very questionable design decision

Yeah. I don't feel like it would have been hard to make it so that when one player chooses Yellow or Blue Toad, the option changes to the opposite Toad for everyone else, so you can play as both.

Definitely a step backwards

Really sill to make itike this

Ala Gold and Bucken' Berry*

Arlo actually did that exact thing at the end of his Yooka-Laylee review

@@Wikkler wait, really?

@@wariolandgoldpiramid Yes.

Psittacosaurus I just watched it and no it’s not

zZSkyNinjaZz r u insane he literally has a gag at the end with it

how?

@hfzelman hold the left stick and L for 3 seconds. press R and you should hear nabbit yell

Yeah, they hid it behind a secret code instead of actually taking the time to put it in options where it BELONGS.

Damn the developers added dev blocks lmao

They also don't use the default control scheme from this game for the NSBMU theme in SMM2, they use the the optional one that you would activate using this method. So they obviously realized at some point that it was a mistake. Why not just change the control scheme that works to being the default? Cause Nintendo. Another huge gripe I had with this game, and every Mario game on the switch is the inability to remap controls within the switch menu. Unless I'm playing on an NES, I hate holding down the run button with my thumb, and then rocking my thumb to hit the jump button. I used to Speedrun SMW on emulators, and I would always set run to the right trigger, so that could hold run down with one finger, and click my jumps with a completely separate finger. This feels so much more natural for me. This problem is kind of made worse by the smaller buttons you have on a joy-con. I tried playing on the old Mario games on the Nintendo Switch Online NES and SNES services, and they felt horrible to me. Then the 10.0.0 update hit, and all my dreams came true. Finally I can run in every Mario game using ZR, and even map the spinjump in SMW to ZL, and I feels amazing. Before I was playing with two fingers, one for moving Mario, and the other for running, jumping, and spin-jumping. Now I can play with two thumbs on the face, and two fingers on the triggers, and each digit is doing just one thing. This might just be a personal preference type thing, but whenever I'm playing a game I don't like my finger to have to move around too much. If a game requires both sticks being active at all times, I set every action oriented buttons to the bumpers and triggers. If at all possible, I don't like using the face buttons at all unless the right stick goes unused. The only real exception to this is BOTW, and it's only because ZL becomes your main camera controlling button in combat. Although now that I can remap controls I might have to mess around with an alt-scheme for BOTW too.

Fork I mean, it’s an extra and final world so it’s obviously going to be hard

You played Hollow Knight, stop crying and embrace the void

El Cacas lol tu nombre/your name

Suba090703 es mi especialidad, mi toque de carisma

I got through the whole of 3D World in about a month not counting Champion's Road. That level by itself took about 2 weeks for me to complete and I just got really lucky on it.

What about SSB3DS?

Hey, a *new sado-masochistic buddy* doesn't sound that bad! ;)

Not So Much Buddy

@@bluekirby_64 you mean Super Saiyan Blue 3 Determination Saiyan?

It's actually even worse: NSMBUDX

I'd love it if Waluigi were a hard mode of sorts, based on the fact that he never gets to go adventuring and isn't used to it as a result ;)

Fix the floaty weird controls for everyone else but Waluigi but give him Toadette's double jump

Just reskin Nabbit to Wario

@@aardbei54 Wario as a Nabbit reskin makes sense in context since Wario was technically invincible in most of his games and hording items and treasure as collectables.

Kinda wouldn't make sense though. Why would Wario and Waluigi want to help Peach? Maybe if they established that they want cash, and hope that getting her back means they can charge her for it, but I doubt Nintendo would bother making a cutscene to explain that for a feature that wouldn't do much to benefit game sales.

People who have playwd the very first Super Mario Bross and the even better Super Mario Bross 3 love to play 2D Super Mario games. This is why Nintendo has made the New Super Mario serie. Of course they make good money out if but it's perhaps esch of them are excellent games on their own. Even if this is a 2D Mario game, it does take a while for developpers to create new levels.

@Samuel Briceno yeah because they’re fun, we’re still getting stuff like Mario Maker and 3D Mario’s so it’s not like we’re losing out on anything It’s a simple fun time and there’s nothing wrong with that

'New' 2D Mario (lol an enhanced port of a great Wii U game)

Isn't that from the 1st Spongebob Movie

@@markdebruyn1212 Yes

I think New Super Mario Bros. 2 is more worthy of that title.

@@lilylopnco i'd happily pay 60$ for a super mario made by FromSoftware

@@10gaws71 Impossible pack wants to know your location

@@lilylopnco Then you must absolutely love the Kirby franchise. Lol

I absolutely suck at platformers so it was nice to have a 3D platformer that I could access in some capacity. The levels were short and sweet and I felt like it accomplished what it set out to accomplish beautifully. Not the most ambitious title in the 3D mario line but certainly a fun one imo

Michael Scally funny cuz back when it came out Tropical Freeze just looked like "another new Donkey Kong game"

Nothing like a classic Cornette face

You mean NSMBUDX

Nah people were just salty because Retro wasn't making a Metroid game.

That time Dunkey compared the two was when it really hit me

Saw what you will about the game but at the very least it gave us Bowsette.

He mentioned Toadette.

@@JJAB91 Who cares? She's just a piece of ugly garbage who dosen't belong in an *E-RATED* franchise. I much rather have more metal clone characters then those unfunny Peachette wannabees

Old thread, but Arlo tries to be family-friendly, as far as I know.

What about Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts?

@@cirno8461 what does it have to do with anything?

@@cirno8461 how does that relate to this review lol

Wii days*

And music sung by sheep

Same! i never got the Wii U version so I never even got to play it until now!

Ian Hurt Hell yeah! Same here man! Glad you’re having fun!

Jackson Flowers Why is that?

Brayden Chapman nothing new has been added if you played this game before, just a Baby mode

Suba090703 Okay? The base game is still fun. Honestly I don’t know why you’d buy it again if you already played the base game on Wii U.

would you say that about MK8D though?

@@captaincold1987 MK8D is an actually good title though

Captain Cold At least that actually has new things in it plus the dlc included isn’t it for free. Literally the only new thing this port has is Toadette. The graphics and music are practically untouched, no new levels or content of any kind to experience aside form a very easy mode character, and even introducing new problems with controls and picking balanced characters for multiplayer.

@@rarm5899 lest you forget NSLU was DLC? I will admit that if you have 4 people one of you having to go easy mode is kinda stinky, but that wasn't his main point. He was saying it was a port and that he wouldn't pay 60 bucks for it, but MK8D is as well.

@@N_o196 not my point fam

Arlo The Ice Flower is meant to turn enemies into platforms for reaching otherwise inaccessible areas, in some cases.

why did you make this review

The ice flower is my favorite powerup in the game, but to each thier own I suppose.

Totally agree on the "death" part. It took me just a few attempts before giving up on one of Luigi U's harder levels because of the sheer time it takes to just retry. Heck, that kind of issue ruined Super Mario Maker to me ; in Super Expert, you can easily find yourself speding more time watching 8-bit Marios waltzing around than actually playing through levels. Ugh! Can you imagine if games like Super Meat Boy worked like that? x)

Nathaniel Jones He does reviews on lots of games. It wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to call this a game review channel.

Yes

Bucken' Berry is my boy

@@mariajimenafigueroa233 Ala-gold’s pretty cool, too

Really makes you FEEL like mario

Not everyone not the people who already played this game on the wii u which is why i absolutely Hated this remake they Need to add some more levels for people like me who already played the original just having this on a mobile console isn’t enough for people who want something actually new thank God in Heaven they actually added something actually New in 3d world plus bowsers fury because if they didn’t 3d world would’ve just failed like donky kong tropical freez remake did because they Didn’t add anything really new to the donkey kong tropical freez remake

It's so much better without that feature

It actually is able to be disabled

@@justinj_00 - Oh, Good to know. Although with Super Mario Maker 2... you know, existing; I don't know how likely I am to buy this.

Speaks his mind with no convictions, gives 4/7...

Game gets points for being playable and relatively bug free. There's nothing outwardly wrong with the game, it's just... meh.@@raddaddy1018

I think he does it just right so that Nintendo doesn't hate him. He rants, but he's never mercilessly bashing a game. Even when talking about bad things, he tends to lean positive and look on the bright side.

To be fair to his 4/7, a lot of people like this game for doing a good job recreating the 2D Mario experience and the people I know that had the Wii U version said it was fun, polished, but nothing that gets you particularly excited. That is, you've seen it all before. So I think a 4/7 is fair (especially in a world where 6/10 is considered an awful score from professional critics). And it's nice to seen someone (professional critic or You-Tuber) not totally spurg out over this game. I've seen this game get glowing reviews from almost everyone. I feel like I'm going crazy because it's a straight up port of a super derivative game that totally failed to convince anyone to buy a Wii U six years ago. Although I did defend it from being totally trashed, there's no way this old, recycled content would get 9/10 no matter how polished it is.

I never thought about it that way! A "New Super Mario Bros Deluxe" should really be a compilation of: - NSMB (DS) - NSMB Wii - NSMB 2 (3DS) - NSMB U - NSLuigi U The fact that it's just...NSMB U and its DLC is pretty meh.Surely just a cash grab. Sadly nintendo does these quite a bit...

Why is everyone forgetting nsmb ds

No, he means New Super Mario Bros. 4, or a new revolutionary or very creative and fun sidescroller with gimmicks.

They are planning to make New Super Mario 4 not a remake of Super Mario 4 (Super Mario World). Yes, most people in the West ignore that Super Mario 4 indeed came out and most of them played it because it came with the SNES.

@@lilylopnco Nobody knows. Even though it's considered Super Mario World 2, it should have been a separate game because the gameplay is complety different and it gave birth to Yoshi's island serie.

@@lilylopnco I feel like that game is only Mario World 2 on technicality. It's _so_ different from 1 and I feel like everyone pretty much acknowledges "Yoshi's Island" as its own thing.

That's Retro Studios. Everything they make is gold. Pretty much the modern equivalent of Rare in the 90s. As of now, they're in charge of developing Metroid Prime 4, so I wouldn't expect them to take on a Mario sequel anytime soon.

Graphomite Well we know that they're working on Metroid Prime 4 now that the previous version of the game has gone into the trash, but that begs the question... What might Retro have been working on before Metroid Prime 4? They had lots of time to create _something_ spectacular, so it doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility that they could be working on a new Mario game as well. It's still far-fetched, but hey, a Mario fan can dream, can't he?

I play with my wife and she's always toadette because she's the only Pink character. It would be nice if she had a toad mode. no way to play without a handicap if you have four players.

Fair point

That would be cool but I also kinda want retro's talent to be used in something greater

I agree. This game is underrated, even if it's not the best 2D Mario.

Hard disagree i don’t find it any better than nsmbw

@@violetsparkles5453 I found the level design in NSMBW to be really widely spaced out and dull... similar to what arlo criticized about 3D world.

@@jclkaytwo fair it’s probably to accommodate for the 4 player game mode

@@violetsparkles5453 the thing is, NSMBU doesn't have that problem. the level design is so much tighter and more enjoyable in single-player and it makes a massive difference.

Felipe Pagani that’s always been Nintendo, and most Japanese game companies. But especially Nintendo, they have large reservoirs in the bank and could care less whether you buy their ports or not. Which equates to hardly ever their being sales or discounts on their software.

I guess they could justify the price because both it and Luigi U are within one package.

I was ok with Mario Kart at full price but this game does not seem worth the price. I got the game but only because I split the cost with my brother, otherwise I would not have gotten it

I agree. Nintendo does not care about any wii u game fans and they really only care about people who bought the switch for their first console. Thats how they charge full price and people buy because they either didnt have a wii u or they dont know it was a port

It isn't necessarily a matter of being stingy-- It's a staple of quality. It's Nintendo not wanting to imply their game is worth less now compared to a couple years ago. I don't necessarily think it's justified, but that is how Nintendo perceives it. It's why all of their products take so long to lower in price, port or otherwise.

*Hey ! Pikmin ! 2* Confirm !!!

Dragovski Verkovic idk man you don’t seem 7 years early

pikmin 3 deluxe ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ) 👌

Same

Deluxe Patty

At the very least, you could say Mario games simply pay the bills whereas F-Zero probably wouldn't. But beyond that yeah it's very silly.

Miyamoto doesn't really have much of a choice. New Super Mario Bros. is 2nd only to Mario Kart in terms of best-selling Nintendo IPs for the last 10 years. I'm sure Miyamoto was cringing more than Arlo that this game made its way out the door. F-Zero, on the other hand, would take some juice to get started again what with how lousy the sales of the last few games were.

F-Zero is something that Miyamoto NEEDS to revive before it's trademark expires.

I would honestly love to see a new F-Zero, even thou it probably wouldnt sell that well at first. They should give the series a 2nd chance

@@kazoorion7993 Why would its trademark expire? The series may not be getting mainline games, but its appearances in Smash are more than adequate to continue trademarking it.

@Juno people getting triggered is not a reason to not state what you believe to be true boldly.

@Nob the Knave you routinely believe things that you know to be objectively false? Yeah you should def keep your opinions to yourself then...

@Nob the Knave is english not your first language or do you need easier words?

U think lie true? U no shood think lie tru.

This game in a nutshell.

The jump button didn't make you twirl in the original NSMBU either. They added it just for this port and presented it as "making the game easier" or something like that. As Arlo said, it's a bafflingly stupid design choice.

​@@PatTheHyruler Oh, okay, wasn’t sure

I was initially appalled by these controls, but there is one upside: For the powerups that do something else when pressing ZR, this change allows you to twirl if you want.

Can we talk about how little this game was marketed back in 2012 when the Wii U was a thing even? Like I felt in the back of my brain that this game was meh at the start. Now in 2019 of January, why am I seeing it when yet again, Nintendo did not market it all to well. Hell, I could say the same for Mario Tennis Aces but at least you kinda feel something from that game as opposed to this.

Hey guys, does this game have the same feel as New Super Mario Bros on the Wii? (I mean the controls)

Fraxlevein We make “games” here sir

That was pretty good 😏

I don't know why, but this comment is hilarious.

Thank you Sinbad

I got it right here Anime and Games Fan- *GAAAASP* Fraxlevein.

He already has the game.

@@sambalekouy7298 It's good advice in general, not just for Arlos.

Or buy other Platformers like Mega Man 11 or Sonic Mania

Am I the only person who finds that game frustrating and obnoxious? I find Shovel Knight and Celeste far superior.

Miles Hawkins Shovel Knight and Celeste are amazing! BUT, everyone should go buy Hollow Knight. Best. 2D. Platformer. Ever.

Actually, nsmb ds didn't have mid air spins and neither did nsmb2 but the wii and wii u did

Oh yeah

Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

No

@@rian1043 Yes.

Supreme Melon no

Crash's Underwear you just activated so much nostalgia in me XD

One of the BBF called Beef! :-)

Cannabis Hornliu I hate those guys for what they did to Morton.

@@theonetrueboxman7361 I know what you mean.

This comment is perfect

Owen stroud what’s wrong with buying it

Tman 1682 whats wrong with not buying it?

Suba090703 ok smart ass

Ikr

Just play with a Wii remote

​@@linkthepig4219 I do! I was just comparing the controls to how they worked on the more standard Wii U controllers.

@@edwheezer6231 Ok. It's just that the Switch has less of an option.

​@@linkthepig4219 True!

Im being petty but its spelt "Pikmin" Thats just me being a grammer freak XD

Tbh the plot for 2d Mario is almost always "Bowser kidnaps the princess" in one form or another. Besides SMB 2 it doesn't really get much more involved than that. Even Odyssey was really just that simple, just replace robotic arm for possessed hat.

bowser having a robotic arm could have been an interesting plot. the problem is nintendo didn't put enough effort into fleshing out said plot.

@ hey yo Pretty much unless you count the GB tittles but as far as the other Mario games are concerned that 1 time where Mario went into space and helped a cosmic princess save the galaxy in addition to rescuing Peach is the closest thing we will probably ever get to a proper story line sadly.

Holy hell, ye so bad at hiding that a blind guy found you within an hour.

the game knocked Smash out of first place in Japan, and ill bet it has sold over 1 mil copies already, Many people like it. Arlo doesnt like anything these days. Its his right too. However the web Shaming that shows up in the comment are just trolling.

Why did you use bold if you're hiding?

Nah. I bought it on day one. It's pretty great--aside from the extra jump thingy mechanic that throws off your rhythm. Good purchase.

anthony dagostino That’s such a lie... The games he criticized were criticized fairly, but it’s not like he doesn’t like anything Nintendo has put out recently! Also, sales don’t tell the quality of a game. 2D Mario games just sell well, and so what if it’s selling better than Smash in Japan? It’s not like it broke massive sales numbers like Smash did anyways... And I for one didn’t like the game!

I really should get around to trying that one out.

GamerSam99 Or Sonic Mania. Or Rayman Legends. Or Celeste. Or...

Oh lord. If you haven't played Tropical Freeze get on that. Was such an amazing, creative game. It's every single thing this game is not.

@@rarm5899 Or the Crash N Sane trilogy as well.

Yes!!! Like I know each game has a similar setup which is getting back to they're homes but Tropical Freeze does it better. One of the greatest things about Tropical Freeze was it's context throughout the levels. Like I love the transitions of each level occured in the game. While Mario U just has you going through the basic Grass wordl, Desert world, Beach world, Forest world (except that one level which resembles an oil painting), a Sky world, and a Lava world.

I see the opposite, it's obvious they would want to push this out first, because no one would buy this if Mario Maker were an option so they are going to let this do its thing first

Danbo 22 yeah, I get that. I’m just sick of the “New” Super Mario Bros games. These games are so horrifically unoriginal that it just makes it seem like Nintendo doesn’t even care about it’s biggest franchise.

Danbo 22 I just think that 2D Mario needs a HUGE shakeup

This is literally just a straight cashgrab port, I wouldn't read too far into it in terms of direction of the series

RedMage23 I know that. It’s just that when I look at this game, then I look at stuff like Bowsers Inside Story DX, it just makes me sad that Nintendo isn’t taking all aspects of Mario to the level of creativity that they could be. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had loads of fun with the games in the NSMB series. I just want Nintendo to push Mario to it’s true capabilities.

Honestly, the wii u had more content then this 60$ port, because they removed boost mode , which is still in the files mind you, and it adds nothing of worth If i had the choise between this and the wii u version, id go with the wii u version But if you dont have a wii u, its still not worth 60$,maby at 30 Also NSMB games are realy not that hard to make(i litteraly oppend a level editor and made a rom hack) So why they couldnt be botherd is beond me Anyways, games not worth it, just get any other version/NSMB game ,they are realy not pricy

@@muffet1536 NO WHY THAT BREAKS SO MANY DUMB CHALLENGE RUNS ... I mean I guess it wouldn't work as well without the Wii U tablet but still that's dumb

@@coastersplus it would still work since the switch has a touch screen, pretty well actualy (handheld mode only though...)

@@muffet1536 the touch screen on the Switch will always be underutilized because they push for parity between docked and handheld. For the time being they're still pushing it as a "hybrid" so not very many games will take advantage of handheld only features.

except mario kart 8 deluxe doesn't have any new race tracks.

Max the Big Bad actually there was.

@@jroy97yt33 Shush, you

Yeah i feel like they could have dropped the U and just called deluxe

Yeah, it's called the switch.

1. They're rivals to the Mario Bros. and they really don't fit in the game. Why? 2. This is a port of the Wii U game. Not a new game. If you add new power-ups to a game with already designed levels, then you would have to play-test the entire game to see if the power-ups work with the level design. What would you need an electricity power-up for? There's also already the Ice Flower power-up and the Penguin suit, why would you have ice and water power-ups that'll probably do different things and confuse the player? 3. Again, this is called New Super Mario Bros *U* Deluxe. This game is a port of the Wii U game and SOLELY a port of that game. Not of other New Super Mario Bros titles. Why would you include more levels and keep a title that will make customers think it's purely a port of the Wii U game and nothing else? 4. If you were able to add power-ups to your inventory by just collecting them (while having a more powerful power-up) then this game would be easier than it already is. Same with using items in your inventory. And if someone gets hit after getting a power-up, the game cannot be faulted for that. 5. That was not a bug, it was simple player ignorance of the platforms. This is an intended feature, if you get squashed or otherwise flattened, you lose your power-up. And, while I and probably you found it funny, it is not a bug, as you are implying. "Don't need to explain this one" shows that you don't know any other bugs in this game except that "bug" if you ask me. However, I do agree with you that this port should have been sold for way less. 20 or 30 bucks would've made this game much more acceptable.

could've just given us mario maker 2...

@jesus barrera Maybe, but all these ports still make a lot of sense. As Arlo put it so well, it brings the WiiU's better games to a new and potentially much larger audience. My issue with this one is that Nintendo has been making a unique New Super Mario Bros game for each system. First the DS, then the Wii, then the 3DS, then the WiiU. I would have preferred a new installment for the Switch to keep that pattern going.

Well Mario Maker 2 was recently announced :)

@@mattstat716 now they did!

@@aidenhanson884 Yeah, I'm surprised they announced that. Guess they were saving their big hits for 2019. ...still think they should've ported a different game, tho

Happy Birthday!!!

He's not a puppet dammit!

LPSoldin I thought Mario 3 had the best controls. Though I'd say the New ones are 2nd place.

@Clark Esteban I agree. I found SMB3 the easiest to control precisely. Despite this, SMW happens to be my all-time favorite, but it's noticeably more floaty/slippery and seems to have been the mold for the NSMB series.

Oh god, NSMBUD.

Super Mario World had miles better physics than NSMBU.

@Brandon Lee Miller true

The worst 2d mario ever in my opinion. Sold it for a dime.

Does that mean Yoshi's Island is Super Mario Bros 5 and all the subsequent Yoshi games are Mario Bros 6,7,8,9 etc?

@@bluekirby_64 No, because the Yoshi's Island series is it's own series entirely. Super Mario World is LITERALLY called Super Mario Bros. 4: Super Mario World in some countries, including Japan.

He's referring to the Yoshi's Island subtitle "Mario World 2".

@@alexanderfrye2688 The same way Yoshi's Island is literally called Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island...

@@somescrub885 Dang, I legit completely forgot about that. Fair point, statement redacted.

I'd like to see Nintendo occasionally come up with new villains in 2D Mario games. Don't get me wrong, I like Bowser as a villain but he doesn't have to be in every game.

I just used the ZR button for spinning like on the Wii U. Never had any issues with the controls and never accidently spun by pressing the A button in mid air.

I mean you could also play Super Mario Bros. 3 on Switch which is (in my opinion) better than this game.

Try out Donkey Kong tropical freeze, it's an amazing platformer, worth the experience.

So should I wait for that

Not over here, man!

Thats the name in japan i beilieve. You do have a point though A good point

As a quick heads up, the Wii version is the hardest in the whole New Soup series. Secrets are brutal and the difficulty gets to kaizo levels in later worlds. It's also the only game in the series with long & hard levels. Expect taking longer to beat this one than the others. ;)

Play the classic 2D Mario games and then tell me if the Wii game is hard. It's the hardest of the NSMB games (not counting Luigi U) but it's easy compared to the old SMB games.

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wow I can watch the movie

it does work wow

@@matheos743 lol copypasta

Scott the Woz thinks the Mini Mushroom is lame and doesn't believe your kind exist.

@USApyon MRC Possibly unpopular opinion, but if a game was released ten or less years ago, it's too recent to be ported

@@loganmiller7827 Very unpopular opinion, just lettin ya know. You can still have it though lol

@@autumn_breeze616 I don't think it's necessary to do it that soon. I just bought this game like 2 years ago, why should I pay the same price, sometimes even more, to play it again when I could just go and play the original? I love the Mario & Luigi series, but I still play my DS from time to time, why not just play it on there? Gamecube and older is good and at the time where porting is acceptable, anything more recent than that, it's too soon.

@@loganmiller7827 For me it's a matter of whether players have had the opportunity to play the game or not. For instance, GTA V came out on the tail-end of the seventh generation. Within two years it had been ported to the PS4, XBox One, and PC. I already had the game on PS3 but I bought it on PC regardless because it offered a better experience for me. There were also many people who never had the opportunity to play the original game or had simply held off on buying it the first time around who now got to experience it for the first time. I know that you're likely talking about definitive editions, but even so, re-releases of games are common for the exact same reason. It's an opportunity for you to purchase a game you might have missed out on but now with all of the DLC and some tweaks to make it a better experience. It's not really for the people who bought it the first time, but obviously they can still buy it if they want to play the game again. Think GOTY Editions or Gold Editions. I think that both of these scenarios fit the Wii U ports to Switch very well. The Wii U had such a small install base that at this point in time at least 2 out of every 3 Switch owners have played NONE of these games on the Wii U (or at least haven't owned them). So Hyrule Warriors, Mario Kart 8, and NSMBU are new experiences to them. While I do think the amount of re-releases is a little high, there's just as many new experiences available that I don't see the issue. Everyone's always freaking out about "another Wii U port," but out of all of the switch games on my shelf right now, less than half of them are Wii U ports (5/13). Never mind all of the new games I have digitally that weren't available on the Wii U at all. And I bought these games because I either didn't get them on the Wii U, or the improvements to them were great enough that it justified the purchase (such as MK8 Deluxe). At the end of the day, if the port doesn't seem like it's for you, that's probably because it isn't. If you own the original game with all of its DLC and you're perfectly happy with going back and playing that instead of having everything on one console, then just do that. These ports are made for the people who either haven't played the originals, or still want to play those games but don't like the inconvenience of having to constantly alternate between several generations of consoles.

@@autumn_breeze616 The only reason why I bought Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was because the switch didn't come with any games and I needed something, the switch had a release lineup rivaling the Virtual Boy in terms of bad, just one game anyone was interested in, 5 total. I bought it in May, and Zelda has never been my thing. That's the only port I have. If I remember correctly, the only other port I've ever bought was Super Mario 64 DS, and the original game had been out for 10 years when I got it. I would say that rereleases are different. There are way too many slightly edited ports on the Switch. I'm not into a ton of stuff. I really only play Nintendo stuff. I had Mario Kart 8, NSMBU, Captain Toad, and there are rumors of a Pikmin 3 port (If they port that instead of making Pikmin 4 I don't think Nintendo could find a way to piss me off more other than maybe delay Animal Crossing, which it's looking like they did), what could I possibly benefit from by getting them again on the switch? I didn't want to buy Mario Kart 8 again, but I didn't have any other options. (I did buy I am Setsuna too, but I didn't ever finish it) The other ones that have been ported I wasn't interested in then and I'm still not now. There has been almost nothing coming out lately in terms of first party stuff. I feel like I have nothing to play on my switch which is why I often go back to older consoles that ever had games release on them. On the switch, we have Zelda (even though it isn't my thing), Splatoon 2 (most of what I play), Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade 2 (I bought it but didn't really like it) ARMS, Octopath Traveler (also most of what I play lately), and Smash. Smash and ARMS get boring quick, Zelda and Xenoblade aren't my thing, after you play through Mario Odyssey once there's not really anything to do, so I'm left with two games on my switch plus Mairo Kart and Mario Party. So that's why I feel so frustrated with Nintendo filling the switch's library with games I've already played. I would rather have something new I can play. I might get less angry at them if/when they ever decide to release FE and AC, throw in Pikmin too and I'll be less angry at them. But why would I play these games on a different system than they were originally made for? I can't express how much I hate ports.

It’s not that bad I got the game.

The game isn’t bad, it’s just a bit bland. My very first console video game was New Super Mario Bros Wii, so I *love* the series, but this is just a port of a game that was barely different from the game before it.

@@paxtonl1330 well as this was your first console game you don't see it from the perspective of old, grumpy gamers like me who have played since NES Mario. This game while an enjoyable game is a watered down casual version of Mario. Not a bad game don't get me wrong but also not a great Mario game imo.

It's not bad it's kinda eh

A lot of people actually want a port of that. It would make the comunity bigger and let more people play it (since it became one of the few reasons to have a Wii U)

The Wii U still has Pikmin 3 and Mario Maker, but thats not gonna last long. Also the Switch has no virtual console so theres that.

@@Boooo yep

Nintendo "No."

CatFox why? Wouldn’t you want more games on the switch?

Who's going to be able to play them? They are still Wii U games at their core. They're just being made available to a much wider audience. Just like with the HD Zelda ports. The one Wii U game that needs porting the most is Xenoblade Chronicles X. The second most needed port is Super Mario 3D World.

Mario Maker 2 will probably come out next year, since its Super Mario Bros (NES)'s 35th anniversary. I have the Wii U and 3DS versions but would be happy to triple dip! Hopefully this year, Nintendo make a new Mario Golf to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the 1999 Mario Golf, that would be sick!

Well, you were wrong.

Benobonob 321 Nintendo also made that with New Super Mario Bros on the DS, and it was way better marketed. No stupid easy mode, no twirl thing, no stupidly broken flying power ups, hard Star coin locations.

I love this idea! Makes me think of Super Mario RPG on the SNES which blew my mind when it came out back in the day!