vlogbrothers I'm so glad I saw the video on the vlogbrothers and sent me over here! I forgot how much I LOVE this channel.

Why not ask yourself a better question? Why the hell do we need useless museum in the first place? Without them, they would have no means to do tax writeoffs. Then, ask yourself another question, why do the rich need to pay taxes? They worked hard for what they earned, and all you are doing is bragging that government didnt take enough money from them? Let me give you some figure, the bottom 50% of American pay $0 in taxes. A big fucking zero 0 !!! The "richest Americans" that you are complaining, despite all these "tax writeoffs", they still contribute a fucking big portion of government tax income. Last but not least, if there is a choice, government should always take less money from rich people rather than give more money to "artists" because why? Rich people will re-invest their money, create more jobs, stimulate economy, create better product that improve the society. Artists? Draw some useless shit. To see you receive so many likes really illustrate the stupidity of American.

@B0bby Moon yikes

If this vid is true then it's tax-payers, all the people (WE pay for government), who ultimately pay for profits for collectors, insurers and art dealers.

If you like her video so much why dont you marry her

I very much appreciate your words here. The stakes of this inflated art market are high. Not just for individuals who are interested in the field for non-market reasons, but for the future of art and art history. We must persist!

Here in the Philippines, we have quite the same issue. Small artists that need profit for a living tend to copy from auction darlings rather than taking the hard road of finding their own identity in art. This thinking made the scene here redundant, seeing the same things over and kver again, seeing the same people in the pedestal repeatedly, it's very rare to find someone new and unique. It makes the scene to small and art making a luxury.

Your story sounds so interesting!! Seriously. Just from this little snippet of what you wrote about what you deal with between your students, fellows, and clients makes me wish someone would make a movie about it!

I applaud you and hope you continue doing your valuable work. Especially in a country like yours where more gender equality is needed. You are very brave and a force for good!

Why are you victimising yourself?

Saoirse Ryan same here

It makes me want to exterminate everything about it.

Capitalism

There are so many great places showing innovative art that have nothing to do with that system. That’s the world I try to pay attention to. But after four (!) years of making videos I thought I should at least touch the topic. But best to keep your eyes on those places and your blinders to the rest, imho.

I am glad you did. It is part of the art world and we're here to learn. :)

There is a small gallery that is run by a high school art teacher in my town. They do painting rumbles (think art battles only for this one gallery, for two hours with auction at the end) if I’m up to it I go do.

Small galleries near tourist towns? Sorry to say, but they are more or less set up to serve the foreign wealthy market.

@@ShaunakDe - Or more likely, just cater to the tourists who want something from that area.

it's amazing how the rich use art to money launder and avoid taxes. For the money laundering part it's pretty smart. Obviously if you're in shady dealings you can't just wire 50 million dollars overseas without raising some eyebrows, and you can't exactly just mail $50 million worth of gold bars. But what you can do is have a random piece of art, have an art dealership that you have an arrangement with buy it from you the 'anonymous' collector for 50 million. Then art dealership sells it back to you, or your accomplices, maybe for like 52 million. They make a little profit, and you now have a piece of item that has been valued for 52 million that's basically as good as cash, and without any trace of it's origin because art houses don't have disclose where they got it. Since other rich people are in on the schemes also you can trade or sell that art anytime as there's always buyers looking to launder also

I feel you. Duchamp would be rolling in his grave if he knew the kind of unironic evaluation and precedence his artworks/pranks (Fountain specifically) that the art world has tacked on, and even more artists today are seeming to roll in their sleep having to endure those tactics. I understand the necessity of art as capital in a capitalist system, but between the monopolising galleries and the exorbitantly expensive prices billionaires are attaching to works, something is in dire need of change/reform.

red it becomes a symbol. that's why I think

@@user-eo1hw2kv1m We do NOT all desire a free market economy. A truly free market economy lends itself to a large number of abuses and perverse incentives. E.g. in a truly free market economy people could sell off their own organs, and there will of course be buyers looking to take advantage of people that don't really know what they're getting themselves into, just what the real value of what they're selling is. The sorts of stuff that also get thrown out in contract law. Sure, the Libertarians think they want a world where any contract goes, but in reality many of the contracts that would allow are ones that are currently thrown out as unconsciousable contracts, or for having abusive clauses, etc... We don't want to get squeezed by an outsized monopolist in the market either. When people see how truly free markets work in practice... they're not so appealing. Rather than free markets, what we really want are fair markets, and the difficulty in achieving that is that we don't all have the same vision of exactly what fair is, so it is constantly renegotiated through our institutions. Also, owning capital has never been sufficient to control a state as any competent state can seize any capital within it. Admittedly, not many states are competent, most are full of corruption. But ultimately, you can only bribe someone willing to take a bribe.

I’d never thought of it from the perspective of a Geneva native. The tragedy seems all the more acute from closer range! Thanks for commenting.

Where did I hear it??? Hummmmm. "The rich sell to the poor (over and over again), and the poor try to sell to the rich." - I don't know, -thought it applied. Just putting it out there. -Maybe the best revenge is just creating great art, and Loving the process. -Enjoying our God given talents,.... and letting the rich go screw themselves😀. I'm sorry, that's not nice.

Prisilla Cope someone needs to tell that to my grandfather

Emerson Jakes awe....he must be a fun grandpa....don't tell him....everyone loves a surprise 😀

Prisilla Cope LOL

I bet a lot of the people buying art at these prices speak Russian, too.

Great point! Yes, something to think about.

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Tbf if you mean a Stradivarius violins they aren't actually very good, it's kinda just hype. But I get what you mean, it seems mind boggling that these famous instruments aren't owned by musicians. At the very least we can take comfort in the fact that the actual best violins probably are within their reach.

Any commodity whose "value" is tied to "emotion" is open to such a market. When you say "interpretation" accountants hear the word "fungible". You can basically get that work "appriased" to curiously match the value of how much tax you need to wipe out. And if you get it wrong, no biggie, your lawyers will sort it our and keep you out of jail.

This is also why hollywood technically never turns a profit... but that's another story.

Thanks for voicing this. I felt uncomfortable doing it, but it has such a huge effect on the art world that it’s irresponsible not to. Any other aspects of the market you feel it’s important to address?

The Art Assignment oh man, how allot of drug money gets laundered through art, the sexism that is experienced in the scene, how successful artists actually run factories instead of studios, general advice on navigating/networking with galleries and not getting screwed over with contracts, to name few

I'm still learning myself so if anyone else cares to chime in, please do!

@@nanspants +Have you read the $12 Million Stuffed Shark. It explains the art world.

Seeing this 5 years later and seeing that's completely not true lol

Thank you! We really appreciate your enormous effort. As much as you would like to do, we would welcome. Sorry that we don’t have the capacity to do it ourselves!

first, you have to render out the fat. You can reserve this to use for French Fries

It feels weird to call it a "donation" when they profit off it too. Like we're missing a word for this.

That is a good point! But at least they have the chance of being seen. Museums only have so much square footage and do their best to rotate works on fixed budgets. Also there are a great many works in museum storage that only see the light of day every few years because light will degrade the material. Also tastes change, and sometimes a work will be hidden away in storage for decades before a new curator comes in and "rediscovers" it. Or a work suddenly becomes relevant again because of current events and reconsiderations of history. Good museum staffers know their collections and try to make the best of them, while also keeping them safe for future generations. But still, good point.

Love the little prince so much.

Oh that’s a good challenge. It’s tough to come up with another word or phrase for it, as the objects of exchange are indeed “art,” although I’d argue they lose something in the process. Object exchange? Or is it just part of the luxury goods market, same as a “time piece”? Any ideas? Suggestions?

The bubble will likely burst regardless of regulation!

The Art Assignment that makes sense thanks! I'm super curious now I'm going to learn more about it.

No, people think "I want to be rich and do this, too". People think of themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. They are just one lottery ticket away from it.

Although I guess I should probably name my set of plan drawers “Free Port”, with the sheer amount of amazing art purchased or swapped with my peers that I have sitting in them, hidden away until the day I eventually frame it. 😬

That is my kind of free port!

Or the artist of the now-expensive paintings thanks to the rich, can produce more paintings to reap massive wealth. Your logic is flawed.

Not if you're Damien Hirst.

Harry Jang they make a work only for someone else to get more money from it. You are the flawed one.

Harry Jang nah most artists pieces are only that high in price when the artist is dead

@@monkeymilk8060 it's only like that when your artworks are not famous, the rich BUY your artworks and make it an investment, and they will invest in you more. Someone gotta give you money. You're the flawed one here.

Or, you can keep the art! (And give it to your kids or a museum when you die, which also has tax and estate implications that are important to consider.)

@@theartassignment i dont want to die though

It must burst, mustn't it?!

I wonder how many clowns running in those circles work for PBS?

Andrew Thompson AndyT? Is that you? Of course we meet in the comments of the Art Assignment.

Ha! Yes, my friend, it is I. It's one of the best channels out there!

I don't see why you need to, though. I think understanding why he is important and enjoying his works are entirely two different things. I don't think you can discredit him by not liking him, but you'll probably feel better if you can articulate why. I know you say his works feel dull to you, so what about it that makes it dull? What is it that speaks to you in other works that you like? And I think it's fine for it to be an entirely personal reason. And if someone tries to make you feel bad about not liking Picasso's again, throw the ball back into their court and ask them what THEY like about his works, see if they parrot other people's opinions or they actually have their own. Ultimately, a taste in art is a personal thing, and I think anyone who uses the masters' names to lord over someone else is at best pretentious.

Thank you for tasking your time to respond:) The reason I find his work a little dull is that, especially in his paintings of inanimate subject, is that I find a lack of emotion. It feels more like a project than a piece of art trying to express or tell something to me. Admittedly I like some of his portraits, they can make me feel something, showing many different angels and flattening works and give the faces some character, but they feel a little repetitive in the end, which takes away some of the magic in my opinion. I feel like I can theoretically understand his works, but I can't feel a lot of the pieces on the inside.

bobob hansen his work is obstruction not abstract

It is abstract. As soon as a piece of art purposefully departures from the physical reality, its abstract. Just because something is based in a depicted thing or a depicted person, doesn't mean it's not abstract. Cubism is all about depicted scenes. Cubist abstracted from real life. Cubism is literally the starting point for many abstract styles. I would agree that his work is not total abstraction, but its still quite abstract.

Interesting, because I do sense something similar from Picasso's, too. I'm not a fan of his, either, and by the sound of it, I'm probably less his fan than you are. I actually like his sketches and doodles and early studies of a piece but not always the final version. I feel like in the process of making his art, he lost something that was in the subject itself, an individual essence of a kind. And I think that's similar to what you said about his art not expressing something to you or not make you feel anything. After he wrestled so much with it, there might really be nothing left to express by the end.