Soulkey (Z) vs BishOp (T) on Blitz Y. Want to support ArtosisCasts? / artosis I'm probably LIVE right now, check me out: →Twitch: / artosis
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@FlymanMS4 ай бұрын
“Yes, but no” is the asnwer
@andreasnilsson77114 ай бұрын
Or... "It depends"
@fuku5124 ай бұрын
If Detection then no. No Detection, then yes.
@kingdweeb50654 ай бұрын
This is one of the greatest games in a long time. Thanks for sharing
@blacklight47204 ай бұрын
Games featuring Bish0p are tense.
@oredaze4 ай бұрын
What a game. The last spore in the main was the deciding factor.
@meguemil85424 ай бұрын
This game was insane. I was rotting for BishOp
@eliasfriedman97684 ай бұрын
I know it's exciting, but make sure to get up and walk around every few hours. No need to suffer necrosis to watch a player you like.
@jakobdueck74914 ай бұрын
rooting
@kurzackd4 ай бұрын
but how intensely were you *"roTTing"* for him ?? Like... Just a few brown spots here and there on the skin or straight-up tissue decomposition with your meats dripping off ?? :D .
@jd87a4 ай бұрын
Betteridge's law of headlines: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
@hydraman0074 ай бұрын
Can Sulki Come Back After Loosing All His Mutas to Wraiths?
@jd87a4 ай бұрын
@@hydraman007 Losing*
@hydraman0074 ай бұрын
@@jd87a Annoying*
@David-te9nq4 ай бұрын
Seoulkji can if spoors is many@@hydraman007
@Pikkabuu4 ай бұрын
Well had the Terran killed the Lings he would have been ahead a lot.
@Tungar111-mv2hw4 ай бұрын
I love bishop's playstyle so much it's unreal.
@Peter-zg3em4 ай бұрын
as far as i can remember i have seen one draw one time. flash and somebody. they mined out, and flash hovered his buildings and bcs in the middle of the map and then started rearranging his pc, signifying that he was done and wanted a draw and to go next.
@spyder007794 ай бұрын
да флэш просто суший макро терран я не понемаю зачем он вызвался за ничю приемушество было у него на стороне он мог бы просто полететь половиной зданий и поехать войсками в атаку под зданиями зделать сиеге и просто тупо убить тосса у которого был 1 чтормер и пачка кареров с пачкой гунов протев террановского лимита это смешно просто смешно в любом случае у него стояло столько турелей что даже если бы он не смог убить всех кареров то он мог бы просто порубить их интрецепторов а если бы даже не добил то всё равно кареры бы их слили на его туретках которых там было чтук 20
@jakeshirkey4 ай бұрын
Loving the daily casts. Found them a few weeks ago and working through the archives on the treadmill.
@TheRealDeadRock4 ай бұрын
That was a really fun watch, but obviously not THAT fun because nobody got chills.
@guysupreme4 ай бұрын
I really appreciate how you keep all your casts new, even with the new ASL maps! Thanks artosis. I love this channel.
@stefanc45204 ай бұрын
1 bunker would've won that!
@Berry_Bruiser4 ай бұрын
Even though this game didnt end the way i wanted it to, this was still a fantastic game, i just love seeing builds that are so far off meta being played out and for it to be so close too.
@kurzackd4 ай бұрын
ya, same here, although to be perfectly fair, that's _not exactly_ a completely *"off meta"* build... :P .
@benjaminhuver16574 ай бұрын
That was crazy! Love it!
@Fanelan0534 ай бұрын
This was a great game very exciting best I've seen in a bit
@john-ic9vj4 ай бұрын
I understand that the game for Terran was lost but it would've been nice to see this gone a few minutes longer
@poppy33184 ай бұрын
I'm not sure that was lost.
@dylanfalk32434 ай бұрын
Insane game, I love when we see something like this at the pro level
@carlosespinoperez56852 ай бұрын
Loved it!!
@SerbanTV4 ай бұрын
The wraith micro caught me offguard, even when the scurges spawned ... amazing
@MrLongmd014 ай бұрын
That was a great game! Thanks !
@michaelbird91484 ай бұрын
Awesome game! Some beautiful micro.
@Elfcheg4 ай бұрын
This gave me chills!
@Tablon_Nibbles4 ай бұрын
As short as juicy this game was. Fantastic!
@tylocrocket61114 ай бұрын
Damn almost ended in a draw! This game was hype af
@deepzerocool4 ай бұрын
This felt like a Chess game!! Amazing. A bunch of intellectuals went into that match
@eulogp98884 ай бұрын
This was amazing.
@ATUQ7774 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved this game
@aaronwood8434 ай бұрын
Hey Artosis. I love SCBW and watch all your casts. Ty. Suggestion: add a small timer showing time elapsed. This would allow serious students the ability to time everything (pause, rewind, etc).
@addlemm444 ай бұрын
something different than the timer above minimap?
@swampybwoy4 ай бұрын
Very cool and wild game !
@Reruro4 ай бұрын
Totally awesome game, great way to start the day.
@user-us9oz8hb2t4 ай бұрын
This was such a GG!
@pilldouglas53794 ай бұрын
I did enjoy the AI battles. I wouldn't mind watching an episode or 2 of AI vs. AI
@dangerfield68554 ай бұрын
Rewatching this because it was such a good game.
@chuckbowie58334 ай бұрын
What a crazy game!
@ethansterling43174 ай бұрын
Damn, BishOp cut SCVs at 16? I'd love to see an aggressive wraith build that also manages to have an economy. Wraiths are fine versus mutas, but they struggle when you're down 1 gas vs 2.
@nathanspeidel91954 ай бұрын
Amazing!!!
@hdwill4 ай бұрын
That was nice "neardraw" game
@Perrodetrocha4 ай бұрын
What a match!
@oldscoolest4 ай бұрын
Why didn’t he float his E bay or Command Center to tank Spore shots?
@joaquincespedes56734 ай бұрын
what a fun game! maybe some more ground units would made the difference
@Azuciea4 ай бұрын
Hey ArtosisCasts
@damn6714 ай бұрын
Bishop would have won if he just saved the SCVs are mined right away on top right instead
@ABflanagan5234 ай бұрын
What a game.
@CouveTJ4 ай бұрын
Wow what a game!
@FromThe3PointLine4 ай бұрын
Nice match!
@pilldouglas53794 ай бұрын
I was hoping to see a draw
@joshua31964 ай бұрын
Great game!
@asl2g4u4 ай бұрын
Awesome game!!
@somecooney53044 ай бұрын
RT cast a game with Mihu awhile back, where his wraiths friggin demolished whichever Zerg he was playing against. The wraith micro was 'Snow level', but we don't see that kind of play too often
@blazewarTV4 ай бұрын
The Best wraith games ive seen were between Bishop and Fengzi
@Picaroon94 ай бұрын
Leta and Light are the only two players that really come to mind for Wraith micro, but Light is able to macro much better than Leta while microing wraiths. I could see some wraith shenanigans on Troy during this ASL
@hasuchobogosu4 ай бұрын
9 supply 9 rax becoming new meta? seeing pros experiment with this a lot lately both for tvp and tvz
@mowsefmow81774 ай бұрын
you're the man
@davdav13704 ай бұрын
What a game, damn!!!
@Redkasquirrel4 ай бұрын
Earliest I've gotten to one of your videos! Thanks to pain waking me up at 5AM PST lol
@THAC0MANIC4 ай бұрын
welcome to my world
@YelenaSgt444 ай бұрын
😮🙁
@THAC0MANIC4 ай бұрын
i was basicly born with a illness for the past 30+ years i wake up at night coz of pain and stiffness and other such things.@@YelenaSgt44
@Lappmogel4 ай бұрын
One bunker and it would've been a win. Dude got rekt by a few lings while he was microing those wraiths
@termineitron90144 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the terran muta. How could I forget such a unit
@Svennnnn4 ай бұрын
Question been a while since I've seen a game - do people no longer split workers to different patches at the beginning of the game?
@patrickburden82574 ай бұрын
Feel like Bishop would have won if he hadn't gone immediately across the map with all of his wraiths.
@D3Z3R74 ай бұрын
This is about as masterfully as you can start or wield wraiths, but the power isn't there. To me, they're more of a meme than ghosts.
@agustinantoniosilvaschultz28834 ай бұрын
I think if Bishop had tanked the spores with the rax and the cc, he could have won. Insane game. Thx Arty.
@nixnet834 ай бұрын
But what prevents the player from taking control of the spores and targeting wraiths? Micro shouldn't be an issue as the attack is super fast
@agustinantoniosilvaschultz28834 ай бұрын
@@nixnet83 maybe placing the cc and rax on top of the spores prevents the zerg to take control of them. Idk actually 😅
@13BlueShaDows4 ай бұрын
Well, he could have builded 1 scv on the low ground island and play from there, Soulkey had only 1 muta. By the time Soulkey can attack that Island position he is well defended and gets is eco back on.
@amai23074 ай бұрын
Would win anyway with better micro, he took tons of spore shots while attacking buildings when he wasnt supposed any hits with perfect micro.
@13BlueShaDows4 ай бұрын
Not really. It is as hard as it gets to micro that, bit on top of that, he didn't had a unit far out on the map to group with the wraits so they can stack togheder like we do with the mutas... and u can't control what goes on the sides.
@amai23074 ай бұрын
@@13BlueShaDows he had 3 SCV, one of them in bottom left corner of the map, used all of them as suicide melee attackers for some reason.
@13BlueShaDows4 ай бұрын
@@amai2307 I think that when he started to attack the Hatchery, he only had 1 scv that was not paired with the wraiths because lings were hunting for it.
@13BlueShaDows4 ай бұрын
Ow I see now. When he started to attack the hatchery, he started to build a depo with his scv at 7oclock. he had it paired with the Wraiths, but when the SCV finished the Depo, it just come to where the Wraiths were and then he started to take dmg from the spores :D.
@williamterrill32734 ай бұрын
Awesome wraith micro
@IvyClora4 ай бұрын
crazy game
@arbootieoaks4 ай бұрын
Sick game
@user-nl4fw3oq1l4 ай бұрын
he surely regrets letting the main spore getting build
@blacklight47204 ай бұрын
Bish0p is my favourite player! No second thought about it.
@Tungar111-mv2hw4 ай бұрын
Same. He may not be the best in the world but he's by far the most fun to watch.
@Andrei31114 ай бұрын
yes they are!
@ToyohisaTV3 ай бұрын
but why didn't he just kill the lair and then just make 1 SCV and mined under the wraiths somewhere?
@UniverseBlend-qg6zy4 ай бұрын
Yo Artosis cast us some 30-40minute pvz would love to see that
@Lappmogel4 ай бұрын
Would've been interesting if he reacted to that base trade by mining 16 more gas, making a dropship and then going to the island exp
@KaitlynBurnellMath4 ай бұрын
"Are wraiths better than mutalisks?" It's a bit like asking "are corsairs better than mutas" -- corsairs outright beat mutas in a head to head fight, but mutas can, y'know, attack ground. That's kind-of an important detail. Wraiths obviously can attack ground, but they have a much better air to air attack than they have a ground attack, so yeah, they can fight most other air units. Including mutas. Yes, I know in the video Artosis says mutas "destroy" wraiths in a heads up fight but it's honestly pretty close. Same HP (120 to 120). 1 Wraith actually out-damages 1 Muta when they fight. Despite wraiths dealing "half" their normal damage to mutas it's still more (1 wraith will deal 10.83 DPS to a muta, 1 muta will deal 7.14 DPS without glaive bounces, 10.31 DPS with glaive bounces--the practical damage for mutas being probably somewhere between no glaive bounces and all glave bounces, maybe around 9 DPS, cause glaives can bounce onto useless targets like buildings, glaives reduce the benefits of focus fire, etc). The raw damage and HP values are still slightly in the mutas' favour because mutas are slightly cheaper than wraiths (slightly less minerals), but it's very mild, and wraiths have a few other tricks like 5 range and cloak that can be used with micro to get an edge. The problem with wraiths comes from being terrible against ground. Less damage to ground than a muta (even before counting glaive bounces) despite being a more expensive unit. Dies much easier to most ground units (due to mutas being small, wraiths being large, and most ground to air damage being explosive type). But like...if a zerg and a terran agreed to an "honourable air duel" where both sides only built wraiths and mutas. No spores, no turrets, no lings, no marines, etc. Yeah, the Terran would do just fine. The way the zerg won this game is that lings are better than marines, spores are better than turrets, and the wraiths did end up needing to attack ground.
@hydraman0074 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen a pro TvT on this channel.
@SplashJohn4 ай бұрын
Hmmm, I wonder why TvT isn't popular? Hmmmmmmmmmm.🙄
@woodtsunami4 ай бұрын
Why didn't he try to land the cc at a different corner and mine? Was he just sure the zerglings would find him too quickly?
@LL-kv1jk4 ай бұрын
Precisely, he probably should've still tried, but he had no means of stopping his opponent from owning the ground and slaying every worker they find. He wouldn't be able to kill the lings fast enough.
@jonathaniszorro4 ай бұрын
@ 7:10 the SCV intentionally stuck and grouped with wraiths, why??
@vklymenko4 ай бұрын
Maybe they needed repairing
@Globodyne4 ай бұрын
finally spores!
@phoenixlich4 ай бұрын
Maybe at killing Carriers?
@TheBryceWade4 ай бұрын
Bro. Terrans should have a Bunker at the front in every single game. There's literally NO reason to not spend 100 minerals to protect against ling runbys.
@gippygames4 ай бұрын
Pro builds are so optimized that they'll try to cut corners any chance they get, leading to situations like these. Artosis just had a video a few days ago where ZeLot's guardian rush lost because of 2 valks. If those 2 valks had come out 10 seconds later then ZeLot would've won.
@no1xtz7654 ай бұрын
Bishop has just proved it again wraiths don’t fear mutas in a one on one battle. But harder for Terran to switch meta game than Zerg if it doesn’t work out 😅
@troyfiss93324 ай бұрын
Trick question, the answer is zerglings.
@imranak124 ай бұрын
wtff he couldve landed it at the other base underneath, he had money for scvs
@adrianx82434 ай бұрын
wow nice
@Ceratisa4 ай бұрын
No is the answer
@nightmareTomek4 ай бұрын
Don't wraiths have a speed upgrade? Would that be better to deal with muta instead of cloak?
@chibinya4 ай бұрын
no, only cloak and energy
@LL-kv1jk4 ай бұрын
It's Protoss Scouts that get the speed upgrade. Wraiths just have cloak.
@nightmareTomek4 ай бұрын
@@LL-kv1jk Okaay, I got that confused...
@N-qo6bz4 ай бұрын
Cool game
@ThunderChickenBucket4 ай бұрын
insanity
@Garviel_Loken.4 ай бұрын
Nice game
@yworm4 ай бұрын
Why didn't he build a dropship?
@joebazooks4 ай бұрын
zelot level entertaining. crazy game
@JOE06714 ай бұрын
I'm confused how come Bishop couldnt land his CC at another location?
@LL-kv1jk4 ай бұрын
He'd completely lost ground control and any chance of catching up to his opponent once he had to lift his buildings. He wouldn't be able to kill lings fast enough to protect SCVs and he needed his wraiths to dismantle the enemy base or he'd just make more mutas and win.
@deco904 ай бұрын
Amazing game wtf
@josephdurgan70304 ай бұрын
Wow, great game. Is BishOp the best wraith player?
@mayalabo39064 ай бұрын
WOW~! jsut WOW~!
@AlexanderPalumbo4 ай бұрын
Should’ve started an scv somewhere else and started mining. Would’ve been an easy dub
@LL-kv1jk4 ай бұрын
Not quite, lings lock down most of the map since he ceded ground control. and even starting up again from square 1 safely would lose him the macro game, it was wipe the enemy base with his wraiths or lose the moment he had to lift buildings.
@Adam-go7cz4 ай бұрын
Does Soulkey ever lose ZvT? :D he seems too good
@Lappmogel4 ай бұрын
Can you group the wraiths with a marine in a bunker?
@amai23074 ай бұрын
Marine in a bunker is removed from control group I think.
@LL-kv1jk4 ай бұрын
Units stored in a dropship or bunker are unselectable and thus removed from the control group.
@Fireshrine4 ай бұрын
me: I know the answer to this! "no". I guess I can skip this video (/s)
@doktorzoid4 ай бұрын
TvZ turned into ZvZ :D
@karpai54274 ай бұрын
yes, they are.
@danielpap82794 ай бұрын
What is up with wraiths? The last time I watched BW they were considered useless and we're only used to snipe carriers and workers. Did the meta evolve and they became more popular?