Armwrestling thoughts (14): who cares about pronation?

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Mindaugas Tarasaitis Armwrestling

Mindaugas Tarasaitis Armwrestling

2 жыл бұрын

Who cares about pronation?
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@kaganturktur
@kaganturktur 8 ай бұрын
The most important muscles to toproll according to top armwrestlers ; Arsen Liliev : Brachioradialis Engin Terzi : Pronation Michael Todd : Biceps John Brzenk : Lats Mindaugas Tarasaitis : Gluteus 💀
@jobidden2073
@jobidden2073 2 жыл бұрын
As Devon Larrat pointed out in a ~2014 seminar a toptoller must start the pull with the pronator nearly fully contracted and rely on the static and eccentric (negative) strength to provide the attacking strength through the hand as you simultaneously utilise back and side pressure depending on your and your opponents style. The same applies if you need to do a low hand toproll in straps as Janis Jedi Amolins does.
@jaimerodriguezdemianvonaug2860
@jaimerodriguezdemianvonaug2860 Ай бұрын
Thanku very muc Mindaugas. As a top rollete, thiswas very valiable. Pure gold
@ArmWrestlingOverdose
@ArmWrestlingOverdose Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! I can't even open a girl's hand by using pronation alone (try to REALLY isolate the pronator before you start laughing and you will see what I mean), no matter how strong I feel it's just too weak by itself, however as soon as I engage my whole arm and a bit of my back, it feels like a knife cutting through butter, it's night and day difference.
@yonatanlaufer1546
@yonatanlaufer1546 2 жыл бұрын
Man, you really have some serious skills when it comes to breaking down the different ways of execution and explaining it in a way that everybody can understand. You would be a great coach! I see now how the exercise with the band holding and sliding to the fridge comes together perfectly for your back pressure technique! Great video!
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm 2 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@GuillaumeDepoyant
@GuillaumeDepoyant 2 жыл бұрын
"Who cares about pronation?" => he literally has the pronator with the size of a golf ball xD Very instructive Mindaugas, thanks - stay strong!
@pablozote
@pablozote 2 ай бұрын
Interesting points but look at min 6:00 you said “try to not open up”, what I mean by this is that if you open up, it does not matter if you have the strongest bicep or the stronger lads, pronation and tendon strength for me, is the principal force in arm wrestling since they allow you to hold and not open up
@Autumnnss
@Autumnnss 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge. Very insightful. Good luck during the rest of the year.
@bobomonkey702
@bobomonkey702 2 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Never thought of it that way. Thanks for the video. Very helpful.
@Kevingrip
@Kevingrip Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your huge win at East vs West today. This video is filled with incredible knowledge 🤯
@bangpatar
@bangpatar 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr. Mindaugas
@DCteamtraceur
@DCteamtraceur Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@rileyneufeld7001
@rileyneufeld7001 2 жыл бұрын
Good insights about relationship between backpressure and pronation. I seem to have good pronation but not enough backpressure. A video on slipping would be great btw!
@Leonard_Bathory
@Leonard_Bathory 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice, thank you minde
@nickd.7267
@nickd.7267 Жыл бұрын
Cupping. The only way to contain pronation is through cupping and back pressure. Somebody who's strictly relies on pronation is somebody trying to do the same thing. What helps containment in a hook is supination.
@jordan75212
@jordan75212 2 жыл бұрын
This was great to hear. 👌
@maxxtherott293
@maxxtherott293 2 ай бұрын
Very much needed knowledge 😍… u r my favourite arm wrestler ryt now … behind Devon ..
@rockolee
@rockolee Жыл бұрын
this is 1 of the most valuable videos on arm wrestling, OF ALL TIME!!
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm Жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@user-wq3bh7rz8i
@user-wq3bh7rz8i 5 ай бұрын
thnx to open your technik so detailed
@IgorKalember
@IgorKalember 2 жыл бұрын
Love your dry humor
@JohnHughesTR
@JohnHughesTR 10 ай бұрын
I think pronation as a technique is more important than the workouts
@Mika-pv4bw
@Mika-pv4bw 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@user-sk3em1sy7c
@user-sk3em1sy7c 2 жыл бұрын
Good video!!! Please make a video of strap technic toooo
@sergejmaher144
@sergejmaher144 8 ай бұрын
nice one mindaaa
@producermind9030
@producermind9030 Жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@brutus_zone
@brutus_zone Жыл бұрын
Easy for you bro 🤌🤌💪💪
@Sisyphusmyth1993
@Sisyphusmyth1993 2 жыл бұрын
"You're as strong as your weakest link", I think you're familiar with that phase. IMO, If you don't have strong enough pronation to hold the position you are the strongest, you won't be able to facillitate your strength. In this case nor the elbow flexors, nor the back muscles will matter. Just a little anecdote to back my point, in my last tournament a battle went to the straps, a guy got a hold of me lower on the hand where he would control the pronator and managed to open my palm and get the win on me. My arm (back pressure + flexors) didn't budge, I coudn't feel him but he still managed to break the weakest link in the chain.
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm 2 жыл бұрын
"You're as strong as your weakest link"
@tashmoo
@tashmoo Жыл бұрын
@@tarasaitis_arm so we should care a bit about pronation maybe?:)
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm Жыл бұрын
@@tashmoo :)
@tashmoo
@tashmoo Жыл бұрын
@@tarasaitis_arm great win against justin btw, i was there watching you live, sitting next to you where u were warmin up. Great match bro
@giosulakadze7589
@giosulakadze7589 Жыл бұрын
@@tashmoo we should care about pronation but what mindaugas said is that we dont need full motion to train it we should improve our pronation staticalywith the goal to not get turned over instead of trying to pronate when you get turned over
@yasminhazinedar9426
@yasminhazinedar9426 Жыл бұрын
You’re good looking at closer.
@Mode307
@Mode307 2 жыл бұрын
Whats better strap set up for toproll ?
@aManSwanson
@aManSwanson 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Minde, im really tall guy so i almost every time start the match with my elbow all the way back on the pad. What would you say is the best way to produce the most outside power in this example? Thank you, love the vids!
@borisrovchenko7747
@borisrovchenko7747 Жыл бұрын
Train your back pressure More and Also your wrist and fingers strength
@joemarley5982
@joemarley5982 3 ай бұрын
Travis Bagent would be proud
@fabriciusbjerre
@fabriciusbjerre 2 жыл бұрын
I think your point that the weakest link breaks the chain is a very important point. I think that this means that not very strong armwrestlers should TRAIN their probation dynamically, but ARMWRESTLE with it staticly. Train it so it can withstand the static pressure, when doing a backpressure-sttle toproll. What do you think?
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed :)
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
This is what Bob Brown the partner of john brzenk said too
@andthebeatgoeson69
@andthebeatgoeson69 2 жыл бұрын
💪💪
@DipankarGhosh007
@DipankarGhosh007 Жыл бұрын
My bck pressure is superior than my hand control, i shud develop my bicep static power more
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm Жыл бұрын
I would say you should work on hand control then
@DipankarGhosh007
@DipankarGhosh007 15 күн бұрын
​@@tarasaitis_armthanks for the suggestion
@philwoodyuk
@philwoodyuk Жыл бұрын
Exactly what MMT has worked on exclusively for the last half of his career. Wish you'd both be in each others corner at EvW5?
@raulachimet6293
@raulachimet6293 2 жыл бұрын
Good armwrestler have to focus on all armwrestling fundamental's
@igravier9187
@igravier9187 6 ай бұрын
what is more important Riser or Pronator?
@armwrestlingmunchen2339
@armwrestlingmunchen2339 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@evanstanley2349
@evanstanley2349 2 жыл бұрын
Do you sometimes use weight in this training or you just using the band?
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm 2 жыл бұрын
I do use weights sometimes
@sinewyslacker8978
@sinewyslacker8978 Жыл бұрын
So you’re not convinced that the loss of speed and explosivity from high levels of loading before the go is much of a problem? Should most all armwrestlers be loading more than many think?
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm Жыл бұрын
Explosiveness is not one of my strengths. So I focus more on static strength. And loading helps a lot. But if someone is very explosive by nature, it can for sure be a weapon. In that case, they should not load.
@sinewyslacker8978
@sinewyslacker8978 Жыл бұрын
@@tarasaitis_arm thank you because i lean towards explosivity and i was a bit worried i was making mistakes lol
@gripriparmwrestling
@gripriparmwrestling Жыл бұрын
Maybe with a little more pronation training you can beat Nurdaulet Aidarkhan.
@RzA5
@RzA5 29 күн бұрын
are we gonna ignore that this dude has vampireteeth? dude might be 500 years old and winnig because of it :D
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm 29 күн бұрын
:D
@Kuveblogs66
@Kuveblogs66 Жыл бұрын
Bro is a vampire disguised as man look at his teeth that's why he's too strong and fast for his weight 😂
@dcgaming6898
@dcgaming6898 Жыл бұрын
dang you're such a sleeper. If i saw you on the street I'd think I can take you and I'd be in for a terrible surprise.
@user-uj4hm4ft7i
@user-uj4hm4ft7i 2 жыл бұрын
VAMPIR))
@Georgeos777
@Georgeos777 5 ай бұрын
aaah you are an vampire :O your teeth!!!
@Georgeos777
@Georgeos777 5 ай бұрын
why dont fix the garbage in the background, there is such concept called order i guess
@rosshorsley1591
@rosshorsley1591 2 жыл бұрын
If you trained pronation more you could beat Daniel 😎💪
@tarasaitis_arm
@tarasaitis_arm 2 жыл бұрын
I would disagree :) Daniels biggest weapon is still his flop wrist press. And it ignores my pronation. Last time I chose to not go there because of some elbow problems but I can still open his wrist. The hardest part starts after that. :)
@rosshorsley1591
@rosshorsley1591 2 жыл бұрын
@@tarasaitis_arm I tried your walking back exercise modified with weights and a TRX belt today. I dig it I like how when you are walking back when the weigh engages it’s like taking a hit.
@devoncyplenkov7746
@devoncyplenkov7746 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
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