Thanks 😁👍

Thank you 😊

Are those fresh-from-the-egg stats? What saddles do you have? I'll shortly try my brother's theris against dragon with primitive saddles only... unless he hides them first.

@@ZedsArk yes this stats are fresh. I have only primitive saddles so far :/

Those theris will be awesome. I normally stick all my new dinos in the fridge for a week or so and that'll give them a decent amount of levels before the fight.

I'm going to try the same theris with primitive saddles only at some point... although not optimistic.

@@ZedsArk thank you, i'll try it when I've finished my exames. :) did you used some cakes ?

Yes they do - very happy with this change from ASE to ASA.

@@ZedsArk Same here. Thanks for the response. I really like your video style, Very straight to the point and no nonsense. 👍

Thanks - I appreciate the feedback 😊

Yeah, it's a new feature on Ark SA.

That sounds like a blast! I might give that tactic a try. How much health do you put in the theris for that? These theris are multi-purpose, so we've taken them into tek cave and I want to try them in other boss fights too.

@@ZedsArk They pop at 20k so we dont level them at all. But ive done it with one that popped at 8k or so. Dont use theris for tek cave btw, just clear the tunnel with one carcha and then use tek chest shotgun inside of the arena. Easy duo if you have capped shotguns.

@matle9949 That's a good line of theris you've got. Ours aren't that good fresh from the egg. My brother has done plenty of breeding, but no luck with the mutations.

​@@matle9949how many shotguns do I need

I've added a video using stegosaurus and shotties to kill dragon. We used about a thousand shells between the two of us.

Thanks for 'letting' me borrow them. I saw that they fixed a/the veggie cake issue a few patches ago... glad it's sorted. That fight felt too easy...

@@ZedsArk looked way easier than my full wipe

I think Theris are my new favourite boss fighters. My rexs have better base stats and saddles, but I doubt they'd survive against dragon without losing some. That may need testing...

Open its inventory and it has a slot for a hat. It protects the otter as if it were a saddle. I think this one needs a cowboy hat from the Scorched Earth DLC 😀

For a while, I thought dragon targets the dino with the highest drag weight, as I experienced something similar. But on this recent video that doesn't seem to be the case. Anyone else had this?

How happy are you with the risk? I don't know if it's possible. I suspect it would be, but haven't tried without saddles in mine. I reckon you'd need more cakes though. I can't remember how many they used in this video... was it 10 each roughly (some using more, some using less). With more health, yours could last longer, especially with more cake.

I don't think PvP or PvE settings would impact, but other server settings might. My server is SP settings, but that's it; no other boosted settings.

That said, if I'm wrong, I still the tactic is viable. The main threat in this breath attack which is a flat 20%. The theris had enough cakes left, enough health and enough time that the boss could have been tougher and they'd still have come out on top.

PvP or PvE doesn't matter Boss stats are same

I agree.

It certainly makes for a quicker kill.

I don't know. Assuming you had the yuty buff going? I didn't survive unscathed, only the veggie cakes healed through the damage.

official is wayyy different n harder than single player.

Will test out after my holiday to see how the outcomes compare.

That is weird. Normally, it seems to take a few days for it to register and appear on my implant. Sometimes it doesn't show up at all, but that's rare and we usually redo them as a tribe. Those are good rexes! Mine aren't that good, but I'm still tempted to try them in the dragon fight. Maybe after I've tried my megalosaurus.

@@ZedsArk I used to play on official but started my own unofficial and it’s been so much better but the grind to get them like that on official was crazy but worth it

I've only ever played on my own server - can't remember why I chose this given how long it took to set up!

What damage settings did you adjust?

@@ZedsArkIt will be a long answer because I changed many damage related settings. I used Beacon Omni to manage the ini settings. 5x to the damage of Wild Creatures (DinoDamageMultiplier). In-game, the setting is called Creature Damage, and according to my testings it only affects wild ones. 0.4x Wild Melee Damage per level (this affects not only wild creatures, but also my tames, because they start with a much lower Melee Damage, and I think they gain less Melee Damage per level even after being tamed, as a consequence). 0.4x damage to the damage dealt by all bosses, and 0.6x to the damage dealt by all their minions. I guess this doesn’t affect the breathe of the Dragon boss, but the other settings shouldn’t either, because I read the breathe does damage based on a percentage of the total Health. 2.25x to the creature resistance multiplier (DinoResistanceMultiplier). According to Beacon, values higher than 1 increase the damage creatures take, and according to my testings only wild creatures are affected. This was meant to compensate for the 0.4x Wild per Level setting. 1.25x Imprinting Bonus. 0.2x Tamed Melee Damage per level. With official settings it would be 0.17x. I didn’t alter the Health settings. This results in my tames doing more than 40% higher damage than on Official, wild creatures (except bosses and their minions) doing a lot more damage. I was expecting bosses to be doing about 80% of their default damage. However, for some reason the Alpha Dragon was doing much more damage than it was doing against your Theriz (based on how fast mines got killed). I made the above changes with two objectives. Reducing the difficulty gap between creature in the overworld/caves and bosses. Making the Rhyniognatha do more damage with its Resin projectiles, simply because I liked them a lot but there wasn’t a way to affect their damage except for messing with the resistance of the wild creatures. I know I’m a little weird for messing with all those settings.

I forgot to mention I also reduced my character’s damage to compensate for the increased damage taken by creatures. I set it to 0.58x, which results in 1.3x compared to default. I also capped weapon damage to 500%.

That's making my head spin! Do you have damage numbers turned on? Would be interested to know how that compares to my vid. I suppose that there are also other variables in dragon fight. For example, sometimes dragon spends a lot more time in there and sometimes not. This impacts how many times you get hit with flame breath and how long your theris have to recover health. So, veggie cakes cannot outheal flamebreath if used constantly by a dragon that doesn't take off, as she uses the attack every 20ish seconds (I think!) when in combat, verses the 10% healing every 30 seconds from the cake.

@@ZedsArk​​⁠Thanks for the help. Damage numbers are currently not turned on. Once I’ll have a chance to make a test against the Alpha Dragon again I’ll reach you here.

21k and 700%ish melee minimum - some have slightly higher as they've been levelled a bit more.

It felt far easier than any other attempt I've made. Is that Glitch still there? I've never had it with the normal dragon boss, but I have had it happen in Tek Cave once, which I didn't know was possible.

@ZedsArk yeah. Half the time we run the dragon it's invisible.

That sucks. There was a tribe on my server that had that happen a lot. Guess they got all my bad luck as well.

It's easier to maintain and I find more ascended flak than I do riot.

Yeah, Ottenheimer was an unwilling participant. Unlike Ray Le Otter, who is now unfortunately missing in action.

@@ZedsArk Aren't all otters unwilling participants to our shenanigans? The only reason mine come with me is that dying in action is a more noble death than starving to death back at base like so many of their brothers and sisters before them.

😅

I thought theris might be my new favourite boss fighter - and then I took a couple of stegosaurus and shotties into this fight with a pile of shells. It felt slightly slower but a lot easier than taking theris.

@@ZedsArk normally I rex spider and monkey, megath for spider and theriz dragon, there's another KZfaqr called boomsmith who tests the bosses with all kinds of Dino's, it's a fun watch if you're interested in seeing

I'll check him out - thanks. Was thinking of taking other dinos against the bosses to see how they fair. Got some megalosaurus (and megaloceros) being bred, as a fully prepares set of rhinos to try out so far.

@@ZedsArk I just got Megalosaurus yesterday too, I cnt wait to breed thm out and get out and about on thm

Nice! Good stats? I've got them all popping eggs out at the moment. Once I have enough, I'll hatch them all. Not looking forward to raising them so much now you can't use cryopods to reroll imprint needs. Will need a bit more prep than usual. Then I'll get them in the fridge for levelling. Thought it would be good to try against dragon but also ready for Aberration so I can hit Rockwell a bit sooner.

That's an expensive gamble! Maybe when I'm less attached to them... 😜

@@ZedsArk people on Facebook say they've done it and worked with rexes 50k hp 1000m plus and 124 saddle 19 and yuty, but they dont have recordings sadly

That amount of health and melee takes some serious breeding. Mine are 20k and 1000% melee with only a couple of mutations, but with base stats of 50ish in - which I think makes them pretty decent unmutated. I used to do it with rexes in ASE, but to be honest, the two attempts I've recorded (theris and stegos) are so much easier. I'd probably just opt for stegosaurus if you've got the energy to craft the shells required - and have a decent shotty.

Is that the Godzilla mod? 11 seconds is insane! 😀

@@ZedsArk yeah was doing an average of 11k each bite!

@@ZedsArk also the worst about the whole thing is I got 0 loot from the boss my Godzilla never had anything in his inventory…

That's good damage! Yeah, not much loot to be had from boss fights... just the element.