the notes have called out so much BS by politicians

Even ads can be community noted! 😊

I've hated Twitter for over a decade now, but this truly is the nicest feature that any platform should be implementing. KZfaq is going the opposite direction removing a visible dislike count.

It's also worth noting, new Community Notes are sent as notifications to everyone who interacted with the post before the Note was published.

I'd like to add a Community Note for this video. At 3:12, you said the nitpickers were the "king-makers" but the visual scale had them higher. Scales don't work like that. If they carried more weight, it should be lower. Source: gravity

Community notes is legitimately one of the few good modern developments of the internet. So far ive yet to see an incorrect community note stay up for more than 5 minutes, and anonymity discourages clout chasers

Twitters Community Notes are really cool. And the secret comment section is at times very funny to read.

Community Notes are amazing ngl. I'm not a Twitter fan, but Community Notes should be on every social media platform

I bet the designers of the system knew they were on to something when two members of the team who typically disagree agreed on the value of agreement between people who typically disagree.

Even if community notes are not perfect and can continue to be improved upon, they are absolutely better than every censorship method all other sites use

Elon himself got called out by Community Notes (and it was pretty big). Best marketing ever. Every platform needs that function, and should have it's code open sourced often, like at X.

Yes. It is really fun to see. And the BEST part is that the click bait posts stop getting paid once they are noted. We get to see the biggest morons get publicly corrected where they can't hide until they delete the tweet

also, no. Community Noting on Socoial Media sites should not be a monetizized activity as it would lead to people creating automated tool to create fraudulent corrections Source: Perverse incentive on Wikipedia

If KZfaq could have this, we might be saved.

I love the feature. However the biggest problem with community notes is that it just takes too long before a note is actually accepted. The damage is already done. Espacially in new media, where most people won't go back to old posts, but only view the newest or most populair ones.

What we need is some form of public comments that is independent from websites, so we can comment on articles or videos in a way that the website won't be able to interfere.

This is actually way more interesting than I thought it would be. Thanks for sharing.

No social media site I have ever made a report on has every done anything about it, including KZfaq.

I liked a post on X and then got a notice later when a community note was applied to it. And it was helpful, I had initially gotten fooled by the rage machine.

I do gotta admit, the Community Notes thing is a very good feature, despite how much of a crapchute Twitter, a.k.a. X, is.

It's unfortunate that community notes being pretty cool is marred by how absolutely abhorrent the userbase on twitter has become.

community notes has consistently been an A tier feature, actually good job twitter

This is actually designed way smarter than I imagined, which probably explains the mostly good results. Thanks for the in-depth explanation!

wish facebook had this. i reported a well known scam ad, got an automated reply that facebook will take no action. scam was even warned about in national news.

I like this, but I think that when you see a post without a community note, and a note gets added later, you should see that post in your feed again, so that you get to see that this polititian or whoever else is talking BS

Easily the most important tech quickie I’ve ever seen. Thanks for breaking down the pros and cons of community notes and getting us to imagine how to optimize content moderation.

I always think it's hilarious when I watch people who make fun of flat earthers and there's a Wikipedia article about the flat earth society and why they're wrong.

I'm yet to write a community note, but about once a week I'll see look over and review community notes. Like everyone, I have my biases, but I try be self-reflective and cognizant of them and approach most things in life from an objective and rational angle. I also try to interpret the post in question in the most favourable light ( well-intentioned ). I'll read the community note, check its sources, then pass judgment as fairly as possible. I've contributed to notes on stuff I both agree and disagree with purely because the facts weren't presented as they should have been. Probably one of the best improvements on any platform in the last decade.

Betteridge's law. To elaborate: - It's a way for platform operators to delegate issues they should be concerned about, and wash their hands of the results - It can take a while for a note to appear, on a site where posts can live and die at lightening speed. People who like a post that gets a note are notified, but people who scroll past without liking won't see it again to know what they saw earlier got corrected. - There is very little vetting of who can submit notes - It allows posts of concern to continue circulating, and in the case of conspiracy content and certain types of misinformation the presence of a note makes it *more* credible to the people it's targeting that they're "on to something" or "being targeted" - While it's resistant to dogpiling, it's very much still possible. Usually in the form of the winning version of a note being factually correct but carrying an accusatory or sympathetic slant in how it's written. - Posts about parasocial celebrities or certain current issues sometimes get unnecessary and pedantic notes (ones that add very little and don't affect the conclusion/message), which feels like a retaliatory attempt to undercut their credibility by being able to say "Well, that got a community note". - Some posts by a certain parasocial celebrity seem to deserve a note yet fail to receive one, leading to suspicion there's a finger on the scale somewhere - It's applied on an individual basis and only when posts get a lot of views, so a bunch of bot accounts copy-pasting the same misinformation to a trending hashtag won't get noted - It's not uncommon for people recirculate screenshots of tweets rather than quote them, which breaks the link back to the community noted version. While it is generally positive and is better than nothing, it's a partial fix to moderation issues of Twitter's own making. Twitter is not saving the internet.

I've seen notes that are just plain wrong too, so you shouldn't always trust the notes either.

I think the way Bluesky is setting up stuff feels more interesting. Right now it lets you choose your own algorithms for content search, choose moderators or mute lists, etc., and in a potential future it could set up content checking, so instead of having stuff like Twitter's community notes, Bluesky/ATProto might make its feature work in a similar fashion, where you subscribe to a verification source (or many) that sets up their own notes, and check up those as they come. Definitely they work in that way, where rather than the user having to select a prepackage (like Twitter but also Mastodon with their server-focused implementation), they let users choose services that work on top of each other so you can mix and mash whatever you prefer.

I'm not sure I would trust the community notes feature except when it shows up on "advertisements" because I've seen QUITE A FEW community notes debunking some crappy ad, claiming "drop shipper, stolen design, etc"

Facebook definitely needs a feature like this.

That's actually super smart...

Love that feature. Makes corpo journalists look like clowns

Mark Ruffalo once shared an AI generated picture on twitter, and when he was called out in the community notes, he blamed the platform itself for allowing to post AI generative image. I have studied Digital Image Analysis, there's no way a code can differentiate between an AI generated image and a real one because computers don't have eyes, they recognise pictures mostly by neural networks, and neural networks treat both kind of images similarly because they break those images into numbers. There's an excellent video by 3Blue1Brown on this same topic.

This feature is really bringing the truth back to the front row

Damn, "Birdwatch" would've been a really cool name if it was still "Twitter"

This video warrants a community note.

Community note should be standard on social media

Practically essential now that there are no non-partisan fact checking websites left

Much better than yt's context notes, literally full of misinformation on this platform.

Where on earth did you get the stock b-roll footage?? The birds one is amazing!!!

That feature should really be added to all platforms imo, youtube had something similar where there would be a note added to videos about if the earth is flat, and global warming and whatnot

I should've known that the one (mostly) good thing about Xitter after Elmo took over had been in the works for a long time already.

every social media website should have Community Notes, here's hoping it can stay actually decentralized. man, i miss Snopes when they actually were a Fact-checking Hub

It’s fascinating to see how social media platforms are evolving and striving to combat misinformation with features like community notes while preserving freedom of speech. However, the effectiveness still seems to depend on user understanding and trust in the system. It's a fine balance to achieve.

Community notes meant politicians of both sides of the isle could get fact-checked, and corporations, too. Every site needs this feature.

Elon didn't come up with it, but it definitely kicked up awhile after he bought the site. Though I question his involvement, as it's gone directly against him several times lol

Often the "established authority" is the problem. They do often just check that it agreed with their political bias.

Shiet, boi, that was pretty cool! I wish you explained these kind of unusual things more often than just "How much internet is too much?"

The only issue is that some KZfaqrs have managed to get community notes on their incorrect statements removed, as they often have viewers from across political spectrums.

Thank you for calling it Twitter

I only saw that Note Feature here on KZfaq when it came to Covid. Never saw it again after 😂

Community Notes seem to work very well. Great feature.

One major issue about community notes as a fact checking feature is that it requires people to look up the source. Often time some of these viral tweets are spread through screenshots of the post rather than a link to it which sometimes causes fake posts to go viral cause no one checks if it was actually real.

UNTIL you realize those Community Notes are no different than WikiPedia because ANYONE can become a "Community notes" poster. I've LITERALLY watched a Community Notes post get live edited, then RE-edited with different supporting claims, ONLY to be RE-EDITED again by yet another Community Notes poster within minutes. Community Notes is just another version of the BlueCheck. It's not a VALID fact checking organization. It's just Wikipedia for tweets. And Wikipedia is not even allowed as a reference material for most LEGITIMATE academic institutions. So take Community notes with a HUGE Tonne of salt!

Yea. But it would be nice if Musk stop deleting them under his own posts.

the officeman with a crown asset lmao

There was an episode about this on The Orville. Including the masses thumbing up or down on whether or not people should be punished.

the community notes might make x the best social media, is incredible the amount of misinformation that it is everywhere in all the social media platforms, at least in x they eventually get clarified by the community notes

Community notes should be standard on every social media site.

I trust the community notes more than modern “journalists”.

Who's gonna fact check the fact checkers?

Traditional fact checkers have been notoriously bias all in a single direction so at this point anything is better than the echo chamber that was created before.

Community notes is the single greatest thing that ever happened on any social media. I hope that in ~7 years we get an open source federated community notes system that any sites can opt in (similar to disqus's comment section being integrated into a bunch of sites) and people can fact check across the internet.

george clone-y?

weird, musk seems to have turned twitter into unmoderated chan with him as lead snipper of things not liked

Facebook has a similar system but it basically censor or ban some memes or sarcastic jokes.

"You most likely know it as Community Notes, but it'll always be Birdwatch to me."

It is, no moderation and censorships is unironically the most vital and bare mimimum defining feature of any social network and messaging platform unironically.

Is Twitter death, its way to save the internet? 🐱

It's a type of Peer Review mechanism, which is a good thing, especially in the long run. Scientific papers can be released before and after peer reviews, and can be countered by subsequent peer reviewed papers. It's a relatively slow process to fact check research results but over time the body of factual knowledge grows. So at some point a new tweet related to one or more categories (a tweet involving politics and law for instance) can be tested against the large body of verified factual tweets in those categories.

Ironically Elon's own Tweets need these Birdwatch notes

Pretty sure the Community Notes feature was being created well before Elon become the owner of Twitter. It even came out just after he took over, which is impossible for him to even force as a top priority project.

didn't channels like these freak out when community notes came about because "they were alt-right"

community notes is goated ngl

One very important thing to improve is include community members from all kinds of locations and ethnicities

Note to self: The best way to get rich is to get other people to create you content and others to fact tjek that content, and the stand back and denied any responsibility.

Main issue: It only works if the average person is intellegent enough to know what's fact and what isn't. Considering IQ has been going down over the last couple of decades I wouldn't put much faith in this system. lol

This is such a good idea KZfaq should definitely add this and also on their ads (and bring back dislike counter)

Thank you, this was a very informative video on the topic. I hope these notes receive a wider adoption.

Notes have gotten it wrong on many occasions and staff at twitter/Elon have known to pull the notes if they dont agree with them so its just another day on the internet mate.

It still baffles me how people still put Elon in a pedestal and claim he is some tech genius, this is the only not bad change that has been implemented. But as said in the video, it can be manipulated or suddenly disappear.

best feature of twitter by far

Community Notes - a rare Twitter W

Elon killed Twitter...

"One of the advantages of traditional fact checking is that it is coming from an established authority with a known identity." *Proceeds to show a screenshot of Snopes* Whew man: and I thought some of Riley's jokes were stinkers.

I wanted to say I want this feature in Facebook but then I remembered that I want Meta to removed from this damn planet 🤬

I've seen quite a few of the notes and it's links being complete bs with correcting a post

The problem is that these notes can be revoked at any time if the man-child ceo doesn't like it.

I love the washing done saying community notes is saving the internet when we wouldnt need them if dude didnt ruin verification and boost the worst forms of information spreading

Community Notes is a great feature. I’d like one that bans bots next

At last, xkcd's cartoon of "Someone is wrong on the internet" becomes reality.

No matter how much you hate musk you gotta admit the community notes feature is genius.

Quoting wikipedia as "reliable" source...

Back in my day Linus said there would never be ads in the middle of a Techquickie video!

I just hope they make sure that there is enough correcters from all sides of political spectrum and that when there is not enough people of one side, the system will give more vote weight to the smaller side.

Where are the anti-misinformation stickies under twitter's CEO's posts?

This system is a significant improvement over Jack Dorsey's approach to (shadow) ban everyone who didn't align with his left-leaning views.