Armored Core 6 PvP Duels

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Oroboro

Oroboro

11 ай бұрын

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@Sun1ightSpear
@Sun1ightSpear 11 ай бұрын
I really wish this game had matchmaking instead of having to find rooms for PVP
@Oroboro
@Oroboro 11 ай бұрын
Me too man...here's hoping they'll patch it in
@nihilisticpoet
@nihilisticpoet 11 ай бұрын
Personally, no. Not yet before some balance patches. Lobbies at least allow you to kick meta slaves (double zimmers/needles) so the 3v3's are actually fun and other builds can shine through, rather than being oppressed.
@chriskotte8468
@chriskotte8468 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t mind if they had both. The rooms at least give you full customization.
@GreenDomo95
@GreenDomo95 11 ай бұрын
That is my only complaint about AC6, if it had matchmaking from launch I would have no complaints at all about the game. I love everything about it otherwise and have been waiting since AC:FA for this game!!
@bradleymoore5464
@bradleymoore5464 11 ай бұрын
The game also should implement game chat for teams when playing 3v3. It would help a lot with team work and really raise the competitive bar further.
@fitamaajig
@fitamaajig 11 ай бұрын
dual zimmermans really are nuts, i went through basically the entire campaign with 2 zimmermans and 2 miniguns, crack em open with the shotguns and then rip into em with the miniguns, works like a charm every time (i called it the can opener lol). seeing how they are in pvp really makes me feel like they're gonna get nerfed if from ever does balance changes for this game
@AuraBreaker
@AuraBreaker 11 ай бұрын
It's cool how I got recommended this video right after using double Zimmermans on the Cleaner. Loving them.
@pedroj3432
@pedroj3432 11 ай бұрын
From will definitely do updates to balance pvp. There hasnt been one game of theirs where they didnt patch and balance the pvp.
@yoyoprofessorxavier
@yoyoprofessorxavier 11 ай бұрын
I noticed the miniguns being so strong as well. I've been abusing them on arenas. I think those guns and the shotty getting nerfed.
@pota7opotato573
@pota7opotato573 11 ай бұрын
tbf stuff really doesnt need much tweaking. nerf zimmer impact, the stun needle direct hit and the minigun direct hit, or even buff other machineguns. The real issue is the lack of missile counterplay, but i think its too late for that
@Ceronia
@Ceronia 11 ай бұрын
@@pota7opotato573 missle counterplay is pretty easy, just stay close to the enemy, and be fast. I got chased down and chase down missle user all the time.
@witchkid66
@witchkid66 11 ай бұрын
almost finished with chapter 4, I haven’t been this addicted to a game since elden ring 😭
@remingtonpenaranda7762
@remingtonpenaranda7762 11 ай бұрын
Have you done any pvp yet? I feel like I'm not ready haha
@witchkid66
@witchkid66 11 ай бұрын
@@remingtonpenaranda7762oh god no, i’m gonna wait till after my 2nd playthrough probably lmao
@remingtonpenaranda7762
@remingtonpenaranda7762 11 ай бұрын
@witchkid66 yeah heard that 😆 I'm barely into chapter 2
@Darklinkftw12
@Darklinkftw12 11 ай бұрын
It's such a fucking good game
@TheSibler
@TheSibler 10 ай бұрын
​@@Darklinkftw12it is , bought a new PC and Last week i had time to asamble it.Yesterday i had my First Session and this Game Just Made me Smile again. I truly can say this is the armored core all veteran ravens wanted.
@soulofcinder2007
@soulofcinder2007 11 ай бұрын
The grenade launchers and hover tank legs you unlock after chapter 4 are hilarious. Just Tanky as hell, flying around lobbing little tsar bombas on people. So much fun
@Huuuuuuue
@Huuuuuuue 11 ай бұрын
Plus depending on what generator you pair them with you can just run out of energy ascending over and over to fly infinitely without ever having to land. Tfw tanks fly better than tetrapods lmao.
@LordDragox412
@LordDragox412 11 ай бұрын
@@Huuuuuuue Tanks are the best fliers when you include kick spam.
@yimpyoi9808
@yimpyoi9808 11 ай бұрын
@@LordDragox412tanks are real vulnerable to homing weapons though, especially you stay out of their effective range. they arent quite fast enough to dodge them and at that point its a keepaway game
@LordDragox412
@LordDragox412 11 ай бұрын
@@yimpyoi9808 By "best fliers" I meant they're able to fly for the longest time by utilizing the kick spam.
@diswazzi1683
@diswazzi1683 11 ай бұрын
Dual "Zimmermans" don't let 4chan find out what those are called
@noway5266
@noway5266 11 ай бұрын
Double trayvon busters
@solaireofbadciv914
@solaireofbadciv914 11 ай бұрын
You can count the number of builds you find in pvp on one hand, and even then you'd have fingers to spare.
@ifeawosika966
@ifeawosika966 11 ай бұрын
If most most hand weapons didnt suck ass there would be more builds
@silversnow-
@silversnow- 10 ай бұрын
Me with my Gatling Gun, Coral Meele Blade and double Songbirds: I'm sorry 😢
@Red_Regalia
@Red_Regalia 10 ай бұрын
Team battles have good variety. Its the 1v1s that are bad
@hystericbunny76
@hystericbunny76 11 ай бұрын
that was sooo good man, specially the 3v3, and your ac design is cool too.
@Oroboro
@Oroboro 11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😁
@wetzinalvarado6930
@wetzinalvarado6930 8 ай бұрын
Lorewise, imagine how terrific has to be watching this match as a regular soldier in the AC world
@latinojackson9694
@latinojackson9694 11 ай бұрын
I think this game would do good with bigger maps and bigger teams, like a 10v10
@faceplant630
@faceplant630 11 ай бұрын
U would need a nasa pc to handle the amount of effects 20 acs would produce lmao
@superceilingfan9741
@superceilingfan9741 11 ай бұрын
Armored Fortress 2
@MrPervSan
@MrPervSan 11 ай бұрын
Or 5v5 with objectives like KoH
@simbastarcraft5906
@simbastarcraft5906 11 ай бұрын
I don't think that's ever gonna happen. I'm surprised how well the game runsneven in 3v3, but with 10 people both the rendering and the netcode are going to be a nightmare.
@OniiChan6161
@OniiChan6161 11 ай бұрын
Why stop at 10v10.. go for 32v32😂
@darknessemokaylon3919
@darknessemokaylon3919 11 ай бұрын
I’m not going to hold. As soon I seen double shotty I was already sad
@jwest3257
@jwest3257 11 ай бұрын
Hope to see non meta builds in the future.
@SillacSaurfang
@SillacSaurfang 11 ай бұрын
Probably will, he used a bunch on stream
@Kuzo53
@Kuzo53 11 ай бұрын
By the way, the plasma rifles are just as insane in pvp as they are in pve. I made a “frog mech” build that uses reverse joints to jump in the air and shoot charged shots down at people. When they’re staggered I hit ‘em with songbirds. Very effective and makes people mad lol
@Ouium
@Ouium 11 ай бұрын
I'm running with plasma ultra-loght build with rockets, just to be annoying in pvp vs meta-shotguns and gatling tanks tbqh.
@Huuuuuuue
@Huuuuuuue 11 ай бұрын
Plasma rifles are even more insane with wheelchair legs since you don't have to stop to shoot and you're fast enough to outrun shotgun builds trying to chase you down.
@zerosolis6664
@zerosolis6664 10 ай бұрын
@@Ouium I mean thats the whole point isn't it? To use builds that aren't what everyone else says is "meta" to force people to think outside the box even a little? Keep countering people that rely on in your face damage like shotguns and eventually they will get mad
@Mazapine
@Mazapine 11 ай бұрын
This was fun as hell to watch, I just unlocked MP a bit ago definitely jumping in soon
@SoulNinjaKen
@SoulNinjaKen 11 ай бұрын
Wdym Dual Zimmer is pretty boring to watch, unless it's someone stomping em so u can point n laugh
@YggdrasilsBranches
@YggdrasilsBranches 10 ай бұрын
Lmao when you said, oh he’s got the Zimmermans too, I thought… you seem so surprised lol 😂
@Mingeking
@Mingeking 11 ай бұрын
I love the electric lance so fucking much
@RamothElggur
@RamothElggur 11 ай бұрын
First Match literally: "Task Failed Succesfully!" xD
@lynardskynard2895
@lynardskynard2895 11 ай бұрын
lmao you broke the first guy's ankle so hard
@DangaiRo
@DangaiRo 6 ай бұрын
Oh I remeber you from back ACV and ACVD Stil sparkling after all those years I see. Cheers from Roh - Anima Proxy Commander.
@midwestleek
@midwestleek 11 ай бұрын
I like team battles because I always nuke the enemy team at least 1 time with assault armor and a coral generator
@willclemons
@willclemons 11 ай бұрын
This is a sick video bro
@poly_g6068
@poly_g6068 11 ай бұрын
I won't lie. That is one good looking piece of tin.
@thoruinmagni3644
@thoruinmagni3644 9 ай бұрын
damn that white glint looking quad was dripped
@rash_dmg
@rash_dmg 11 ай бұрын
Carla's OST kicks ass Pro tip for pvpers, don't sleep on the flamethrowers! They deal direct damage only and in pvp you crisp up people faster than with the zimmermans
@soulofcinder2007
@soulofcinder2007 11 ай бұрын
Some guy I fought was running the hover legs, dual flame throwers. Bad time lemme tell yah
@jackdaw3822
@jackdaw3822 11 ай бұрын
I legit couldn't see the AC Doser boss that had the flamer thrower cuz it just lit up my screen when it came close lol
@pingu8015
@pingu8015 11 ай бұрын
@@soulofcinder2007 yeah lmao I got destroyed by someone using this and the 100% firearm specialization arms - got absolutely melted
@sladevalen2120
@sladevalen2120 11 ай бұрын
I've been using the lightweight tank with dual flamethrowers since day one. My friends have yet to figure out how to fight it
@kylenguyen7371
@kylenguyen7371 11 ай бұрын
​@@sladevalen2120what's the effective/ideal range on the flamethrowers?
@steelphoenix8978
@steelphoenix8978 11 ай бұрын
those an shen class destroyers i tell ya, raining missiles like no tomorrow
@echopho
@echopho 10 ай бұрын
Glad ur liking armored core 6
@BackroundVoice
@BackroundVoice 11 ай бұрын
Please make more ACVI PVP videos, this was great!
@Lek_2.O
@Lek_2.O 11 ай бұрын
I hope there will be an AC tournament in the future.
@PhantomPanda1992
@PhantomPanda1992 10 ай бұрын
controller vs keyboard for AC6, what you think is best?
@ToraTokawaii
@ToraTokawaii 11 ай бұрын
do you do pvp i with mouse and keyboard or control ?
@billyyoung2725
@billyyoung2725 11 ай бұрын
I might have clicked just to see if you put the dingus player in! 😅 That fight was next level with the fake out strats.
@skierdudemike
@skierdudemike 11 ай бұрын
skierdude here. ggs! Would love to run into ya and fight again sometime.
@Oroboro
@Oroboro 11 ай бұрын
GG dude!!! 😁
@vulkarma741
@vulkarma741 11 ай бұрын
I haven’t used them in pvp yet (haven’t touched pvp yet, i will once i have unlocked all of the buyable stuff and completed ng++) but at least in the campaign, the laser handguns (don’t remember their name) are pretty good against most of the ACs i have fought, I literally just spam them (i don’t like their charged shot), before I found out how stupid the stun cannon was I usually used the aoe shoulder weapons (not the charge up ones), or the laser cannons if i absolutely needed it for the boss fights.
@kaliduncanel3356
@kaliduncanel3356 8 ай бұрын
And thus the meta was born
@GoldenStripedMonkey
@GoldenStripedMonkey 11 ай бұрын
Your drip is fire🔥🐍
@Ascendancy08
@Ascendancy08 11 ай бұрын
I think a rematch with FightinCowboy would be super hype.
@SoulNinjaKen
@SoulNinjaKen 11 ай бұрын
Tbh if Oro stays lightweight with dual Zim it's kinda a coinflip if Cowboy uses Galting Tank
@michaelbelding1593
@michaelbelding1593 10 ай бұрын
I wish they had army mode where you had to make 5 unique mechs to register as a team and no parts could be used twice and when you fight your opponent each time you lost that mech would be gone and you have to defeat all of the opponents mechs also the mech don’t heal so if his mech is at 1 life when you start wi th your next mech they are still at 1 life
@MrMaksibon
@MrMaksibon 11 ай бұрын
drip king lmao
@LDSKRVODs
@LDSKRVODs 11 ай бұрын
Gotta look fresh even on the battlefield
@Halzin
@Halzin 11 ай бұрын
Great content as always oro! Also im curious if you use controller or mouse and keyboard for this game?
@Oroboro
@Oroboro 11 ай бұрын
Mouse and keyboard! 🤓
@Halzin
@Halzin 10 ай бұрын
@@Oroboro gotcha! I'll have to give that a shot for comparison. Thanks!
@Yannaro_Kim
@Yannaro_Kim 11 ай бұрын
Thats a good shotgun setup.
@lonewolf975
@lonewolf975 11 ай бұрын
are you playing with a controller or mouse and keyboard? I'm on m&k and struggle to keep my reticle on target as well as you do. Glad to see you're still rocking pvp in anything fromsoft will give you! seeing you play ac6 was a pleasant surprise.
@lonewolf975
@lonewolf975 11 ай бұрын
So uh turns out lock on is a thing and I forgot about it...
@timegun_
@timegun_ 9 ай бұрын
Never seen this game, heard of it or played it before, but this looks SUPER dope. Makes me wish i knew what was going on or what people are talking about in the comments/video
@dallasdavis3044
@dallasdavis3044 10 ай бұрын
7:38 dual zimmys behind his helmet 😂 Jesus
@coderaccoon6061
@coderaccoon6061 11 ай бұрын
I really wish the results screen would show damage delt/taken/assists/ mvp. Kills. Deaths.
@deadfall0324
@deadfall0324 6 ай бұрын
How does the matchmaking in this game work? I’ve sat for hours, multiple days in a row, and I’ve never found a single match in solos or team Q. Did I screw myself by playing the game to new game +5 before attempting PVP? The only thing I can think of is that it matches you with people in the same Newgame + as you, but even then I should still get at least one match. I’m just really bummed out. I don’t have Wi-Fi at my house and I was visiting someone who had Wi-Fi and I thought this would be my chance to play multiplayer, but multiplayer just doesn’t work. Does anyone have any ideas what’s going on? I’m connected to Wi-Fi and I’m connected to the games online servers 😖
@gabriellightbringer9582
@gabriellightbringer9582 11 ай бұрын
I love to bully people who run dual Zimmerman. And yeah, the meta is running towards Zimmermann. Just run a tetra with all the missiles and laugh at them
@brandonansardi7710
@brandonansardi7710 11 ай бұрын
It'll definitely be nice when the zimms and the needles get nerfed. They hit sooo hard lol.
@reenierkendrickdelosreyes9264
@reenierkendrickdelosreyes9264 10 ай бұрын
Dunno if its mouse movement but the way Oro very quickly tracks his opponents, I still haven't figured it out, to quickly face the opponent after they get off screen and track them.(even hardlocked)
@Grancrest_8695
@Grancrest_8695 10 ай бұрын
It might be a bit quicker with a mouse but on console it's the Quick Turn unlock from the OS Tuning.
@AtiCrossfireX
@AtiCrossfireX 11 ай бұрын
As a huge Armored core fan. The only issue I'm having is Auto lock on.
@askingwhyisfree7436
@askingwhyisfree7436 7 ай бұрын
this game is so cool bro
@Kyozxc
@Kyozxc 11 ай бұрын
Whats that red weapon smthing in 2nd enemy
@griffinkriss5636
@griffinkriss5636 11 ай бұрын
I almost had a seziure watching that 🤣
@Bigdredgen
@Bigdredgen 11 ай бұрын
Earlier today I was testing Zimmerman and Lance, thought I was a genius, first dude I see on this video was using it.
@XX-pq6cu
@XX-pq6cu 11 ай бұрын
this is like the optimal build for pvp (dual wield zimmermans and the laser shotguns) in my opinion if u get like jump legs fast booster and these weapons u charge the laser shotguns when ur close up to one shot like a melee weapon OP
@Huuuuuuue
@Huuuuuuue 11 ай бұрын
The big build that I found that farms everything (including double shotguns) is wheelchair legs with dual nebula rifles, dual vertical plasma launchers, the VE-20B generator with max firearm specialization, and the Ayre chest that maxes Generator adjustment. You can just spam out high damage aoe that's extremely difficult to dodge and move at about 370 boost speed, fast enough that you can easily outrun any shotgun build anyone's running and stagger them by the time they get close. The only rough thing is it gets shit on by air camp missile builds, but you can just read their build in the lobby and swap for siege missiles + coral missiles to counter.
@Hustler2_
@Hustler2_ 11 ай бұрын
​@@HuuuuuuueI think I fought you once in the arena, it was the exact same build, lol
@Huuuuuuue
@Huuuuuuue 11 ай бұрын
@@Hustler2_ If you fought Hue then yeah that was me.
@TayfunTheWolf
@TayfunTheWolf 11 ай бұрын
I Hope Rank System like Arena Mode come in the Game
@YggdrasilsBranches
@YggdrasilsBranches 10 ай бұрын
Terminal armor is clutch in pvp. I can only see it being clutch in pve if you just finished a hard area by the skin of your teeth right before a supply drop or a boss when you are out of repair kits but you know you have enough dps and impact damage to stagger the boss and go all out, finishing the job.
@ethana.kaknes6014
@ethana.kaknes6014 11 ай бұрын
A little tip Sweet Sixteen hits as hard as the Zimmerman and isnt affected by energy resistance
@LGreymark
@LGreymark 11 ай бұрын
Zimmerman isn't affected by energy resistance either. Or are you suggesting he switch out the energy shotty?
@slappytheclown4
@slappytheclown4 11 ай бұрын
Is the PvP only 1v1 in this game? The gameplay seems perfect for pvp, hopefully they expand upon it.
@sladevalen2120
@sladevalen2120 11 ай бұрын
There is also a 3v3 mode that functions like team death match with respawns and other such things
@Zerir
@Zerir 11 ай бұрын
I feel this A.C needs some ranking and extra modes maybe something similar lile Exteel had
@sazr9569
@sazr9569 11 ай бұрын
Dual Zimmerman is literally how I killed all the ai arena bots
@AlienSquidMonster
@AlienSquidMonster 11 ай бұрын
awesome build and awesome video man!! But for anybody out there, whats the anti zimmerman shotgun stagger build??? preferably earlier game tech too, but not a must. since shotguns are king right now
@CaptainSkylocke
@CaptainSkylocke 11 ай бұрын
Missiles and lots of distance works
@ThatGuy-cc2sv
@ThatGuy-cc2sv 11 ай бұрын
Anything that can create distance that outranges the zimms maximum works. Laser cannons, linear rifles, missile launchers, etc. To create that distance boost speed of around 360 is ideal, the higher the better. If your build is slower than that try reverse joints to make the jump boost make up for it.
@CaptainSkylocke
@CaptainSkylocke 11 ай бұрын
If you stay out of range so most of the spread misses you you'll be ok.
@Joseph_mother
@Joseph_mother 11 ай бұрын
Old Vet Oro showin em who boss
@ryanvue5328
@ryanvue5328 11 ай бұрын
They need to add game modes like capture the flag or free for all. Like the game Exsteel
@nangmangta
@nangmangta 11 ай бұрын
Zimmerman shotguna and... what are those guns?
@trabbit1804
@trabbit1804 11 ай бұрын
Is this build good for pve too? Love the design of your AC btw
@SoulNinjaKen
@SoulNinjaKen 11 ай бұрын
Dual Zimmerman beats everything both Boss and PvP I'd say if u really wanna embrace that meta slave go dual zim and needle cannons on ur back to decimate Bosses or anyone who gets staggered
@toram6210
@toram6210 11 ай бұрын
Shotguns are OP For many series
@KABLAMMATS
@KABLAMMATS 11 ай бұрын
Training arc?!
@SYL3NZR
@SYL3NZR 11 ай бұрын
zimmers, and shotguns in general are cheese level of broken imo, i'd argue they are actually the best weapons in the game unironically
@Huuuuuuue
@Huuuuuuue 11 ай бұрын
Nebula rifles and siege missiles are the real menaces.
@GuilhermeSouza-gi6pn
@GuilhermeSouza-gi6pn 10 ай бұрын
Sheldon cooper voice😂
@gameclips5734
@gameclips5734 11 ай бұрын
wouldn't be oroboro pvp without an easy meta build
@FUBRTitansDogma
@FUBRTitansDogma 11 ай бұрын
The first match 1hp left god dam
@nunull6427
@nunull6427 11 ай бұрын
Terminal armor I believe
@sxrub3310
@sxrub3310 11 ай бұрын
​@@nunull6427gawd damn tears of denial is back??
@AliensofCuba
@AliensofCuba 11 ай бұрын
here's hoping there's a balance patch soon... getting real boring seeing the same setups 90% of the time
@gogojordanmasterofpolyethy105
@gogojordanmasterofpolyethy105 10 ай бұрын
there are superior set ups out there, this is just a very noob friendly build
@StupidAnon-gn8ih
@StupidAnon-gn8ih 11 ай бұрын
Have you seen G9's wheelchair build? That's probably getting nerfed before the shotguns.
@SoulNinjaKen
@SoulNinjaKen 11 ай бұрын
I doubt anything will get nerfed before those shotguns
@sunsetsbane5758
@sunsetsbane5758 11 ай бұрын
ahhh the fortnite quad pump build
@Von_Craven
@Von_Craven 11 ай бұрын
I have not had the time to play any pvp yet as i just finished the 3rd ending. pvp is going to be interesting but fun.
@SoulNinjaKen
@SoulNinjaKen 11 ай бұрын
I mean its interesting when the dual zim users arnt there
@Tur-hj3rv
@Tur-hj3rv 10 ай бұрын
Precicion nice
@user-dp1oj6hk8t
@user-dp1oj6hk8t 11 ай бұрын
I fought you before in s 1V1 match. Good game
@davidesmas3206
@davidesmas3206 11 ай бұрын
This man has 1 build & 1 build only💀
@samaaaa1
@samaaaa1 11 ай бұрын
4 shotguns is so corny. But at least you're having fun
@Dingdongjermm
@Dingdongjermm 11 ай бұрын
Did you make your decal yourself or did fromsoft hook you up because of the "testing" you did? Looks clean P.s: Why am i getting gears of war gnasher flashbacks😂
@Oroboro
@Oroboro 11 ай бұрын
Evil on Paper made it for me 😁 they are a wizard with the image editor!
@VOXindie
@VOXindie 10 ай бұрын
Why does everyone have LOADER 4?
@CeceliPS3
@CeceliPS3 11 ай бұрын
8:54 - I enjoyed that. Get f'd, cheeser.
@lukelmaooooo
@lukelmaooooo 11 ай бұрын
is it weird that im more attached to my AC than i was my horse in RDR2?
@frankjager2420
@frankjager2420 9 ай бұрын
Im nervous trying pvp. I was never really good compared to other players in other games. Street Fighter 5 I was decent at, but thats really it
@SillacSaurfang
@SillacSaurfang 11 ай бұрын
I love this game so much that I'm upgrading my 7400k with a 12400 just so I can get good performance without disabling EAC.
@DevouringKing
@DevouringKing 10 ай бұрын
This game needs good hardware ? With my Amd Ryzen and 6700 non xt i was never under 120 fps with all high
@abysschef5078
@abysschef5078 11 ай бұрын
So lightweight frames are the meta? Personally I only enjoy the heavier frames that have 18000hp minimum lol. Then again I only play pve for now.
@Darklinkftw12
@Darklinkftw12 11 ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of heavy tank builds too
@AEspiral
@AEspiral 11 ай бұрын
Actually in the mech side there is variety, the lack of variety are in the weapons with shotguns rulling the show.
@abysschef5078
@abysschef5078 11 ай бұрын
@@AEspiral good to know!
@rivercochran8173
@rivercochran8173 11 ай бұрын
Nah, it's more like shottys like the zimmerman that rule pvp, since most other kinetic weapons, except the gatlings and pistols for stagger, are a little underwhelming. And since shottys are easy to use while also being powerful, they are the natural choice for many (including me lol)
@Huuuuuuue
@Huuuuuuue 11 ай бұрын
​@@AEspiralShotguns are kinda mid. The real menaces are the handheld siege missiles and the nebula plasma rifles with the VE-20B generator. Make one wheelchair loadout with the nebulas, one with the siege missiles, and between the two you can dumpster every single other build in the meta.
@pitied3744
@pitied3744 11 ай бұрын
Feel like the Zimmies are getting a nerf soon
@SoulNinjaKen
@SoulNinjaKen 11 ай бұрын
They better, cause the only way to beat em is to play super faat n floaty with range or as my friend calls it "bitch-like" Especially if they dont hard lock, itll be even easier Or dual Gatling Tank and hope they arnt very good at the game. Obviously few exceptions with skill level but that's basically the gist, 1 counter and it's a single playstyle/build
@AmbroseBoaBowie
@AmbroseBoaBowie 11 ай бұрын
Quad leg high alpha are good anti zimerman counters. But knowing how top play it is another sort.
@vietnamabc2290
@vietnamabc2290 11 ай бұрын
They counter zimmer by tank dual gatling
@SoulNinjaKen
@SoulNinjaKen 11 ай бұрын
They only counter if the Zim user is bad, otherwise anything that isnt a super floaty fast aerial range build that's never near em. Hard loses. I can say Galting Tank is a coinflip but Dual Zim has the better chance
@Huuuuuuue
@Huuuuuuue 11 ай бұрын
​@@SoulNinjaKenI've been farming zimmerman users with a dual nebula rifle dual vertical plasma launcher wheelchair build where I run the Ayre chest and VE-20B generator for max firearm specialization. They're extremely difficult to dodge even at mid range and you end up with about 370 boost speed, more than enough to outrun shotgun builds and stagger them by the time they get close.
@Usersunited
@Usersunited 11 ай бұрын
@@Huuuuuuue Zimmermans are not as oppressive as everyone thinks. Yeah, naturally you're going to get dunked by a guy using zimzams if you're playing with machine guns or any assortment of bad missile weapons. But they are far from the top build. The lack of matchmaking or ranked has everyone peddling bad information about zimmermans being "so good". Meanwhile sleeping on the fact that a even a simple pulse shield parrying makes them worthless.
@Huuuuuuue
@Huuuuuuue 11 ай бұрын
@@Usersunited Tbh I think the real menace are the missile builds. A basic reverse-jointed or bipedal missile build can just be rushed down by a bunch of different builds, but air tank and tetrapod missile builds are just about the only thing I've run into that can win a matchup against wheelchair builds, and the only direct counter I've figured out is reverse joint to dodge the missiles and missiles yourself to abuse the poor maneuverability.
@russellbuzarang6390
@russellbuzarang6390 3 ай бұрын
I wish this becomes an eSport
@witchkid66
@witchkid66 11 ай бұрын
imagine ac invasions 😭😂
@john-paul3271
@john-paul3271 11 ай бұрын
Laser shot guns are terrible? I can’t use them. 🤷‍♂️
@spectacularnub3468
@spectacularnub3468 11 ай бұрын
Moonlight sword build when
@hurtboychulo7371
@hurtboychulo7371 11 ай бұрын
Quad shotgun harassment build😭right out the gate
@incrediblehak2833
@incrediblehak2833 11 ай бұрын
Do you use the auto target assist in pvp or do you aim manually?
@Oroboro
@Oroboro 11 ай бұрын
I aim manually with soft lock 🙂
@incrediblehak2833
@incrediblehak2833 11 ай бұрын
@@Oroboro outa curiosity, why choose soft lock over hard lock
@Oroboro
@Oroboro 11 ай бұрын
@@incrediblehak2833 Better accuracy!
@echomjp
@echomjp 11 ай бұрын
Dual Zimmermans are good, but they do have weaknesses. The two second reload time means you can be out of luck for quite a bit in close quarters if you miss compared to things like the energy shotguns. They do great initial stagger, but if your enemy has enough stability to take that stagger then you are going to struggle to break guard just with them due to their reload time giving enough time for stagger regeneration or whatever. They work best against light enemies, yet light enemies are also the most capable of keeping distance from you if they are smart. I'll have to do more PvP myself at some point, but I really want to beat the whole game and get through NG+ and NG++ before I do much of that. Because I want to make sure I have unlocked enough weapons and have enough potential builds to really enjoy myself in PvP, and then I'll put some hours into it. A lot of weapons I saw in this video for example I don't even have yet - I could mimic your build, but I don't really like the quad shotgun build much myself.
@34dore
@34dore 11 ай бұрын
Dual zimmermans make the main story of the game pretty much a joke, its how I S ranked bosses I had extreme difficulty with in the beginning. The reload time does NOT matter as much as you'd first think, because at close range they WILL stagger almost anything in the game if both hits land, which is very easy to make happen given the extreme projectile speed.
@kevo300
@kevo300 11 ай бұрын
There are alot of gear locked behind the combat logs if you need more weapons/gear
@Dark_Soulful
@Dark_Soulful 11 ай бұрын
​@@kevo300Does it just give it to you or is it unlocked in the shop?
@34dore
@34dore 11 ай бұрын
@@Dark_Soulful both, you get it for the main slot of that weapon (right hand, right shoulder) and then you can buy it for the other slot.
@Kuzo53
@Kuzo53 11 ай бұрын
I wish there were emotes in this game
@TheManlyVIK
@TheManlyVIK 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad there isn't
@quimeybeadeiribarne9938
@quimeybeadeiribarne9938 10 ай бұрын
i see pvp then see dual zimmerman........
@Zane12ai
@Zane12ai 10 ай бұрын
What the fuk is that movement, i feel lile im watching a top 500 tracer... I may be doomed from the start but thats not going to stop me from getting the game
@thanhvu2377
@thanhvu2377 11 ай бұрын
17:33 Alexa play Despacito
@slow9573
@slow9573 11 ай бұрын
In general the recovery from stagger is too quick. Needs to be just slightly longer. And the effectiveness of the zim zams is just absurd lol. Probably needs .... addressed.
@eldonhill4840
@eldonhill4840 11 ай бұрын
Personally I disagree, stagger doesn't need any buffs to be stronger when it's already the main meta and best way to do damage in pvp. If anything, I would say stagger build-up and maybe even direct hit damage need to be nerfed
@ghoulofthebeat4946
@ghoulofthebeat4946 11 ай бұрын
A lot of even semi decent builds can get you dead or very close to dead in a single stagger. If anything stagger recovery needs to be quicker across the board.
@slow9573
@slow9573 11 ай бұрын
@@eldonhill4840 I can agree that stagger build up and direct damage could be nerfed slightly, but the duration of the stagger I still think should be increased just slightly. I'm not talking big changes here, other than the Zimmerman which is over the top.
@slow9573
@slow9573 11 ай бұрын
@@ghoulofthebeat4946 Like the other guy said, nerf direct damage a bit and stagger build up. But the stagger duration should have a very small increase.
@OkachSakunaOfficial
@OkachSakunaOfficial 11 ай бұрын
what is this build brother god damn
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