Still in stock at the moment:)

@@DoRC I grabbed a pair lol the center diff for the 4s Arrmas just got in stock and the lights for the big rock are still in back order you never know with Arrma thanks for the tip

@@L2theWcarscoffeelife very true. Yeah the center differentials sold out not long after I made my video on them. I think I might have had something to do with that at least.

Yeah it's pretty uncontrollable. I normally run it on 2S

Maybe they will announce it this weekend during Armageddon. I'm expecting them to announce at least something new.

​@DoRC that's EXACTLY what I was thinking!!

Definitely excited to see what they come up with

Probably will be a senton grom but I still want it especially a brushless version

@donniemarks94 there's a placeholder page on their site for a Mojave Grom so I'm guessing that's what it'll be.

This is my opinion as well. Some of them are kind of close but for me, especially constantly working on these things, I've come to appreciate the groms more and more.

The slop in the grom steering is unbearable.. can’t keep it straight using brushless 2s or 3s

@skyhawk21 weird. Mine are some of the best handling small RCs I've had. Where is the slop on yours?

@@DoRC servo horn for one, and stock pins in steering arms and control links to a arms

Thanks Glad you're enjoying! Plenty more to come :-)

I try to reply to every single comment though unfortunately the comment notification system isn't the best so sometimes I miss follow-up comments. You guys are the reason for this channel so keep them coming :-)

Yeah I love mine. That was actually a basher bumper that I'm making. Stay tuned for my next video to see all about it!

The reflex is definitely a cool truck though not quite as easy to work on as these groms. Still decently engineered

Sounds intriguing

May I ask how that works with the warranty claim? I just bought my wife the typhon grom and the rear diff blew after 3 uses.

Just contact horizon let them know what happened and especially since they are aware of the issue they will almost certainly send you a set of updated ones under warranty.

@@DoRC thank you!!

@DoRC gotta be honest..a little ticked that my local rc shop where I buy everything hasn't informed of that info and has me waiting for them to receive diffs to sell to me. I've called em every other day waiting. 🤬 So thank you again for the info. I'm relatively new in the hobby and trying to navigate this sea of information

Yeah 3S with those big tires is just way too much wheel speed and it is essentially uncontrollable. I run on 2S normally and it's really fun. 3S was just to try and break it

Do I remind you of someone?

@DoRC You may, i think i know you from another channel, but that's yet to be confirmed 🕵🏿!!!

@@tyshiddejuremanbey1313 might be similar but definitely not the same person. This is my only channel

I think that's true. I ran a couple of hard packs on 3S and it held up fine. It really only died when I literally just held the throttle down until something broke.

I haven't killed one yet on any of the three that I've owned. Maybe I've just been lucky.

Yeah I almost never run on concrete.

Straight from Arrma. If you look at the comments in the announcement on their Facebook page someone asked about it and they said that it would be included in all future batches.

I talk about it in the video but these are the stock differentials but with steel spider gears inside and possibly updated material on the output cups because they seem stronger. 311193 are sealed all steel differentials.

Yeah it's pretty uncontrollable on 3S. I normally run this setup on 2S which is a lot of fun but I wanted to make sure I broke something so 3S it was :-)

If you want to go big power I agree.

Kind of. Officially the 2.5 thing doesn't exist for the K4 either. That's actually something I came up with when I announced the updates they were doing to it. This is similar though a bit more subtle. The differential was definitely an issue and it's awesome that they changed it but it's not an official point release or anything like that.

@@DoRC Oh yeah I mean the product page for the Typhon Grom doesn't mention anything different about the differentials.

@GeddyRC Yeah I don't think they're going to announce it on the product page. There's a post on their Facebook page about it though. In the comments they say the V2 differentials will be included in all future production batches

@@DoRC ah, damn that’s rough! I bought two of them a few weeks ago lol. Hey at least going forward folks can save $45. That’s RC for ya, early adopters always pay for the kinks before they get worked out 🤣

@GeddyRC Yeah it is nice to see that they're addressing it though. I imagine if you have any problems they'll send you the updated replacement under warranty.

Maybe. The 16889 pro isn't terrible to work on but it's certainly not as easy as this is. Parts also depend on where you live. Over here it's really easy to get parts and upgrades for this but not quite as easy for something like the HBX. This is also a more precise machine and at least in my experience handles higher power better. Ultimately though it just depends on what you're looking for. The 16889 pro is definitely a cool car.

I used to love my h14bm but those hex screws... it's the only car I absolutely dread working on. Maybe like half of them will come out without stripping. I'm afraid to drive it hard because it's such a pain in the ass to fix.

@noahfox6878 yep. Ease of repair is it's biggest liability

Agreed. Over 60 packs on my 18859A and 0 parts broken. Fully upgraded out of the box. $104 and identical wheelbase to the Granite Grom. I don't have the 16889 though, but I've heard it's by far one of the best

@Krapper515 That's awesome though I will say if you have 60 packs through anything and haven't had any breakages you probably aren't bashing very hard. I've probably owned a couple of hundred different RC cars over the years and I've never had a single one I didn't break something on.

I would recommend contacting horizon. They'll probably send you an updated replacement

Well to be fair on stock power they both hold up reasonably well. The new differentials seem to hold up well to even pretty ridiculous power like you saw since they've been updated. I would imagine if they went with the upgraded differentials they'd have to increase the price which people would be upset about too.

They definitely are putting in the work.

Yeah it'll be interesting to see how long they last. I hope they made a lot of them as I'm sure plenty of people will want the new version.

:)

Unfortunately I'm not sure you will. They're not doing an official new version number for this update so until you actually take it apart I don't think they'll be any way to know. Buying directly from horizon will be your best bet as they'll have the freshest stock but unfortunately that's the best advice I can give

@@DoRC Fair say 🫡

@mark-1rc502 :)

Well hopefully they made a whole bunch of these because the original differentials haven't been available here very much either.

@DoRC I ordered 2 replacements from the US, they arrived in January but the delivery driver dropped them at the wrong address and then they actually got stolen out of the mail box😭 Then I got onto my mate in Canada to order me 2 as Arrma and Horizon only post to US and Canada, he ordered 2 upgraded diffs when in stock a while back, they are on their way to him now then HOPEFULLY they make it to me in Australia and not get stolen🤞

@rccrazy That sounds like quite the frustrating journey.

@DoRC absolutely! Put me way behind and lost lots of money aswell having purchased them all outside of Australia😵

@rccrazy hopefully they arrive this time!

Keep coming back :-)

I ordered these differentials the day they came out and they arrived two days later.

Not sure what you mean.

@@DoRC Sry, but you always said, that Arrma would be bad, but i dont think so 😜

@@user-bw3ob4uz5y can you give me a timestamp for that?

@@DoRC Please, no i dont have time for that, but im sure that you know what i mean

@@user-bw3ob4uz5y sorry I really don't. I really like Arrmas.

This is the updated version of the stock differential which still has the plastic side gears and plastic output cups. 31193 has all steel internal gears as well as steel output cups and is fluid filled.

@DoRC sweet so sounds like I have the better option in my 2 groms

Yeah and it's always good to see that they're listening to the customers and fixing things on the fly.

@@DoRC yes!! Thank you for your feed back too

@damonbridgmon7199 :)