ArriveCAN: Reporters who exposed COVID-19 app discuss controversy

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6 ай бұрын

La Presse’s Joël-Denis Bellavance, Globe and Mail’s Bill Curry on their reporting that exposed controversies related to the ArriveCAN app.
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@jumbome7420 6 ай бұрын

Just another example of what a crooked and incompetent leader looks like.

@grandmufftwerkin9037 6 ай бұрын

Maybe he can try going back to being a teacher again. 😉

@dandreger3642 6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂@@grandmufftwerkin9037

@derek8564 6 ай бұрын

well no...because last time....well...ya know :D@@grandmufftwerkin9037

@JimRook 6 ай бұрын

8 years if an incompetent moron running a country - wow. It’s tiring.

@barbcroteau6941 6 ай бұрын

A leader is not corrupt on his own….he is supported by many enablers.

@anandkumar61 6 ай бұрын

this is simply corruption

@magdarosson6579 6 ай бұрын

wake up Brave Canada

@icantwiththis 6 ай бұрын

But really on a massive scale !

@tylerarnold943 6 ай бұрын

Straight up theft

@fandal 6 ай бұрын

Agreed but at the department level

@fifermcgee5971 3 ай бұрын

This is totally sickening and must stop.

@christinelatham2956 6 ай бұрын

Liberal government gives new meaning to the word crooks.

@TimDyck 5 ай бұрын

They are the pros. No matter how hard they try Conservatives and NDP cannot hold a candle to the liberals when it comes to corruption.

@johnhess9443 6 ай бұрын

Hold Trudeau accountable for once.

@joycemclean9661 6 ай бұрын

Trudeau has responsibility for this scandal. (And all the other scandals). He’s in charge.

@mmblue3986 6 ай бұрын

He is friends with them.

@garyhaggquist740 6 ай бұрын

How can that be when the reporters who exposed the app have stated that there is no political connection!

@hovojefe 6 ай бұрын

@garyhaggquist740 hey guys I found the bot!

@philipbloedow8296 6 ай бұрын

poilievre said BUREAUCRATS actually are responsible

@mmblue3986 6 ай бұрын

@@garyhaggquist740 😂😂😂 You’re funny..sir.

@grandmufftwerkin9037 6 ай бұрын

Justin is spreading more manure than the average farmer.

@daren9721 6 ай бұрын

👍🏼

@garyhaggquist740 6 ай бұрын

Explain what manure is being spread. As the reporter noted - there is zero evidence for any political connection.

@grandmufftwerkin9037 6 ай бұрын

@@garyhaggquist740 Are you for real? Justin and his government ministers have told more falsehoods than Pinocchio.

@dirka_dirka_mohammedalijihad 6 ай бұрын

@@garyhaggquist740oh stop. "No evidence" 😂😂 do you even have eyes or ears?

@maritimer3027 6 ай бұрын

@@garyhaggquist740The reporter also noted that ministers are responsible for their departments and Trudeau is the Prime Minister responsible for ALL Departments!

@bobbi-leeeccleston1841 6 ай бұрын

It’s called money laundering.

@user-bc8vr2gy8v 6 ай бұрын

It's not money laundering, it's money STEALING

@PXanth 6 ай бұрын

rcmp asleep at the wheel

@fifermcgee5971 3 ай бұрын

Smells like theft to me.

@antiprogpragmatist859 6 ай бұрын

Just remember Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver..you voted for this bullsh!t

@donnarocha4043 6 ай бұрын

Exactly

@mephisto279 6 ай бұрын

Funny how our news stations suddenly found the real stories when their asses are on the line.

@kathyde1906 6 ай бұрын

Exactly!!!

@icantwiththis 6 ай бұрын

But still with the spin spin spin

@schrempskynate8944 6 ай бұрын

Haha, you noticed too, eh?

@kamaljitwadhawan191 6 ай бұрын

It is Happening under the current finance Minister.She is fully Responsible.

@madhukarmurthi9064 6 ай бұрын

and who does she report to?

@Rmstrjim 6 ай бұрын

Gee, wonder why she didn't show up to QP today. She must have drawn the long straw and JT got stuck with the stub.

@kathyde1906 6 ай бұрын

And who choose her to be a finance minister?

@marlainerose3340 6 ай бұрын

@@kathyde1906J.T. appointed her lol after the last one (who at least had financial training) had to quit due to another scandal😅!

@TH-tl6sy 6 ай бұрын

Finance minister is in charge of Revenues. Not expenditures. Want Trudeau gone as much as anyone but might as well blame Freeland for Healthcare or Education. Because her department prepares the budget. And developed the Tax and Tariff policies to fund Healthcare and Education.

@deadwood2757 6 ай бұрын

Will there be compensation for the 10,000 minimum Canadians wrongly forced to quarantine?

@johnvandyk8904 6 ай бұрын

Class action lawsuit?

@signintoconfirm6168 6 ай бұрын

Medical fascism. It is here to stay. There is trillions of dollars behind it, and no way to stop it.

@richardlane9582 6 ай бұрын

We will raise their carbon tax.

@kurtisdiston4851 6 ай бұрын

they don't think it was 'wrong'... legal judgements be damned

@Stonesour1 6 ай бұрын

Not until the world wakes up to their schemes and control, But most of the public are oblivious and too fn dumb or distracted to cell phones to notice whats really going on!

@kent5400 6 ай бұрын

A 40% increase in public servants + a similar increase in contract work and these are the results we get. Perhaps we need some competent leadership and management?

@grandmufftwerkin9037 6 ай бұрын

Justin is invoking the Sgt Schultz defence: I know nothing! I see nothing!

@davidlynch9049 5 ай бұрын

Lol. Brilliant for the oldsters.😎

@guestuser7814 6 ай бұрын

I’m interested to see how they will try to cover this one up for Trudeau.

@NickRanger 6 ай бұрын

He will ummm uhhh well you know theres pengiuns and they sorta are birds. Next question?

@demuredeb 6 ай бұрын

Don't care for the continually blocking information, within committee but it is finally out. Now get Canadians their money back. Jail, fire and stop pension until it is accountable.

@everydayisahollyday 6 ай бұрын

Agree ! STOP PENSIONS AND PAY DURING SUSPENSIONS!!

@MC-zk7ll 6 ай бұрын

If this was a conservative scandal the mood would be so much different

@0x0x00 6 ай бұрын

The fact is a Lliberal scandal.

@richardlane9582 6 ай бұрын

The Conservatives don't do this. The last time this was done under a non-Liberal government...it was Mulroney. "Progressive Conservatives"

@mikeboston421 6 ай бұрын

same Mulroney who says trudeau is a great leader.......@@richardlane9582

@dixonyaarmouf4630 6 ай бұрын

Lib broken psychology award 🥇 😂

@ewal36 6 ай бұрын

Remember the $16 orange juice scandal?

@williamrmitchell1960 6 ай бұрын

Get. him. out.

@user-be7zh6pe1j 6 ай бұрын

I guarantee if you follow the cookie crumbs you’ll find JT is connected somehow to these guys

@patriciawarner6602 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely, goes without saying!! Hahaha

@daren9721 6 ай бұрын

100%

@garyhaggquist740 6 ай бұрын

As the reporter noted - there is zero evidence of a political connection. I guarantee that Conservative guarantees are worthless.

@saundratoye3483 6 ай бұрын

Probably some distance relative

@catherinewilson1079 6 ай бұрын

Me too!

@MikeSmith-vo2yt 6 ай бұрын

Remember Mike Duffys 85000$. That was treated like the end of the world. This is mulligan number what? 20?

@grandmufftwerkin9037 6 ай бұрын

Just another day in the basic Trutatorship.

@kerrigrandmaison7844 6 ай бұрын

wtf? Where’s the funds?????

@casualcausalityy 6 ай бұрын

In the bank accounts of the Trudeau crime family, and friends of family.

@esparda07 6 ай бұрын

And it took this much time and effort to figure this out. Imagine the amount of money that goes unwatched and into unknown pockets.

@PXanth 6 ай бұрын

CLEPTOCRACY WITH A PROMISE OF BETTERMENT F U C K T U R D - E U

@robertbouchard6719 6 ай бұрын

Do you notice that when Trudeau is talking you don't see anyone smiling and nodding anymore unless Freeland is there.....

@Rmstrjim 6 ай бұрын

The liberals sure looked glum today in QP, JT got almost zero applause from his trained seals.

@donnarocha4043 6 ай бұрын

@Rmstrjim They know their done, Canadians are devastated PM needs to resign now.

@robertbouchard6719 6 ай бұрын

@@donnarocha4043 just wait until Jagmeet Singh dissolves the partnership between Liberals and NDP.....I would assume an election would be called

@dy6682 6 ай бұрын

GC strategies need full exposure and jail time if crooked.

@AirmanRugby6 6 ай бұрын

So a company that NEVER even competed for a government contract prior to 2015 came out of nowhere and has amassed over 140 contracts worth over $250 Million. How about asking who their competitor is? Deloitte, who has over 14,000 employees in Canada.

@canadiansfor2A 6 ай бұрын

Liberal insiders

@Jonathan11225 6 ай бұрын

140 contracts

@tonysopranosduck416 6 ай бұрын

Exactly! Deloitte was on stand by notice “for some undisclosed reason” and these 2 basement chumps were the next best thing? And they were hired FIVE DAYS after Trudeau took office!

@fifermcgee5971 3 ай бұрын

There is much more to this story than what we are being told. These two guys obviously had a insider working on their behalf. No bids, just given the contract, stinks to high heavens.

@jzou1030 6 ай бұрын

258m contracts granted to this firm with 4 IT guys based on a cottage’s basement since 2015, Canada is broken.

@schrempskynate8944 6 ай бұрын

Chalet NOT cabin! 😂

@user-lh5ug7dy7k 6 ай бұрын

How much has Trudeau personally received from GC strategies ??? Follow the money .

@peetnienaber8594 6 ай бұрын

why did it take 3 or 4 years for anything to be done about this.

@clintg1000 6 ай бұрын

Never let a crisis go to waste. Jt should be in prison.

@lukecoombs5082 6 ай бұрын

The public service is a rotating carousel of generalists.

@Meeksballs 6 ай бұрын

Who deleted the emails and shredded the documents because they didn't delete and shred themselves and know it wasn't Justin in the basement doing it!

@Rmstrjim 6 ай бұрын

Minh Doan was VP of IT for CBSA when the 1700 emails were actually corrupted, not just deleted.

@user-fb5ef3jh3r 6 ай бұрын

🤔

@paulagloberson4758 6 ай бұрын

Took lessons from HRC. Bleach bit phones?

@AK-nx9lg 6 ай бұрын

So refreshing to see old school professional journalists ❤

@schrempskynate8944 6 ай бұрын

They're starting to smarten up, as they know Pierre is going to defund them.

@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez 6 ай бұрын

How will Vassey defend the LPC today?

@tamrahawkes3170 6 ай бұрын

Right lol

@tracyallen7020 6 ай бұрын

Her giggles and and doe eyes to male guests makes me cringe.particularly when discussing such aggregious corruption and waste of taxpayers money by the government

@icantwiththis 6 ай бұрын

@@tracyallen7020🤮🤮🤮

@user-fb5ef3jh3r 6 ай бұрын

I usually turn her off, her glee is so over the top

@laid07 6 ай бұрын

There never should have been an app of this nature. That's the true scandal here.

@fifermcgee5971 3 ай бұрын

Just more waste of taxpayers hard earned dollars being given to friends.

@hhiibbaalleerr 6 ай бұрын

Could it be that there are still Journalists of integrity? Bravo, Monsieurs Bellavance and Curry! Incredible work, and an example to your colleagues.

@shenitasalade8623 6 ай бұрын

Bob Fife from the globe and mail is equally excellent, as is Steven Chase and Sam Cooper!

@kathyde1906 6 ай бұрын

@@shenitasalade8623 Sam Cooper from The Bureau? Yes. he is great.

@gsol5674 6 ай бұрын

I can’t wait for Canadians to vote these thieves out of office.

@leonardoromero8 6 ай бұрын

No excuse for an $80,000 app to have turned into $59,000,000 what a sad day in Canadian history to see tax payer funds placed in the pockets of a corrupt company. I hope they end up in jail. With all the needs in Canada this is just unacceptable.

@Rmstrjim 6 ай бұрын

The auditor general found evidence of collusion between Kristian Firth of GC and Cameron MacDonald of CBSA in the preparation of the request for proposal for this contract. The two of them got together and cooked up a HIGHLY unusual 10 years' worth of experience specified for those doing the work. This ensures a maximum dollar figure granted. Kristian doctored the resumes of his subcontractors (he admitted so during committee meeting) and then it seems pocketed the difference. It is highly likely that this is the money which was kicked back to MacDonald.

@lornarichardson5655 6 ай бұрын

How long until the auditor general gets removed? Trudeau needs to RESIGN and so must uneven Steven G.

@fifermcgee5971 3 ай бұрын

This scheme is disgusting, stealing taxpayers money. Lock him up now.

@dimitriosotis8632 6 ай бұрын

Bottom line is the government---so why isn't the government taking responsibility?

@martyd6273 6 ай бұрын

Coverup. I wasn’t doing my job I’m very important you know! I’m just the minister and didn’t know what was going on with a 1 of a kind 60 million dollar project! Bla bla bla!

@stevestensby3669 6 ай бұрын

Suspended with pay ? What a horrible punishment.

@lizwiens671 6 ай бұрын

Follow the breadcrumbs…someone in the Liberal govt has got mysteriously rich since 2015

@leonardoromero8 6 ай бұрын

$80,000 --> $59,000,000😢 there needs to be jail time here.

@user-je6cy3pu3u 6 ай бұрын

If they do get charged how much will it cost the taxpayers for government to appeal

@tomcotter8138 6 ай бұрын

It is written: ‘Sociopaths are incapable of guilt or shame for their actions; they don’t feel remorse as they are only concerned with their own interests.’ Justin 😂

@catherinewilson1079 6 ай бұрын

You need to add « narcissistic » to that.

@ElleRees 6 ай бұрын

Does this scandal surprise ANYONE? JT is a disgrace.

@angeldreams2307 6 ай бұрын

It's not a "controversy"... It's simple corruption!

@shuaibshariff2797 6 ай бұрын

Can I start a company in my basement? Full disclosure - I don't have a clue about IT.

@Rmstrjim 6 ай бұрын

S'okay, neither does Kristian Firth, by his own admission.

@MisterPerson-fk1tx 6 ай бұрын

Not anymore, you need to pretend. We might have a low bar but how dare you just assume we have no standards at all.

@shuaibshariff2797 6 ай бұрын

@@MisterPerson-fk1tx Indeed, there must be a standard there, somewhere if we look hard enough....

@saundratoye3483 6 ай бұрын

We’re running out of money because of Turdeau’s lavish holidays and security detail and jet costs. Plus all the money laundering and Corruption

@nancygosselin5882 6 ай бұрын

The arrivecan execs got bonuses on top of it all!!

@fifermcgee5971 3 ай бұрын

They should be made to pay back the bonuses to the government. Stolen money,

@mask8er 6 ай бұрын

so these two guys at GC Strategy got 13% to 15% commission from $250M just for finding guys who can do IT? somebody needs to go to jail for sure.

@MorganFraser 6 ай бұрын

They actually get 15-30% commission.

@Rmstrjim 6 ай бұрын

And the auditor general found evidence of collusion between Kristian Firth of GC and Cameron MacDonald of CBSA in the preparation of the request for proposal for this contract. The two of them got together and cooked up a HIGHLY unusual 10 years' worth of experience specified for those doing the work. This ensures a maximum dollar figure granted. Kristian doctored the resumes of his subcontractors (he admitted so during committee meeting) and then it seems pocketed the difference. It is highly likely that this is the money which was kicked back to MacDonald.

@randomname9758 6 ай бұрын

These two reporters are the heroes we need

@truenorth1355 6 ай бұрын

The government better get this money back! This is completely unbelievable, they worked from home! Wtf they didn’t do any work at all. 🤬

@Baileygirl2023 6 ай бұрын

Breaking of the rules, more like breaking the law

@icantwiththis 6 ай бұрын

"possibly breaking the rules"

@1996slamster 6 ай бұрын

Wonder who'll be forced to take the fall and resign for him this time?

@user-hr6kg7yh3k 6 ай бұрын

suspended with pay???????????????????????? with pay??????

@COSTASARRIS 6 ай бұрын

LIBS are robbers point final

@homeonnatieland 6 ай бұрын

why are canadians accepting this?

@hingstonia 6 ай бұрын

this form of gaining contracts and sub contracting out isn't just in the IT industry. This is so common across all depts and levels of governments. The guy doing the work is often 4-5 layers down as a sub contractor.

@serenapimentel7372 6 ай бұрын

The TDSB is paying over $11,000 to fix a $400 slide at my kids school. There is top to bottom rot in this country.

@PXanth 6 ай бұрын

blowing the budget at all costs. this is cleptocracy

@fifermcgee5971 3 ай бұрын

@@serenapimentel7372 This is why the country has no money. Incompetency.

@serenapimentel7372 3 ай бұрын

@@fifermcgee5971 I wish it was only incompetence.

@NickRanger 6 ай бұрын

I hope he rots in jail

@jonyork999 6 ай бұрын

suspended with pay. WTF is that. You're in suspicion of impropriety if not embezzlement. Full suspension until you're name is cleared. IF you are cleared, you can get back-pay. If you are found guilty, your fired (and IMO, publicly outed) Suspension with pay IS NOT A PUNISHMENT.

@albertongoogle 6 ай бұрын

3:50 a 15%-30% markup is ok. But why are Canadians paying 1000x more??? For ArriveCan, development plus the app/server hosting would have costed no more than $250k. So something is still missing....

@jptrainor 6 ай бұрын

I would say no. Not for government contractors. In that case it should always be limited to time and expenses.

@littlelittle5 6 ай бұрын

WTF? Wheres the funds? Jts bank account???

@jeffspicolli593 6 ай бұрын

I'm no fan of Kevin O'Leary but he nailed it when he said "Canada is the richest country in the world run by idiots."

@npcimknot958 6 ай бұрын

Hes not wrong.. especally listening to my moms stories about when canada was so rich electrify, water, etc was free.. 😮i still can’t believe that.. and they were getting money put INTO their bank accounts cause canada was so rich

@fandal 6 ай бұрын

While the minister in charge should have been on it, they were also trusting the Fed Gov Department in charge to follow the rules, which is clearly was not happening. I think that they really need to nail these department folks, get fired and no gov perks.

@user-dw7ki4cb6n 6 ай бұрын

Could this be linked to why trudeaus net worth has skyrocketed and his separation to Sophie

@robertoiffel 6 ай бұрын

And how did trudeaus wealth go to over 80 million on a pms salary well mabey someone should ask these questions to gc strategies. Follow the money FOLLOW THE MONEY

@MisterPerson-fk1tx 6 ай бұрын

Plot twist, it's his mom behind the curtain. And as you remember his mom isn't considered family for legal purposes and therefore it's not corruption.

@TH-tl6sy 6 ай бұрын

It's interesting isn't it? Estimated Net worth $1.2 mil in 2014, 2024 Estimated net worth $97 million.

@catherinewilson1079 6 ай бұрын

I have noticed that too! So why doesn’t anyone in charge mention it?

@aminebou 6 ай бұрын

If they gave the app to Apple and Google, it will cost them a fraction of that money.

@Mistmantle88 6 ай бұрын

Nobody would use such an app, they wouldn’t trust Google or Apple to keep their private health data secure.

@aminebou 6 ай бұрын

@@Mistmantle88 You understand the app does not keep data. The data can be kept at the approved Canadian data centers. Anyway, my whole point, they should have given the app development to a medium or big company with a known records of successful project delivery.

@Mistmantle88 6 ай бұрын

@@aminebou yes I understand that, but it isn’t me the government needed to convince. It’s all the conspiracy nut jobs who would go wild.

@ukgmail5329 6 ай бұрын

We need to see every contract that GC strategies has issued and we need to see accountability for the time and hours spent that accrue to the 60 million. I have worked at mobile phone and software app development houses for over 15 years now... and this is the most outrageous cost (for what was a terrible app and experience) I have ever seen! I am struggling to understand how they could actually spend that much money... I imagine they had groups of consultants billing at $500 an hour 24 hours a day for the entire pandemic... We need to see the paper trail... This money alone inserted into the local economy would absolutely alleviate the financial hardships Canadians are facing. This government is so corrupt and incompetent I can't believe Canadians are not rioting in the streets right now

@Jim-jg3xq 6 ай бұрын

WHAT ABOUT THE COMPANY MARKETING RESPIRATORY UNITS. HOW MANY MADE? ETC ..........................

@SJDJR 6 ай бұрын

Are you kidding! Now they have committees upon sub committees to "investigate" if Canadians got value for our tax dollars! Where were all the committees and Government agencies that taxpayers pay hefty for, when GC Strategies put in the tender? Why were they not scrutinized before giving them the contract! Bogus:(

@gizmohunts 6 ай бұрын

why wouldn't you fully audit GC strategies and follow the trail of monies sent to them>>>>. Im no auditor but that seems pretty straightforward.

@mecanuktutorials6476 5 ай бұрын

The fact that they don’t do this leads me to presume the money went into the corrupt politician’s accounts

@jptrainor 6 ай бұрын

Tip of the iceberg.

@mg79277 6 ай бұрын

For all those who don’t believe in competent and experienced journalists…… Polievre or you and I would have never have known about this. Bravo journalistes from la presse. Incredible work.

@andrewdancsak7223 6 ай бұрын

The government will now be forced to spend 10s of millions of dollars in order to track the cost of IT projects. The fact is if you are IT professional of any repute, you would never work directly for the govt. You make way more money as a contractor.

@galaxykinggamer5082 6 ай бұрын

Is it just me or dose Trudeau and the French guy (sorry forgot his name) look like they are green screened into the house?

@davidkraus6628 6 ай бұрын

I worked for a large corporation. It was observed as a result of an audit that there had been a shift from employees doing the work to those same employees awarding the work to contractors. Resulting in a fast and loose approval process leading to poor outcomes and out of control cost. An audit is in order.

@stevejh69 6 ай бұрын

Trudeau, to "follow up" You let this happen! You supported this to happen! You probably even benefitted from it!

@huey166 6 ай бұрын

Suspension with pay how draconian. 😂😂😂

@Ihatetrudeau 6 ай бұрын

How can anybody with a sound mind still support the Liberals

@tamrahawkes3170 6 ай бұрын

The question we all wonder……..

@serenapimentel7372 6 ай бұрын

Soccer moms who don't follow politics and retirees who aren't effected by all this mismanagement.

@Ihatetrudeau 6 ай бұрын

@@serenapimentel7372 yea you got that right

@catherinewilson1079 6 ай бұрын

@@serenapimentel7372I’m a retiree and watching this colossal eff up very closely. Don’t generalize please!

@CHodgy 6 ай бұрын

Justin is covering for Freeland. (Where is she anyways...?) 🤔

@bradwagner-dw7yv 6 ай бұрын

Did I hear him say “suspended with pay” ?

@icantwiththis 6 ай бұрын

Nobody misses any pay

@bradwagner-dw7yv 6 ай бұрын

@@icantwiththis I think in this case, they are.

@catherinewilson1079 6 ай бұрын

Yeah. Shouldn’t that be called a vacation??? Suspend his pay cheque😡

@bradwagner-dw7yv 6 ай бұрын

They’ve been suspended without pay.

@timberwolf7175 6 ай бұрын

Don't forget they also got to write the requirements for some of the contracts. They where able to make the requirements so hard that only they could even fill them, and even after that they used bait and switch tactics. There is definitely corruption!

@slydady2 6 ай бұрын

I want my money back the app did not work, normally you don’t get payed if you don’t deliver the product

@user-wm8yq7xh8i 6 ай бұрын

Vassey you are starting to sound like an unbiased true journalist keep it up please

@pamelinc 6 ай бұрын

The other question you should ask is... Is GC Strategies funneling money to liberal insiders to their off shore accounts ?

@MrTaggy2 6 ай бұрын

Canada is heading in the wrong direction. The once beautiful country has been ruined

@tiffanycrystalclear 6 ай бұрын

Out JT pls get lost 😡

@user-je6cy3pu3u 6 ай бұрын

How hasn’t this come to light earlier wondering what this is diverting our attention from???

@goldminer83 6 ай бұрын

FJT

@Makeitblue127 6 ай бұрын

“Follow up”… wow!!

@tamrahawkes3170 6 ай бұрын

Where will it end…….Jail we hope!

@momzilla9491 6 ай бұрын

What a laugh! French Reporter overrides the Auditor General saying, "Canadians DID NOT get value for the Money" with 'I don't think so'. I heard that the two Whistle Blowers were suspended WITHOUT Pay, not WITH Pay. That action has caused hours of Questions.