I like how she's evolved from being angry about Oliver lying to actually listening to his side and being understanding about his situation.

I love how Thea has grown, given the circumstances of the the duties and responsibilities of Team Arrow. She has went from fiery resentment from what could be considered as necessary lies, to realizing that with said occupations, there is a healthy and much needed level of secrecy for the safety of the ones you love. Thea gets it. Good Scene.

WHEN YOUR BRATTY SISTER UNDERSTANDS YOUR SITUATION MORE THAN YOUR DAMN FIANCÉ

Thea was way more reasonable than Felicity about this.

Thea has had the greatest character arc on this show and it sucks that Willa wants to leave and Thea is on the back burner at the moment plot-wise

I love that she actually understands him and doesn’t just get mad at him for literally no reason, unlike someone

Oliver: I am your father! William: Cool!

Felicity could of used some of this wisdom

Thea always stands by Oliver and has the most level headed reaction to his secrets being revealed. Best Arrow character!

2:15 the whole theme of season 5

See this is how felicity should have reacted to Oliver having a son

And this is why Thea is queen in our eyes, not just the "best gurl"

He's so heartbroken about keeping this secret from Felicity he's in a hard place

Here is the thing... Oliver isn't keeping HIS own secret.. it's the mom's secret. And as a dad, it's his responsibility.

This is what I love about Thea she’s really come a long way from the delinquent rich girl from season one and a responsible young woman.

Poor Oliver... He wants to tell Felicity, but if he does, he can't *see* William, his *only child*. Plus, we saw how Felicity took it in the timeline where he found out that same day, so why would it ever be a good idea to tell her?

"That was brutal" even Thea seems to Understand where Felicity doesn't which makes me hate her character more like seriously.

I loved scenes like this and miss Thea so much. Thea still best girl for me on Arrow

This is Thea. Thea is understanding about Oliver's situation. Be a Thea and NOT a Felicity.

Imagine, for a moment, the turn of events had it been FELICITY in Thea's chair. If Felicity had been the one to research it, put two and two together and be so damn understanding...

Still dont get how felicity gets the right to be piss off over this, the mother of the child said no to telling anyone, and that's the end of that, no one else gets a say, not even oli, not after how he and his mother acted before he was born

2:58 Andy did a bit of Diggling on the dark web ;)

Their scenes together always melt my heart. And you always remember she is his half sister and that still means nothing to everyone. ❤

Love how much she understands Oliver siblings goal Thea is the best

Still one of my fav scenes

I loved this conversation. There is no correct way to react after revealing a so-called lie or secret. I don't like Felicity's reactions, but I'm staying neautral because there is not a final answer on how to react. But I think it's great that Thea found out. Thea is William's aunt, and they are connected by blood. And that is btw the reason I don't understand why Malcolm revealed the secret to Damien Darhk about William. Malcolm is Thea's father, and Thea is William's aunt. Malcolm should care for Thea's sake, and Thea' care about William because of Oliver.

I agree with Thea & Samantha, but sadly William still got captured by Darhk.

I LOVE THEA, I used to hate her but she’s so mature it just makes me love her sm

This is why Thea is my favourite character

I love how understanding Thea was finding out. I can see why Felicity was mad, but she should have understood that it was his child, and that your children should always come first no matter what or who comes in the way. I love Felicity but she was being selfish.

Thea was always the best character ever. I miss this show so much.

at least thea is an aunt !! lol

family over everything

I miss thea. 😥❤️

gawd i miss Thea

Aqua's words of wisdom lol

I can SO imagine on south park them doing a skit or whatever with a Canadian Green Arrow :)

This shows how much Thea has changed. She was so annoying in season 1.

Thea being a brat to becoming understanding

Anyone ever noticed that theres always a call to action right after a pep talk

Why is the actress who plays Thea so cute

Brutal is right! This was a disservice for women who are single mothers by making her bitter and vindictive. It was a shame that she made Oliver keep him a secret from his family. It must’ve been a relief to share with Thea and would’ve been even better if he could’ve shared with Felicity. This is going to blow up in his face.

I think the worst part about Felicity finding out is that it happened through Damien Darkh, and because of the situation with William being kidnapped, she and Oliver didn't have time to talk things out when it was revealed to her.

oliver: william, I am your father (in darth vadors voice)

damn i miss arrow

Oliver teary eyed,from the strong wordings from baby sis Thea.Moving.

Thea in this thumbnail looks beautiful…just an observation

when thea is the most understanding character felicity gets outraged twice both involving william iris by identity and noras betrayal and barry sends her back thea find out oliver is the hood even though he killed ~ thank you she's the most understanding character

To be fair. I'm on Samantha's side in this argument. The fewer people know about William the better for everyone, especially William. And anyone having a go at Oliver for it needs to wake up.

Thea looks good

I remember that I stop watching this show a few years ago and this is the episode that I stopped. Idk why. Now I have watched 7 seasons of the show and they are stopping it to season 8? Whyy..

Dig was doing digging online

Couldn't they have just had Oliver find out about William and then, I don't know, not made it yet another hurdle for 'Olicity' to tackle? Couldn't it just have been an interesting addition to the plot that allowed us to see how Oliver had to grow and change to become a father? The show could have explored the difficulties with opening up his heart to love his child when he's already lost so much of his family. This was a great plot point on its own. It didn't need to become melodrama.

He is in a bad place and he hates him self for keeping the secrect from felicity but he has no choice and it's the best thing for William to keep him safe 😢😢😢 heartbreaking as it is #poor oliver# # felicitys feelings# #poor olicity#

I love Thea

darhk takes william and tells oliver so now oliver has to tell felicity and i'm scared bc she wasn't wearing her engagement ring in the limo scene

and thus all reason to like or sympathise with Felicity is killed for me.

You know, people in this fandom keep shitting on season 4 everywhere I go. But whenever I watch a random scene on KZfaq, it doesn't seem so bad.

Wow !!!!

This shows how Thea has grown and evolved she went from getting mad at her brother for lying to listening and trying to understand where he coming from … now that is character development

I didnt think that Thea would agree to not telling people who matter to Oliver about his son. Wasn't Thea the one to be mad at Moria and Oliver about keeping a secret about her father. I get that they want a fall out for olicity but using Thea hmm. I also think Thea is his kryptonite anything involving Thea and Oliver ends up bad like Oliver got drugged with vertigo because of Thea, Oliver losing the company because he worry about Thea. Malcolm figure that out and use Thea for his bidding and resulting in Oliver getting stab.. now sensing a pattern fall out with Felicity and who knows what else smh

This one of my favorite shows after family guy

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What's sad his mother withheld his child from him. He didn't know he even had a child until this season . Barry only person he tells and he wanted to keep it that way to ptotect his son. However for some reason Malcom knew but Barry and Malcom don't really interact and I doubt Barry would ever tell anyone. Then Chase even knows which never made since to me.

damn Oliver a secret well I would keep that secret too

The thing is he could have easily told Felicity and they could've kept THAT secret together, but instead he's going to keep that secret with Thea, of all people. Oliver's baby-mama and having a kid is the BIGGEST plot hole ever which is saying something considering the entire Arrow show is riddled with plot holes.

I must admit that Thea have change alot over the seasons. The Thea in the first two season got on my last nerve

It's not a lie? it's JUST a promise that he is keeping to the mother of his child? WTF totally nonsense. I don't think this shows any kind of evolution on thea except for the fact that now she is more understandable to Oliver. But what the hell making a promise to his child's mother make it right to lie to his fiance. He even says that himself, it's not right. Period. And the :"keeping William as a secret is keeping him safe" doesn't even makes sense, what bad could cause if Felicity knew about his son?! she has proven that she know how to keep a fucking secret, she would've understand.

If my aunt was Thea it would be so cool

Okay. What I don't understand is that samantha is calling a playboy and that he needs to hide and keep his son a secret from everyone that loves him. She doesn't know him, he hasn't been a playboy since the day got on the island. He was never the same doesn't she watch the news at all.

Thea is a great sister and an understanding person.

*I miss Thea...*

2:32 technically a half-aunt. A half-uncle is the half-sibling of a parent

wait im confused i thought felicity found out a long time ago during the vandal savage crossover

dats some baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad advise

Thea will never stop being one of the best people in all of the dc universe

Of course she not the one marrying him with a secret son, she’s his sister.

Watching this scene makes em love Thea wayyyy more.

Ya know honestly life right here listen to one woman to get yelled at by another lol do right by one you oliver queen have failed this relationship plus side felicity is in a wheel chair and wont kick you off a rooftop

1:55 yes is lie 😏

I was with Oliver, he did tell Felicity straight away the first time and she broke up with him and everyone died. Added with the fact that Samantha asked him to keep it a secret with the condition of if he does he can see his kid. It makes sense he didn't.

I love Oliver but he told everyone about William besides Felicity , she too had a right to know the truth 🥺

Aunt Thea rsrs algum brasileiro aqui?

Thea was understanding TV fiennece or wives never understand how they write the script and character

Feclity thought that Oliver should have told her about his son. No he did not have to to tell her any thing because it was not Oliver's choice not to tell anybody he was told to by that kids mom I don't know why feclity can't understand that

my name is Oliver

I understand that Felicity was angry and hurt because he broke her trust (it's been kind of a rocky relationship to begin with) but breaking of the engagement instead of at least attempting to work through it is just too ridiculous. However Samantha is such a bi**h for putting him in that position to begin with when he's making an effort to get to know his own child....the child should absolutely be protected from his fathers life (not that she knew that at the time) but that doesn't mean that they don't deserve to get to know each other. Every child deserved to know their parents (unless they are truly horrible people, then let them make that decision when they've grown up) but Oliver was just a reckless playboy when she knew him that doesn't really qualify as a horrible person, just as a spoilt brat

The only understanding woman is Thea in this whole team/family. Samantha shouldn’t have blackmailed Oliver and Felicity should’ve been more understanding about the whole situation.

i liked Thea's character development after season 3...too bad writers couldn't figure out what to do with her anymore. Also I respect Willa's decision to leave the show, there is no point of staying if you are not bringing anything on the table

I just wish felicity were as clever and wisdom as thea.. Not to burst out like an asshole

Thea is such a cutie sis material

When are the Felicity haters going get it. Secrets are what have destroyed Oliver’s life. His fathers secrets, his mother’s secrets, his cheating with Sara got him on the boat and destroy his relationship with Laurel. His secrets with working with Malcolm and Ra’s. Many many more. Secrets are what destroy Oliver and she is trying to stop him from repeating these mistakes. Don’t keep secrets from the people you love.

Please, please, please, in my opinion there is NO justifications for this stupid contrived story line. The only point of this story line is to build conflict between Oliver and Felicity to provide a reason for them to break up. Most of this story line can be debunked by applying basic knowledge from the characters of the show. Well until the writers start writing them OOC to try and give some sort of grounding to this horrible piece of crap story line. 1. Why blame Moira and not Samantha. She offered Samantha $2M not $1M (the show needs to watch episode 2x20 "Seeing Red" again) to lie to Oliver. Samantha DID NOT have to accept or agree to those terms but she did. 2. How does someone who lied to Oliver for 9 years and then lie to his face when he figures it out on his own get to DEMAND that he tell NO ONE or he can't see his child? Come on she's at fault not Oliver. But they can't use the word LAWYER in any of this or Marc's baby mama story line falls apart. 3. Read a comment were Felicity gets bubbly and might let it slip. Felicity has KEPT Oliver's secret for 4 years so no she doesn't get bubbly and spill secrets. How in the hell is someone going to over hear Oliver tell her if they are in a private area. I don't think he's going to announce it in a public area it would defeat the purpose of "secrecy". 4. Thea had a bonding moment with her brother but ALL of her advice was bogus. Thea is the same person who hated Moira and Oliver LYING to her so much that she let the family assets get taken away. She hated Oliver and Roy lying to her so much that she left with her sociopath dad. She is hardly the person they should have used to tell Oliver to continue to "LIE" and yes IT IS A LIE not "KEEPING A PROMISE"! Whenever you are looking at the woman you intend to marry and lying right to her face as you slip off to see your child in another city because you said you would tell "no one" including said fiance than yes you are a lying liar who lies..period!! 5. How is Felicity knowing MORE dangerous than Malcolm? Yes Malcolm the sociopath that Oliver just took the LoA from and cut off his hand, Malcolm who loudly and angrily told Oliver he would pay, yet in Oliver's CONCERN to keep William SAFE he TELLS NO ONE. So is his ridiculous "promise" STILL more important NOW than "telling" the people who could actually help keep William safe, hmmm? I would say NO seeing how the kid is kidnapped. Yes kidnapped from the knowledge Damien learned from Malcolm - you know that person who knew instead of Felicity and who told Oliver he had a debt to pay. The same person who told Oliver death was too easy a relief because he wants to see him suffer. Yeah ok by all means Oliver keep that "promise" even while doing so you are the one putting your child in danger! This story line just keeps getting dumber and dumber!! 6. When Thea says something like the life he lives as the "Green Arrow" put those around him who he loves in danger. Samantha DOESN'T KNOW he is the Green Arrow. The people who know he is the GREEN ARROW are the PEOPLE Samantha tells him CAN NOT tell are the same ones they BOTH will be RELYING ON to HELP them get the kid back. Oh the stupidity of this story line. It lacks ALL logic!! 7. Oliver is in a tough spot ONLY because the writers NEEDED and WANTED him in a tough spot for the kid drama. But when it came to the Nyssa and Malcolm situation which also put him in a tough spot the writers GAVE him a 3rd OPTION. Even had Oliver proclaim "he wouldn't stop looking for a 3rd option". But when it comes to keeping a "promise" or lying to his fiance (soon-to-be-wife) the choices are limited. They RESTRICTED his OPTIONS for the Samantha/William/Felicity situation because they DIDN'T want him to HAVE or USE any OPTION other than accepting what Samantha wanted. Why because they want the FALL-OUT, they NEEDED the FALL-OUT to get to their end result of breaking up Oliver and Felicity!. Also it convenient of the writers to let the audience know the episode before they have the kid taken how bad Oliver feels. That's crap they are once again trying to manipulate the audience while they attempt to justify this stupid story line that most people are rejecting. They use Thea as their mouthpiece and a teary eyed Oliver. So I'm guessing it took him what 8 whole episodes to realize he felt some guilt. Whatever I'm just glad when this contrived story line made up for BAD PLOT ONLY is over.

I love how people are attacking Felicity and saying Thea should have granted her wisdom, yet seem to forget that him keeping this secret didn't keep William safe at all. Malcolm and Damien still found out about the kid so basically, Oliver fucked up his marriage for nothing. Lies dont protect anyone.

Thea was more mature than Felicity

Thea is way more understanding than anyone else.

I wish Felicity had this monologue instead of Thea. Olicity could have gone so much better.

One of many things thay made the show shit. Oliver becoming a family man, having a son, Felicity. All made it go to shit after season 2.

Am i the only one who thinks that laurel should be the one to be mad? I mean he got this girl preg when he was still dating her and felicity being mad at him for not telling her about william didn't really make sense it was just some more drama for the writers to add

Bruce or Oliver who the biggest playboy aka PLAYA aka P.I.M.P.?