Armor Penetration Is VERY UNDERRATED

Armor Penetration Is VERY UNDERRATED | Dark and Darker

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2:23 Gearing Up
7:34 Stat Overview/Dummy Test
9:41 PVP - High MS Cleric
10:37 PVP 2 - PDR Bard
11:22 PVP 3 - The Flying Druid & More PVP
13:02 PVP 4 - How To Fight Cat Form As Ranger & More PVP
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@AndroZD94 Ай бұрын

According to wiki and numerous dataminers, armor penetration works as a multiplicative to armor reduction, not as an additive, like you've assumed. So in your example of Barbarian with 20% pdr and your ranger with 25% armor pen, the barbarian's pdr will be redused to 15% (100%-25%=75% of barbarian's base pdr). Another example is that armor penetration doesn't do anything to a taerget with 0% PDR - there is no armor to penetrate, you already do full damage, otherwise armor penetration would be just a damage multiplier, not unlike physical damage bonus. There is also an exception for when a target has negative PDR - armor penetration is not taken into an account.

@Joel-wj9ql Ай бұрын

Damn. Game changer

@reginalddiggums5468 Ай бұрын

thank you

@Squall598 Ай бұрын

Which is why, not useless, it's far less useful than most believe. A 75% fighters PDR will at best be reduced by 60% on Rogue, so they will still have 30% PDR, or around 55% for Ranger which leaves them at 34% PDR rounded up. The main use is that if you're hitting headshots and have a decent power bonus with additional, you will hit much harder than if you use True Damage, but only if you're stacking the armor pen really high, such as Ranger or Rogues. A content creator "Clowd" did a really good video on it a few months back.

@Squall598 Ай бұрын

And it also could've changed completely since they datamined it as well. But I doubt it.

@Summonick2 Ай бұрын

@@Squall598if someone has 75% pdr and you reduce their pdr to 30%, you do triple damage to them.

@jordanlawrence7053 Ай бұрын

As a fellow Timmothy I wouldn’t mind seeing a 1k gold kit it would be a nice challenge

@Wintercide Ай бұрын

I think 1k is pretty low but 2k would be neat.

@luffy3862 Ай бұрын

you dont want that. When youtubers make a good timmy kit the prices of those items go up

@lordiust962 Ай бұрын

@@luffy3862 So true lol… if you think about it, it’s easy to make a lot of gold as a content creator. Just buy lots of that item then make a video about it 😂

@RandallMiller-eh6wm Ай бұрын

Yeah you could get some ok boots and hope MS is enough

@damonbradley3883 Ай бұрын

Yeah yami did that with my under 24 lute build and now the prices are too high for me to afford them. Sometimes knowledge can be destructive to our builds lmao

@watertaco Ай бұрын

Yami uploads PDR bard, thelorr goes armor pen.. I would almost say he is sniping!

@justafellagaming Ай бұрын

I remember a streamer saying a good ranger will make it look like you don’t know how to play the game and damn it is so true.

@TrustStolen Ай бұрын

ngl i really enjoy the format of these videos, teaches a lot about the game and its entertaining to see all that goes into a run

@durantf4207 Ай бұрын

Hey thelorr. You’ve been making great videos. Keep it up man I wish you great success

@Liz4rdMan Ай бұрын

Awesome video as always! Def should have listed these boots for more

@MrScrax 18 күн бұрын

Been binging your channel two nights in a row now, so damn entertaining.

@reginalddiggums5468 Ай бұрын

banger as usual but when we getting crossbow build? its so fun with back step

@Porkrinds244 Ай бұрын

I was the high move speed cleric lmfao that was my first game with it and i ran it you lol love the vids!

@MultiFREEMSPOINTS Ай бұрын

Glad to see you getting these views, you are a monster!

@Noobsainb Ай бұрын

“1400 gold! Ok 899.” hahaha love it!

@FlashdEdits Ай бұрын

you have a point in the end. I had a purple ring of knowledge with true magic, magical healing and magical power and there was none of these on the market so i ended up selling it for 8k. it sold in minutes, makes me wonder how much i could've gotten..

@DatBoiTWheel Ай бұрын

God that last Druid kill was so satisfying, sit em down. He really thought he was doing something too 😂

@Emalix3654 Ай бұрын

Before armor pen was nerfed to only roll on specific gear peices I used to get +Power +Power Bonus and +Armor Pen on every peice of gear. Highest I ever got was 40% Armor Pen and 40% Power, I was two tapping geared barbs as a halbred fighter.

@zachintheb0x818 Ай бұрын

Brother i tried your steak recipe and i think i might have shit my pants a bit. So damn good

@robforskinstein Ай бұрын

Could you do a low gs video or zero to hero type thing? Ranger feels extremely different and outclassed at a low gear score compared to other classes.

@DreamerrSlays Ай бұрын

Yeah those boots were well over that. Really good for a quicksilver still

@DunkSkunk Ай бұрын

The thing about the bear form guy you fought is that sure he has more pdr but I'm pretty sure that doesn't affect arrows , they still hurt as a bear I noticed

@stealthyturtles Ай бұрын

Isn’t there a “projectile damage reduction” stat not just physical damage? I wonder how that is used in the equation

@vowish5319 Ай бұрын

I was rampaging with a slayer set with blueberry i had 16% armor pen and all true damage and rocked a flanged mace + short sword for 31% total, sprint and adrenaline. was super crazy 3 taping pdr people with 3 headshots

@Cauti0n69 11 күн бұрын

I know this video is a month old but just so you know if you are negative physical power bonus you aren't getting much benefit from additional weapon damage on weapons if you atleast hit neutral your numbers will increase a decent amount

@mikoajkoscielny6797 Ай бұрын

You should try out the new druid gloves on ranger, it gives you dexterity and vigor i feel like it might be op

@gilbertb.7740 Ай бұрын

What’s dpi and mouse sensitivity if you don’t mind me asking ?

@CR-xx7kd Ай бұрын

Wouldn’t it be better to stack +1 physical dmg with armor penetration, except frost amulet? True dmg is good against heavy PDR but the armor penetration is essentially making them squishy. Just wondering what you think.

@seedcraftthree Ай бұрын

Makes me wanna try this but with crossbow ranger build. Could hit like 50% pdr reduction

@bossdogtx Ай бұрын

I need to play matches with you frfr 🔥🔥🔥

@Jett2894 Ай бұрын

the cloak of darkness can give you more ms then an Adventure cload Lorr the ms bonus on the cloak has a chance to be higher then .09 look into it

@GhostManPRO Ай бұрын

i miss your intro, i remember it from last fall when i started playing :(

@Lom-sj2bs Ай бұрын

If you want more move speed get a cloak of darkness the have ms bonus as a base stat

@Lipbeat Ай бұрын

wasn't 9 strength a bit too low? wouldnt it have been better to trade like 5ish dex for strength?

@SqueakyFrank Ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure the Barb at 15:10 was trynna turn out the light lmao

@Joel-wj9ql Ай бұрын

First. When fighter vid next pls

@eidolonis Ай бұрын

Try running a pdr/hp fighter mixed with will. You should be able to get 140+ hp, 17-20% buff and 45+% PDR with meh speed. Reading this I ran out the cost of a kit I've been wreaking havoc with (visored barbuta, dark cuirass, light gauntlets, heavy boots +rings/pendant and cape with a green falch and shield) and it was at 800~ gold, just keep in mind that may jump up or down probably plus or minus 100~ gold due to the markets. The price also isn't including a crossbow, as I usually just take the squire one until I find a better one as I don't use it for any serious fighting, I mainly use it to harass people and pressure people from pushing too aggressively so I can dictate the fight

@Rustypoo Ай бұрын

I can’t believe you just smacked that pdr fighter like it was nothing. But also I feel like it makes it harder to fight rogues with the negative power bonus

@patrickking7115 Ай бұрын

For items like Trolls blood you should treat them like bis items and sell for just under market price it always gets bought.

@hdrag9 Ай бұрын

All I cant say is when I stacked 20% Armor Pen on my Rogue(with APen skills and dual daggers). I was smacking the tankiest of fighters down in 1 burst.

@minervaminerva2050 Ай бұрын

I love your content!

@sakke6111 Ай бұрын

i do this on the slayer, with flanged mace and stilleto dagger.

@itsBenjamon Ай бұрын

They need to buff armor pen on the cobalt gear. the fact that a random roll can be higher is criminal

@brooktaikato9798 3 күн бұрын

Good vid

@Darkplz Ай бұрын

Pen and PDR relation is 1 to 1, meaning if you have 20 pen you're gonna do remove 20 PDR from the target, essentially giving true dmg on power PDR builds

@ll-ou4iv Ай бұрын

Are u sure? Someone told me that armor pen 20% is 20% from your pdr. If you have 20 pdr that means that u will have 16 pdr instead

@fexiix Ай бұрын

I got some heavy boots that are epic eith 1.4 move speed bonus, 5 add move speed, and 1 vigor. I literally just can’t sell them!

@tegridyjunglebud Ай бұрын

woahhh your gonna make armor pen go up in price on the market lmfao I have been running a cobalt cleric kit with 32% armor pen with mace out, with smite and 62% magic power bonus.

@mediandirt Ай бұрын

was that cleric you killed Firebox?

@kiiski3840 Ай бұрын

What the smegma

@tano1670 Ай бұрын

Brain rot

@blackdaddy9052 Ай бұрын

I just poopy my kaka

@weewoodnd Ай бұрын

You can get more armor pen by roll on the bow

@Darkplz Ай бұрын

having negative phy power kinda hurts to see, should really try to get to 0, +6 power on bow/spear helps alot maybe 1-2 strenght rings and you should be there

@Dramox. Ай бұрын

Would love to see the way you died in the end using this build to prepare ourselves

@thelorr Ай бұрын

I ran that build till I got tired, then late midnight ran it again off obs and died to a stock armored fighter because I got too content LOL

@TheWarriorGreat Ай бұрын

Sadly if the panther have the correct agi items you would just be dead using the spear. I know from experience playing wiz vs +29 agi gear. I got 2 tapped with 135 hp

@dinen2394 Ай бұрын

1000G max for you kit would actually be really cool to see, im always so broke lol

@thelorr Ай бұрын

As soon as you get the hang of consistent PVP wins, watch how rich you’ll get :) o7

@thelorr Ай бұрын

Loss in this game will always happen but there’s a consistency that happens with persistence in this game as well I found

@dinen2394 Ай бұрын

@@thelorr oh definitely, i just usually end up buying a full kit as soon as i can and it'll last me a good few games. once i lose it it just takes some time to earn the money back, so a backup budget kit to use while earning money for a full spend would be cool to see

@stealthyturtles Ай бұрын

@@dinen2394I have a rogue specifically for gold grinding. I avoid fights, take the lock pick talent, and just farm up like 3-4 runs, then blow it all on my fighter and look for PvP. I like the long sword and still learning riposte spacing and timing so I tend to die a lot haha. I wish the gear cap was like 200 gs not 24 gs, so I could actually feel like I have a build in greens and not have to fight dudes decked in purple and blue fully optimized gear sets running through me.

@dinen2394 Ай бұрын

@@stealthyturtles were i not f2p i would 100% have a rogue just to run around and lockpick all the lion heads chests i know of, alas, i can only play ranger

@elijahvanmeeter5314 Ай бұрын

Yo lorr they buffed the windless it does way more armor pen now

@o_XampL Ай бұрын

I’m curious why do you mine gold nuggets if you kill for the best loot in the game to sell can you elaborate? I’m new trying to get goated also please don’t do that 1k gear vid the last thing we need is more gear getting jacked up in the trade market especially for my ranger class😅

@hunterpotts3044 Ай бұрын

My face when he sold 13k boots for 2k

@SkillSanity Ай бұрын

Ur strength is only on 9 , this affects alot the physic damage bonus id say be on 15-18 strength rather than having vigor

@nicolaspollack9142 Ай бұрын

bought a bis legi spellbook for 20k and fliped it for 30k it sometimes is realy worth it :D

@vinhthinhnguyen1087 Ай бұрын

I can see how strong ranger is when you didn't even have to drink the protection potion, unlike fighter it just like a must LOL

@nukedude1975 Ай бұрын

Maybe some crossbow ranger build ? Seems fun blasting peoples with bolt in face 🎉

@saugamer4314 Ай бұрын

great video thx man was a lot of fun to watch. Also i belive if you stack armor pen and you fight agains a person who has basicly no pdr and you will hit him below the 0% you will start to make bonus damage. Correct me if im wrong but armor pen is really really strong when you stack it.

@Raclawgra Ай бұрын

If I put my green kris, I can be matched with this 10k monster. The current gear score match-up is busted.

@creeperslayer3897 Ай бұрын

range meta in this game is so much fun. woo hoo

@VALNARXXX Ай бұрын

doesnt do that much because its a % of a % not a flat stat....unless you are fighting a pdr fighter with 75% PDR , you will not notice it, as you can clearly see on this barb, 180 hp, 7 shots and 1 headshot needed.

@PredatorGamingTR Ай бұрын

So True damage is definitely better

@VALNARXXX Ай бұрын

@@PredatorGamingTR thats why they nerfed it ,

@asKiFTW Ай бұрын

is it really underrated? rogues stacking these for a long time

@botuptop9345 Ай бұрын

You didnt grab armor pen on the bow oh no

@Samminator-r2x Ай бұрын

So armor pen is a percent of his pdr It doesn’t work they way u think it does that’s why fully stacking it sucks. Good vid man

@Summonick2 Ай бұрын

Most the best players in the game are buying armor pen right now. It’s meh in solos but basically required for physical classes in the 3s meta

@user-im5ko5sg8z Ай бұрын

9:41 start the video

@Lugia- Ай бұрын

The lightfoot were probably way more, like 5k. I sold worse for more than urs, 2Dex, 5Move alone is crazy

@eggling3427 Ай бұрын

undeRRated, you illiiterate

@gauge-ks2ym Ай бұрын

that build is disgusting love it

@DrewTheRotund Ай бұрын

crayola ranger

@STAR-es4zr Ай бұрын

he isnt wearing a beni he is just a red creature wearing a human face as a mask

@NathanPringle-se6nj Ай бұрын

dude im telling you run a 6.9% armor pen longbow with multishot and ur gnna be shitting on high tiered plate fighters

@markeloffpk6062 Ай бұрын

ngl man going against rangers like these is like miserable

@dinnersandvich9329 Ай бұрын

Ranger on top!!

@GiftZwerg Ай бұрын

Bro cheated on his slayer fighter 💀

@wesmorris3529 Ай бұрын

BROTHER MULTI SHOT AND USE IT ON EXTREMELY CLOSE TARGETS THANK ME LATER

@watertaco Ай бұрын

Bro playing fashion and darker

@sl5945 Ай бұрын

As a cleric main, Stop

@88Spint Ай бұрын

The smurfs are at it again.

@CrescentSouls Ай бұрын

BALD

@meat. Ай бұрын

they’re gonna nerf armor pen bc of you nooo

@jooshie3873 Ай бұрын

Plug with the rizz livvy dunne

@venomous7321 26 күн бұрын

armor pen is not underrated, you just dont play rogue 🤣it would be really cool to see you seriously play rogue next wipe like you have been doing with ranger

@bardle9169 Ай бұрын

So far we are 1-0 me, I will be hunting down any rangers I see. If you kill me I’ll donate 20 next time. Look out for DontStopBelieve

@hipduh Ай бұрын

I like thelorr but ranger gameplay is just unbearable

@xaedris Ай бұрын

depressing to watch... i hope i never run into you in the dungeons now this would be a day ruin'r to die too... good content though if not on the receiving end

@GhostManPRO Ай бұрын

I would give up if i came across a ranger as sweaty as you lol, cool build but man, this kind of thing makes me wanna stop playing the game.

@zeztox Ай бұрын

i just dont understand why you wear a hat while playing video games. I mean unless youre sitting outside

@TheWarriorGreat Ай бұрын

True or clothes in general tbh, I always play naked. Completely naked ofc. It feels so much more natural

@zeztox Ай бұрын

@@TheWarriorGreat Lol i bet you wear shoes inside and probably wear winter shoes in the summertime. Oh and dont forget the winter hat in the summer, because you know, its summer and super cold.

@TheWarriorGreat Ай бұрын

@@zeztox I was born naked and I will remain naked