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ARRMA Limitless Speed Twins - 1100kv vs 1650kv

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Күн бұрын

Jack and Callum go head to head with their Limitless Speed Twins - will we have a new speed king in HardcoreRC
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@Mr.Wednesday.
@Mr.Wednesday. Жыл бұрын
Your son is actually funny, I’ve noticed over a few vids he’s actually low key hilarious
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC Жыл бұрын
LOL thanks, he deffo like to joke about
@pipnmaz
@pipnmaz 3 жыл бұрын
Maximum marks for Callum's twisting back flip and landing back on the wheels even though he didn't win overall speed that was some run.
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thank - although i think it was all luck, very little control on these cars when they take off - looked Awesome though
@tjanderson0709
@tjanderson0709 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome run guys 💯💯💯 let's see if little brother can get the new PB for Hardcore Rc next time
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - Callum is chomping at the bit to go faster now, and Jack just wants to get further ahead 😂😂
@Addicted_2RC
@Addicted_2RC 3 жыл бұрын
112 mph new HardcoreRc PB!! Nice job Jack let’s see how long you hold the 👑 👍👍👍👍 The backflip with a full twist!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣what a save!!! 👍👍👍👍
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
I know Callum want to beat Jack so bad, that flip with the twist was like 😲😲😲
@Addicted_2RC
@Addicted_2RC 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC I haves feeling the competition between Jack and Callum is gonna be like a see saw back and forth!!! Should be some great footage along the way!! 👊👊👍👍 I’ve yet to have a flip over land on camera during a speed run but I’ve crashed my Infraction pretty good during them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@Addicted_2RC Oh im sure it is, each of them always wants to be the fastest and highest, good competition is healthy. Its always the way, get the crashes on camera but when you get the high speed flips and lands its always off camera
@reallythough4591
@reallythough4591 Жыл бұрын
Way to support the boys! Good on you mate
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC Жыл бұрын
Thanks, cant beat father and son time
@reallythough4591
@reallythough4591 Жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC no, you can't, and it goes by so fast. Mine is now 28, and I've got grands. Enjoy it, looks like a lot of memories being made
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC Жыл бұрын
@@reallythough4591 Thanks, you are not wrong it does go by far far to fast, memories are the key to enjoying and remembering though 👍👍
@jondilly1974
@jondilly1974 3 жыл бұрын
That bump in the tarmac is gonna keep sending your cars in the air. You need to avoid that split.
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe - we know, makes good footage though 😂 luckily no major damages, just a badly worn body 😥, trying to find a new location as that crack sucks
@mrclairesrcs3290
@mrclairesrcs3290 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the hardcore banter 👍 great video guys
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, boys will be boys 😂😂
@chrishewlett7914
@chrishewlett7914 3 жыл бұрын
Go on there lads
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@TheflyingkiwiRC
@TheflyingkiwiRC 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Jack! Love the Hardcore Hoodie.
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - have to say they do look good 👍
@dexterbeattie7884
@dexterbeattie7884 3 жыл бұрын
Hardcore Competition 🤘
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Oh you know its going to be happening 😂
@robertlongley9153
@robertlongley9153 3 жыл бұрын
112 that’s great. Well done Jack
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - Callum is now chomping at the bit to go faster :)
@robertlongley9153
@robertlongley9153 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC these will be epic videos brothers battle royal. Lol. But seriously great young men. You have there Dave.
@norcalrc
@norcalrc 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new sultan of speed @ hardcore rc
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - will be interesting to see who goes faster next time
@Good.News777
@Good.News777 3 жыл бұрын
That HOW DID YOU DO THAT!!! was like you gonna pay it yourself🤣🤣
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
I looked up as i heard it leave the ground and just saw it flipping and twisting and then landing on its wheels - per cold not rehearsed reaction from me 😂
@rcchallenge8626
@rcchallenge8626 3 жыл бұрын
Another great vid chaps 👌 would love to get into some speed runs but after seeing the problems you’ve had along the way finding places to run it’s out me off a bit. Also lately been noticing with the speed run vids once your upto speed 1 little bump in the rd sends it flying every time 😬😎😂 with only car parks around it’s something that will have to wait i think but certainly loving your content as always 👏👊
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
That is the biggest issue in the UK - where to run, also the reason we havent gone and spent loads on XLX2 and TP motors etc
@rcsmith5909
@rcsmith5909 3 жыл бұрын
The boys are funny. Love what you guys are doing 🤗
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - they do have some good banter between them
@dskofich
@dskofich 3 жыл бұрын
Good job as always guys!!!
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 👍👍
@isaackshirley4695
@isaackshirley4695 2 жыл бұрын
I'm stoked I just got me a mamba monster x 1650kv combo I never had a limitless im going to invest in one speed test
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice combo - should go like a bat out of hell 👍👍
@isaackshirley4695
@isaackshirley4695 2 жыл бұрын
I'm stoked I got it second hand still new for 50 $ along with an erevo second hand for a 100 $ im stoked
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
@@isaackshirley4695 Wow thats a great deal - very nice find
@Todd_G_FPV
@Todd_G_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
@@isaackshirley4695 that's a steal!
@randomrcwitray5376
@randomrcwitray5376 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos I learned a lot from you for my big rock build
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and glad we could help with your Big Rock build, its a great car for doing speed runs
@REPORODGE
@REPORODGE 2 ай бұрын
I subscribe bud where’s the track bud
@rcplaytime
@rcplaytime 3 жыл бұрын
Christ those are fast😮😮👍
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
There are in deed, but we need to go faster, would like to try to join the 150mph club
@RhinoCards793
@RhinoCards793 3 жыл бұрын
Greta video guys love the hoodies and stickers !
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - yep the hoodies do look good 👍
@dansbeardedrcadventures5605
@dansbeardedrcadventures5605 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Congrats on the 112
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - need to get you to come along speed running
@dansbeardedrcadventures5605
@dansbeardedrcadventures5605 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC would be nice to join you guys on a speed day
@samcourtrc6767
@samcourtrc6767 3 жыл бұрын
Well done lads smashing it brothers
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - now time to build up to greater speeds
@samcourtrc6767
@samcourtrc6767 3 жыл бұрын
HardcoreRC doing the same my self buddy love it like
@TheJermaine1974
@TheJermaine1974 2 жыл бұрын
You gentlemen need to loosen up the front suspension a little, and stiffen up the rear. Also you must take off the front spoilers, and don't brake so fast. Stay at full trigger about 3 seconds longer.
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, just need to find a new location as this place has now gone
@TheJermaine1974
@TheJermaine1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC yes sir!! I enjoy you guys content!! Keep up the good work!!
@TheJermaine1974
@TheJermaine1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC just those few little changes will increase your speed to about 120 or 125. Also try gearing 29 spur/ 43 pinion on the 1100 kv motor, you will get about 145 out of it with that set up, and loosening up the front suspension and tightening up the rear will keep you from going airborne!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Frobi82
@Frobi82 3 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍👍
@CoachD386
@CoachD386 3 жыл бұрын
Nice passes, that lift off though💪🏾💯
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 💯 yep that Gap is a killer
@BIGALSCRAWLERS
@BIGALSCRAWLERS 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new PB guys, Callum needs to try harder lol
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jack was well chuffed, and Callum is chomping at the bit to go faster now 😂
@BIGALSCRAWLERS
@BIGALSCRAWLERS 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC I bet he is, he will get there soon 😉
@wermart8289
@wermart8289 3 жыл бұрын
Can you show or do a video of the green car at 1:06, looks real good
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry i didn't film any of that car, its a stock Felony with a Delta Plastik C8 Corvette body on it, sadly the stock Spektrum ESC went up in smoke though . deltaplastikusa.com/
@Captinfun101
@Captinfun101 3 жыл бұрын
Nice runs but a bit of bad luck on the rough runway. Both cars are looking sick with the custom sticker kits lovely guys.👍and I give a 9.9 for the backflip with a twist half somersault,😜
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - only 9.9 we will have to try harder next time 😂😂
@Captinfun101
@Captinfun101 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC ok perfect 10 because it still ran 😀
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@Captinfun101 Hehe thanks 👍
@antony197415
@antony197415 3 жыл бұрын
Top vid guys love it 👌
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you, glad you enjoyed it 👍
@Mr.Wednesday.
@Mr.Wednesday. Жыл бұрын
Wahappend?? Bit of a Talbot nod there 🤣
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC Жыл бұрын
Do our best not to say the same things, but sometimes its hard as words just come out. Thanks for watching
@mellomisfit
@mellomisfit 3 жыл бұрын
The crack of death takes another one down 😅🤘
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
The crack of death, love it 👍👍
@mellomisfit
@mellomisfit 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC hit that subscribe button! And thanks great video!
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@mellomisfit Thank you very much 👍👍
@camrowdrone6497
@camrowdrone6497 3 жыл бұрын
112 mph , nice speed 👍🏻
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@brentanllewellyn3898
@brentanllewellyn3898 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like that change of tarmac is a flip point. ? Dunno, im in OZ.
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Yep the change from tarmac to concrete is deffo the flip point. Hi from UK to OZ 👍
@brentanllewellyn3898
@brentanllewellyn3898 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC my mates & I have an outdoor velodrome close we run at, got a Limitless goin 125kph. Wltoys about 95kph. 15min runtime on wltoys. Seeing a Limitless drift a cnr at about 100+ kph is beautiful till you "touch" a fence.
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@brentanllewellyn3898 that musty be a nice place to run them, super smooth i imagine. Yep seeing them get airborne is nice, its the landing r what they hit that sucks 😂
@Emily_xx5
@Emily_xx5 3 жыл бұрын
First, loving the hardcore RC stickers! Well done 👌
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - they do look nice 👍👍
@JoneRich80
@JoneRich80 3 жыл бұрын
Where can we buy the merch from? Loving the hoodies
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - Merch store is listed in the description: hardcorerc.creator-spring.com/
@hiruma0116
@hiruma0116 2 жыл бұрын
FLYSKY NB4 Radio.....? Radiolink RC6GS best UP 600M
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
Flysky was out performing the RC6GS as we also have that and found the range to be wanting vs the Noble NB4 with FTr10 twin antenna receiver that has a range up to 3500 meters (air) so around 1500m on ground
@maagneticc6470
@maagneticc6470 3 жыл бұрын
He should remove the black parts on the top of the front splitter it helps alot taking that off
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
It does help with speed, but also then greater chance of lift off 😂😂
@maagneticc6470
@maagneticc6470 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC its suppose to help keep it down also
@GregSupe
@GregSupe 2 жыл бұрын
Working on my Limitless build and wondering hows the range on the Flysky Noble NB4?
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
Range is great, especially if you use the Ftr10 dual antenna receiver, they also have a new transmitter coming out on 10th October, see my recent community post for a leak picture
@GregSupe
@GregSupe 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC no way.... thats awesome. Definitely testing this out. Thanks man
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
@@GregSupe This is how to bind it up: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jp-VlMaYm9C1qqs.html
@GregSupe
@GregSupe 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC thx bro
@SLD-RC
@SLD-RC 3 жыл бұрын
112mph is fast! Shame that bit causes the cars to flip but pretty cool when it lands afterwards!
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - its that silly gap in the road the caused them to flip, on flat they should be good for way way more, but 112mph is still moving 😂
@michaeljohnson254
@michaeljohnson254 Жыл бұрын
what did we learn brits....never do speed runs on windy days rofl
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC Жыл бұрын
that would mean we never get to do speed runs 😂 plus adds to the excitement 🤔
@wcrcrczone8835
@wcrcrczone8835 2 жыл бұрын
What gearing was you running in the 1100kv?
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
32 pinion and 34 spool
@Average_Bruh
@Average_Bruh 2 жыл бұрын
So which was the fastest, 1650kv or 1100kv?
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
Currently the 1100kv is fastest. Need to tune both more to see though, but suspect the 1100kv will still be the fasest. Although for proper speed runs the Hobbywing systems are not the best, Castle and TP Motors would be better
@Average_Bruh
@Average_Bruh 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC thanks
@nicozev8723
@nicozev8723 Жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC hello. Can you please tell me, were you running 6S or 8S in the 1650kv limitless, and what spur and pinion? Thanks mate!
@brandonreid4511
@brandonreid4511 3 жыл бұрын
Hit the same thing that messed up Kev's speed run! Definitely sucks that bump is there!
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Yep we all hit it, on the day it didn't look like it was the gap doing it as it happened away from the gap, but then the slow mo you can clearly see its the gap. Need to find a new runway
@brandonreid4511
@brandonreid4511 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC yeah I tried to pause your video to see exactly where it started to lift as well and that gap just seems to be enough if you hit it perfectly to bounce the wheels and get air under the car 👎 I have only been able to hit 114mph with my Limitless so far because of the area. I'm trying to find the best place to run it within an hour of my house 👍 Hope you guys are able to find the perfect spot!
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonreid4511 Yeah when you slo mo it you can see the wheels lift and its enough for the air to then start getting under the car. 114mph well done 👍👍 what system are you running ? UK roads suck for finding good speed run spots - hope you find somewhere as it is addictive
@brandonreid4511
@brandonreid4511 3 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC Yeah I thought so! And I just finished my first speed build with my Limitless. I'm running a 1/5 TP Motors 5650 1440kv, Mamba Monster ESC, Over geared 36/34 and a RippleKiller 8s cap pack. Trying to slowly build up to the 150mph mark that I believe I can get with it rightnow. I totally understand as here in Ontario, Canada ALOT of our roads are in terrible shape and the best places I've found so far have been in a local smaller city but looking to find a new paved country road to really open it up 👍 Love your guy's channel! Hopefully I get a camera to video my speed runs, love your BigRock too as I got a Typhon 3s I put new 150a Firma ESC and motor setup in to try and see if I can hit 100mph with it! Waiting on a few more needed upgrades. Keep up the awesome content and hard work guy's 💪👍
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonreid4511 Thanks for your kind words brother 👍 with that TP motor it should fly, hope you can hit that big 150mph mark, that would be a huge achievement. When i see these roads the Americans can get to use im so very very very jealous
@whitenas
@whitenas 5 ай бұрын
A friend of kevins? Subscribed
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 5 ай бұрын
Yes i know and meet up with Kev on occasions, although he has moved to Isle of Man so less so, hoping to get out with him next weekend
@whitenas
@whitenas 5 ай бұрын
@@HardcoreRC cool. I hope go goes back and visits the original crew often. 8s Steve is a character
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 5 ай бұрын
@@whitenas Yes he is, great bloke in real life, although he is recovering from a recent car crash
@whitenas
@whitenas 5 ай бұрын
@@HardcoreRC oh shit that sucks. Hope he's well again soon. I noticed he hasn't made a new content in a while
@dzl2716
@dzl2716 2 жыл бұрын
Hi did the 1100kv motor fit straight into the vehicle without any modifications?
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
Just needed a new motor mount to fit as the stock one only goes up to 49mm diameter motors
@dzl2716
@dzl2716 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC what mount did you purchase and do you have a link for the retailer pls 🙏
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
@@dzl2716 retailer would depend where in the world you are. We have two mounts that work the best being PPS: practicalproto.com/collections/frontpage/products/grublock-motor-mount-for-arrma-6s-blx-platform Other one but much harder to set mesh is from MMM: www.mmm-germany.com/shop/arrma/
@dzl2716
@dzl2716 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
@@dzl2716 Either direct from PPS then or you could see when Adrian at Bad Touch Breakers is getting some more in: badtouchbreakers.com/
@TheK20eg
@TheK20eg 2 жыл бұрын
Me 🫣 then 0:03 comes also Me ohhhh shit! Dam my slash vxl does that i hate it when it lifts up like that at highspeeds 🤬 i love the passes though and having fun 💯…. HI KEVIN 🔥🔥
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
Yep it sucks when it lifts, ours was really down to a little lip in the road. How fast have you had your Slash ?
@TheK20eg
@TheK20eg 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC yea dude i hear you and i only did 50mph so far i havent been to a big space to see what it can really do im also looking to get a Typhon 6s also :)
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheK20eg 50mph is a good start, probably need some aero on the front to keep it down
@TheK20eg
@TheK20eg 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardcoreRC yea this thing is so light so it lifts up after 35 mph and its the 2wd one also
@zaideybzakariazaideybzakar3198
@zaideybzakariazaideybzakar3198 Жыл бұрын
Hello,what this country
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC Жыл бұрын
Hi, Dude, this is in the United Kingdom
@bennynguyen6847
@bennynguyen6847 3 жыл бұрын
good job buddy. Because of you guys I am going to my local hobby store and get one. Did Kevin hit that same spot with is speed run. Very sad but a learning experience. I am going to find a speed run area and fill up all the cracks. It could have been worse. It could have been my RC🤣🤣.
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍👍
@biltong3470
@biltong3470 3 жыл бұрын
nice
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@jameswilliams2633
@jameswilliams2633 3 жыл бұрын
Would the plural for Limitless not be Limitlye? 🤪
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
You are probably right 👍👍
@jeffreynieuwenhuis9239
@jeffreynieuwenhuis9239 3 жыл бұрын
When will you lot learn that that crack flips cars?? 😂🤯
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe - think we have all learnt now 😂, it was strange as where the cars were lifting was so far after the lip no one really thought it was the lip, until you see the replays in slow motion
@isaackshirley4695
@isaackshirley4695 3 жыл бұрын
What one is faster
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Very good question, likely the 1100kv one once we get the right gears sorted out
@isaackshirley4695
@isaackshirley4695 3 жыл бұрын
1650 has higher rpms
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaackshirley4695 Yes the 1650kv has higher RPM, but less torque - the 1100kv you can gear higher to go faster
@isaackshirley4695
@isaackshirley4695 3 жыл бұрын
Hi got a question hobbywing 800kv max 5 or hobbywing 1000kv max 5 800kv should be faster right in a exb outcast
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaackshirley4695 for the big Outcast 8s then yes the 800kv will be better than the 1100kv as it has more torque and can be geared to a 1:1 ratio (39/39)
@jonasjoshuaazuara6350
@jonasjoshuaazuara6350 8 ай бұрын
kevin?
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 8 ай бұрын
Kevin who ?
@whitenas
@whitenas 5 ай бұрын
Hahahaha...
@jonasjoshuaazuara6350
@jonasjoshuaazuara6350 5 ай бұрын
talbot @@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 5 ай бұрын
@@jonasjoshuaazuara6350 Talbot ?
@onemansvideos2134
@onemansvideos2134 3 жыл бұрын
You guys should put duct tape on the bump
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe, or just avoid it now we know its doing it
@rooseveltrainesjr1536
@rooseveltrainesjr1536 Жыл бұрын
I would like to bring mine smoke u all mine do 197
@HardcoreRC
@HardcoreRC Жыл бұрын
Wow that is fast, its that 197mph ? that would make you like around the 3rd fasted in the world - crongrats 👍 not a lot of point us building a srious speed car as no where to run it apart from the two ROSSA events each year, but they are over 400 miles from where i live
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