Are We WRONG About Molten Freddy?! | FNAF Theory

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RyeToast

RyeToast

Күн бұрын

Like I said in the video, while I think this theory is really narratively satisfying, and honestly I kind of prefer this timeline to the ACTUAL FNAF timeline, but most realistically, I feel like the traditional MoltenMCI theory is probably more accurate. At least, FNAF 6 seems to be screaming that answer to us. As unfortunate as that might be. Frankly, there’s a part of me that thinks the original story was planned to just have one missing child incident at the FNAF 2 location, and have one set of souls. However, GO GO GO accidentally shows the first location. So now we have two I guess lol.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:22 What is the Missing Children Incident in FNAF?
01:53 How many missing children are in FNAF?
04:12 What did Molten Freddy come from?
05:03 What is the MoltenMCI Theory in FNAF?
06:24 Problems with the MoltenMCI Theory.
07:28 What’s up with the Toy Animatronics in FNAF 2?
08:15 How does the ToyMCI Molten Freddy change the FNAF Timeline?
10:39 Problems with the MoltenToyMCI Theory.
11:44 Outro
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The style of this video is similar to Fuhnaff, Pastra, FusionZGamer, and uhyeah. A large influence on this channel has been the ooftroop, Wendigoon, Game Theory, Markiplier, and Dawko.
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@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
***I MISSPOKE IN THIS VIDEO*** before you all correct me, when I say the games happen in order, I meant specifically the minigames. That's my fault. I thought context made that clear. obviously the FNAF games in the franchise don't happen consecutively, I just mean the follow me minigames happen sequentially. My mistake
@darthcicc2857
@darthcicc2857 Жыл бұрын
Question isn't molten freddy made up of ennard except baby from sister location
@rafaelrivera7594
@rafaelrivera7594 Жыл бұрын
Theres a problem when you mentioned the mangle part also the toys seem to NOT be possesed except puppet the withereds mangle and maybe the shadow also its heavely inplied that mangle is possesed by susies dog thanks to the fnaf 6 minigame
@rafaelrivera7594
@rafaelrivera7594 Жыл бұрын
Also its unknown what ending in fnaf 3 is canon but it seems that the bad ending is canon cassidy is with evan or how i call him cc also it seems that the spirit that are possesing the originals get fused with the funtimes also there another problem fnaf 2 is prequel of fnaf 1 so that maybe means there are 3 missing children cases and the original kids posses the animatronic in the new pizzaria and it is unknown if the original ghost now if evan exist
@Ausoedcean
@Ausoedcean Жыл бұрын
What about pupet though wasn't he free in happies day though we still se him in Fnaf 6
@Koko-_-..
@Koko-_-.. Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelrivera7594 evan or Christopher or C.C or whatever ya wanna call him, is a spirit he died in fnaf 4 Right?
@karaesthetic
@karaesthetic Жыл бұрын
theory: fredy
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
True
@muhammet_arda_kederli
@muhammet_arda_kederli Жыл бұрын
Thery:feddy
@FirstClassScents
@FirstClassScents Жыл бұрын
🤔
@oh.hey.2045
@oh.hey.2045 Жыл бұрын
How thought invoking
@Ashly-28
@Ashly-28 Жыл бұрын
Woah jeez that's a long theory it took me 5 minutes to read
@laotasurfs1110
@laotasurfs1110 Жыл бұрын
"Narratively satisfying but lots of holes in it" describes most of the popular fan theories. I suspect this is what keeps us from solving FNAF mysteries and figuring out the grander narrative: our desire to make it satisfying. Like, I *seriously* believe the true story is something closer to Sea Bonnies and Faz-Goo in terms of narrative satisfaction.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
Here's the most narrowly satisfying story rabbit fans make Scott cawthon keep making more games because you know he always wanted to be a game developer and now he has his chance and this also makes money which is always good but he ends up making a tidal wave of lure because he's making this up as he goes along
@marsverb
@marsverb Жыл бұрын
It's a fictional story's job to be narratively satisfying, so if the "grander narrative" is not satisfying, then I'm sorry, it's not a good narrative. At some point, you either have to be happy with something that isn't airtight, or admit that the people crafting this lore are just bad storytellers.
@jasonallen6918
@jasonallen6918 11 ай бұрын
Narratively satisfying is not how I would describe instead I describe it a narratively frustrating because it feels like a big middle finger in my opinion anyway.
@oliversievanen8554
@oliversievanen8554 Жыл бұрын
Came for the fnaf theory. Stayed for the sweet cat. Subbed for the good content.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thank so much! Glad you liked it
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna ruin the 69 likes- but just know, I like this comment, count it as 70. xD
@abdul-azizcheffou8816
@abdul-azizcheffou8816 Жыл бұрын
Literally me in February
@l.a.wright6912
@l.a.wright6912 Жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz you're good now. He's at 399
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
@@l.a.wright6912 thanks for the update, just liked it- xD
@hungriaiaro
@hungriaiaro Жыл бұрын
6:41 The current theory is that he destroyed the animatronics, collected their remnant, then he came back to seal the safe room. However, the agony of the souls were there, which makes him wear the springbonnie suit and get springlocked
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
I see. I guess It's just a matter of what makes more sense to you personally for that specific instance
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
To collect remnant, u need to melt metal possessed by a soul. If you harvest remnant from something, the soul is turned to a liquid metal, so if he harvested the remnant, he would've burmed them, and there wouldn't be any ghosts to scare him into springbonnie. Plus, he already had remnant at this point, since he survives in springtrap.
@seanlahti7543
@seanlahti7543 Жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz I totally agree, but I think the last bit of what you said is slightly in accurate. I think it's more likely that he didn't have remnant with him when he got springlocked, but instead his soul became remnant when he was springlocked.
@righthandman7330
@righthandman7330 Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast nothing makes sense tbh
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
@@SuperBlueGamer9000 the bodies weren't shoved in the suits, just the soul went into the animatronics, this happens a lot, especially in the books.
@bubbleshock14
@bubbleshock14 Жыл бұрын
Charlotte also remained as well, as made pretty clear in ffps. Maybe she stayed because she knew / sensed that the second set of missing children were also trapped
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
It's definitely possible
@LifegameZanimations
@LifegameZanimations Жыл бұрын
but charlie became puppet, then lefty
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
@@LifegameZanimations yeah, and charlotte's soul in Lefty stayed- "I should've known you wouldn't be content to disappear, not my daughter". "I Knew you would return as well, it's in your nature to protect, the innocent". Charlotte's soul stayed behind to protect the souls, and weren't content to disappear, knowing they weren't put to rest.
@LifegameZanimations
@LifegameZanimations Жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz despite charlie being like 3 years old (is cannon she was 3) she was still big sis for every soul who died at a fazbears location
@idioticlight
@idioticlight Жыл бұрын
@@LifegameZanimations i never heard that she was 3
@snowstorm209
@snowstorm209 Жыл бұрын
I always assumed the sister location animatronics were powered by remnant AGONY and not necessarily the spirits of the 5 missing children. The sister location animatronics seem to act like they are programmed to kill kids, but hate Afton for leaving them down there for so long.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
That is possible to be honest, it's hard to tell sometimes
@charliekahn4205
@charliekahn4205 Жыл бұрын
Sister Location contains the tech that separates the FNaF timeline from ours starting around 1992 or so. William Afton is so obsessed with animatronics and free-moving robots that he ends up making that paradigm replace the personal computer. So he was probably experimenting with AI at the time.
@Lucas.Blevins
@Lucas.Blevins Жыл бұрын
I like this theory a lot! Much better than the conventional only one event theory.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Well thank you!
@venomfan2020
@venomfan2020 Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast 1. Ennard is Molten Freddy is Blob. 2. What's the cat's name?
@ethanlukemapanao6682
@ethanlukemapanao6682 Жыл бұрын
no matpat is wrong
@__Soya__
@__Soya__ 11 ай бұрын
​@@venomfan2020I agree but what is he wrong about
@ToaArcan
@ToaArcan Жыл бұрын
I actually really like this theory. It always bothered me that the original MCI victims apparently somehow came back to possess the Funtimes when we saw them ascend in FnaF3. Especially because that's chronologically the last point we see Golden Freddy/Fredbear able to manifest IRL, it feels a little weird for only one half of Golden Freddy's combined form to ascend and the others choose to stay. I also think it devalues Charlotte and the Vengeful Spirit/Cassidy hanging around after Happiest Day a little if everybody except Crying Child/"Evan" also decides to do the same and then get fused into a spagoot bear for reasons. Charlotte stays behind to hinder William and protect others, and Cassidy remains because they just can't let go and refuse to let William have any rest, ever, leading to UCN. They both have solid motivations to do so, and it fits their respective endings in FNaF6 and UCN too: Charlotte burns in the fire that consumes the last Freddy's location, as Henry frees the soul of his daughter and finally allows her to rest. Cassidy has long-stopped manifesting in reality at that point, maybe they can't make Fredbear do the thing anymore now that Evan's gone, but they're waiting to drag William into the pit and torment his soul for the rest of eternity. But hey, there's these five other kids who were left unaccounted for after FNaF2, and we never saw them freed. Them being the ones who William used to make the Funtimes, and then being freed along with fellow FNaF2 alum Charlotte neatly clears that up.
@tomkubus
@tomkubus Жыл бұрын
The MCI where actually confirmed to be in the funtimes, the happiest day is also cofnrjemd to be at the end of the timeline, the earliest it can be from what we saw is after fnaf ar Also there's only 1 spirit in golden freddy
@punusername3445
@punusername3445 Жыл бұрын
@@tomkubus Evan and Cassidy both inhabit Golden Freddy, it's really in your face
@TrickyTurtle123
@TrickyTurtle123 Жыл бұрын
@@punusername3445 ​ no. There is only Cassidy in golden Freddy. C.C is already free unless you believe bv5th but thats a whole can of worms. Goldenduo sadly doesn’t work. C.C if he would posses anything he would most likely posses the fredbearplush. Golden duo is really in your face. Golden Freddy being possed by one spirt. Its in front of your face.
@punusername3445
@punusername3445 Жыл бұрын
@@TrickyTurtle123 how would he be free but need the happiest day minigame to be freed?
@punusername3445
@punusername3445 Жыл бұрын
@@TrickyTurtle123 besides, in the same Happiest Day minigame we see him leave behind a golden freddy mask, him and Cassidy were in Golden Freddy together for a while
@skycreeper0173
@skycreeper0173 Жыл бұрын
So, just to summarize, the theory explains that the remnant of the Toy animatronics possessed the Funtimes instead of the OG souls. Awesome video. Even though MoltenMCI is confusing as heck, this theory helps make that idea a bit more understandable.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And yep that's what I'm saying. The rest of MoltenMCI stays the same, just switching the souls that kick it off
@funtime_julia_arts2316
@funtime_julia_arts2316 Жыл бұрын
I also got confused with the hole molten mci theory in my opinion I don’t really think that the og souls remnant was inside of molten Freddy at all, the toy mci makes much more sense then the og’s or there are newer souls in ft Freddy mostly in the funtimes since that the Freddy files updated version not the ultimate but the second one it said “you also learn that molten Freddy still contains the souls of ballora, funtime freddy and funtime foxy” if they meant remnant it would’ve said remnant it is possible that molten Freddy has remnant and souls, here’s just an theory of mine about mrs Afton some people are saying that she oofed herself but the game didn’t really specify of how she did it or if she even did it because there’s al lot of ways to oof but what if mrs Afton oofed herself inside of funtime freddy we know that there can fit an teenager/ adult inside of funtime freddy because of the frights story count the ways but there’s not enough evidence on this either but I think it’s kinda make sense
@bluefreddygaming9025
@bluefreddygaming9025 Жыл бұрын
@@funtime_julia_arts2316 i like to think william's wife actully died in a car crush, basically the reason why i think is i think is because after elizabeth died by one of william's robots, william and his wife went in some sort of arguement, that arguement went way too far and william said something that he shouldn't have said so she leaves the house and goes into her car, crying tears and trying to get as far as possible but suddenly the street lights turn red and a car crushed into her, later on, william heard what happened and came to the hospital, suddenly his wife was dying of blood loss, william was really depressed about this so he collected remanet and his wife's soul before she could die even tho he didn't want to do so after that, he putted her soul into the ballora animtronic but this made this worse for her now the reason ballora stayyed in the molten freddy body is because ballora felt hatred towards william for what he did to her and everyone else in that body felt hatred too but elizabeth didn't, elizabeth was that kind of person who wanted to make her daddy proud and the reason aswell for why molten freddy didn't attack scraptrap at some point? It is because molten freddy did not know william was in there with them, all they wanted is kill You and escape the building to search william but henry wanted all the souls that are filled with anger and vengence And burn them all, henry's plan worked for the most of them expect one, WILLIAM and the reason i like to think is, i know there is no evidence but i like to think that william had a father, his name was... walter afton and walter afton was the one who did all of this, planned for all of this to happen, walter afton could see a future he was heading for, a perfect future so he used william afton as a slave, someone to follow orders, william the whole time thought he was doing the right thing and making his father proud but this whole time, he was used and the blob in security breach was a thing used to collect something called agony from the OG animtronics and past robots that had agony, once all agony was collected, only william's was left, walter afton brought william back as burntrap and i like to think that how william afton was able to escape cassidy's hell is because william was freed by walter, walter who became glitchtrap with more a physical body destoryed everyone there and collected everyone's souls even cassidy's in his own body, glitchtrap then inside his body was slowlu corrputting them and glitchtrap later on made vanny make burntrap using glamrock bonnie's parts after tampering with monty and making him attack glamrock bonnie, then the remains of the corpse from the fnaf 6 location, william was recreated as burntrap and william after getting choked by the blob, then after the fire, william survived the blob but in the end to be killed by walter afton and get his agony and soul collected, and the reason why cirus baby's eyes went black and killed elizabeth, the fredbear bite, the car crush, corrputting william's mind with lies He was the reason for all this tradgey but walter in the past used to love william and he still did but he cared for a better future, a future for himself, a path that he followed now i dont know if this is true or not but this is my theory for basically everything and explain a few questions
@funtime_julia_arts2316
@funtime_julia_arts2316 Жыл бұрын
@@bluefreddygaming9025 I do believe that ballora holds mrs Afton soul, but I don’t think it was an car crash
@synovelle
@synovelle Жыл бұрын
The Toys bieing haunted has always been in my belief, it was always sound to me that the "glitch" in the facial AI software was literally just the child spirits getting confused because they're 1) angry and 2) literal children.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
My theory is the guy we know who makes murderbots turn them into murderbots that's also my theory on why Fred Bear had enough jaw strength to crush a child's skull aubergine m***********
@r4v3naris76
@r4v3naris76 Жыл бұрын
Your tiny cat man always makes your videos so much more worthwhile. Love the new theory, despite the holes. Always interesting
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like him too!! And thanks!
@leen8430
@leen8430 Жыл бұрын
Is there anything better than logging on after a long day at work and finding a new FNAF theory video? Thanks, RyeToast, this was exactly what I needed. Never stop theorizing!
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm glad I could be a part of your day!!
@shellyvision9693
@shellyvision9693 Жыл бұрын
Hear me out, the reason the original missing children incident 1 kids are brought up so much in fnaf 6, is because they’re physically present. They’re the Rockstars. An unused line in Fnaf AR basically outright says this, stating that “Rockstar Bonnie was made from the parts of the original Bonnie.” I think Gabriel, Jeremy, Susie, and Fritz all are in control of the Rockstars. Hell, I think it’s likely that all the stage animatronics are possessed. Mr. Hippo tells stories of his and Orville’s lives, implying that they were once regular people. Music Man and Funtime Chica are Funtime Animatronics, which were sent out to collect remnant, likely by killing kids. Of course that leaves El Chip with no definitive proof either way but if the rest are possessed than he probably is too.
@MrBearHands
@MrBearHands Жыл бұрын
Quick note: Afton did start his own company with the intent of gathering more children's souls for making remnant. The issue is it goes sideways when his daughter gets got by Baby. This might have been what Afton was doing while the old animatronics were being brought back out and then left behind again. It wouldn't make sense for him to wait so long that the building fell into a state of disrepair to go and take them apart if that's all he wanted. This gives him ample time to set up and launch his own franchise, have it fail, then have a bunker constructed and the fun times moved there.
@kittykat1791
@kittykat1791 Жыл бұрын
I always thought the Funtimes were made from the melted down toy animatronics, there definitely was a murder spree that happened in '87 because of the phone calls and the minigame, and it just made sense that is where that remnant came from. Great explanation!
@JosiahHerring
@JosiahHerring Жыл бұрын
My theory is that the bad ending of FNAF 3 is canon, and that's why they are still around in FNAF 6. I'd say the hole in that theory is the mini game that places a second missing children incident in the FNAF 2 location, but I honestly don't know enough to figure out any other answer.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
I feel like that makes more sense, but then why does the good ending say "The End" instead of good? Idk, it feels final
@skelebonez1349
@skelebonez1349 Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast true… though to counter this, the real ending for SL was playing it straight up Kinda like fnaf 3
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
My theory is that the missing children disappeared we're freed but Charlie and Afton both survived the fire because they were there as the puppet and springtrap did you know the puppet was infinite three but yeah so Charlie and the aubergine f*** survive William is like haha I always come back Charlie is like f*** I'm still alive and so they just wander around doing whatever until Lefty snags the puppet and William goes in becomes a peanut and then they meet ennard now separated into scrap baby and molten Freddy and what is molten Freddy isn't a person but instead just left over Agony from the few leftover bits of circus baby and the agonizing death of Michael Afton of having his guts ripped out and having entered crawl inside of him
@redgiant7747
@redgiant7747 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know who he is but he’s a pain in the ass when I’m trying to order cups.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
FOR REAL IM SO BAD AT THIS GAME
@Dj-bt4yp
@Dj-bt4yp Жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO FRRRRR
@boringpileofbones
@boringpileofbones Жыл бұрын
the mentioned references to the MCI1 might just be backstory for why henry did this, or just symbolism for how molten freddy and scrap child are moving on just like the first 5 and the graves might be extra confusion because scott can draw attention out of infinitely expanding lore
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
What do YOU Think Molten Freddy is? Want to join a growing horror gaming community? Click here! bit.ly/3bD1O0c Timestamps: Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:22 What is the Missing Children Incident in FNAF? 01:53 How many missing children are in FNAF? 04:12 What did Molten Freddy come from? 05:03 What is the MoltenMCI Theory in FNAF? 06:24 Problems with the MoltenMCI Theory. 07:28 What’s up with the Toy Animatronics in FNAF 2? 08:15 How does the ToyMCI Molten Freddy change the FNAF Timeline? 10:39 Problems with the MoltenToyMCI Theory. 11:44 Outro
@HeavenLeahSky
@HeavenLeahSky Жыл бұрын
What's the difference between being melting down and being burned? I'm confused about how the remnant would be able to survive one but not the other.
@venomfan2020
@venomfan2020 Жыл бұрын
I thought Molten Freddy was Ennard
@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19
@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19 Жыл бұрын
@@venomfan2020 he is ennard he and ennard are the same entity
@shibauni9766
@shibauni9766 Жыл бұрын
@@venomfan2020 they are the same but with out Elizabeth/baby they are no longer ennard
@dmike_playz5627
@dmike_playz5627 Жыл бұрын
Isn't FNAF 2 before FNAF 1?
@PersonianOld
@PersonianOld Жыл бұрын
This was a really interesting one! It's nice to see new takes and theories coming up about characters we have known since 2017! I really hope that Matpat brings this theory up in one of his videos because it would be really interesting to see his take on this theory! Also, were you the one who recorded 0:26? If that were you, I would recommend getting OBS and not Bandicam. OBS is 100% free with no watermark at all. If it wasn't you who recorded that, then... ignore me, I guess.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
No I actually downloaded it from KZfaq 😅 although I'm going to actually start trying to get my own BRoll soon!
@supermstash29
@supermstash29 Жыл бұрын
You’re great for a different look man I listen to lore more than personally piecing it together and you hit holes in Game Theory that I’ve seen too so it’s nice to see them fleshed out more since I don’t play the games myself (In general not this video specifically) :3
@m90sanimations56
@m90sanimations56 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, The First MCI has an exact date, June 26th 1985 The second, I have an estimate, if shit was already going wrong in early November of '87, I'd assume that at the time Jeremy Fitzgerald was working from the 9th to the 13th, I'd assume that in November 12-13th which was Phone Guys call that someone in the dayshift used the Spring Bonnie suit earlier that day. You mentioned that call in 2:31, in that case, on that said date he killed the kids (He being William) and Save Them happened before Jeremy arrived to the restaurant for his shift
@theshadowofmango9209
@theshadowofmango9209 Жыл бұрын
The MCI date is from the books right?
@Username-pz1te
@Username-pz1te Жыл бұрын
Interesting theory, but I disagree. First, to fix the problems with the original MoltenMCI, it states that William only took their endoskeletons when he melted them. In TFC, because of William using the remnant the kids spirits split. The kids spirits are only able to be freed once they are put back together. This provides an explanation for how they appear in the saferoom. Their spirits split and part of them were in the Funtimes, the other was in the saferoom. For the part about William dying in the saferoom, the explanation is simple. In between night 4 and 5 (I think it was 4 and 5) William took the endos, took them to CBEAR and melted them down, then went back to the location, most likely for Springbonnie as the children trust Springbonnie in TFC, so it might be the same for the games. For the part about fnaf 3s ending, Scott actually said which ending is canon. He said that it was more complicated than this ending was canon Vs that ending was canon. MoltenMCI provides an explanation. Happiest Day was going to be set up but because their spirits were split, they couldn’t move on. Also, the problem with the blob just being agony is that William says “the spirits follow the flesh, and also the pain” showing that the thing that causes possession is either them being stuffed or their agony. Meaning that the blob can’t just be agony because if it had their agony, the souls would be there too. Now one of the problems I have with this theory is that in Henry’s speech he actively groups together Follow Me and remnant going into the Funtimes. “He lured them all back. Back to a familiar place. Back with familiar tricks. He brought them all together”. Throughout this quote Henry talks about Follow Me, the familiar place being the saferoom where they were murdered and familiar tricks being them being lured to the saferoom. The thing is, he also says that William brought them all together. This only happens during MoltenMCI. If you look at how it’s phrased, he says back to a familiar place then stops in a sentence as if a period is there. He does the same thing when saying he brought them all together. Not to mention the only things he really talks about in the speech are Follow Me and MoltenMCI besides mentioning Charlottes death. This should give a hint to how Follow Me and MoltenMCI are connected. For the part about the grave scene, note how you get that scene after the lore ending, not the normal ending. I believe that the lore ending isn’t canon, rather an alternate ending where TOYSHK doesn’t keep William alive during UCN, rather let’s him die and in this ending all the spirits get freed. Either way this could just be showing the future for when they get freed after the events of the next few games. Unlike Happiest Day, where we actively see it happening during fnaf 3, these gravestones appear as an after scene and don’t necessarily need to happen right after fnaf 6. Side note but you mention fnaf world but also that Happiest Day is being set up for BV because he is a lost and scared soul. The thing is, Fnaf World heavily implies that it was BV who set up the minigames in the first place in a world called the flipside. This means that A) the minigames aren’t in the arcades, but rather in the flipside and B) that BV isn’t the scared soul that you describe him as (give the man some credit) rather now more determined to help his friends, regardless of whether or not he gets freed during Happiest Day (which I don’t believe he is the soul there, I don’t even think BV possesses GF but okay) Edit: also, what music do you use at 5:00 in the video? I’ve heard it a bit but never knew where it came from
@mrb5940
@mrb5940 Жыл бұрын
I don't completely agree with the theory, but I did liked it, you did convinced me that there were 2 missing children incidents tho I do however think that the Funtime have remanent collected from killing children when they are being shipped to parties, which would make them even more messed up since any funtime would have possibily multiple souls in them, possibly even fragments of some stored on different bodies and so on
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
See that's possible but I'm not sure how probable it is, ONLY because we don't see any hints of the other funtimes doing this. Just Circus Baby
@mrb5940
@mrb5940 Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast that's actually a really good point Perhaps that was the plan but Elizabeth's death kinda destroyed all of that, lol
@Chikara_Ketsugo
@Chikara_Ketsugo Жыл бұрын
That would make so much sense for tape girl. Cassidy attaches to William to make sure he doesn’t do more killing, and watches all of the events unfold from William’s perspective. When William dies, Cassidy tortured him, but he’s able to come back from Fazbear Entertainment using old circuit boards to create a vr game. Cassidy could be the mysterious tape girl instructing us on how to kill afton, but it’s too late and he escapes. She sees this and enters the Princess Quest mini games to stop William, but it fails, he is released out in Burntrap, but gets finessed by Gregory and burns with the Blob.
@Kikus-lf6kr
@Kikus-lf6kr Жыл бұрын
I think the toy's reason to behave that way is because of "agony", you know that thing from the books, which isn't souls like remnant? Like "Oh there's no need for a child to be inside that animal-like monster, they can just be haunted by frickin emotions and get shit agressive and behave like a wild predator!" Or something along that, but I find your point quite interesting, I thought about this agony thing because I thought the kiddies killed were only the known 6... but if there's things to point towards more kiddies strangled, then yeah, those toys could very well be haunted by kids! But I want to know, who tf raised their kid to crawl on the ceiling? I want to learn your ways.
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
You know I always thought that you know the toys are machines murderous machines and you know what else are murderous machines the fun times and you know who made the fun times and probably had access to the toys the aubergine scented m*********** William the trash rabbit Afton
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 Жыл бұрын
Children who learn to crawl when their could apply that skill on basically any surface as a poltergeist
@robby7499
@robby7499 Жыл бұрын
My mind would always reboot itself trying to figure out the lore.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Same though
@DecoySammy
@DecoySammy Жыл бұрын
That was one of the best theories I've heard in a while. But you said that the MCI were in the funtimes as i get that it makes sense, what about Elizabeth? We know that multiple souls could be in an animatronic but even Mr. Afton wouldn't put his daughter with the others, right? Well, its a great theory overall but has some flaws.. Heh, thats just the FNaF Lore, innit?
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
I think the idea is all of the funtimes except Baby since she's already possessed
@Sakuracat11
@Sakuracat11 Жыл бұрын
I really liked this theory! It felt very narratively satisfying and could potentially be an explanation for that enigma introduced in FNAF World where the fixed version of the Mangle was called "Funtime Foxy" instead of Toy Foxy. It's still a little messy, but perhaps the original version of the animatronic was called Funtime Foxy, then became the Mangle, then the parts were melted down and William rebuilt the animatronic into an improved version of Funtime Foxy, then bases the other of the Sister Location animatronics off that theme. Either way, you provided a lot of good points to consider!
@questionableheathen
@questionableheathen Жыл бұрын
Omg your cat is so adorable! I love your theory videos too! They've always been satisfying with the level of depth and detail they go into :)
@Sivanot
@Sivanot Жыл бұрын
Okay, im fairly convinced there was a second MCI then, and i do really like this. My only problem with this though, is the idea of Michael Afton being the secruity guard at the end of Fnaf 2 and through Fnaf 1. The "Odor" mentioned as part of his reason for being fired. Obviously originally meant as just a dumb joke by Scott, I'm pretty sure it was retconned to be because he's literally a walking corpse (ignoring the near impossibility of getting a job without that being noticed but I digress.) Even ignoring the Odor thing, Michael going into the Sister Location was part of why he was trying to find William. I'm not sure how this timeline works if Michael only went there around the time of William being springlocked. Am I missing something?
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
William does get spring locked long before FNAF 3, and I'm pretty sure that in the sister locations secret ending scene, Michael mentions that William said Elizabeth would be down in sister location. So it's possible he just went there to find Elizabeth. But if William told him that, he would have had to be alive, right? I'm not sure, it's confusing
@Sivanot
@Sivanot Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast Exactly, I know that William gets springlocked years before the events of Fnaf 3, but that still has to be after Fnaf 1, as you've said in the video. William had to tell Michael to check out the Sister Location, resulting in Michael becoming a walking corpse and hunting his father down, leading to him being the nightgaurd in Fnaf 2 and 1 (likely finding him and attempting to burn him in Fnaf 3.) Meaning Sister Location has to happen before 2,1, and obviously 3. I will add though, there's no guarantee Michael went down immediately after being told by William. Maybe it took him a while to work up the nerve, or maybe he only did it after William disappears. So there's definitely some issues to work out here, but I think this is on the right track!
@Username-pz1te
@Username-pz1te Жыл бұрын
Actually, the odor doesn’t have to mean that Michael is already dead. Phone Guy mentions how the animatronics smell really bad (because they had corpses stuffed into them), so this could be the reason for Michaels odour. For the second part, it could be that his motivation just isn’t what we thought. We are never explicitly told his motivation, for all we know Michael was working at the first 2 locations to observe the animatronics for William, then he wants to free the spirits as shown in fnaf 3 after going to sister location and realizing that he wasn’t doing good working for Afton.
@Username-pz1te
@Username-pz1te Жыл бұрын
@@sunnyisabunny1479 we know that he’s the player of fnaf 4 and 1, given how in fnaf 4 you get the fnaf 1 phone call Easter egg, which we only ever see heard by Mike Schmidt. Given how Mike Schmidt is connected the nightmares and the nightmares are connected to fnaf 4, we can assume that Mike Schmidt has experienced something in fnaf 4 in some way. Meaning that he is Michael. We also know that the fnaf 3 guard is most likely Michael as we see the fnaf 3 guard freeing the spirits in Fazbear’s Fright. I don’t see who else would be willing or able to do it. Fritz Smith is a strange case. He doesn’t get a phone call and is somehow able to beat 4/20 mode despite it being his first night. But Fritz Smith still has connections to Mike Schmidt. Mike and Smith are English names, while Schmidt and Fritz are apparently German. These shows a connection between the 2. Not to mention that they both tamper with the animatronics for some reason. That being said, I am not sure if Fritz Smith is Michael, he’s the only one I’m not sure about, it’s just what most of the community believes
@plantainsame2049
@plantainsame2049 Жыл бұрын
There's a problem with Michael being the Garden FNAF two he would have probably have still been young he was like 12 in 4 because I hope no kid older than that is stupid enough to shove their brother into a robot mouth so it would have been like 17 In 87 and I doubt William would let him near any murderbots cuz it's already suspicious enough that he lost two kids if he loses the third one and also works in the place where multiple children have gone missing people are going to start putting things together
@bluegold1026
@bluegold1026 Жыл бұрын
Another well thought out and clearly presented theory vid as always! Could it be possible the the second MCI kids are the first ones to be set free and the first MCI kids, for whatever reason, still want vengeance and they stick around until FNAF 6? Obviously Cassidy refuses to move on, thus the creation of UCI.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
I mean it's possible that happiest day would be the second set of kids, the only problem with that is that Evan makes more sense to be with the first set.
@Username-pz1te
@Username-pz1te Жыл бұрын
@@sunnyisabunny1479 in the timeline the first mci was first. In between Fredbears and the fnaf 2 location there was another location, which was the fnaf 1 location. It got reopened after the fnaf 2 location closed and that’s where we see the gameplay of fnaf 1. It was at this location where the newspaper mci happened. We know this because Phone Guy mentions doors and lights in fnaf 2, something that was only a feature in fnaf 1 as far as we’re aware, and the fnaf 1 location has a saferoom as shown in Follow Me. We hear in the fnaf 3 tapes that the saferoom was sealed before fnaf 2 , as the tapes talk about the spring lock animatronics being able to walk around during the day, which isn’t a feature in the fnaf 2 location and Phone Guy calls it a Freddy’s location. This is the reason why there isn’t one in fnaf 2. Fazbear Entertainment wouldn’t add another saferoom just to not use it, meaning that this location was the first Freddy’s location reopened
@Username-pz1te
@Username-pz1te Жыл бұрын
@@sunnyisabunny1479 No problem
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
Instead of " first MCI and Second MCI" can we just say: "Fnaf 1 MCI" And "Fnaf 2 MCI"? xD
@Username-pz1te
@Username-pz1te Жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz they actually do have different names, we have the MCI for the fnaf 1 location murders and the DCI for the fnaf 2 location murders. DCI stands for dead childrens incident because the children are spread around the building and aren’t exactly missing. Those terms aren’t popular on KZfaq, but they are on Reddit
@beargreen1
@beargreen1 Жыл бұрын
FNAF never fails to stump people
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Right??
@tupkocio834
@tupkocio834 Жыл бұрын
dudeee congrats on your 25k subscriber milestone! i wish you good luck on 100k subs
@indygo_art
@indygo_art Жыл бұрын
I like your theories, they make me consider different perspectives. And your cat is so adorable
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! And I know right??
@gamingtmans6692
@gamingtmans6692 Жыл бұрын
I do really like this theory since the first MC1 kids and their stories were neatly wrapped up in fnaf 3 while the toy animatronics are still a loose end. The amount of MC1 imagery in pizzeria sim does go against it tho
@regzlots
@regzlots Жыл бұрын
you have the best theory videos on FNAF on youtube. you're the only FNAF youtuber who isn't beating a dead horse and bringing something original and new, your ideas are so original it's so refreshing to have "new" fnaf content that isn't the same 6 theories done by every fnaf channel. i would subscribe to your patreon if i had the money. love u sir rye toast !! keep up the good work
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I try my best
@mattrex__
@mattrex__ Жыл бұрын
Bro you have grown so much this year! I remember when you had like 1k subs and now you are at 24k! keep up the great content
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! And it's crazy right?
@mattrex__
@mattrex__ Жыл бұрын
yeah!
@aoiasahinashusband
@aoiasahinashusband Жыл бұрын
HE RECOGNIZED EVAN, MCI87, AND THE INCONSISTENCIES WITH MOLTENMCI85. i believe this theory, I have always said moltenMCI is impossible, and how the toy animatronics are possesed. never thought about moltenMCI87 though. great theory.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! It makes a lot of sense, but fnaf6 seems to dispute it
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast I always thought that the Remmnant that the Funtime animitronics had came from entirely separate children victims. They were literally built to capture/kill children, and there is a suspicious looking figure in some blueprints for Funtime Freddy. As a side note, I'm not sure that all of the Funtime animatronics are fueled by Remmnant. In the Freddy Files, there is a mention about how Baby and Ballora lines have normal dialouge, while Funtime Freddy's lines sound to be pre-recorded. This seems like an interesting detail to point out in an official FNAF book about the series. We know that Baby is possessed, so her speaking in non-recorded terms makes sense. But since Ballora also doesn't speak in pre-recorded audio, you could argue that she is also possessed, or otherwise has Remmnant in her. The other Funtime animatronics could just have their advanced AI, which is very murderous. Or Agony brought them to life. I personally believe in the first option, but the 2nd option could be plausible
@Ctsone2
@Ctsone2 Жыл бұрын
This theory (as well as every theory you do on fnaf) make so much sense and really clears up a lot of holes in the timeline, so keep up the good work!
@_Iecii
@_Iecii Жыл бұрын
Toast: Talking about child murder The cat just vibing:
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
🐈
@AlliroG98
@AlliroG98 10 ай бұрын
I think an alternate explanation for the toys acting wonky is the fact that the original four have likely been used for parts when making or repairing them
@TheWholeEntireCake
@TheWholeEntireCake Жыл бұрын
I was unaware that the theory consensus was that Molten Freddy was comprised of the missing children’s souls. Where was I when we were collectively deciding this as a community? 😶‍🌫️
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Lol maybe I overstated the consensus but it's what I usually see online
@TheWholeEntireCake
@TheWholeEntireCake Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast I imagine you scour far more sources/community platforms than I do so I definitely believe your theory Rye. I think that I’m not connecting the dots here but that I’m too focused on A = B and B = C ( meaning that I know Circus Baby’s, Balora’s, Funtime Foxy’s and Funtime Freddy’s remnant/guts went into Michael Afton’s scooped body as the hybrid Ennard. I know Ennard was ejected from Michael’s body into the sewer system. I know that Baby separated from Ennard and scrapped herself together in the sewer. The remaining souls inside the mass are FT Foxy and FT Freddy. So A = C; missing kid’s souls are inside Molten Freddy. So you are correct and it’s just my brain not connecting.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
@@TheWholeEntireCake no that's totally fine! If you want more info on how the MCI kids are involved I'd check out the reddit post in the card on the video, it's a great resource!
@charliebean_
@charliebean_ Жыл бұрын
Hate to be a nit picker, but, I'm like 90% sure the novel trilogy states that the funtimes/ enard/ molten freedy are made from the remnant of the original animatrnoics' endoskeltons. But I know you haven't read the books, and a lot of people don't like them, so I don't blame you.
@reptilerandykrusha6426
@reptilerandykrusha6426 Жыл бұрын
I always believed the Funtimes were possessed by the OG Missing Children even before I seen your comment on how it was hinted in one of the Books, but if they are in the Funtimes, how will the Second Set of Children stay relevant, then? It's really confusing... Because if we make the Second Set of Children possess the Funtimes, how will the OGs stay relevant, then? Fnaf is the worst when it comes to brain terrorism.
@charliebean_
@charliebean_ Жыл бұрын
@@reptilerandykrusha6426 the second set were never revalent.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
I mean I will read the books eventually, and I don't know if I won't like them or not. Really helpful to know though! I'll make a note of that. At this point I should read them anyway just because of how much information they have
@reptilerandykrusha6426
@reptilerandykrusha6426 Жыл бұрын
@@charliebean_ Well that fixes some things!
@charliebean_
@charliebean_ Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast alright so now that we're talking about the books, I'm also prettys sure that grFreedy's line about his friends being confused and angry is also from the book, but I've never seen someone mention it before
@foxygamer1515
@foxygamer1515 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s pretty interesting that the soul possessing mangle is what would be causing her to be able to climb on the ceiling. After all she doesn’t have suction cups on her feet and she isn’t really grabbing in to anything. Just magically connecting and un connecting from the ceiling at will like she was walking on the ground
@charliekahn4205
@charliekahn4205 Жыл бұрын
I think a decent way of making the lore stay on track is that in order to allow the player to stop playing through the series at any point, the bad ending of a game is canon to the next game at all times. That way, the souls move on when the player does.
@Alex-ul8te
@Alex-ul8te Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I thought the kids who possessed the funtimes were some random kids they lured with their programming. Also, one question: if the toys were possessed, and they were melted down, and built back as the funtimes, wouldn't that mean that circus baby is possessed by 2 spirits? I think might be another hole in the theory as well, because i think that spirit goes unacounted for, and as far as im aware, we haven't heard anything about that possibility.
@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19
@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19 Жыл бұрын
Nope because William already knows that Elizabeth is in cb because otherwise he wouldn't tell Michael tobget sister if he didn't knew so cb doesn't have two souls
@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19
@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19 Жыл бұрын
Oops I meant *to get in my previous comment grammar mistake-
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like the other comment said, the idea would be Circus Baby was not infused because she was already possessed
@Alex-ul8te
@Alex-ul8te Жыл бұрын
@@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19 so then where did this 4th spirit go? The only idea i can think of is that bon-bon would be possesed.
@hylianhero1921
@hylianhero1921 Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-ul8te it's likely. Bon Bon acts pretty possessed on night 3 of SL and actively jumpscares you in CN
@gayle225
@gayle225 Жыл бұрын
I think it's as simple as Henry saying that the one's Charlie carried in her arms are going to be put to rest when the fnaf 1 animatronics come on screen.
@matthew...4961
@matthew...4961 Жыл бұрын
That was great! Congratulations on the MatPat shout out btw! I've always had a weird theory Golden Freddy is the ghost of Fredbear 😆
@flamingphoenix1425
@flamingphoenix1425 Жыл бұрын
The spirits playing the arcade games to get the Happiest Day makes so much sense
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I hadn't seen it before
@abatonyt
@abatonyt Жыл бұрын
This theory fits too well great job :)
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@reptilerandykrusha6426
@reptilerandykrusha6426 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Theory as usual! Tho I have a few questions, however. 1: How do you think the Original Missing Children would stay relevant to the story? They _are_ the ones who started it all with the whole missing children incident trope so why would they go so early. 2: If the Puppet moved on with the other children, how is she in Fnaf 6? It doesn't need to be answered since Charlotte also could've done what Cassidy done and stayed to see if that bastard William is down for good. 3: (an interesting one at bet.) What do you think about the whole "Mrs. Afton in Ballora" theory? It's hinted in Security Breach as the Staff Bot that is supposed to be Mrs. Afton shares striking similarities to Ballora... Plus I have a personal theory myself that the Souls of Foxy/Mangle and Chica/Toy Chica both take hold of Funtime Foxy as a hivemind and Mrs. Afton would be the one to take over Ballora. (since it would be a nod to how Funtime Foxy has female traits but has a voice of a Male.) The FNAF Theories on this Channel is top notch imo, I strive to know these things I asked, especially the Ballora part! And what better way to find an answer than to ask this Channel, anyways, hope you see this! Sorry for the entire school essay btw lol.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! And in order 1. I'm not sure, their memory could be the reason why Michael wants to put William down so badly, but we don't really have a clear idea. 2. That's a great point, honestly, I'm not sure. I think what you suggested about pulling it. Cassidy might be the only explanation for that 3. Personally, I don't think Mrs. Afton is possessing ballora, but I do think ballora was made after Mrs. Afton. Sort of how circa's baby was made for Elizabeth, but not of Elizabeth.
@bon-bon8482
@bon-bon8482 Жыл бұрын
Here's what I think about the thing with the puppet mask dropping in the fnaf 3 mini game: Rather than the spirit moving on with the other children, it's the spirit transferring from the puppet, to lefty! Just a theory though
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 Жыл бұрын
@@bon-bon8482 but Lefty contains the Puppet animitronic inside of it. We can see this in both certain FNAF 6 screens, and in some blueprints on the Insanity ending. Also, take another look at the Happiest Day minigame. Notice how the Puppet's mask falls much slower than the others. This may suggest that the Puppet hasn't fully moved on
@andrew_animation
@andrew_animation Жыл бұрын
@@tinaherr3856 or that she passed on eventually, but took a while longer than the rest.
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 Жыл бұрын
@@andrew_animation I'm pretty sure that the FNAF 6 fire is what set her soul free. That was kind of the whole point in Henry's plan
@ShadowLibra
@ShadowLibra Жыл бұрын
YOOOOO awesome seeing one of my best friends getting a shout out from you!
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Well they were very helpful so I had to!
@UnderworldsHeiress
@UnderworldsHeiress Жыл бұрын
I always had this feeling that it had more incidents on Fazbear. I mean, only five missing children still closing many locations even after years of their disappearance that probably people didn't even remember? (I know the souls makes the animatronics go crazy but still... Is it enough to shut down every location? Specially if we consider it as a franchise like in the books...)
@TheThunderRabbit
@TheThunderRabbit Жыл бұрын
Hey Toast! It's always a good time when you post! Anyways, I really haven't seen a theory on this guy for a long time. Who else thinks we need more Molten Freddy merch? 😑
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Hey there! Thanks! And right? There are so many characters in this franchise that never got their time in the spotlight. Ennard's a huge one! They're such a cool design and character and we see them for like 10 minutes of the entire franchise
@quint2568
@quint2568 Жыл бұрын
The entire timeline is a bit wonky with Springtrap. If he is sealed inside the walled up room in the pizzeria for 30 years then how does that factor in to him being in newer games
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
So that's actually explained in FNAF 3. The haunted house in that game (sometime early 2020s) one of the phone calls says they broke down a false wall in an old pizzeria and found some new stuff. That night Springtrap shows up in game
@quint2568
@quint2568 Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast thing is we now have games that fill in the gap between afton being walled in and him being discovered, him being in UCN and SB. Unless they decide to take him back and wall him up again to be discovered in 2020s to be used in Fazbear frights.
@quint2568
@quint2568 Жыл бұрын
Unless Pizza sim, UCN, and SB all occur post Fazbear frights
@knightofblackfyre7950
@knightofblackfyre7950 Жыл бұрын
@@quint2568 they do take place after Fazbear firghts, after fazbear frights burns down Springtrap eventually ends up at the location of Pizzaria simulator, it's after Pizza sim that it gets wonky as last I checked (and I believe in it) UCN is Afton being tortured in hell/purgatory or just a coma. It doesn't get walled back up after Fnaf 3 just...wonders till he shows up during Pizzaria sim.
@Jackpot164
@Jackpot164 Жыл бұрын
I like how sir squaks and your Molten MCI theory’s fit together like 2 puzzle pieces
@duckman9327
@duckman9327 Жыл бұрын
Counter argument: the entirety of the insanity speech. That’s what the insanity speech was about, no clue how you missed that. Plus, why the hell would FE give the robots to one of the main suspects of the fnaf 2 MCI? That’s the whole reason Jeremy even worked there, they moved William to day shift then banned him when the kids died. So why would they then give their advanced tech to the guy who they didn’t want at their place. It seems very likely that follow me is how the sister location animatronics got possessed. “He set some kind of trap, I don’t know what it was, but he led them there. Again. Overpowered them. Again. And robbed them of the only thing that they had. Again.” -Henry, insanity ending
@burner555
@burner555 Жыл бұрын
Why not both sets? Molten Freddy rebuild him/themselves using scrap from old pizzerias and they're programmed to collect remnant/souls, something that the toy animatronic shelves would still have Sure, this idea has plotholes too, but it gives closure to DCI while also keeping MoltenMCI intact []You could combine MoltenVictim into this mess to have the whole Afton family in the building and giving BiteVictim closure too, but I don't think many fans would like this[]
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought about it like that. Interesting
@T-Rizzle
@T-Rizzle Жыл бұрын
Who else spaces out just staring at his cat?
@piercelindenberg6842
@piercelindenberg6842 Жыл бұрын
I’m not…against this theory, the idea of a second Missing Children’s Incident at the 1987 location makes sense. But there are established reasons for why the Toys do what they do in that universe: there are implications that Mangle is possessed by the spirit of Susie’s dog, which William stole and killed so he could lure Susie in. Otherwise, the Toys are questionably haunted. I was always under the impression that the Funtimes just have really advanced AI, and the Ennard/Molten Freddy later added on to themselves with the possessed parts of the original animatronics, or William left orders to other Afton Robotics workers to salvage the broken animatronics and create Remnant for the Funtimes. They might not have known what they were doing. That being said, given the designs of the Toys compared to the designs of the Funtimes, plus the advanced technology and programming that went into both of them, it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that Afton Robotics built the Toys for Fazbear Entertainment prior to being acquired by FE, presumably after William’s death and Michael’s scooping.
@Wyattporter
@Wyattporter Жыл бұрын
I left a comment on another of your videos which prompted me to write my own interpretation of the timeline. This video, though, convinced me that SL should take place after 2 and 1, since there’s not really any other way for the Candy Cadet stories to make sense. I still stand by my opinion that the FNAF3 night minigames show Afton dismantling the Toys, however.
@mugmannose
@mugmannose Жыл бұрын
I watched the 2 ads for you
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Bless up, thank you! I'm broke so it means a lot
@tav5125
@tav5125 Жыл бұрын
i think there is just no way the original souls are the ones in the funtimes. there just wasn't enough time between when he dismantled the fnaf 1 animatronics and when he died for him to build a entire set of animatronics, open a pizzeria, get his daughter killed, close that pizzeria, and open a service that lets people rent out those animatronics. and even if he somehow did all that, how would the spirits appear in the night five cutscene to scare william into the spring bonnie suit if they were trapped in the funtimes. it just doesn't make sense to me, just because that happened in the books doesn't make it cannon to the games.
@EvyDevy
@EvyDevy Жыл бұрын
The original 5 children helping Golden Freddy move doesn't really work since we actually help the other children as well. You can go to the Happiest Day minigame before completing all the minigames and see them eventually join. So it's not them and likely not the Puppet since we see a dead Puppet in the minigames as well. Personally, I think the bad ending is what is truly canon while the good ending isn't. (Which explains why Scott doesn't want to tell the fanbase that.) The only the person that makes sense helping the children is the MC of FNaF 3 I guess. Also, seeing as William told Micheal to go to the location, and put his sister back together, it's unlikely he went there due to the other funtimes or because William died.
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
Scott doesn't wanna tell the fanbase anything... he won't even confirm Mangle gender ;-;
@EvyDevy
@EvyDevy Жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz I mean to be fair, he went straight to memeing for that one.
@arandomguy6951
@arandomguy6951 Жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz He didn't confirm Mangle's gender becouse it doesn't have one.
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
Scott Doesn't Confirm ANYTHING. It's been years and he still hasn't told us what's in the box. Why would he confirm This??
@EvyDevy
@EvyDevy Жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz Scott has confirmed many things before. Such as TSE being an AU. Just not the whole lore.
@d3m0litionloverz
@d3m0litionloverz Жыл бұрын
love the theories!! also the cat is very cute :D
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yes he is!
@wingwall7892
@wingwall7892 Жыл бұрын
I love how the cat is just vibin while ur ranting about dead children and kiannu reeves animatronics
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
He likes to snuggle lol
@ThatWannabeMusician
@ThatWannabeMusician Жыл бұрын
I still think that the reason the Toys were haunted is because they were repaired with parts from the previous location (the Withered characters), and just a single piece of haunted robot is enough to corrupt the whole thing. Think back to the phone guy quote: "We just use them for parts now." Also, FNaF 2 takes place in '87, 1 takes place in '93, and the murders are basically confirmed to be in '85. The FNaF 1 animatronics could have been corrupted by the Toys, with them being scrapped for parts at the end of the game.
@henryallsup5771
@henryallsup5771 7 ай бұрын
I think we often forget that the funtimes were murder robots, so I think an equally likely possibility was that they were haunted by some random kids. Sure it’s outta left field but they were already shown to be rented out from Scott’s website, so they likely killed some kids and got haunted like that. I never thought about how the mci in simulator could give credence to moltenmci, but I still think that they either remained in their suits or helped Evan free in 1993 because of their visual presence at Williams death. While this doesn’t really give closure to the DCI kids, I think those guys burned away in fnaf 3 since we saw their masks/machinery in the building.
@dbgaming2737
@dbgaming2737 Жыл бұрын
Awesome theory! Only thing that doesn’t make sense to me, According to the timeline fnaf 2 comes before fnaf 1. It being called the NEW Freddy’s is due to the closing of the OG Freddy’s (fredbears family diner). Fnaf 2 supposedly is before fnaf 1 because phone guy is still alive. So that is the only part that doesn’t really make sense to me
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Yeah, so the current main timeline theory is that the four animatronics from FNAF 1 were in an older Freddy Fazbear's before FNAF 2, that's the restaurant where the MCI takes place. Then it shuts down FNAF 2 opens up That shuts down then FNAF 1 opens up as a remake of the older Freddy's pizza. It's a little confusing
@williambee8292
@williambee8292 Жыл бұрын
I like this theory a lot! Plus it explains why molten Freddy was the choice for what they looked like, only one Freddy was present and it was Funtime, who wasn’t a MC compared to baby or even the other two. But their history with Freddy faze bears pizza would explain their intention to try and figure who they are
@chickenboi09
@chickenboi09 Жыл бұрын
molten freddy could be possessed by both the kids from fnaf 1 and 2. one of the fnaf 2 teasers says “something borrowed, something new” implying that the toy animatronics use parts from the original ones, meaning some of their remnant could’ve been transferred over. this would also help explain the erratic behavior of the toys, since they would also have multiple souls inside of them, similar to the funtimes.
@silversylveon2380
@silversylveon2380 Жыл бұрын
Great theory! You have good evidence, and it has a good story. Shame that I, personally, can’t believe it. Doesn’t mean the theory is bad, though! Also, the cat is a blessing.
@Coolredlink
@Coolredlink Жыл бұрын
2:33 I like how his cat is watching toy freddy
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
They're friends
@menk222
@menk222 Жыл бұрын
What makes the first missing children incident kids being molten Freddy hard for me to believe is that phoneguy says in FNAF 4 that the backroom was sealed, meaning he was alive when Afton died there. But phone guy is dead before the end of FNAF 1 night 4 so Afton must be dead before then. But the animatronics are still possessed at that time, at least until night 7.
@Vigriff
@Vigriff 9 ай бұрын
I always just assumed that the FNAF 2 animatronics were being controlled by the dead children of the '85 MCI via the FNAF 1 animatronics considering that Fazbear Entertainment was using them for spare parts for the Toys.
@Gottkomplex000
@Gottkomplex000 Жыл бұрын
Your cat is just vibin, oblivious to the confusing lore of fnaf, it must be nice lol 😂
@aiellamori
@aiellamori Жыл бұрын
Bro, hearing Spyro music out of nowhere makes me smile
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Spooky Swamp! It's such a good song for horror game videos. Light and fun, but with a hint of spooky
@terrantitanium6441
@terrantitanium6441 Жыл бұрын
I actually really like this theory, smooths out some inbetweens that people don't really think about.
@boltindie9011
@boltindie9011 Жыл бұрын
I like to add in one little tidbit, Phone Guy says in FNAF 2 that the Withered Animatronics were scrapped up for parts to create the new toy animatronics, so in the context of this theory, the Toys would have a partial piece of the original five MC and be inhabited by the new five MC, this would explain why William would come back for the older models, a whole soul and a partial soul fragment would probably be more uncontrollable, or he needed a new supply of remnant from the more experienced Missing Children. Not to mention it would still fit in with the lore keeper reveal for the original five souls while setting the new five free
@BananaArt5803
@BananaArt5803 Жыл бұрын
Ok I have a idea. The reason Mangle can crawl on the walls & ceiling is becuse the toys have magnets in their joints. This is why Toy Chica can take out her beak and magle can be put apart and put back together and lastly how they can crawl on the ceiling in fnaf 2 but not in your house.
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
Sure but would magnets be able to support all of Mangle?
@BananaArt5803
@BananaArt5803 Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast Mmm ya good point.
@marisadzekute8294
@marisadzekute8294 Жыл бұрын
Anytime I see a cat in your video, I feel an overwhelming amount of happiness lmao
@paweldelowicz374
@paweldelowicz374 Жыл бұрын
I remember there was a theory by a youtuber i saw that said that the reason the other funtimes didnt kick baby out right away was because they needed her remenant to stay concius and not go back to just smart robots and the reason they could kick her out later was because they found remnant most likely they went to the fnaf one location and got the remant there after wiliam died. And since they went looking for the pizzrias and since wiliam didnt really seem to have time to both bring the remnant to the funitmes and then tell micheal go there himself and go back to the fnaf1 location for some reason.
@blueberryelf1150
@blueberryelf1150 Жыл бұрын
You brought a lot of interesting points to the table I never thought of. The only thing keeping me back from excepting this theory is that SL doesn't take place after fnaf 2. SL started Michele's journey and we play as him in fnaf 2.
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
But that applies to fnaf 1 as well...
@blueberryelf1150
@blueberryelf1150 Жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz yes.....we do play as him in fnaf 1 as well...so you agree?
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
@@blueberryelf1150 ? This video is about an alternate look at the MoltenMCI Theory, while technically neither version is true (because of what you said), this is the more believable of the 2. So yes- I'm agreeing with you xD
@mr_me0wme0w
@mr_me0wme0w Жыл бұрын
i thought it went fnaf4, fnaf2, SL, fnaf1 and then fnaf3. isnt michael fired in fnaf 1 for stench because he was a rotting corpse? also the kids wouldve had to have been killed already for the funtimes to have existed, meaning that fnaf2 would've had to have taken place beforehand so that william could harvest the remnant for the funtimes
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
@@mr_me0wme0w He was ALSO Fired in fnaf 2 for the stench... so how is that any different?
@onlookerofthings6029
@onlookerofthings6029 Жыл бұрын
So a few things: Assuming another set of 5 missing children possessed the toy animatronics, that doesn't add up with who's in Ennard. Since Baby is 1 of the 4 animatronics in Ennard, the 5 children would have to be split up into 3 animatronics so 2 of the Funtimes (unless they're split 3-1-1 instead of 2-2-1 or something) would be possessed by multiple souls like Golden Freddy. I guess it fits the Candy Cadet story about the keys since Michael went to free Elizabeth and ended up freeing all of the others, but not the one with the coffin since they're being put to rest in that story.
@littlespace_raven4884
@littlespace_raven4884 Жыл бұрын
I have just found your videos and I'm now just gonna sit and listen while I do schoolwork, and maybe listen in the car ride I have to go on tomorrow :) Edit: I forgot to add that your videos have an oddly calming feel to them, even if you're talking about FNAF
@PatTheFox
@PatTheFox Жыл бұрын
Really good theory!I always thought the fnaf 2 spirits are keeping for future so i didnt really thought about them
@PatTheFox
@PatTheFox Жыл бұрын
Kinda sad that itc 90% probably false
@tbgwildcard9185
@tbgwildcard9185 Жыл бұрын
I still personally disagree with the funtimes being possessed by the remnant of the fnaf 2 missing children. It doesn’t make sense that the funtimes have such different personalities than the original 5 but also at what point could William have done this in the first place. I think the funtimes are possessed by children they kidnapped at rented out birthday parties. We all forget that before sister location came out in the source code there was a calendar that told when the funtimes would be rented out and I think the funtimes through William kidnapped kids like baby did to Elizabeth. Also there’s no evidence souls can even be split up between multiple bodies over such long distances.
@lPsychoMax
@lPsychoMax Жыл бұрын
Interesting theory, especially since it matches up with fnaf security breach, since it has haunted arcade machines, which matches up to this perfectly! Which is interesting since a fnaf 3 arcade background becoming important later is definitely a scott cawthon move!
@CelestialOnPaws
@CelestialOnPaws 11 ай бұрын
Forget the theory’s I’m just here for your cat. It’s so cuteeee!!! I respect you for petting your cat even In the vid (I’m new so i dont know if you usually do that)
@skrappothemonster1436
@skrappothemonster1436 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, though I personally think there was only 1 missing children's incident. Also this the order I think the final games are in. Fnaf 4, Fnaf 2, Fnaf 1, Fnaf SL, Fnaf 3, fnaf Pizzeria Simulator, fnaf HW, fnaf SB.
@arandomguy6951
@arandomguy6951 Жыл бұрын
Except that it's literally confirmed in the minigames and phone calls that there were 2 MCIs?
@skrappothemonster1436
@skrappothemonster1436 Жыл бұрын
Sorry I keep trying to respond to you but it isn't working for some reason... I'll try to explain my opinion later.
@flopflop396
@flopflop396 11 ай бұрын
i like how the cat is trying to process all the lore lol
@GlitchPitbunny
@GlitchPitbunny Жыл бұрын
I too noticed another flaw in your theory. The sister location animatronics were build before fnaf 2, before fnaf 4 even as Elisabeths room is always empty, implying that she already would have been killed my circus Baby. And since it plays much before fnaf 2 it quite leaves a flaw in your theory, especially with the fnaf 2 missing children becoming their remnant.
@BOBimusRex
@BOBimusRex Жыл бұрын
Great video. I too have been trying to piece together an answer to the question of the first MCI, and where the remnant for the funtimes came from. I also agree C.C.'s name is unstated i the games, and any name you want to use is fine. For MY head canon David works best, as my timeline draws a parallel between C.C. and Edwin's son David from the book.
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
Thank you- It makes a lot more sense now, since it allows the fnaf 1 animatronics to move on, and provides a route for the fnaf 2 souls, probably one of my new favourite theories. While sure, there's some holes, that applies to the originals being in the funtimes too. Also, I'm glad I'm not the last person on Earth who believes crying child is set free in the happiest day minigame- I've seen wayyyy too many people saying that was Cassidy, and Crying child was the soul torturing William in UCN. It's actually really likely that Afton disposed of the toys, since the blob contains Mangle, so he knew where the parts were (since, there's no way the blob was a freak accident of agony parts linking together, it was built by afton and Vanny for him to take control of)
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad Afton trashed the Fnaf 1 animatronics, and he was aware of where mangle was stored, AND He worked at Fnaf 2. He most likely Was given the job of disposing them. Also, Who built the blob then?? It's right outside where burntrap is, and it sure as hell isn't small enough to gather parts from around the pizza plex, it practically has to tear the burning room to shreds just to look in, before that, it just randomly flails it's tentacles. And it's an absolute fact that in the books, Afton is aware of Agony's power, and how to manipulate and control it at will.
@AceFaz
@AceFaz Жыл бұрын
​@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad ok? But it literally has to TEAR a burning room to Shreds, just to look in, not exactly a creature that would sneakily steal parts to build itself...
@igorczajkowski859
@igorczajkowski859 Жыл бұрын
Great theory after so many years people can still find something in that games
@JulianneStingray
@JulianneStingray Жыл бұрын
Hearing Mario Party DS music in the background made the video even better
@RyeToast
@RyeToast Жыл бұрын
ITS LEGIT ONE OF MY FAVORITE MARIO PARTIES I LOVE THE BOSS FIGHTS
@JulianneStingray
@JulianneStingray Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast Mario Party DS is a top 3 for sure I love it. The graphics and music are very charming
@BlueStarsSatire
@BlueStarsSatire 7 ай бұрын
missing childrens parents needs justice
@Me-wx1mt
@Me-wx1mt Жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched this video yet, but I have a sort of weird head canon about molten/Funtime Freddy. I guess, I have two. My first is that golden Freddy followed Michael and possessed Funtime Freddy…? Idk, I thought of it because of yenndo but I don’t really vibe with it anymore. My second is that Funtime freddy somehow also scooped a kid like baby, and Freddy and baby are the only possessed funtimes. We see in the blueprints that he has a kid in him so, I’m leaning toward this theory more. I think it also makes sense if he’s the only possessed one besides baby since he takes control of ennard after baby gets booted. I know there’s the whole remnant/agony stuff but idk. I don’t really like that sort of breakdown, I like the simpler “kids possess animatronics cause the puppet gives em life and shit” lol Anyways, time to watch the video lol
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