9:11 Hazelle's dating style is definitely similar to mine. I've sat thru' dates where midway into it, I already knew I wouldn't be keen on a 2nd date. And I still paid for the full meal willingly. As Hazelle said, I feel it's a form of respect for the other person, but for me personally also, as well as an expression of my personal values as a person.

All 3 gals are so sweet. Love the way they talk. So eloquent yet with personality

As a 26 yr old Singaporean male with a fair share of dating experience, its actually attractive when the woman ask me out on a date not because i’m afraid to ask her out but KNOWING that since she is the one asking me out it means she appreciates my company! Another thing that is a deal breaker for me is when she offers to pay half the bill, i have no problems paying it anyway because i just like giving BUT by the act of OFFERING it means that she is actually a independent,thoughtful and respectful woman which is important because it means she has goals and dreams of her on and doesn’t have to rely on others. In a relationship both parties have their own goals/dreams and even if your personal life is intertwined, your professional life isn’t.

The more I hear Hazel, the more I am attracted to her.😂

2:40 But Germaine, guys are afraid of rejection too, you know. So if we're really unsure if she's into us, we're going to be somewhat afraid to ask her out. Imagine the awkwardness the next subsequent times we meet if she said no. I mean, such interactions would typically involve people who already know each other, like colleagues or friends or friends of friends, and not people who met thru dating apps since dating app people already know that's the whole point. Hazelle's way of just asking to hang out, or chill together, or get a coffee is the perfect way for a girl to make the first move without coming across as being too eager. 'Cos it's just hanging, not explicitly making it a dinner date. If you work together, you could even ask him if he wants to grab lunch with you. Then at lunch, don't talk about work at all. Ask about him, his interests, his dreams etc. And if he still doesn't make his move after that (ie. he's probably very bad at taking hints or he's not into you), try it a 2nd time (can be coffee this time). You should know where you stand after the 2nd time, especially if you end it with, "This was enjoyable. Let's do it again?"

First time listener, enjoyed the podcast! To be entirely honest though, I feel like I walked away from the episode feeling like the discussion ended up being less about whether women are afraid to make the first move, and more about how they don’t need (or want) to. Today’s dating landscape offers women both the upsides of traditional norms - be passive, expect men to make the first move, men should offer to pay - plus the benefits of modern dating too - simply swipe left, just ghost if it’s not a good fit, zero commitment dating - so there's really no incentive to be proactive. On the other hand, men have to deal with all the anxiety and fear of unintentionally overstepping boundaries, being rejected, and even getting unceremoniously ghosted after emotionally (or sometimes financially) investing themselves. Additionally, while I appreciated the cast sharing how they might step up to take more initiative later in the dating/relationship equation, assumptions like how men are the “proactive hunter” are IMO pretty archaic and, while sometimes true, don’t really make sense to be generally applied any more, just like how the archaic assumption that women must be submissive housekeepers doesn’t make sense either. Avery's stance exemplifies what I hear from majority of guys I know: thinking we have to make the first move is ingrained in us because of cultural expectations, and while some guys might see this as a badge of honor, most guys are thrilled when a woman is willing to be proactive instead. It’d be interesting to hear your thoughts on the above from a woman’s perspective, especially considering all the women on the cast are more than attractive enough to be capable of just sitting around waiting for men to show up.

Is azura married?

Driven and disciplined

This still normally doesn't happen and I doubt it'll be normalized but of course I'm not against it though

It’s best not to date or go out with any women..