So after 24 hours I think its clear that people really like Kasumi Ninja. Or i should say those who enjoy it are quite vocal. I plan on doing a full review in 2024 for Kasumi Ninja and the rest of the games, but I appreciate all the thoughts and information. So apparently Kasumi Ninja was going to feature a 3D adventure element between fights and the character select is a hold over from that. But I stand by my comments about the moves being hard to perform. The C Button does nothing so you start to ignore it and I couldnt figure out a single move until I looked up the FAQ. In contrast I was able to figure out Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat moves without a FAQ. But thanks for the feedback on Kasumi Ninja and Checkered Flag. I'll take it all into consideration for those games full reviews! And thanks for checking out the video!

@LeoDoesAllThis 5 ай бұрын

About White Men Can’t Jump. Well, I know it’s one of the only few Jaguar games to include a Team Tap adapter if you want to play it with other people, but I think that’s probably the only redeeming thing about that game. But I agree with what you said about it. It would’ve been a much better basketball game if it did include the characters from the movie of the same name.

@bildo1977 8 ай бұрын

Kasumi Ninja really pissed me off. The magazine ads for Kasumi Ninja falsely advertised a 3D maze that must be navigated, and beating your opponents would give you items that would allow you to get through the maze. This feature was cut from the game, and the ads in the magazines continued to erroneously make this claim even after the game’s release! It still pisses me off to this day!

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

Wow that sucks but you just explained to me why they included that part of the game. They should've cut it all together but you just motivated me to make a video diving deeper into what kasumi ninja was supposed to be! Thank you!

@bildo1977 8 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetwork Great! That’s an issue that’s not typically known or talked about in reviews.

@LeoDoesAllThis 5 ай бұрын

The only feature in this game that is even 3D is the character select screen, in which you would have to choose two fighters before having them fight to the death.

@daveb8891 5 ай бұрын

I thought the desert stage in some magazine screenshots looked really cool. It was pretty much the main thing that I liked about it. Then when I bought the game, the one thing I wanted wasn't even there. I think it surfaced years later in some prototypes that have been going around.

@woorusty 5 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetworkplease make that video! 😊

@KrunchyTheClown78 8 ай бұрын

Checkered Flag is a game I want to like, but the flaws you mentioned are correct. I really want to see a remake of Checkered Flag on the Jaguar, that would make my day! Jaguar development seems to have suffered similarly as the N64, the hardware not being properly utilized. If dev tools, and better use of the hardware could be done, I think you could probably get a game more like World Tour Racing with a solid and smooth 30fps framerate.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

Yeah they needed to help their devs more similar to what Sony did but they basically gave them the tools with little to no help. I really wanted to like checkered flag too but the flaws are impossible for me to get past. Lots of people seem to be stepping up to its defense though so there's got to be some redeeming qualities to it somewhere!

@Zaphod-ef9yz 8 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetworkI only acquired Checkered Flag last year and played it right through a couple of times. I actually quite enjoy it, it's one of those games that you need to practice the controls for, particularly "feathering" the d-pad on turns but I have played worse racing games. I think the way graphically it was blown out the water by every other mainstream system at the time doesn't help it under the retrospective eye.

@ajboomer1347 Күн бұрын

@@Zaphod-ef9yz The blocky leaves make the palm trees look like they're from a Sonic the Hedgehog game.

@TeeroyHammermill 8 ай бұрын

I thought Kasumi Ninja was a pretty good MK knockoff. The gameplay is slow and deliberate pretty much like MK and the high color digitized graphics actually look better than MK. The problem was it was released in 94 when everyone was playing MK2 which is a far superior game. The Jaguar would've possibly fared much better in the market with MK2 along with or even without Kasumi Ninja, so Kasumi could almost be considered a waste of resources if you look at it this way. I'd imagine a Jaguar port of MK2 would've been the absolute best version on a home console. Checkered Flag deserves every criticism it gets, but I'm starting to wonder has anyone realized the character behavior of the car is somewhat adjustable? If you consistently use 'high' airfoil and 'wet' tires, the car will control better and you wont crash as much. It should also be noted that Rebellion supposedly received some guidance from an actual race car driver when they were designing this game, which means it's trying to be more of a white knuckle simulation as opposed to an arcade racer, so it's necessary to use the brakes to navigate the turns. I don't know why Atari would think gamers would want a racing game that controls like this, but once I got accustomed to the controls, I actually enjoy it sometimes. I never tried WMCJ, but your review is encouraging a try. Cheers.

@IntoTheVerticalBlank 8 ай бұрын

Awesome video as always! Kasumi - Although I was in college during the height of the "fighting game" arcade explosion, I was never a fan. I appreciate the games though, and you are right, it took a while for home machines to be able to do all of the scrolling and big sprites needed for a game like this. For me, Kasumi is a good game technically (which is how I usually judge games), and not as difficult as people say. I do hate the strange mimic'ed Japanese voices and offensive characters. The "unlocking" characters systems became VERY common after the Jag, ahead of it's time? =) Gameplay-wise, I agree that it isn't an enjoyable game. White Men Can't Jump - Never played it. It does remind me of One on One, good point! I'll need to try it. Checkered Flag - One of the the 5 games I had for my Original Jag in 1995. I always kind of liked it, but hated the controls. I Played Ridge Racer on the PSX Much more.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

Pulling off the moves in kasumi ninja is just too hard. C button does nothing yet you have to hold it and use a combination of direction presses. I feel like if it had followed the mold more with the moves it would've played better. There's nothing wrong with unlocking fighters either but you have to unlock all but 2. That's a poor decision for me as I'd like to jump right in and play as Angus or one of the other characters. But instead I have to beat them first. It just feels like a silly decision to me. If I could control Checkered Flag I would've enjoyed it much more but unfortunately it's a pain for me to play. Thanks for the input and thanks for watching.

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 6 ай бұрын

Checkered Flag was the coders first ever game, Rebellion themselves admit they were asked by Atari to produce under contract, a plain polygon 3D Racing title for the Jaguar, so that's what they delivered, they admit they could never get the controls right and Atari didn't let them implement changes they wanted, Atari took the game off then, in order to get it out early, so the systems library had more titles.

@LeoDoesAllThis 5 ай бұрын

But weren’t Rebellion also the makers of the Alien vs. Predator game on the same system? Because I’ve heard that they’ve done a better job with that game than Checkered Flag.

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 4 ай бұрын

@@LeoDoesAllThisThere were 2 AVP teams, Rebellion here in the UK, who did the graphics, game engine, framerate killing A. I. Routines and an Atari Corp team headed by James Purple Hampton, who'd earlier been the Producer of the canned Atari Lynx AVP game. Rebellion also did the system pushing Skyhammer on Jaguar and had begun work on Legions Of The Undead, which used an advanced version of the AVP Engine.

@iwanttocomplain 2 ай бұрын

@@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 Rebellion. Hard working, clever, inventive and creative and level headed still in business and pushing out Evil Villain DLC's bi-weekly.

@MisterSplendy 8 ай бұрын

Yes! Another fun little video! I applaud you for pointing out how easy it is for people to repeat what they heard on the internet without even trying these games. I'll confirm, that the graphics are murky and depressing for WMCJ and Kasumi Ninja. Checker Flag, however, looks very decent. I any case, I fired them up on Retroarch and while WMCJ does not load, the other two games really are that bad.

@johndd9140 5 ай бұрын

Chequered Flag on the Lynx was superb... such a pity about the Jaguar version!

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 4 ай бұрын

It was only Checkered Flag in name, early documents show that, at one point, Atari had actually considered returning to the Pole Position name, meaning Checkered Flag might have been called Pole Position III, they initally showed it as Redline Racing. It was a low budget, contract development title by Rebellion, who had no experience of doing racing games and it was the first game coder Rob Dibley had ever written.

@8bitrocketstudios 8 ай бұрын

It has a number of good games, many just "yeah it's a decent game, BUT..." and a few real stinkers.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

Yeah it's a small library too so it needed a lot more great games to be worth while for most. Still I think there aren't very many truly awful games...

@sabertoothretro 8 ай бұрын

Checkered Flag is abysmal. The control is completely broken. World Tour Racing for the Jaguar CD is a much better open wheel racer and worth a look. I've always liked Kasumi Ninja, and WMCJ is a laugh riot in 4-player mode.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

I wish I had 3 people to enjoy white men can't jump with, I'm sure that's where it's at! I'll have to get a way to play Jaguar cd games to try that racing game!

@madmax2069 7 ай бұрын

I had the chance on getting checked flag, but i passed it up and got club drive instead.

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 6 ай бұрын

With WMCJ, the coder at least seemed pleased with his work.. The game is looking really good right now. I have optimized and optimized the game everywhere and right now it runs at about 15 fps at a resolution of 320x220. However, this could be faster if I didn't need to unpack all the character animations on the fly but since there are 12-15 Megabytes of sprite frames, I need to keep them compressed and I unpack them immediately before they are displayed. This amounts to megabytes of compressed data being slung around which obviously requires some additional work ;) Programmer Adisak Pochanayon

@Brazbit 6 ай бұрын

Kasumi Ninja is actually one of my guilty pleasure Jaguar games. Is it Street Fighter? No. But I love the humor built into it. For a truly bad fighting game on the Jag try Fight for Life. For a better one Possibly Ultra Vortek, although I've never actually tried it. The wild card is Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story which looks great and plays great, but the move list is so crazy complex that it requires weeks of study to play proficiently (15 pages of the manual to cover moves despite it being a three-button controller) White Man Can't Jump is one I haven't played myself, but after BasketBrawl my opinion of Atari basketball games is quite low. I reserve judgment for now. For a really great basketball game on the jag try NBA Jam: Tournament Edition. It is probably my favorite version of the game. Is it leaps and bounds better than other versions? No, but it is slightly better at nearly every aspect from looks to sound to gameplay. Definitely the best all-around version if not the best at any one thing. Checkered Flag is decidedly worse than the Atari Lynx game of the same name. I have yet to have fun playing this one. Give me Pitstop or Enduro on the 2600 over this one anyday. However, it is leaps and bounds better than Hard Drivin'. If you want a decent driving game get Club Drive or Power Drive Rally. Now if you want a game that makes the system look truly awful try Supercross 3D. That game is about 25% complete, if that. Same goes for the earlier mentioned Fight For life.

@SongbirdPro 8 ай бұрын

I agree on WMCJ. I actually played that game all the way through to the championship game back in the 1990s. Graphics were dark, sure, but the controls were responsive and the gameplay was decent. Definitely not a top 10 but not the worst either.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

I appreciate all your releases on the Jaguar by the way

@socrates0603 8 ай бұрын

I bought the Jaguar a few years ago to participate in the high score challenge on the Atari I/O forum. I've only managed to get some time with Cybermorph and have no experience with anything else. Having said that, Cybermorph really endeared me to the Jaguar. My initial reaction to seeing the game was "Hey, this looks like an Atari ST game!" I later found out that the Jaguar and the ST were from the same era, so it's not a surprise that the graphics style are similar. Up to that point, I hadn't seen an ST game since I owned one more than 30 years ago, so it was a nice and unexpected trip down memory lane. I've seen some videos of other Jaguar games, and to be honest, nothing has wowed me or has gotten me excited to play it. However, I am still positively determined to extract some more fun out of the machine 😆 If all else fails, I will still have Cybermorph to enjoy (despite what others have to say about it and all the memes about learning to fly). Looking forward to more Jag content, Jon. Thanks!

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

I enjoy cybermorph and a review is coming in December but just remember I try to look at the bigger picture when reviewing games. But I too have enjoyed cybermorph. There are other games that I think are excellent and worth playing on the Jaguar, but those will be revealed over the next year. Hopefully I can help you find something more to play on your jag! Thanks for watching!

@Zaphod-ef9yz 8 ай бұрын

Anyone liking Cybermorph should try Iron Soldier, they're different but also similar and I like both.

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 4 ай бұрын

Jaguar is from a lot later era than the ST, you had the STE, then Falcon before the Jaguar, plus, unlike the ST, it has a lot of custom chips. Free roaming polygon 3D games were very much of that era though. Likes of: Midwinter 1 and 2,Hunter,Starglider II, Carrier Command, Battle Command, Armour Geddon

@socrates0603 4 ай бұрын

@@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 appreciate your clarification

@GetLostGames1 8 ай бұрын

Atari Jaguars molds were sold to a dental camera company. I would love to see a Jaguar made out of the Silver dental camera shell!

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

This is true. I have seen some of these shells for sale before but not lately.

@Zaphod-ef9yz 8 ай бұрын

The PS2 was based off an unreleased Atari computer shell too.

@clarenceboddicker6679 5 ай бұрын

Having one of the dental camera shells on a Jaguar console could cause issues though. For example while gaming the player might suddenly start seeing teeth and the insides of people mouths on the screen. I don't know about you but for me personally that would really break the immersion of the game, a huge distraction.

@jeremiahthomas8140 6 ай бұрын

I have beaten both Kasumi Ninja and White Man Can't Jump, and I had fun doing both. Checkered Flag on the other hand...

@flo_raf 5 ай бұрын

You should do a video on Club drive, Bubsy and Fight for life. Both are exclusive to the Jaguar.

@TheAtariNetwork 5 ай бұрын

Oh that's a good idea for a follow up video! I like it I'm going to add that to my list of videos to do! Thank you friend!

@flo_raf 5 ай бұрын

You're welcome ! Good luck when you'll play to Club drive ! 😅

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 4 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetworkCoder Andrew Seed has been kind enough to give insights into Jaguar Bubsy... Bubsy ( which he wrote - mainly in 68000 - based on the Genesis control code) did run at 60 frames a second ( PAL 50 frames - not my fault 8¬) ) The Ali Baba level had a lot of small sprites per character - to save memory but crucified the game since it placed a heavy burden on processor time. But due to having 3 full screen sprites ( background , and 2 for the map - Bubsy could run behind things) I lost about 30% of processor time. Another problem I had with Bubsy was that updating the visible tiles meant a loss of 40% processor time - this varied due to the amount of none blank blocks I had to blit onto the map sprites. This was at most 72 16*16 blocks ( 256 colour). Depending upon how you needed to use the blitter it could be very fast but in most circumstances it would be slow. Finally the sound was like the ST, would had create an interrupt and feed the sound chip the values. Unlike the STE and Falcon where you could just play a buffer OK you had to create the buffer but that was in a nice fast tight loop). Atari wanted Bubsy to have a nerf gun, but that was quickly thought not to be in keeping with the game format.

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 3 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetworkTodd Powers had wanted Club Drive to be driving game all about driving a miniature toy car, and the physics showed that. Atari kept pushing Todd to make it more of a "serious" racing game, and that really hurt it.

@TeeroyHammermill 27 күн бұрын

@@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 : Jaguar version seems to be the best out of all the other 2D versions.

@Fools_Requiem Ай бұрын

From what I've seen from Supercross 3D, I think it's safe to assume that there isn't a worse game on the system.

@nikopro6462 3 ай бұрын

The Jaguars issue wasn’t the console power itself or even the fact it was hard to code on…it was that there are very few gems tied to it…if you can count all the great games made for it on one hand - you know it was a spectacular flop

@johneygd 8 ай бұрын

Katsumi ninja did had atleast mind blowing graphics with lots of 3D depth in it,just imagine if that game did run on a snes,i definitely would,ve be mind blown away,checkered flag will do have awdul controls,but it was atleast a nice try from atari to compeat against sega’s virtua racing and nintendo’s stunt race fx.

@pierregareau6590 8 ай бұрын

The graphics of the fighting and the basketball are mediocre consider the power of the Jaguar and for the racing game , it's sad because I like the 3D graphics, what u think about Atari cart ? ,is it any fun ? Thanks for the review

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

I liked Atari Karts, I had it the last time I had Jaguar. The backgrounds are beautiful in my opinion and there are quite a few unlockable racers but the challenge is minimal.

@pierregareau6590 8 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetwork ok thanks for your review and infos

@ExtremeWreck 6 ай бұрын

Checkered Flag is what I consider to be FAR worse than Club Drive. Club Drive at least had a few redeeming factors & was comedic. The only thing Checkered Flag has that is any good is the soundtrack.

@forceinfinity 3 ай бұрын

I'm not sure that Checkered Flag was *** that **** unplayable. I eventually got the feel of controls and was able to manage after a while. I'm not saying it's the greatest, but I don't think it's THAT bad. Theme Park on the other hand was horribly unplayable after a time, to the point that there was a crash bug that hits once you reach a certain park size.

@derekdash2179 8 ай бұрын

I enjoy Kasumi Ninja despite it's fkaws. It has a certain charm when you figure out the controls. WMCJ is also fun. Tough 3D perspective to track the loose ball. I have tried but cannot have fun with Checkered Flag. That game needed more development resources.

@XV250 7 ай бұрын

I have collected Jaguar stuff since 2000, and it has some great games... but yeah, a lot of cruddy games too. I would agree with you that WMCJ actually is not so bad... I'd give it a C+.

@TheAtariNetwork 7 ай бұрын

That's about where it would land for me

@oldschoolcompsci 8 ай бұрын

As an asian man I find this video offensive for its references back to 90s pop culture featuring 'white men can't jump'. I'm south asian and I can't jump either. but why can't I get a movie or video game about it also?

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

For some reason this comment tickled me more than it should've. If nothing else I recognize your inability to jump as much as mine lol

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 6 ай бұрын

Take these with a pitch of salt, as he's lied about other aspects of the company, but.. Jim Gregory of Handmade Software was kind enough to give his account of the game: Jim Gregory: The original Kasumi was also crippled by Atari. Because of the boss’s kids’ input, they removed many elements and characters. They halved the cart size that we could use, again wiping out many months of work. Oh dear me… we hired a host of actors and had a new 3-D engine set up for a superb CD version of Kasumi 2. It was a fantastic storyline and was WAY ahead of anything else. Many thousands of pounds were to be lost on that project when they were closed down by Time Warner.

@TeeroyHammermill 27 күн бұрын

Handmade did a really good job on Total Carnage.

@Pon3TorLord 8 ай бұрын

I've heard Club Drive was absolute trash, but I disagree. It has a distinct chill atmosphere, and cool simple, but abstract design. The controls are fluid too in my opinion. My only actual complaint is that it's too short. Outside of different modes, you only get 4 stages in the entire game.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

Club Drive is an interesting game at least

@baroncalamityplus 8 ай бұрын

Club Drive is my guilty pleasure on the Jag. I've played it way more than any other game except for Tempest 2000. I played it recently again on the Atari 50.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

@@baroncalamityplus ok so either of you or anybody else who sees this. Do I approach club drive as a racing game or is it something else? I heard another reviewer say that club drive is not a racing game and it's much more enjoyable when you realize that. So I'm just curious, how have you gotten enjoyment out of it? Thanks

@Pon3TorLord 8 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetworkI've certaintly played it as a racing game, because time trials is the only mode that's really enjoyable. Try out San Francisco or Velocity Park, set to 2 or 4 laps and try again and again to beat your high score. Powerballs is FINE, but also stressful. Club Drive can be enjoyed like any classic Atari game, pick up & play chill gameplay.

@baroncalamityplus 8 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetwork I just drive from point to point. Taking my time.

@MisterAzathoth 8 ай бұрын

Kasumi Ninja had potential but suffers from the same fate most PC fighters did; a z-tier developer who had never touched a fighting game before. Even the worst original fighters on the 16-bit consoles played better than Kasumi. I enjoy trash fighters and really wanted to like Kasumi but it just plays too poorly. They shouldn't have tried to reinvent the wheel with weird special motions and kept everything basic. That alone is what elevates Ultra Vortek above Kasumi even though it's visually inferior.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

I agree with almost everything you said. If they had just followed mortal Kombat or street fighters example with the moves, then I would've defended it as a decent playing fighter with some bad ideas thrown in.

@Jolt7800 8 ай бұрын

As a retro gamer who never played or owned the Jaguar, I still feel that these 3 games belong in the bad list. I am not a basketball fan (or basketball game fan) so these games would not hold my interest. But I definitely like hearing about “bad” games on just about any system.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

I think people who like videogames want to learn about them all but not necessarily play them all. Life is too short to spend on bad games so it's nice that some people look into them for the rest of us. That said there's a lot of people coming to the defense of kasumi ninja and checkered flag but nobody seems to love white men can't jump like I did...

@Jolt7800 8 ай бұрын

Well said, Pro Gamer

@alcampbell469 8 ай бұрын

You never owned nor played these games? Why comment? I played when 2 of them when they were released one was good, one was okay.

@welliben 8 ай бұрын

I don't think Kasumi is that bad - it's not great but definitely not a bad game, I don't remember having a massively hard time with the special moves, just hold down the c button and wiggle! Quite a few of the special move combos are similar to Streetfighter anyway. As for whether it is no offensive or not nowadays, I'm not sure. It is was intended as a fairly light hearted take on the genre (the stereotypes are deliberately outrageous, the commentator is fairly typical of that ninja thing that infested the nineties), and if you take it in that light probably not - whether you find it amusing is probably a matter of taste though. I doubt any Scot is going to be outraged by the depiction of Angus for example. White Men Can't Jump I want to try again, but when I played it years ago I couldn't get into it at all, and the graphics really are too dingy. Chequered Flag is ruined by those controls and the terrible rubber banding. You can sort of work with the controls with practise, but it really needed analogue controls to work best I think.

@baroncalamityplus 8 ай бұрын

Kasumi Ninja isn't a good game but, in its defense, it plays a lot better with the pro controller and I was able to unlock all the characters in a single afternoon.

@GTV-Japan 8 ай бұрын

I liked checkered flag. Of course back then you took what you got and learned to like it. I never hated it. It’s just choppy and what game wasn’t back then?

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

The choppiness I could handle but the control is broken beyond belief. I played a ton of racing games back then including stuff like hard drivin on the Sega Genesis but Checkered Flag is dismal in its controls. I learned to love a lot of sub par racing games in the 90s but this one, just no.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

But if you liked it then I'm glad, I know I like a lot of games other people don't. And any love the Jaguar gets is a okay to me!

@GTV-Japan 8 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetworkI learned to get around the controls. Just tap left or right and stay center. Don’t treat it like a steering wheel.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

@@GTV-Japan I'll try to remember that when I go to do the review for this one thanks.

@dad7275 7 ай бұрын

I actually played Checkered Flag enough to beat it. Yes its has several flaws but I did find some enjoyment in it. I guess I wanted it to be good so bad that I seen past its flaws. I really want someone to get ahold of this rom and fix the glaring issues. Id so buy a reworked version of this if only half the issues was fixed.

@TheAtariNetwork 7 ай бұрын

Wait you beat it? Wow that's dedication

@dad7275 7 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetwork yes. Took some work but yea. The mechanics is pretty bad but the game idea is good. Hint of advice..easier to play using the sight overhead veiw because with the bad framerate and control its harder to react to the curves in the road.

@Cose2Cose 8 ай бұрын

MORE JAG!!!!!

@dm486 3 ай бұрын

Club Drive was worse I think

@alcampbell469 8 ай бұрын

Kasumi Ninja is a great game. Not sure what you are on about. White men cant jump. I did not play it. Chequered Flag is okay. For the time it was released. Not the most playable game but a great tech demo. It feels like an unfinished proto that they were making for the panther then decided to upscale it for the Jag. I think it is way better than Virtua Racing for the Sega Saturn.

@TobeyStarburst 8 ай бұрын

I love Kasumi Ninja lol

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

I think they made a lot of poor decisions with kasumi ninja. I wasn't able to learn one special move from normal gameplay I had to look them all up which I consider a negative. The cast of characters are goofy and fun but I'm not allowed to play them until I beat them, otherwise I'm stuck with two ninjas who play the same. And the character selection screen is just unnecessary... Although they try to give it purpose when you have to "find the final boss" at the end, but I don't think that was good enough to warrant it. But maybe I'm in the minority I'm sure there are tons of people who love Kasumi Ninja! And hey, I love the Jaguar so even though it's not for me I'd still be happy about it!

@TeeroyHammermill 4 ай бұрын

@@TheAtariNetwork : Hindsight 20/20 I think Kasumi probably would've been better served as a 2 player street brawler with the one on one fighting as a sub-game similar to NES Double Dragon. The Jaguar never got a brawler and there were many other one on one fighters that could've been ported to the Jag instead of building an MK knockoff from scratch. Even the awful Double Dragon V was already available to fill that void.

@bitset3741 3 ай бұрын

Checkered Flag on Jaguar? 2 out of 10 at best. Checkered Flag on BigPemu emulator with overclocked chipset? I dare say 5 out of 10, maybe 6? I can actually win races with CF on BigPemu! The framerate smooths out and you can take turns a bit better. It still isn't as good as Virtua Racer, but it is better. Kasumi Ninja is bad... White Men can't Jump should have been named something else. Anything else.

@makaveli4205 5 ай бұрын

I seen white men cant jump at the movie theater early 90s. Its really funny still.

@starofjustice1 8 ай бұрын

lol yeah

@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 6 ай бұрын

More from the Kasumi Ninja Dev team.. Kasumi Ninja wasn’t a particularly glorious moment for me.” was one quote.. “Did some stunts on the green across from the building, we filmed some walks runs and jumps with my leather jacket on…it hurt!”..another. “I was promised this amazing music system from Atari for KN on the Jaguar so I wrote loads of cool music and then it turned out the system couldn’t handle it and Atari’s code was dreadful.”..the final quote.

@TheAtariNetwork 6 ай бұрын

Good stuff

@joesshows6793 3 ай бұрын

Games are terrible

@kevinstrade2752 8 ай бұрын

Checkered Flag is horrendous. The control is awful. Irony is I have a demo of an earlier version they revealed and it actually looked more promising. Why they redid the game into that released PoS is beyond me. Im not a tech person so I assume there was issues further developing the earlier version. Kasumi Ninja I liked and enjoyed back in the day. Its a bit sluggish with the controls but that was more common back then, especially with MK clones. White men can't jump....I have it but but never seriously tried to play it...if the frame rate was a titch smoother it looks like it could have been playable for short periods.

@TheAtariNetwork 8 ай бұрын

I'd be interested in tracking down that demo for myself. I want to do some research for a video on what these Jaguar games were supposed to be vs what we got and that sounds like another that could be included. Like you said, perhaps whatever they were trying to do was too taxing on the hardware and they didn't have enough time to start over on checkered flag... It seems a lot of people like Kasumi Ninja and maybe it'll grow on me as I continue to play but it's just not for me right now. Dare I say I like Ultra Vortek better or will that stir up too much stuff? Lol I might've been too forgiving to white men can't jump but what can I say, I had fun. But that fact might not save it when I do a full review on it in 2024... Thanks for watching!

@fliggapin0 8 ай бұрын

Ultra Vortek is hot garbage, like most of its library. I was lucky enough to work @ a video game store back in the 90s.. This system sucked in every aspect.

@dad7275 7 ай бұрын

I cant say Tempest 2000 sucks. It was great in every aspect. Doom was great, and from what I hear Rayman was too.