Also nerfing a rare. Corpulant Cadaver. They always nerf the PvE champions soon as we find a way to use them to their full potential.

​@@jerryfox143tbf Togron is a fix not a nerf, no other buff spreaders stacks shield buffs. So the skill isn't working as intended/worded.

@@dukekessler6292 they still didn’t fix trunda

@@bonjouravecuns because her ability isn't broken, it does 60% of the damage dealt but runs it through all the % increases and it can crit again. A similar but opposite sort of what happens with Wukong (his spillover DMG can't crit) and Siegfrund. The description on the skill is poor. But so is Wukong and Siegfrund if you read theirs.

Sometimes he gets sheeped, sometimes he doesn't. The RNG aspect has ruined arena.

Goodluck in gold live, only 1 person gets him and the other player has to ban them, its awful

Absolutely agree with this point. Seems like Plarium does everything they can to introduce more and more RNG across the game, and especially in Arena. I have hated Polymorph since the day it was introduced.

Honestly not sure why I even have him geared in my best and most accurate pieces could have with nothing he’d still eat the ban

@@liamskelly7825 It seems like 10-20% of the time someone doesn't ban him and you want those wins.

​@liamskelly7825 just stop using him

Picking first was fine before they gave such a bs champ to everyone.

​@@rsl_jim2881I'd rather everyone has him than a select few. Makes the issue with the champ more visible with more voices chiming in.

He's a terrible champ. It's such a shame they keep putting this kind of stuff into the game. Counting on Fateless to not make the same mistakes.

@@bigpoppadrockrsl Oh no worry on that. Can't really give out more, but that's one aspect that is in very good hands.

This would be a fantastic change. I'd love that. Would bring a lot more strategies to the arena for sure.

Agreed. He's stupidly OP.

Come on man! You should have dropped the credit card when his fusion was announced. Your pain is palpable, but I pray to the rng gods to give you all the busted champs. Armanz is truly a sight to behold as a ftp and its a damn shame you couldn't get him.

@@indrajithak47 somehow, I always seem to miss the great fusions, and get the bad ones. I missed Gnut and Armanz, but I got Bambus and Emic..... pulled myself a Gnut later though! I just need to pray that I pull Armanz next hahaha

If there was any fusion to swipe the card for, it was Armanz. Even dropping a couple grand doesn’t guarantee you any meta void champs. You could easily get all crap

​@@blabivixexactly this. I've spent on duchess and Siphi progressive and 10x's over 5 years....I still don't have either of those champs. But by God I have 4 wurlims, 5 opardins, and 4 cybeles.

@@dukekessler6292 I spent on several duchess 10x’s back in the day and now have 4 minayas to show for it. Ended up finally getting duchess on a random 2x ancients pull after quitting the game for 2 years

Yeah he's absurdly OP. He can literally solo an entire team even when well-built. That is the definition of too powerful.

Point could be made, but it's also fair that Galathir is a lot harder to come by where Armanz was a fusion so much more common to get.

@@Swollen_Goatyeah but that’s irrelevant when discussing who’s OP AND needs a nerf

@@Caleb-zu1pk and 4 OP skills and insane a1…

Galathir is p2w and its shameful when youre kraken and lose to f2p champ 😂

the thing is that galathir actually isn't an instant win as much as Armanz is. when an enemy picks both of them I ban armanz always.

Ya but mithrala does bring enough damage to make a difference

Probably the best solution I've seen so far.

@@jamesgish9202 hex n stoning them helps , she's not a great counter she's a maybe at best

@@bigpoppadrockrsl thanks, my mind always goes straight to pasives. I've tried doom priest, maybe ankorite I forget her passive but I think it cleans every turn

Narses and his boo eat Mithrala teams for breakfast

Steal turn meter then sheep gallant, no hit, just place sheep.

I know Saph recently said stealing turn meter is coded differently than turn meter reduction. I'm not sure if Marius responds to it. Time will tell when people start getting him

Hey thanks for sharing your opinion! I can see where you're coming from but at high level resistance isn't realistically an option, Stoneskin on every champ is difficult to do especially on Nukers, lockout requires you are faster, ally attack only works if you're faster and their Armanz isn't in Stoneskin and finally banning him means you're guaranteed to leave lockout or someone like Galathir open on their team which is a major major problem. I see him as a major issue because the counterplay is realistically very limited and strategy wise he takes away a lot of the fun because he is essentially a must ban.

I wish they'd change that. I can almost guarantee they never will sadly.

@@bigpoppadrockrsl We need Big Poppa to put the pressure on!

This is well said. I get their frustration as well. It's part of why I've always been against OP champs in any form including Taras and Marichka. Unfortunately many of them just get angry at me and think I'm attacking the champ because he's free. Nope, it's because he's broken.

I'm fine with him being the same for PVE. He's basically a cheat code but whatever. My issue is with Arena where he's too strong.

Oh, I get it, for sure. He's really strong. My fear is that when Plarium nerfs things, they tend to do so without fully considering the impact the change will have in any area OTHER than the area they are attempting to address.

Only because you don't encounter the absurdly broken mythical and void leggos that exist in higher tiers.

I hope you do spot the contradiction right? Armanz has singlehanded (positively acc. to you) removed two toxic DUO's for ONE champion.

But that's kind of the beauty of Armanz. Everyone knows who is going to get the ban so really it just becomes 4v4 of whoever you want

@@nugsnothugsnot in gold LA, it’s one person getting to pick 4 of whoever they want while the other is forced to ban Armanz and still get one of their main champs banned

They won't get new players at all at this rate. Terrible decision making on their part sadly.

Yup, agree. Mythical power creep is gross

Lol you're not wrong. Wish they'd improve PVP more for everyone, spender or not.

@@bigpoppadrockrsl Power-creep is inevitable, I guess they're just not subtle enough with it. They're not subtle with anything, I think that's their business model.

Yeah he's removed a lot of strategy from the game.

learn the mechanics and you'll be ok👍

@@mimigogu enlighten us then, oh mighty PvP master, what are the mechanics

@@mimigogu BS, he's broken. The mechanic is broken. and whats broken should be FIXED!

No one is whining. If you can't admit that he's unbalanced then you're simply not being honest. There really aren't any consistent counters for him as I addressed in the video. At least not at my level of play. It might be different for you at the low level.

@@bigpoppadrockrslyou are whining though, maybe spend more money and get galathir who counters Armanz. Docmarroe barely bans Armanz and he wins 90% of fights against Armanz. So stop crying and go spend more.

Agreed. That would make him still very good but not insanely OP like he is now.

Haha was wondering when someone would notice that. I have no problem when people disagree with me respectfully but some of the shit people say is completely out of line and I won't tolerate that.

@@bigpoppadrockrslno you are the one who out of line by calling people you disagree with stupid when you literally asked for peoples opinion.

I feel your pain. He's just so insanely OP it really sucks the fun out of the game.

That's my issue. Him being in there means you can't ban lockout or other champs at all. Super frustrating.

God that would be brutal. I feel for you if that's the case my brother

@@bigpoppadrockrsl indeed I did. I did the Zinogre, Ankora, and Eostrid fusions. I was resource challenged for Armanz. I listened to all the content creators telling me Wixwell was meh so decided to skip. Then when it was too late suddenly all the same content creators were telling me how he was actually a Clan Boss and Hydra god. Thanks guys. Still can't manage to 2 key UNM while everyone else quick battle 1 keys it.

Yeah it's become pretty bad to say the least.

He absolutely does. Shame they released him like this.

Lmao if that doesn't show he's broken I don't know what would. He can solo an entire team by himself. Insanely OP.

Yep. Pretty much an instant ban.

God help your opponents lol

I agree. It really sucks the fun out when you're super limited strategy wise. Such a shame they did this.

Lol it will be funny when Krakens stop spending and the servers shut down.

​@@bigpoppadrockrslthat will literally never happen.

@@jovan9989 Sure it will. Give it time. Raid has lost a ton of players over the last year.

They will release a armanz counter in shards and the whales will come flooding back paychecks in hand. It's a cycle and platinum have been doing it long enough to know just how to squeeze

​@@bigpoppadrockrsl Last year sure... but not becouse of Armanz... becouse of the system, which is bad, and that Stone skin and polymorph is broken, not Armanz's fault... Plarium needs to change how pvp works, thats all.

Yep. I'm pretty much done spending at this point.

He's basically a cheat code and I don't think it's good for the game to be able to suddenly clear so much content that otherwise required better gear etc. So yeah I agree with you for sure.

Very true. If resistance were viable this wouldn't be nearly the same issue for sure.

The same way I feel when I go up against them. That's not a valid excuse to have a champion this unbalanced added to the game.

@@bigpoppadrockrsl That is my exact point. When 4 well geared, strong champs get destroyed by a single Taras, that is not balanced.

@@OldGamr The only truly correct answer therefore should be: both are broken and both need fixed. This is just a contest of who's more broken. Newsflash: they're still just broken.

@@skorpion7132 I agree. The only fix is to remove the whale dynamic and cap spending or make the Meta champions more accessible to everyone. That is not going to happen so the only way to balance the field is to offer free ways for everyone to compete.

This is the funny thing, Armanz is broken but the fact he's a widely available fusion and better pvp champ than the rarest void legendary or mythical is a pretty big equalizer, he's op but lets get all the mythical down to parity and some of the absurdly broken void legendaries and also nasus.

Well I don't have armanz

agreed 💯

1000% agree, krakens and whales are crying because its become a more even playing field

I agree 100%. Armanz is definitely OP, and has changed the Live Arena Meta, but I think he has done so in positive ways. I am having more fun in Live Arena that I have since the very beginning.

I agree a 100%, This is pure high end spenders cry. I am an early game player,I still don`t have Arbiter, and I was about to quit the game because of terrible luck with shards, locked beause of trash waves in PVE, and the amount of money that needs to be spent to fairly play the game. Then Armanz came and Honestly he is the reason why I m still playing. He helps a lot. What I see here is pure selfishness from top players who wants everything for them.

I would say it's selfish that you don't mind arena being completely ruined just so you can clear waves now. For the record, I have no problem with Armanz for PVE content. I do have a problem with a champion that is so broken in Arena he can solo an entire team by himself. If you don't see that as an issue I don't know what else to say.

@@bigpoppadrockrsl What I said was I can see you feel it’s ruined for you, but not for me even as a late game player. You keep saying it’s completely broken arena, I disagreed and said it’s different for people in other stages of their game. For arena. I even gave clear example in my original post. Are you having such a closed vision you are unable to see the point others are pointing out? I could say it’s selfish of super end game players trying to dictate the game when it’s inconvenient to them while it’s benefiting potentially the majority of others. Armanz is very strong. But unless you also have overpowered gears, which the majority of the players don’t, what you said is simply not valid.

@@yobytae I wasn't responding to your comment but I will now. Armanz is broken. He has basically zero reliable counters if he is faster. He has the ability to solo an entire team and ensure no one ever takes a turn. This is a whole different level of strength from any previous champion, lockout or not. He is so powerful that he essentially is a required ban. He is a must pick in every fight and has necessitated rebuilding every single champion in order to even have a chance to counter him. And even then that usually fails. This is not about closed vision.This is about admitting a champion's kit is too strong and unbalanced. I would argue he ruins arena at every level because absolutely zero strategy is required anymore because of how powerful he is. I understand you're enjoying using him because he's essentially a guaranteed win, but to me, having a champ that is so clearly broken and OP makes arena significantly less enjoyable. Hope that explains it!

@@bigpoppadrockrsl I use him in arena and it's not a guaranteed win even when I'm faster. Stone skin, high resist, weak affinity... I go up against him in arena and it's not a guaranteed loss even when he's faster. Same reasons. I am simply conveying the fact that I have a different experience with him. I'm not sure how I can make this more clear but the message does not seem to go through... do what you want with it.

Yep. He sucks. Hard.

I wish. I don't think many of them care because they don't do arena like I do.

Smart man.

Interesting strategy!

Definitely works on the low end! On the high end sadly she's not viable.

I get that but I really don't think that F2P players have a chance even with him on the team versus large spenders. It wouldn't make a difference no matter what champions a F2P would use against me given the massive gap in gear/empowerment. What he does do is massively limit strategy in the arena and that in my opinion makes for a much less exciting and enjoyable experience regardless of level.

@@bigpoppadrockrsl im no beginner to Raid, been playing years now, but the power creep in the last couple of years has been tremendous, and I cant keep up, its either I dig deep and spend, or get left behind, Armanz has somewhat helped in arena. He is beatable, you just need to be super quick, but for the teams with a super quick Armanz, I get what you mean, he is a problem, I just dont think a nerf is right here

Lol and he's passive is crazy because it can reduce damage

Rotos is still op, and noone cries about him... Rotos coming 5 times is not fun...

Great question! So the issue is you only get 1 ban in Live Arena. If you ban Armanz you are guaranteed to let through a lockout champ or someone like Galathir. Basically you can't afford to ban anyone else which 1) Makes Arena less fun and 2) Makes it less strategic. It basically makes the entire endeavor less enjoyable. Hope that makes sense!

"I may be missing something obvious, but what is the problem if he can just be banned from the fight?" Aside from the above point: Banning only works in Live Arena, but he also shows up all over the shop in classic and tag arena, and there you just can't do anything.

Yeah you're right. That ability is broken as well for sure. His whole kit is insanely OP.

Same here

i had to do some stage un manuel before.. now with armanz dt hard is easy

God that's rough. Not really. Stoneskin. 6 star Polymorph. Force affinity. Basically have to pray he weak hits or you have massive resistance.

I get it. It's nice to have an OP champ without spending money. But he is so strong he can literally solo an entire team by himself. That is not balanced nor is it fun in the long run.

Sheep one of them and strip the rest. He's so so broken.

If you meet armaz with 450 speed your doomed

@@FreeFire-lx7kd you won't meet that though, but yes you would be

There is no balance when players invest to get a product like Armanz. If you want him to be weak it better be before selling him to the player base.

It would be the best solution to keep everyone happy. You'd have the broken champs in PVE that help people progress and then much better balance in Live Arena that allows for more strategy. Best of all worlds.

Totally get that. I think he could stay the same for PVE but he's definitely too broken in PVP at the moment.

@@bigpoppadrockrsl yes bcs hes my first good lego after 60+ legos

Lol the Kraken hate always makes me laugh

That would be an improvement for sure. Anything would help.

Agreed. There are a lot of areas that could be balanced better for sure. He's just the poster boy for OP champs at the moment and the one I feel has most disrupted the game.

​@@bigpoppadrockrslI think high level spender accounts have less of an issue with having to deal with op previous meta champs so armanz definitely disruptive and I see your points. With armanz at least my account after playing many years with way better gear than mid tier accounts can beat Taras marichika udk in crap gear with some blessings on some random level 50 account which could have been a crapshoot lol. Old meta in mid tier or even bottom of plat or borderline play was also just highly dependent on having the champs. You crush the old meta if not built great regardless so I get why armanz is the main problem if he goes first it's over. But balance is just bad period, he just adds to it in my view.

I get it. I'm having fun still....sometimes lol

The simple answer is people are hilariously bad at arena in this game, whether they are spenders or F2P. They have zero understanding of strategy or how to build teams correctly. It's pretty crazy to be honest but I feel that it's very true from my experience on both my main and F2P account.

It needs a buff for sure. Better rewards across the board.

Yep. They really screwed up on this one.