Reconnaissance marines vs army rangers

Please do Army Counterintelligence next.

Army Rangers Hooah. I like Navy Seal too.

@@ericbelton6239 nice

@@SayNoToDemocide1 nice

Thank you !!! Kill’s me to here civilian talk about these different units like they are football teams

Or maybe the competition between them is a good thing. Compete with each other to be the best to destroy the enemy better

​@@trobertwthere is no competition. Both have objectives. Both are highly trained. They often operate tigether with different objectives within the same mission

One is Army, one is Navy. At the end of the day, despite the camaraderie between us, we’re all part of the Armed Forces. Phuck that separation of vs

That’s the cool thing kids do

I'd say that's true. Being in a Ranger Batt... is harder than being in any other SOF unit. The standard is no mother fucking joke.

@@MM-qt8gzy’all are forgetting CCT.

​@@MM-qt8gz can you tell me.more about it I've been acting to.join the forces but I'm stuck between marine or ranger school

​@@jrocks273 Are you tough enough? 1. Get saved by the Lord Jesus Christ immediately. 2. Read the King James bible daily. 3. Pray and give thanks for all things daily. Those are the main three things. Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

@@storm2945I’m gonna join the air force after I’m done with the army

As simple as that 😂

They are spec ops. But ranger deploy for Tasks that require a decent number of troops while seals deployments are much smaller

@@paleriderpublishing451 but now ranger got their own elit unit / group too: the regimental reconnasaincce company.

Lol smart-ass answer 🤣

I was wondering…couldn’t put my finger on it…so thanks….haha😅

So weird I thought you were one of my siblings the way you said that. My dad exactly the same. Airborne Ranger. We’re adults and all still scared of him

No shit they’re literally an infantry battalion. Even the regular conventional army and marines killed more people than special operations…

All due respect man, that whack-mole-counterterrorism/counter insurgent is how we keep losing fights and our brothers. The war of attrition doesn’t work for us, foreign internal defense and intelligence operations are what really pay the dividends, that’s why CAG/ST6/ISA/SAD and other SMUs are preferred for high profile missions

I understand you!! and you're right, but what happens is that mostly foreign internal defense is done by the green berets, even the green berets during the Gwot created CiF companies that rescued hostages, and were in charge of direct action. Now that the USA is going against China the Green Berets have also just created HTD Hard Target Defeat units to break into underground bunkers, rescue hostages and search and destroy sensitive material. Many people don't like Green Berets because they don't do 24/7 Direct Action but the reality is that the more versatile a unit like the SF are teachers, who teach and then lead guerrillas to hit targets deep behind enemy lines, that's always going to have an advantage, because they can operate before, during and after the war, that's why units that only do direct action are limited, because they can't be used all the time.

SAS/SBS 🎉

Facts

Nice

@@emmanuelawosusi2365 yeah he’s a great guy, my other two older brothers followed his footsteps and went in years later.

@@nubbletv3822 that whats up

Who f*cking cares!!??

Cool

if you want to mess up the mission and shoot your own and then blame it on the enemy and be jealous of the Seals, send it to the Rangers.

⁠​⁠@@deathfire096so you have nothing better to do than go and reply to all these comments by whining about the army? 😂

@@dominomurphy4223 I only reply to dumb people. 😂

@@dominomurphy4223 He's probably someone who never made it pass MEPS.

@@deathfire096Rangers are the most toxic fuckin crybabies out of all the DOD. I guarantee there’s just as many Strangers that wrote books, but they don’t get the hype cause no one cares to hear from a ranger danger 😂😂

you were in college with a 50 year old?

@@AF-bl1lkgi bill

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! My thoughts, exactly!!@@AF-bl1lk

Yeah. Being tabbed isn't the same as regiment.

A ranger battalion could hold their own against a seal team huh? You realize that there are 600 rangers in a batllion and only 16 seals on a team? Well I guess yeah, a ranger batallion of 600 could hold their own against just 16 men lol. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT you were ever much more than a cook in the army and def not a sniper lol.

​@@ggrene8266There's basic rangers and then there's the most skilled rangers, depends on the tier. Tier 1 rangers can easily hold their own against Navy Seals.

@@ggrene8266 i really don't give a fuck what you believe

​@@ggrene8266stop playing so much call of duty bro. The Rangers' achievements make Seals look like imbeciles

Force recon and raiders have way more individual specialized training than rangers. Rangers should be compared to BATTALION recon.

@NomadSupreme911 lol dude raiders do not even compare to Rangers. Rangers are fitter, more aggressive, tactically far superior than a fucking recon. You know so many recon dudes regret not going rangers

​@@MM-qt8gz you need to read your own comment. You switched from raiders to recon. You do know there is a difference?

National guard cooks are better 😂

They're are plenty of books written by Rangers. Don't get mad at SEALs because no one wants to read them because people understand the Rangers are really just glorified conventional infantry.

@@NomadSupreme911ranger regiment are “glorified conventional infantry” who do raids, mission planning, rifle marksmanship, rucking, land navigation, small unit tactics, breaching, CQB, CSAR, medical training, airborne operations, land reconnaissance better than any vanilla SEAL team. Regular active duty light infantry does most of these things better than vanilla SEALs. Rangers also have out shot SEALs almost every year at the USASOC sniper competition which is the most prestigious shooting competition in the military.

@@sgedeon01 it takes like sixty days to become a Ranger. They're just infantry. Period.

@@NomadSupreme911 Spoken like a typical ignorant SEAL fanboy who underestimates ranger regiment because he thinks the only high-speed things rangers do are RASP and ranger school. Army Ranger school is a small unit tactics leadership school unaffiliated with 75th RR. Ranger school falls under the airborne and ranger training brigade. 75th RR falls under USASOC. Anybody can go to ranger school although priority slots always go first to entry level army infantry officers followed by soldiers assigned to 75th RR. SEALs dont get anywhere near the same level of land warfare training as rangers. The path of an infantrymen who has a 75th ranger contract looks like this. All infantrymen regardless of where they are going must attend one station unit training (OSUT) which was 14 weeks. OSUT encompasses basic training and AIT for infantrymen where they start learning infantry skills. As of 2018 OSUT is 22 weeks long. www.army.mil/article/214765/22_week_infantry_osut_pilot_program_trainees_graduate_at_forefront_of_soldier_lethality After 22 weeks of OSUT the ranger candidate will then attend three week airborne school followed by 8 week RASP(ranger assessment and selection program). During 8 week RASP ranger candidates continue to learn marksmanship, medical training, physical training, small unit tactics and mobility. After graduating RASP the candidate gets assigned to a ranger battalion. Before the candidate can serve as a leader in 75th RR he or she must graduate 8 week ranger school. Training is continuous in 75th RR focusing on the big 5: marksmanship, physical fitness, medical training, small unit tactics, and mobility. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eq57aLR7tN6bYoE.html Regular entry level active-duty conventional infantry soldiers get more soldiering skills than SEALs who dont start learning land warfare until 3rd phase of BUDs. Rangers are often underestimated because they intentionally do not give their continuous training cycles fancy names.

The bottom line is that it is WAY harder to become a Seal than a ranger. Seals don't stop training after buds either. Ranger fanboys act like rangers are the only unit that keeps training.

Tomahawk combat 😂 that’s a new one

@@na8522 definitely is for a milk drinker like you 😭

This shit sounds epic looking it up. Your a good man thank yoy

If you are wanting to be an Elite medic, then go into the Airforce and go through their special operations pipeline to become a PJ

@@TheMangolorian735 or the Navy and become a SARC, not saying they are tier 1 but ....If rescue is more your thing,do the PJ. if its the medical, become a SARC.

Doubt it. It's Army after all. These are the same people that shot Pat Tillman 3 times to the head and 2 times up close and then blamed it on the enemy. So much for a higher caliber of competence and professionalism. LOL

@@deathfire096 ever heard of ‘Code Over Country’ by Matthew A. Coleman? It’s an entire book on SEAL faux pas in the last 50 years or so. Read a book. Be enlightened. Your super heroes are overrated and under qualified for the missions they usually fuck up. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@deathfire096 -ST6 leaves man behind on mountain in Afghanistan (captured on film) -ST6 murders Green Beret and tires to cover it up. -ST6 kills hostage with grenade, then sends false report -ST6 unnecessarily mutilates enemy bodies BTW, Rangers saved the one SEAL left on a poorly executed mission that should have never been conducted.

@@SNAKEEATER1776 Another Anti American Book? NO, thanks. I couldn’t help but wonder if he wasn’t bullied in school by alpha male types, because that’s how it seemed to come off. Let's compare all the screw ups since Vietnam to the Iraq war. Let's see who has the most screw ups. (wink, wink Army) I wonder why. I mean it's hard to swallow the Pat Tillman's case. Shot 3 times in the head and up close again and blamed it on the enemy? Is that what you call leadership.

@@SNAKEEATER1776 Saved? LOL they were on patrol in the area with the Afghanistan National Guard, it's their job. Now do the war crimes from Rangers since Vietnam. Come one, don't get timid now. Go look up Army Ranger John Needham in how he exposed war crimes by Rangers in Iraq and got punished for it. How Army Ranger Ray Girouard accused of war crimes of ordering the deaths of 3 unarmed Iraqi civilians. How about Army Ranger Alex Blum that turned into a criminal and bank robber. Army Ranger Elliot Sommer part of a 4 member Ranger crew in Fort Lewis robbing banks, rapes and killing in the war. 5 Rangers were arrested and charged with abusing detainees in Iraq in 2005. Rangers crimes are long and that's just in the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. I'm not touching Vietnan, where villages were burned down and people killed and raped. You open the can of worms when Rangers live in a china glass house. Thanks for the laugh.

You got it!

Rangers vs battalion recon would be more appropriate. Raiders are more capararable to seals and green berets.

@@NomadSupreme911 Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Yes even though your idea would also make another additional great video to dissect and watch here on GD. What makes your idea more appropriate than mine? I could say the same about your comment. Raiders and Rangers are more comparable because their both tier II, both have 3 battalions, both are described as light infantry (amphibious of course for raiders this is provided by wiki) both conduct and perform very similar missions and skill sets as well from Direct action, Raiding, Special operations, special reconnaissance etc. Size isn’t everything all the time. Their similarities and differences is what makes it an interesting video. Try thinking outside our comfortable little box before believing your ideas are superior to others.

@@praductjunior1519 tier isn't everything people think it is. Rangers don't receive the individual specialized training that other tier two units receive. Force recon gets WAY more specialized training than rangers but aren't officially special operators because they aren't a part of socom. Rangers are a highly trained CONVENTIONAL infantry unit on loan to SOCOM and JSOC to avoid the beaurocratic nightmare of SOCOM and JSOC having to ask the conventional military if they can borrow their best conventional infantrymen.

@@NomadSupreme911 Again, tier might not be everything’s it’s all hyped up to be (It’s just funding) but neither is battalion sized capabilities. You just turned your original opinionated statement into a fallacious argument. And for what? Initially your said Rangers and battalion level recon was more appropriate now you’re moving the goalpost onto FORECON and their training? Another hole in your hubris is, as respectable and SOC my Ricky Recon brothers are they don’t even fall under SOCOM. Like Raiders and Rangers do. Furthermore, if your sole focus is just this self perpetuating pontification of my idea is better than yours because Rangers and battalion recon make more sense because FORECON gets way more specialized training, then you should personally take the time and write GD. Informing them that they wasted their time and effort making a video comparing Navy SEALs and Army Rangers. Because we all know Navy SEALs are no battalion.

@@NomadSupreme911what individualized training don’t Rangers receive? Your understanding is pre 90s, and you keep equating ranger school with the 75th. My guess is you’re a regular army infantrymen who thinks you’re just as qualified as an actual Army Ranger because it feels good to brag without any of the training.

not in the ocean or any port.

how about who buffs the floors the best and who cleans the best showers.

Mos Def, they’ll send an infantry guy to ranger school first before a comms guy or a HQ platoon guy and at least back in the 80’s they’d make you reup to get the tab as you had to have 2 years left on your enlistment after ranger school to justify giving the school seat. I went to jumpschool in 1987 and they had the RIP recruiter there, I should have done it but I was a totally undisciplined kid and didn’t want to make the army a career so I didn’t do it. Biggest regret of my life but that’s life.

Regimental rangers don't necessarily go to ranger school before becoming a ranger. They have to ran through airborne school and rasp but can be deployed with the regiment multiple times before being assigned to ranger school.

@@275Vet-RLTW correct and as you may know this varies amongst career field and adds to the debate of “what is a Ranger.” A Ranger medic that I spoke to once, never attended RS. He said that the OpTempo was too high and that he was more of an asset to this unit along side them on train-up and deployments than in Ranger School.

If you buy the ranger handbook it will tell you about ranger history throughout its existence and more in terms of tactics, medical, etc.

That's good but you should be more concerned with your fitness, if you're not a PT monster already doing at least one 12mi ruck every week, preferably two, you had better get motivated FRFR or they are going to rip your balls of like a wet paper towel in RASP. Some of the guys you'll go through and compete with have been after it for YEARS already.

Me too but, have to get reevaluated for adhd before joining

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@darkgardener9577A 12 mile ruck every week can work just fine in the short term but that’s gonna tear any inexperienced rucker to shreds eventually, they need to pace their training especially in that regard. Running on the other hand, they can do much more liberally

@@Zero_Twice_00 ranger handbook is for ranger school. I can promise 75th doesn't use the ranger handbook lol

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the less the public knows about them, the better.

@@spartanwarrior1 I know. They're so secretive, the only things you can find on them are the things the Irish government let's you know for promotional reasons. They're so secretive that they wear other countries uniforms when they're working with other teams since they're from a neutral country. Like when they went to Timor with the US and the Rangers did some stuff they technically wouldn't be allowed to do, so they wore US uniforms.

Just stop. Before I laugh myself to death

@@kajemi2 Look it up

Lmao Korean navy seal xD

@@AutomnEscrime you’re really laughing at South Korean navy seals?? Lol ! Google them. They’ve ran some pretty badass missions

@RedHotStoveAustin year they are pretty badass but not enought compared to actual navy seals

What is Crom? You meant JW GROM vs KSK?

@@kimpapkimpaha7698 yes, misspelled it

A couple of dudes do it and now you’re basing the whole organization off of that?

Extortion 17 happened because a helicopter of seal team six operators was shot down while flying to rescue some army rangers

@@assclapper2231 Reinforce is save you dumb grunt. Rangers were being overrun by the Taliban. Rangers never get shot down? Ask Pat Tillman about that. 3 shots to the head and 2 to the chest at close range and then the Rangers blamed it on the enemy. Thanks for the laugh grunt. By the way, not only SEALs were killed in Extortion 17 but Army and Air Force operators since this was a multiple branch war. How old you are?

@@assclapper2231I don’t get why that matter acting as if any team was flying the bird lol?

@@assclapper2231 Cope because neither units you mentioned fly’s the crashes y’all are talking about? Are you that fucking stupid or you’re glazing some people you couldn’t hope to be? No reason to cope because I prefer PJ’s.

It’s embarrassing that you guys bring up a tragedy like Extortion 17. SEALs went on that helicopter because they wanted to help their Ranger brothers in arms. Yet, you guys here on this forum go back and forth about how Rangers or SEALs are better like a sports team.

Yes, absolutely. As long as you aren’t a disciplinary problem. They may ask you to wait a certain amount of time before reattempting

Ranger Pipeline is a lot shorter (2 months). SEAL Pipeline is 1 and a half years. Rangers usually operate as larger elements than SEALs. However, staying in Regiment is no joke. If you are not cutting it, you will get RFS’d.

@@joeseph4727 I want a challenge, navy seals sounds like something that can push me beyond my limits. I know rangers is very difficult and hard but I think being with them would limit me as to the seals extensive training

Sounds about right

And ranger regiment infantry NCOs still smoke vanilla SEALs at rucking, land navigation, small unit tactics, CQB, breaching, mission planning, airborne operations, CQM, crew served weapon competency, land reconnaissance, and scalability.

Is not their fault that Rangers have low I.Q’s to even write a sentence let alone a book. The most famous Ranger was Pat Tillman and the Rangers shot him 3 times in the head and few times at close range and blamed it on the enemy. I guess that book isn’t selling well. 😂

I feel like both guys write books. Also, the books really provide a lot of details about units that no-one would know about.

@@joeseph4727 They all earned the right to write a book after the little pay the U.S. government pays them. Just like some people are jealous of them that they can't be them. If they could all write a book about their job they would.

@@deathfire096if Seals had high IQ they wouldn‘t actively seek the camera.

@@kimpapkimpaha7698 that’s nothing to do with IQ. Plenty of Rangers on social media. According to you they have low IQ. 😂

SEALS are tier 1 and tier 2 and all are Combat Divers. Seals wins easily this part.

​@deathfire096 you have no idea what you're talking about lmao. Regular SEALs aren't tier 1 clown

It’s obviously not something you’re taking seriously.

Why be a Ranger or Seal???? Do something that translates to a good civilian job after you leave the military!!! The main reason that people want a job as a Seal, Ranger, or whatever so they can brag to their friends saying they're "badass!!". Don't worry about being so-called "badass!". Americans LOVE to brag!! 😡😡🤬🤬

@@bigdee8189 Yep, and those dudes DOR faster than you can say Jack. Some people don’t want to transfer to the civilian life, or want to do something cool first, there are few places where one could make a living out of shooting guns and jumping out of planes.

@@nolanfrazier3482 Hardly make a living, go soccer kid, you only have one chance for that, you can join the army when you’re in your 30s.

@@biglennyslastsight8759 Sling it down range like a man

Ranger regiment does all land land warfare related tasks better than vanilla SEAL teams and most land warfare tasks better than ST6. SEALs are only super elite compared with the rest of the navy.

Not really. SEALs and 75th are way more comparable than Green Berets. Green Berets mission is totally different

Why “they should” is kind of irrelevant, Marine leadership is never going to let that happen. They’re too set in their ways.

I think Marine Command wants to utilize them as organic reconnaissance assets and don’t want to lose them to SOCOM. Army had something similar before with Long Range Surveillance (LRS). LRS guys got to go to all these cool schools and training but were never part of SOCOM.

Army Combat Diver School is NOT the same as Navy Combat Diver School. Navy trains in deeper waters including from submarines. You will never see any Army CD operating from a submarine or taking siege of a ship at sea or port or take over an oil rig captured by the enemy. When the U.S. needs underwater gas pipelines to be blown up undetected they call the Seals.

@@assclapper2231 that’s why We have the regular military for. You don’t use a Porsche 911 to haul patio garbage.

@@assclapper2231 you hit yourself like faster than I could. 😂

@@assclapper2231 prove what Rambo?

@@assclapper2231 you must be former Army grunt. Not the brightest bulbs. 😂

Those are the ones that sign undesignated. Look at it the bright side, once they do their 4 years ,they will have plenty of experience in maritime maintenance but they will be ALIVE! That is job security. Beats a job at security in grave yard shift at some company nobody even heard of.

I don’t think Ranger Regiment as a whole has a water capability. I think their focus, money, and training is on Raids/ Direct Action/ Shooting. I think RRC might though but that’s only a fraction of Regiment.

This has got be the most ignorant statement I have ever read in my life.

@@Charles-nc4zj and 11 morons gave him like. LOL.

You referring to SF dive teams? Because they’re not Rangers. Rangers are bad ass, but seals are much more capable on a lot of things, and operate in smaller groups.

Along with providing search and rescue capabilities.

Definitely!

None

No Marine corps

each branch is best at what they do

@@qomz8791 No only Marine corps 😂

@@germanic_lenkrad5282 But all Marines seem to hate their lives.

@@nolanfrazier3482 marine corps is easily the worst they do all hate their lives lmaooo