Are Wood Gunstocks Inaccurate? ~ The Wood Myth Revealed!

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GunBlue490

GunBlue490

5 ай бұрын

Let's examine the claims about wood stock inaccuracy.

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@RimfireAddicted70
@RimfireAddicted70 5 ай бұрын
I might be aging myself but a blue steel gun and wood stock just looks better than any synthetic or new modern chassis.
@71rcode72
@71rcode72 4 ай бұрын
Agree!
@carltrano1325
@carltrano1325 5 ай бұрын
Not mine. All of my bolt action rifles are wood, I am not a fan of of any stock not made from wood. Just my two cents. In fact any bolt action rifle I have purchased with a synthetic stock was quickly replaced with a Woodstock. I find it totally shocking that this man does not have more subscribers. This man is a wealth of knowledge.
@nomansland4811
@nomansland4811 5 ай бұрын
I’m not opposed to synthetic stocks but wood is most certainly my preference.
@user-ir3ml7tf8q
@user-ir3ml7tf8q 5 ай бұрын
Tell a lie enough times soon people thinks it’s the truth. Very profound statement in today’s society. 🤔
@williamfeldner9356
@williamfeldner9356 5 ай бұрын
Love the feel of a wood stock, it has a soul.
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 5 ай бұрын
Yes it does, and a wood stock is accurate enough, dad killed most of his deer with a wood-stocked Winchester model 88. On a related note, he and I both like laminate for it's strength, weather resilience, and it's warm on your hands.
@vikingsoftpaw
@vikingsoftpaw 5 ай бұрын
Wood and blued steel have a warmth that stainless, aluminum and polymers don't.
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 5 ай бұрын
@@vikingsoftpaw Yes, a warmth, personality, and beauty unmatched. One of my fondest childhood memories was looking into dad's cabinet and seeing all the blued steel and wood-one stainless/synthetic 7mm magnum!
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 5 ай бұрын
The "shower for three hours" statement really cemented it for me, because that's the only negative I ever heard about wood stocks-that when they get wet, they swell and effect accuracy. Thank you for the history on them. I read that in a Bob Lee Swagger book, where he was protecting his M40 from getting wet during a torrential rainstorm in Vietnam with his spotter. I think of dad watching your videos and cry everytime.
@taylorharbin3948
@taylorharbin3948 5 ай бұрын
I paid extra to get my CZ 457 with a wood stock. No regrets.
@rapalaron6348
@rapalaron6348 5 ай бұрын
For me there is only one material for a rife stock and that's wood.
@uralbob1
@uralbob1 5 ай бұрын
I’ve commented to several blogs, that once, a few years ago, I was at a very busy county shooting range. I was there w/ my Gorgeous Steyr SL, CZ550, and my dad’s war prize, an 8mm Nambu. As I looked up and down the firing line, I was shocked that there were no wooden stocked guns other than mine! It was so sad to me.
@warden6032
@warden6032 5 ай бұрын
I am dealing with a remote community in Northern Canada for work. It was interesting to note that a community member mentioned they prefer rifles with wood stocks, as they trust them to hold up better in the extreme cold (-30 degrees Celsius). This is contrary to the narrative that synthetic stocks are better for extreme environments, but coming from the mouth of someone who has real field experience in an extreme cold environment.
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 5 ай бұрын
It's the same with the Sirius dog sled patrols in Greenland where they still use Lee Enfield.
@empireoflizards
@empireoflizards 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps some synthetics can become quite brittle in extreme cold and may be prone to easier damage if accidentally struck or dropped.
@llkj7944
@llkj7944 5 ай бұрын
Canadian Rangers used wood stocked Enfields for decades, now I believe their new replacement Sako is Laminate.
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 5 ай бұрын
@@llkj7944 Yes we did and yes it is.
@johnrocheleau7959
@johnrocheleau7959 3 күн бұрын
@@llkj7944Close enough. Tikka.
@callawayken650
@callawayken650 5 ай бұрын
As Steve Lee sings, "I like guns, I like the way they look. I like the shining steel and the polished wood.....".
@swathdiver489
@swathdiver489 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I remember reading about the supposed disadvantages of wooden stocks in the early 1990s. Manufacturers wanted plastic, cheaper to produce. My M700 in .30-06 shot 7/16" groups with its wooden stock and that was with practice ammo!
@brianlee6849
@brianlee6849 5 ай бұрын
I also love wood and I was misinformed that The cliches about wood were correct and I just always accepted that I was giving up a little bit to have a beautiful wood stock that I liked that I found attractive. I'm happy to hear that it's inaccurate. Thank you for keeping us so well informed. I really appreciate it. Good luck with the puppy 👍
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 5 ай бұрын
Wood has been used since the conception of firearms. If it didn't work well they would have come up with something better centuries ago.
@chrismiller9740
@chrismiller9740 5 ай бұрын
Meant to say on last video, congrats on Murphy. He will bring you many years of happiness. Please know I will carry the memory of your Benny and named my Brittany Benny. He is fine and just over 2 yrs old now, well behaved and a great upland bird hunter. A trusted and loyal companion in every way. All the best! Chris
@williecosgrove
@williecosgrove 5 ай бұрын
I live in EIRE [ireland] . It has being raining here EVERY day since June ,i hunt 2 days every weekend from September to March in the rain with a wooden stock on a 270, its dried and put in a heated safe after use for the last 30 years . Fine accuracte gun
@it_is_what_it_is_brotha
@it_is_what_it_is_brotha 5 ай бұрын
Can I ask you what and how you hunt that much? I'm form the US and went to Ireland to get married and travelled the country for 10 days, finding some beautiful red stags in Killarney. But, I heard there was no hunting like in the US where you buy a permit to then go on your own on public land to hunt, only "culling" where you were accompanied by a land mgr to harvest animals they allowed. I'd love to hear more and if there are opportunities for foreigners to engage in hunting because I'd love a reason to come back! Thanks
@williecosgrove
@williecosgrove 5 ай бұрын
Our deer season is september to end december for stags , november to end febuary for does .NO bag limits. All you need is the landowenrs permission and thats NEVER a problem. They will bring them out to the road on the tractor for you,@@it_is_what_it_is_brotha
@williecosgrove
@williecosgrove 5 ай бұрын
Here in EIRE [ireland] we have stag season from September till the end of December, does from November to end February .No bag limits ,all you need is the land oweners permission and no problem getting ALL THE LAND YOU WANT
@it_is_what_it_is_brotha
@it_is_what_it_is_brotha 5 ай бұрын
Great news thanks for sharing!
@williecosgrove
@williecosgrove 5 ай бұрын
Come over anytime you want
@timvest8141
@timvest8141 5 ай бұрын
Love the wood stocks. Love the puppy.
@StephenFirment
@StephenFirment 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great video! I too get annoyed when nonsense is published just to get a sale! Thanks again for truthful,common sense views.
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Giversum
@Giversum 5 ай бұрын
Wood and steel. It worked for my ancestors and it works for me. Plastic simply is not collectable. Thanks for another great video.
@scottmorgan1016
@scottmorgan1016 5 ай бұрын
Wood just has that home feeling. The pup looks great
@maynardcarmer3148
@maynardcarmer3148 5 ай бұрын
I have a .308 Win. that was built on a '98 Mauser action back in 1980. The 'smith that built it used a good Fajan walnut sporter stock in the build. More than forty years, and a whole lot of rounds downrange, it will still put five of my handloads into a nickel at 100 yards, and I have never noticed any shift of impact over the years. Use good, well seasoned wood, and bed and seal it properly, and it will work just fine.
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 5 ай бұрын
That's amazing, congratulations. That's one thing dad would tell me alot, that guys would buy up surplus 98 rifles from gun shows and have custom rifles made around the actions in the 1980's.
@maynardcarmer3148
@maynardcarmer3148 5 ай бұрын
@bobhill3941 That rifle was good only for a door prop when I bought it. The only part worth saving was the action, the rest was junk. I paid $40 at a small gun show, then another $400 for a new barrel, stock, trigger, bolt alteration, and labor. But it was worth it, as it turns out.
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 5 ай бұрын
@@maynardcarmer3148 That's excellent, as I said, you weren't the first. I'm glad it's served you well all these years. Thanks very much for the details.
@alexandercluster3003
@alexandercluster3003 3 ай бұрын
I love this video. Recently just bought a brand new 700 CDL in 30-06. After years of owning modern synthetic stocks in black and ugly camo patterns Ive found myself being drawn to a more classic look. Its funny how something so common and standard not so long ago has fallen so far from favor. I always laugh when people talk about how wood stocks aren’t durable. How many 100 plus year old guns are still going strong? It makes you wonder who started these misnomers.
@kweeks10045
@kweeks10045 5 ай бұрын
I have a savage 110L in .243 from 1963 that shoots 1/2" groups. My daughter hunts with it regularly. My Dad bought it originally and I still have the Weaver K6 he bought for it in1963.
@user-yh5qd1ns6n
@user-yh5qd1ns6n 5 ай бұрын
I’m picking up a mannlicher stocked Winchester in ought six tomorrow!!! Love walnut and blue. Glad to see you got a new pup. I rescued a heeler back in October after losing my Willy about a year ago. Chance is a handful but makes me smile everyday. Life’s to short to hunt with an ugly gun or not have man’s best friend at one’s side. I enjoy your videos God bless
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 5 ай бұрын
It's nice to see some good walnut and polished bluing instead of the endless row of plastic and matte stainless that seems to dominate the SHOT Show. I have a featherlight Model 70 in 7mm x 57 that mirrors your rifle. I love the look and feel of it.
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 5 ай бұрын
Great cartridge. One of my favorites. I like the 6.5x55 Swede, also.
@45calibermedic
@45calibermedic 5 ай бұрын
@@garyh1449 One day I want to acquire a Swedish M96 in the long rifle configuration. Such an elegant cartridge.
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 5 ай бұрын
@@garyh1449 Ditto, plus the Swede. I always wanted one so I bought a CZ few years back. It's too gorgeous to take in the field.
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 5 ай бұрын
@@45calibermedic I have a M96 all matching and a M38 also all matching. For hunting I have a Sauer 100. All 6.5x55 Swede of course
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 5 ай бұрын
@@Paladin1873 CZ is a good rifle, I have the Sauer 100.
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 5 ай бұрын
I was wondering if we were going to have a look at the pup. Awesome little dog. I do miss Benny though.
@doncavanaugh4268
@doncavanaugh4268 5 ай бұрын
Wood is so beautiful and adds to the hunting experience. All my hunting rifles and shotguns have wood stocks. Bought two that had plastic stocks. One was a CVA black powder rifle. Ordered a Boyts walnut stock replacement. After minor fitting it looks like a different rifle and feels better shooting it. The other one was an entry level Walmart rifle and scope combination in .243 that I bought for my wife. She was not sure that she would like deer hunting so that was what she used on her first deer hunt. She absolutely loved hunting. The next season it too had a Boyts stock and she loved the way it looked and felt compared to the plastic stock. She shot three more deer with it the second season. Now she hunts with a Winchester Supergrade in 7mm-08 with which she killed a sable in S.A.
@watariovids1645
@watariovids1645 5 ай бұрын
I almost always hear the wood stock problem in reference to the M14 in Vietnam (I am not saying this to Bash the M14). That always made sense to me because you can't even have hardwood floors where I live without serious treatment (if even then) due to the humidity / ground moisture causing it to warp and deform. This process takes months and months however before you will notice anything. I would imagine in a rainforest that has even worse conditions would have the same problem. Now a hunting rifle you take out for a few days or a range toy or even a home defense gun you have laying around I don't see how it would be an issue. All that if I were to buy an M14 it would definitely be a wood stock because that's what I like as well.
@bjdog42
@bjdog42 5 ай бұрын
I bought my M1A scout during one of the scares about politicians trying to take guns & the only thing available then was plastic. I planned to get wood for it when it became available. In the meantime I shot 1.1" groups with different loads. I don't change things on any rifle that shoots better than that model is known for so I've learned to ignore the plastic. If I ever get another one, I'll insist on wood.
@anthonykaiser974
@anthonykaiser974 4 ай бұрын
M14s can be accurate, obviously. The problem seems to be messing with the stock, which means cleaning them changes the tensions when replacing the stock on an M21 Sniper rifle.
@rongubiotti5309
@rongubiotti5309 4 ай бұрын
So glad you made this video. Yes at 73 years of age I take a lot of gruff because I prefer only wood and blued steel for my long guns. But to me, like a beautiful car - they just "ride" better. The inherent accuracy of a rifle is based on many factors, however whether the stock is wood or synthetic is not one of them. Thank you sir!
@markobratina4592
@markobratina4592 5 ай бұрын
First of all, congratulations for the extremely informative channel you run. We also love to see you in Europe. the most expensive hand-made rifles in Austria, which exceed the price of 50,000 dollars, do not have a free-floating barrel, but are so precisely made in wood that not a hair gets in between and they shoot like a laser.
@danielsalvia6689
@danielsalvia6689 5 ай бұрын
Greetings from Buenos Aires - Argentina. Interesting that comment of yours. By the way, by the end of February I´ll be traveling thru Italy, planning to visit Austria. Which Austrian made rifle are you talking about, please.
@markobratina4592
@markobratina4592 5 ай бұрын
@@danielsalvia6689Haloo It is nice to hear that you are coming to visit our part of the world. I had in mind the rifle workshops in the city of Ferlach, which is world-famous for unique, expensive hunting rifles with a very long tradition. PS. On this trip, it makes sense to also visit Slovenia. It is a small, very safe Alpine country with beautiful nature and a piece of beautiful sea. Greetings from Slovenia.
@michaellankford8358
@michaellankford8358 5 ай бұрын
I love a classic rifle.Theres nothing as beautiful as a blued, walnut stocked rifle. My wood stocked rifles shoot accurately...BUT...To get all my wood stocked rifles to shoot this way I have pillar bedded and the action is glass bedded and the barrel freefloated. My wood s
@michaelwilk2225
@michaelwilk2225 2 ай бұрын
Every rifle I own from my Remington model 33 to my brand new Henry Big boy have wood stocks. Your new puppy is a real sweetheart.
@tnzayatz6579
@tnzayatz6579 5 ай бұрын
Congratulations on Murphy! May he bring you the companionship and joy that Benny gave you.
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 5 ай бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@hardball107
@hardball107 5 ай бұрын
Agree completely with your statements. As for the current crop of plastic stocks I really don't mind them especially in light of the budget oriented rifles like the Savage Axis. I have a few, all bought for less than 300 bucks and all shoot sub moa. Like you noted 2-2.5" groups was accurate back in the day, the sub moa performance of modern rifles is fantastic even at a bargain basement price point. Besides, those rifles are aimed at a first time buyer and someone that might not be inclined for the care of a firearm, I've bought 3 of mine used and abused, 2 of them for around a C note. Cleaned up, sighted in with new glass and given a little TLC they turned out to be great rifles even with the Tupperware stocks. Admittedly they are not as pretty as my old M77 Ruger in 25/06 with a #2 contour heavy barrel built in the early 70's (with the barrel pillar at the end of the forestock) but they shoot just as well or better.
@justinappling614
@justinappling614 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely hate that almost every single gun in the gun shops these days are plastic crap! I’m 38 years old and I started shooting- reloading in my early teens with my uncle who was retired from the Navy. In the 90’s it was as rare to see a plastic gun in the shops as it is to see a new wooden rifle in the shops today. Honestly, I believe it is representative of the direction our society, in that, the wood of each gun was appreciated as a unique individual back then. Whereas today, the plastic is not unique and very much so not an individual but rather a generic collective.
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 5 ай бұрын
I don't know your name, but you're good people. Greeting from the Tennessee mountains and thank you for all the info you bless us with. Your knowledge and experience are irreplaceable and extremely valuable. Something that cant really be book learned.
@Grodd70
@Grodd70 5 ай бұрын
I still have my first deer rifle that was a cheap Mossberg 1500 .243 wood stock (cheap gun) with a cheap Tasco scope (horrible glass) and at 100 yards from a rest you can shoot a five shot group that all five would fit into a nickel. I have thought many times of replacing the garbage scope but with that accuracy I am scared to :) I hunt out west were we have snow, rain where the wood has gotten soaked, and it still shoots amazing.
@paulis7319
@paulis7319 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this informative video! I'm currently studying to be a gunsmith and the vast majority of my business in this rural area will be old/antique firearms with all wood furniture. I'm fortunate to have a large family with lots of old guns and they're letting me use them to study, like the heavily worn Browning A5 (Sweet Sixteen) that I will be completely restoring soon; video of every step will be involved, from replacing the wood furniture to de-rusting and re-blueing the barrel and receiver.
@Sforce68
@Sforce68 5 ай бұрын
I still shoot my primary deer rifle (Old Remington 700 ADL) prior to each season to verify zero and all I can tell you is that ever since I had it bedded into a HS Precision composite stock no scope adjustment has been needed going on 10 years. My wood stock was bedded by very reputable custom rifle builder and the gun shot great, there was no accuracy difference between the two stocks; the zero just sometimes shifted slightly like 1/2" to 1" sometimes from one year to the next with the wood stock.
@user-oy6fr8xp4i
@user-oy6fr8xp4i 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always. The most accurate rifle I own is a wood stock Remington 700 .222 manufactured in 1962 and belonged to my wife’s grandfather. Sub 1 inch MOA in a wood stock rifle over 60 years old! Polymer is fine to save weight, but wood is accurate and this myth is busted thanks to you.
@comlbbeau
@comlbbeau 5 ай бұрын
What a delight to see Murphy! Interesting presentation, as usual.
@user-cx1ve5bd8v
@user-cx1ve5bd8v 5 ай бұрын
I've learned so much about firearms and reloading from this fella, he has saved me countless dollars.
@bobbydazzler4141
@bobbydazzler4141 5 ай бұрын
Ditto. Thank baby Jesus for him being around. I have absorbed Gunblue's posts, and now can confidently cut my way through an otherwise unintelligible jungle. I don't think I could thank him enough, in this life or the next, for sharing so much with us.
@danielsalvia6689
@danielsalvia6689 5 ай бұрын
Excellent info as always. I confess I´m not a "rifle man"; but an airgunner. Now, talking about air rifles, must say I prefer the wood stock as well ... !
@eb1684
@eb1684 5 ай бұрын
I am an air gunner too! Love it, right in my back yard. I have fired thousands of rounds from my 2 Beeman air rifles.
@bustersmith5569
@bustersmith5569 5 ай бұрын
Good to see you back 👍👍🐕
@Icarden369
@Icarden369 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your informative gun videos! Fan of your channel! God bless you Mr Gun Blue!
@billfournier2067
@billfournier2067 5 ай бұрын
a very well done video. your observations are spot on. my experiences over many years are in full agreement. thank you
@empireoflizards
@empireoflizards 5 ай бұрын
Whenever I scan over websites like Ruger or Henry, etc. I find myself going right to the rifle variations with the wooden stocks. I understand that synthetics have their own applications but the wooden ones always draw my attention first. Much more pleasing to look at...as well as to handle. Appreciate the info here!
@kenstory6713
@kenstory6713 4 ай бұрын
thank you for your straight talk and your gun and hunting knowledge
@mnrodriguez
@mnrodriguez 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Congrats on the new family member! I hope Murphy will be healthy and bring years of happiness to you and your loved ones. GOD bless!!!
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 5 ай бұрын
Hi, Thank You for making this Video. I have argued and argued with my Friends about Wood Stocks. Now I can forward this to them. I really enjoy your Videos and have learned a lot from you. That’s a Cute little Dog. I’m sure he will bring you lots of Joy and Fond Memories.
@garyhammond2213
@garyhammond2213 5 ай бұрын
I agree with your assessment. I've shot 3/4 inch 5-groups out of a NM M1a and a Sako 7mmag with wood stocks.
@burrco3086
@burrco3086 5 ай бұрын
Great video like always!! Glad you got another dog. They are like little kids, full of love
@jeffpittman8725
@jeffpittman8725 5 ай бұрын
Lots of misinformation out there. Thank you for you're insight and experience!
@BradYaeger
@BradYaeger 5 ай бұрын
I have synthetic stocks , but it was a financial choice , I prefer wood by far .
@mattw1730
@mattw1730 5 ай бұрын
Excellent Video, very informative.....thank you from Australia.
@basshunter428
@basshunter428 5 ай бұрын
Synthetic stocks have their advantages but, I don't have the need for sub MOA groups at 200yds. My 1895 (anniversary 1970) Savage layout has a track record of over 100 years being one of the most effective hunting rifles (under 300yds) ever made. And it looks (in my opinion) and operates beautifully. Gotta love wood!
@davidmcgrath9581
@davidmcgrath9581 5 ай бұрын
Great video as always, love the name on the little guy, cheers from across the pond.☘
@sebastianhabel7312
@sebastianhabel7312 5 ай бұрын
Great explanation, thanks!
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 5 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@williamnichols1615
@williamnichols1615 5 ай бұрын
Thank you again Sir!
@nmelkhunter1
@nmelkhunter1 2 ай бұрын
Great video and very pretty Featherweight! Murphy sure is endearing! About a year ago I inherited a Model 700 Classic in 7MM Rem Mag from one of my uncles. It's always been a great shooter, 3/4" or better, with handloaded 160 Partitions at 2965 FPS. But, to your point on a hot barrel, these groups open up to 1.25" or so after 7 successive shots on warm days.
@oldschoolron8602
@oldschoolron8602 5 ай бұрын
Thankyou I had gentlemans disagreements with shooters over the years about wood and plastic you just validated what i beleaved.
@stevewehner9540
@stevewehner9540 5 ай бұрын
When I hold wood it just feels right but when I hold plastic it feels cheap. Years ago I purchased a Ruger 10/22 with a laminated stock it wasn't accurate, I did the dollar test and found a portion of the stock that was touching the barrel is was able to repair it and the gun is very accurate today. Repairs like this aren't always available for plastics without heat which will only serve to distort the plastic even more.
@badiuzzamansatti6391
@badiuzzamansatti6391 5 ай бұрын
Informative and nice video sir
@jerrylittle8922
@jerrylittle8922 5 ай бұрын
As always another good video. Thank you Sir.
@thomass2055
@thomass2055 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely and the projectiles as well every single casing could be loaded a little different plus wind temperature changes all effect accuracy. Barrel heating up causes expansion and thousandths of a inch differences within the barrel as well as externally. Completely agree with you
@joepiker
@joepiker 5 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video ( as usual ). I have been a carpenter and cabinet-maker for my career, so naturally I do love the wood, also. I just would like to say, regarding your comment about the plastic engine cover on your car. I regard them with the same displeasure as plastic gunstocks...The tools we use can be beautiful as well as functional.
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 5 ай бұрын
Yup, I like to open a hood and see a v-8 engine topped off with a 4 bbl carb etc. and enough room in there to see the darn thing.
@garrytalley8009
@garrytalley8009 5 ай бұрын
Great video as always, Right On! The myths are alive and well on synthetic stocks as well. They all have a place as you said, we all have our preferences. I love wood myself and upgrade rifles to wood that are from the factory synthetic. But both stocks can be made to shoot accurately in a rifle just making sure it is bedded well and the free float has enough clearance that it does not make contact with the barrel when shooting.
@captainjayc9217
@captainjayc9217 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing us that wood stock is good. I am glad to hear this. Moreover, even plastic stock can be warped. I have a .22LR rifle with plastic stock. Its stock was warped in the forend and touched the barrel in one side but not the other side. I don't know if this hurt accuracy or not. I released the stock in the forend anyway.
@robertharding1279
@robertharding1279 5 ай бұрын
Sir, I whole heartedly agree with you. I have a few nice “modern” rifles that are stainless and synthetic. Nothing wrong with that. But, most of my rifles are M98 action, blue steel and fancy walnut. Makes my heat flutter to own such rifles.
@stefanschug5490
@stefanschug5490 5 ай бұрын
Most of my rifles have walnut stocks and I absolutely love them. I must say however that I had problems with one wood stocked rifle in 7x64 Brenneke that was with me in the NWT Canada for over 2 month. The originally free floating barrel got pressured one-sided by the slightly warped stock. Groups enlarged from sub 1 MOA to 3 MOA. The problem was later fixed by epoxying an aluminum rod into a routed groove in the fore-stock underneath the barrel. Must have been the way the wood grain run in that particular stock. Never had a problem with any other wood stocked rifle. I must say though, many of my old German hunter friends oiled their guns and stocks excessively and the wood behind the fixing screws can get spongy as a result and the systems can move in the stocks. Especially in heavy calibers without cross bolts, it can ruin nice stocks and many combination guns or better their stocks got ruined 'cause of that. Great video as always.
@roypoulos1378
@roypoulos1378 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@Strutingeagle
@Strutingeagle 5 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the talk about the wood stocks and I agree with every point you made. Whats more, I agree with your take on gun writers. Todays gun writers like those in the past are an arm of marketing. Now days they are pushing the long range hunting and or target shooting. If you study the ballistic tables and pick the fastest cartridge with a fast spin rate rifling and buy a bunch of stuff, you too can be a sniper or long range hunter able to shoot an Elk over 1000 yards. Study the ballistics tables and choose the fastest cartridge and then cut off the barrel to 16 inches and then put on a suppressor and you are in the in crowd. Don't put up with a bolt that you can feel any friction or vibration either. The shooters and hunters in the past were superhuman so don't think you will have the dexterity to operate a bolt on a Mauser action. I could go on but suffice to say a young person with little experience will eat up everything the market tells them via gun writers.
@carycary5824
@carycary5824 3 ай бұрын
My 1972 M70 Winchester with a beautiful wood stock is a tack driver and it has never changed.
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 3 ай бұрын
I am very familiar with that year. Great rifle!
@L.V-Rider
@L.V-Rider 5 ай бұрын
Like you said, if the mounting is done correctly, there is no problems arising from wood stocks. A few months ago I bought a pcp air rifle, in the early morning and in the heat of the day it would have different POI. It is a beech wood stock, varnished on the outside but not inside. Further the one mounting screw is just in front of the trigger and the other further away about 50mm from the frond of the stock. The action was pulled over the slightly curved stock. I then put spacers between the wood and metal where the screws are so the action was just riding on those two points. The POI shift is now something of the past. So mounting has everything to do with it.
@homeontherange9110
@homeontherange9110 5 ай бұрын
great video. If one looks at the coefficients of linear temperature expansion for materials, in general, plastics expand at 10x the rate of wood...steel expands at 2x that of wood. Not tough to figure out which materials are most compatible
@budgreen497
@budgreen497 5 ай бұрын
Great vid. Thanks for
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@justanobserver530
@justanobserver530 Ай бұрын
I agree! I have 1 rifle that's got a synthetic stock and I don't particularly care for the looks but ....
@mikeburrill779
@mikeburrill779 5 ай бұрын
Another great video
@ferreiraassis2417
@ferreiraassis2417 5 ай бұрын
GOD BLESS YOU .
@timlandis6690
@timlandis6690 5 ай бұрын
Great as always
@PassivePortfolios
@PassivePortfolios 5 ай бұрын
From what I have seen and heard at the local range, synthetic stocks have no advantage over wood when it comes to accuracy.
@eb1684
@eb1684 5 ай бұрын
I have a feeling you won't hear the truth at the local range, I don't have any synthetic stocks though.
@PassivePortfolios
@PassivePortfolios 5 ай бұрын
@@eb1684 you are right. We should believe gun media writers who get the latest guns from the makers and issue glowing reviews.
@janemarkham4133
@janemarkham4133 2 ай бұрын
Solid wood stocks are " beautiful "!!!! All my rifles are in good solid wood stocks, don't want anything else brother!! Thanks for your video & expert information!!!!👍👍🤟🤘😊 ~~ Howard M.
@HAL9000-su1mz
@HAL9000-su1mz 22 күн бұрын
The November/December 1997 edition of the American Rifleman contained a test of a Tikka 595 Sporter in .308. Walnut stock. Even with Tikka's separate recoil lug, the rifle averaged 0.49" groups with Federal 165 gr. HPBT Match ammo. The largest group was 0.65" and the smallest 0.37". Granted that Tikkas are known to shoot, the AR staff writer called that "astonishing" for a factory, wood-stocked rifle.
@alexandergennaro8596
@alexandergennaro8596 5 ай бұрын
Boiled linseed oil was the answer I was looking for, for my bare wood stocks thanks bob
@stephenadsit2274
@stephenadsit2274 5 ай бұрын
Wood helps add character to all firearms...great video as usual!
@janemarkham4133
@janemarkham4133 2 ай бұрын
GOD BLESS " BENNY "!!!! We miss you baby!!!! Your new puppy is beautiful, glad for you brotherman!! BEST REGERDS MY FRIEND!!!! ~~👍🤟🤘❤🤍💙😊 ~~ Howard Markham~~ 4/23/2024 ~~
@GeorgiaBoy1961
@GeorgiaBoy1961 5 ай бұрын
It isn't just the gun writers, but the companies themselves who have created and perpetuated this myth. Why? Probably because there is a backstory - namely, that high-quality hardwoods are more-expensive and harder to get than in the past. Rifle manufacturers like synthetics because they perform well and often cost less than fine hardwoods. They had/still have a vested interest in creating demand for synthetics, for this reason. Synthetics do have an upside, which is that they have made match-grade performance possible at entry-level prices. When you buy a Ruger American, Savage Axis, or similar rifle, you are really paying for the barrel, action and fire-control group (trigger group). The stock is where they cut corners and costs, along with simplifying or cheapening certain other parts. The manufacturers or the after-market makers of stocks will be happy to sell you a fine wood stock to upgrade some time down the road should you wish it. Thanks for dispelling the myths surrounding wood stocks. Some of us have always known they were myths! There's just something special about a wood-and-steel rifle, especially the ones from the old days which were hand-fitted and hand-made.
@timtrax918artisan8
@timtrax918artisan8 5 ай бұрын
I've had some really accurate wood factory stock 700's "piller bedded devcon" rifles from a now deceased smith. When the misses and i went BR shooting later we used mcmillian BR stocks because of the geomerty and weight. I can say ive seen the old 40X BR wood stock piller bedded by the same man that was just as good but weight becomes an issue. Honestly i love a nice figured walnut stock for fine rifles. Thank you GunBlue for your content sir.
@tonyc223
@tonyc223 5 ай бұрын
Except for being a mechanic and firearms being mechanical ,what drew me to firearms 50 years ago was the walnut .
@valiktoma2542
@valiktoma2542 5 ай бұрын
I normally use metal or synthetic plastic stocks that come with most of my firearms. But when I pick up the wooden stocks on others, they feel so much nicer, and brings a smile go my face. The wood is in a way a kind of subconcious performance improver. For example, one may drive better in a car with clean polished interior versus a dirty mess. Much like that, a wooden stock brings more positive thoughts, care and appreciation, cherishing the moment and making that shot worth so much more. Mental factors are just as important as materialistic "on paper" statistics.
@iBleedStarsAndBars
@iBleedStarsAndBars 5 ай бұрын
I choose wood over synthetic any day. I often buy synthetic stocked rifles and re-stock them with wood.
@tomcleave2622
@tomcleave2622 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for what you do! Hurray Murphy have a great life, looking forward to watching him grow………….
@chrisowen5497
@chrisowen5497 5 ай бұрын
I love a good wood stock. The synthetic stocks are ok, but I definitely prefer wood. They can be made water resistant with a good finish and easily touched up. I have a Hogue stock on my REM 700 and it works great, but it came with a cheap plastic stock with lots of flex. Big improvement, but I do wish I would have gotten a good wood stock. Great video!
@71rcode72
@71rcode72 4 ай бұрын
Agree with you Blue. Wood stocked long guns are historically beautiful. Also my sole preference.
@tacman2893
@tacman2893 5 ай бұрын
Wood stocks just add personality to a fine rifle. I use mine for hunting in Saskatchewan, weather changes by the hour and we get cold, real cold, and we get hot, real hot. Never noticed any issues with my wood stocked guns! Awesome puppy!
@anthonykaiser974
@anthonykaiser974 4 ай бұрын
I just felled a decent sized black walnut last week. It has a decent main trunk maybe 10.ft straight to a large branch with enough diameter to make a few stocks, I'm hoping. Now I have to get the trunk on a wagon and clean up the butt so Imcan seal it.with paint so it doesn't dry wrong. I'd like to get a good stock made for my Zastava M98. Might be a few years to get it dry after getting it sawn properly.
@poeoconnor8634
@poeoconnor8634 5 ай бұрын
I'm building a 35 whelen on a 700 action. It started out an adl 30-06 synthetic. But I got a BDL walnut stock for it. I wanted it to have the classic BDL look. I will glass bet it. I love walnut!!
@user-er6fm4dx2u
@user-er6fm4dx2u 4 ай бұрын
As a builder who installs both wood and plastic siding on houses I have to say that the plastic siding requires a margin on each end because of how much it moves and wood siding does not. Just my 2 cents
@scottcrowder7035
@scottcrowder7035 5 ай бұрын
Once again, you have turned out a great video. I love wood stocks. A nice rifle with a wood stock is a cherished heirloom to leave the generations after us. Who wants to inherit a piece of plastic.
@jamesfohare
@jamesfohare 5 ай бұрын
G-day Timber no matter your choce of which wood or age Its a living thing it always retains a certain amount of the person that handles it the most.cheers and sorry to benny I know he was you best they do get that way part of the family. ✌👍
@stevebartz4439
@stevebartz4439 5 ай бұрын
I agree with wood stocks.when i started my tool and die making trade I bought a gerstner walnut tool box it was expensive but I’m retired and have had that box 47 years walking in to work every day looking at the most beautiful tool box in the shop.I just started reloading i bought the x 10 your set up video are spot on.Are you a tradesman you seem to know a lot of upper end knowledge.thanks for great set up help
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. My only official skilled trade was as a precision electroplater before I became a police officer. However, I was raised rather poor, and learned virtually all the skilled trades; finish and framing carpentry, cabinet and casework, electrical, plumbing, gas fitting, automotive, tile laying, masonry, etc. And I was factory trained by three arms makers. Yesterday, I performed the semi-annual cleaning, oiling, and greasing of our German grandfather clock. Reading and studying professionals taught me.
@mp9228
@mp9228 5 ай бұрын
There has always been a lot to do with 3 and 5 shot groups, and I’m sure that has its place in competition shooting. However, I never heard complaint about the stocks from old timers when it came to holding a zero every year for hunting season.
@ralphbernieri3362
@ralphbernieri3362 5 ай бұрын
I like wood stocks as well....My 700(.35 Whelen) has a nicely grained stock with a rose wood tip. SHOOTS as good as it looks, too!
@dougcutler5404
@dougcutler5404 5 ай бұрын
imagine Chuck Conners, Clint, or a John Wayne western with black synthetic stocks.... end of story...Wood forever you can't go wrong
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