But you have to gauge how hard each league is. Do you think 03/04 EPL is weaker than 23/24 Bundesliga?? Do you remember how stacked MU were, how good Liverpool and Chelsea were in 03/04?? Imo, Arsenal going undefeated in that gauntlet of a league, is more impressive than Leverkusen barely tying Stuttgart this year.

@@chriskey7440bayern and dortmund in the champions league semi -/ final. Stuttgart same points like Bayern. Imo bundesliga better than PL nowadays and back then.

@@DerMarcoee I knew you'd say that, but are those teams better than the 03/04 EPL top teams? Dortmund just got smoked by Mainz, and Mainz are in a relegation battle. Do you really think Stuttgart and Bayern could handle MU back then?? Giggs, R7, Rooney, Ferdinand, etc? Then that's when Chelsea got stacked, then add in Liverpool... What I'm saying is, the Bundesliga has always been a great league, but in those early 2000 days, the EPL was a gauntlet haha. I do not think Leverkusen would've stayed undefeated had they played, 03/04 Chelsea, MU, Newcastle, and Liverpool.

@@DerMarcoee I forgot to add RvN at MU too.

@@DerMarcoee you really think Wirtz could've lasted in 03/04 England haha? You think Tah could've lasted, he barely lasted against Qarabag.

Epl play 4 matches more. Fyi

⁠​⁠@@KLHK1981and in 4 less matches, leverkusen have more wins than arsenal in that invincible season? (27 vs 26). Fyi

that and Arsenals invincibles lost in the league cup, fa cup and champions league 🤦‍♂

@@logirex well they won only the premier league so ofcourse they lost in the cups 😆

@@logirex which means they were loser elsewhere besides PL?

Robert Pires dive against Portsmouth

Finally a comment with sense

Arsenal better? I bet my whole monthly paycheck that leverkusen can beat Arsenal. Arsenal couldn't handle Bayern, but Leverkusen destroyed Bayern.

@@Tresi-lm7of again you clown, no one is talking about this seasons arsenal 🤡

@@Tresi-lm7of again you 1diot, no one is talking about this seasons arsenal 🤡

Huh? That's a bold claim as a bayern munich fan. Got any evidence, cause u basically just indirectly insulted my team by saying europa league teams should've are beat bayer leverkusen, as well as insulting Dortmund, because we lost to leverkusen in the league and u just implied that Europa teams should've beat leverkusen making bayern by default a worse team than europa league teams. Let tell u this straight, none of the teams in your league are beating leverkusen If bayern a top 4 team in Europe couldn't do u guys have no shot, Dortmund couldn't do it and they're in the UCL finals. U got some serious nerve implying that leverkusen is cheating cause their better than 98% of teams in your league if not 100%, only 2 teams have a chance of beating them and even then it's not a garuntee, Real madrid and Manchester City thats it.

Next season leverkusen will fumble like mad 😂😂😂. Once all their stars left😂😂😂

@@KLHK1981😂there stars will stay like there manager xabi Alonso Florian wirtz already confirmed he will stay probably one player will go maybe?(frimpong ) that’s it 😂😂

Europa League is weak compared to Champions League where Arsenal Invincibles played against teams like Prime, Milan Prime, Real Madrid, Prime, Juventus etc

@@Kone347 good point

you forgot one played ucl and the other europa

@@ikhlashasib8256 they also lost in the cup, leverkusen didn't

@@Fschalke1 who cares? Btw fa cup >>>> pokal, that shouldn't even be a conversation lol

Arsenals Team was better individually...but AS a Team Leverkusen IS better...Most of the Players are at the beginning of great carreers...frimpong Wirtz tapsoba koussouno stanisic palacios adli boniface ...WE cant even rate them because they are very young...even their older Players like andrich xhaka Tah schick could still become worldclass cause they are between age 25-30...except hradecky xhaka and Hofmann all are under the age of 30

@@tb2571 corny argument, thats like saying madrid is better individually while lets say 🤔stuttgart as a team is better lol.

prem than was Not nearly as good as It Is now Just donte Comper Teams from two different eras

Bundesliga is better than PL this year. Just look at international events. Leverkusen record will be remembered for centuries.

Nonsense

​@@omardevonlittle3817 When arsenal won the invincible season 03/04 (EPL ONLY) only 1 English team got to the UCL Semi finals and that was Chelsea (United went out in the RO16). This season 2 German teams made it to the semi finals of the UCL and one made it to the final. BOTH COULDN'T BEAT LEVERKUSEN. Again in the Europa 03/04, only one team made it to the semi final, Newcastle, they got knocked out by Marseille. Liverpool went out way earlier in the competition to Marseille as well. Arsenal had a great season in the EPL ONLY. Showing the lack of quality in the English division on how bad they performed in Europen competition. Leverkusen has done absolutely amazing in ALL COMPETITIONS they've competed in. Including smashing UCL Semi finalists / Bundesliga farmers Bayern Munich & not losing to UCL finalists Dortmund. Having a better win/draw record than Arsenal when you include all competitions aswell. Not limiting it to just league. It shows Leverkusen has done way better. Leverkusens invincible season is alot better than Arsenals.

​@@omardevonlittle3817 In all 3 its way impressive then arsenal

Cause it's comparing seasons, also arsenal got slapped around outside of the EPL

It's not BayerN .... it's Bayer! A small but important difference. Bayern is a state in Germany and Bayer is the name of the world famous Chemical company. Bayer Leverkusen is the sports club of it.

Who is Garnacho?

Lies 😂, you're just mad. They smashed UCL Semi finalists Bayern Munich, and drew with UCL finalists Dortmund. You're only saying so because they weren't playing there and using it as an excuse to put Leverkusen down.

BS

blah blah blah.... and the earth is a disc and the PL got a Team in the finals LOL

@@BadGaming367 A different story if they faced Man City or Real Madrid.

@@howardlam6181 not really, their goals conceded is brilliant and they're a strong team. Just cause they've never managed to do what they're doing right now doesn't mean they're not good enough to go against the top.

only one league game left, plus 2 finals

They don't need stars! The team works perfect without overpaid stars.

smh no asterisk..stop reaching

@@paulpivaral4832 reaching for what? The truth.

And how do you know that? Mere speculations.

If it weren't for the little word if, .... blah blah blah.... if it weren't for the little word if, you would also have realistic assessments. This way you just babble stupid stuff

Would they, really? They beat two out of the four CL semi finalists in the German Championship. Bayern who kicked out Arsenal from the CL they even took to school in their last face to face. Leverkusen currently is the best team playing the best football. City and Real can beat them on a good day, but it could well be the other way around.

That's the point? They don't have a super team. And still somehow, they're undefeated. They're on the verge of potentially winning 3 titles in one season. It's definitely much harder for them than it was for that Arsenal team.

@@jeffreyzepeda7884 That wasn't the point lol, the point is that they play against the worst ever bayern team in a long while, dortmund too

@@P.K... must be very painful that england has more european trophies than the bundesliga.

@@jeffreyzepeda7884not worth arguing with prem fanboys. You could have non English team with a front three of the father, son, and the Holy Spirit, and your average prem fanboy would still say they’d struggle against burnley

@@ikhlashasib8256 dortmund - ucl finalist