Arteta Experiment Goes Wrong As Arsenal Draw To Fulham (Curtis Shaw Match Reaction)

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9 ай бұрын

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@matthewnewberry7275
@matthewnewberry7275 9 ай бұрын
Arteta is arrogant and appears to be getting worse. A bit of humility would do him good, don't hold your breath.
@iMikes
@iMikes 9 ай бұрын
Talking about humility but don't realise you need to humble yourself lol. You aren't an expert either
@robmct77
@robmct77 9 ай бұрын
100% agree
@Fox_Mccloud11
@Fox_Mccloud11 9 ай бұрын
We’ll be deceased if we hold our breath for that
@johnpageiii5187
@johnpageiii5187 9 ай бұрын
Keeping it 💯
@roanwilliams1528
@roanwilliams1528 9 ай бұрын
More to come
@rebelrebel7722
@rebelrebel7722 9 ай бұрын
artetta is going to cost us the title
@MainManOzz
@MainManOzz 9 ай бұрын
Big up Curtis, i like this short 5 min match reaction video format 👍🏼 Regarding today's game, I feel the inclusion of Havertz is hampering the team performance. Its one thing having an inverted LB/RB (last season), and its another shoehorning a player, at the expense of 3 players which disrupts the entire cohesion of the team
@alanoflynn9645
@alanoflynn9645 9 ай бұрын
Facts Ozz 💯👌
@comradeozzbug
@comradeozzbug 9 ай бұрын
Well said Ozz 👊🏼
@alanoflynn9645
@alanoflynn9645 9 ай бұрын
Curtis, you literally took the words out of my mouth, I was actually telling my kids about it earlier 🙈🙈 all we needed this season was to tweak personnel from game to game and show our experience in the final run in.. What Arteta is doing atm is hindering our whole play of playing (which is actually very good) because he is obsessed with Pep instead of looking at what is straight in front of him 😡😡😡😡😡
@AnthonyScott5425
@AnthonyScott5425 9 ай бұрын
If Arteta doesn't revert back to what worked SO WELL last season, and switch us to a back 4 with White at RB, Gabriel next to Saliba, Zinny at LB, with Partey and Rice in the double pivot.....then we are doomed to fail this season. He also surely can't be so stubborn and riddled with hubris that he chooses to stick with Havertz. We'll know either way in 8 days. 🤞
@Fox_Mccloud11
@Fox_Mccloud11 9 ай бұрын
He’ll stick with havertz all season just like he did with Willian. Clown management
@flipmode9623
@flipmode9623 9 ай бұрын
For all Pep's brilliance, notice how he's tightened up City's defense. Defense wins titles!
@grantdevereux5476
@grantdevereux5476 9 ай бұрын
Arteta please note that 70% possession does not earn anyone the right to win a game. You need to score goals and be ruthless in games. Stop your madness with these experiments, keep things simple and trust your players in their correct positions on the field. If you are not careful you are going to lose the dressing room very soon.
@Jeff-vm6mz
@Jeff-vm6mz 9 ай бұрын
It looks like every player needs to fight for the position except Havertz
@flipmode9623
@flipmode9623 9 ай бұрын
We can't challenge like this for sure. I'm not freaking out but we keep conceding too many goals at home, it helped to derail the push last season and if we don't stop the nonsense and get our act together, we'll be done before December. Valid point, we looked better last year and I don't like that. I know players need time but we aren't even playing the same way and for the life of me I don't understand why. Hopefully Arteta fixes it and get the team playing the way they should be.
@king_julian327
@king_julian327 9 ай бұрын
4 clean sheets in 20 at home apparently. His experimentation is going to cost us massively this season.
@CROSSNSHOOT
@CROSSNSHOOT 9 ай бұрын
A wise man said, once is a mistake, more than once is insanity!
@EMAN4everlife
@EMAN4everlife 9 ай бұрын
There was so many things wrong with that game 1. Lack of clinical finishing in the first half 2. Us putting the foot of the gas when we take the lead again which seems to be an recurring theme at the emirates... This needs to stop 3. Havertz LCM experiment needs to end as he is ineffective there when he has the ball. Bruh there was a point saliba pass the ball to havertz who is in acres of space and the guy passes it back instead of driving with the ball.. wtf 4. The partey rb experiment needs to stop too coz saka seems isolated as he needs an overlapper to support. The only way it works is if the rcm underlaps or overlaps like a esr instead of being the creator
@GuNnR-ot1wr
@GuNnR-ot1wr 9 ай бұрын
They called Arteta best man to man manager but how many career has he killed? So arrogant only picks his favorites. Saka needs to be dropped so he can gain his form back. They guy been playing nonstop either if has good game or bad game. We can’t just play the same team every game. We have to changed our tactics and team based on our opponents
@nameblocked
@nameblocked 9 ай бұрын
He's already ruined a couple world class strikers
@isagreg8482
@isagreg8482 9 ай бұрын
Arteta cannot manage youngsters who want to grow he isn't good enough like Wenger he has really messed players ,KT loaned,Smith Rowe not playing,Nelson not playing,Balogan sold,This manager needs to be sacked the earlier the better or else we wl be back to eighth position this season
@MatezAul
@MatezAul 9 ай бұрын
I agree Big C, I said the same thing during pre-season -- that 2nd place last season (with quite a lot of points and very close against a juggernaut like City) wasn't all that bad considering the players' levels. The system clearly worked. Should have just kept the working system, pinpointed the weak spots and brought in quality ballers. This is on the manager, because as much as Havertz doesn't work, he doesn't play much different than he did at Chelsea when Arteta went for him. Havertz didn't buy himself. He also isn't forcing Arteta to play the other players out of position. And with all due respect to Arteta, if he doesn't learn from these mistakes immediately, it will (and should) be the end of his career at Arsenal. This season is crunch time, the "process" was given a lot of time and even more money, time to show results.
@LSU_Gunner
@LSU_Gunner 9 ай бұрын
well said C...preach it on this Sunday morning
@cdavidcd14
@cdavidcd14 9 ай бұрын
Love dat missa c straight sharp and to the point you are 100%right
@thischannelisfunny1
@thischannelisfunny1 9 ай бұрын
After Havertz was hooked, we were cooking again!
@jamesdebroy344
@jamesdebroy344 9 ай бұрын
I can’t believe this was a 3 minute video, so much info and opinion for a short, keep it up 👍
@AndrewJ54
@AndrewJ54 9 ай бұрын
You said it Curtis as I've been saying since the start of the season 'if it aint broke don't fix it', simple. All Arteta had to do was build from last season, instead of tinkering around playing players out of position and complicating things. All you had to do was strengthen with quality additions to cope with the CL and go again in the PL, but importantly to win a trophy for the fans. I'm sixty years an Arsenal fan and this is the most ludicrous set-up I've ever come across from any previous Arsenal manager. Tinkateta get out of my club before you destroy it altogether.
@alanoflynn9645
@alanoflynn9645 9 ай бұрын
Facts 👍 if it ain't broke, don't fix it, SIMPLE AS 😡😡
@bsigns1935
@bsigns1935 9 ай бұрын
Next week I want us to win, but if we don't...this manager needs to get humbled.
@josephb9885
@josephb9885 9 ай бұрын
1. Havertz MUST be benched for Trossard or ESR 2. Man City would never go into a defensive shell at 2-1 up to 10 men Fulham. If you smell blood, keep hunting. 3. Partey MUST play midfield even if it means replacing Rice 4. Gabriel Mag MUST play center back with Saliba 5. Ben White MUST play right back 6. Arteta needs to add to what worked well last season. There is no need to change everything.
@naledimaaga6840
@naledimaaga6840 9 ай бұрын
Realest as per usual, Big up bro
@richardblckwd
@richardblckwd 9 ай бұрын
Love the short match reaction video 👍🏾
@MegaBabyJ11
@MegaBabyJ11 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully this games a wake up call to the team. We put ourselves in that situation & in the end we were our own greatest enemy
@bsigns1935
@bsigns1935 9 ай бұрын
you should see his post-match interview, he regrets nothing about the formation and kinda blames the team for not finishing the chances.
@markpjf85
@markpjf85 9 ай бұрын
Havertz < no 64 million you could’ve had three more new players to improve the squad but The sword is sharp and pointy arteta name is On it
@vijujacob63
@vijujacob63 9 ай бұрын
He spent a good two seasons to build up a team and fine-tune each position and partnerships, so it's a bit daft of Arteta to break Saliba-Gabriel partnership. It he wants to accommodate Kai, dropping Gabriel isn't the solution and instead he should have played three at the back with White-Saliba-Gabriel with a double pivot of Partey-Rice in front and should have played Trossard in the attacking midfield of Martinelli-Tross-MÖ8- Saka with Kai at #9. Instead he completely botched everything. Ideally, he should make players like Kai, Jesus & Zin sit on the bench and itch to get on the pitch instead of giving them a free pass. Fabio seems to have got the fire in him, so must be the same with Kai. Again, how long does he want to bench ESR and kill his potential? Bizzare substitution of MÖ8, whatever stage in the game it might have been because he has the ability to create at any moment. I don't hold out much hope this season.
@nameblocked
@nameblocked 9 ай бұрын
You got an agenda Curtis!!! Mistakes Arteta is back again
@son0funiverse
@son0funiverse 9 ай бұрын
This ain’t dexter laboratory hahah love this guy
@CurtisShawTV
@CurtisShawTV 9 ай бұрын
😂😂👊🏾👊🏾
@yovonneotto2669
@yovonneotto2669 9 ай бұрын
Arteta has too GOOO # PLAYS own best holding midfielder right back madddddd
@creagle26
@creagle26 9 ай бұрын
The biggest problem is we don't have a true striker. Should have scored 5 goals yesterday
@jalex4184
@jalex4184 9 ай бұрын
Exactly experiment in preseason and for games that dont matter...like end of a season depending on circumstances...jeez
@codemystifiedjavafx2796
@codemystifiedjavafx2796 9 ай бұрын
I wonder whether Arteta is try to shoo in Havertz or shoo out Gabriel. The only way I can maybe see why he's being so stubborn in trying to make Havertz fit into the starting 11 is if the Gabriel / Saudi links have legs! No Gabriel means your next best CB has to take his place (i.e. Our RB Ben White) and that then leaves us with no option for RB forcing us to find a new system. Just a thought 🤔
@amalrajpandey
@amalrajpandey 9 ай бұрын
All my energy & excitement for this new season got punctured watching this game against Fulham..... seriously now i think I'll be happy of we make top 4....just so disappointed 😞😞😞☹️☹️ ☹️
@fatalitydnb
@fatalitydnb 9 ай бұрын
Spot on Big C. Stick with the winning formula. The more I see Havertz play the more the signing baffles me. Wtf were they thinking. Shambolic. He’s not even worth half what we paid for him, we should of gone for Maddison instead, better player better deal
@frankyao2571
@frankyao2571 9 ай бұрын
Well said I am very happy with your submission
@musicvidztv1909
@musicvidztv1909 9 ай бұрын
Big up the Dexter’s Labatory gang!
@xodacan5072
@xodacan5072 9 ай бұрын
Curtis, if I had to criticise arteta it would be havertz, he keeps playing havertz in midfield when its so obvious he's a striker, fabio came on and you see the difference between a midfielder and a striker being forced into midfield. Wouldnt play haaland in midfield, its crazy
@godwinagbuza2516
@godwinagbuza2516 9 ай бұрын
Arteta is trying to copy pep without a striker like haaland what a joke.😂😂
@LSU_Gunner
@LSU_Gunner 9 ай бұрын
Pep is off recovering from back surgery, chilling out, and laughing at what we put out for a lineup. Marco Silva saw the lineup and knew Fulham had a chance. Completely overthinking it. Stop shoehorning Havertz into the lineup and make him earn his place.
@datguyd
@datguyd 9 ай бұрын
Sick of this tinkering
@rebelrebel7722
@rebelrebel7722 9 ай бұрын
got to agree with you Curtis 👍
@burchelwinkler9778
@burchelwinkler9778 9 ай бұрын
Real talk curtis;Arteta making a problem that is not necessary 2 make;
@user-againhello
@user-againhello 9 ай бұрын
it’s ridiculous. if he doesn’t change against united and don’t play well, there soon will be „arteta out“ voices, that’s for sure.
@nuedagunner9046
@nuedagunner9046 9 ай бұрын
3 games in the row, we play 10man as one player fit into nothing .
@janeil8184
@janeil8184 9 ай бұрын
Arteta is getting mad I don't what he is doing. This is madness
@gooner8david
@gooner8david 9 ай бұрын
My positivity with Havertz is starting to weaken. Hopefully Zinny can stay fit and Saliba and Gabrielle partnership can resume. Big test against Utd but think we will beat them. My biggest concern is Arteta's stubborness. Big up Curtis
@AndrewGasser
@AndrewGasser 9 ай бұрын
I am just not invested in Arsenal anymore. If i were Gabriel id have my transfer request in Sunday morning waiting on Arteta's desk before he walks through the door.
@shaikhsaif1802
@shaikhsaif1802 9 ай бұрын
Dexter's laboratory 😂😂😂
@fourlights
@fourlights 9 ай бұрын
Clown of a manager 🎪
@KamKmaK
@KamKmaK 9 ай бұрын
Arteta needs to get Sacked he is completely useless he’s been here and failing for too long, get the Brighton manager
@harryprabowo9063
@harryprabowo9063 9 ай бұрын
Draw is no longer an option for Arsenal.... COYG
@habsgunner9341
@habsgunner9341 9 ай бұрын
What did Arteta see in HAVERTZ. He was a big flop in Chelsea for almost 3 years and yet he spend 65 millions pounds to get him. This is it for me, this manager is clueless and arrogant. He will destroy Arsenal if we don’t sack him.
@imohcyril
@imohcyril 9 ай бұрын
U spoke my mind Bro. Why keep playing Partey at right back when we all know he can't run. Just look at the moves Ben White made when he moved there. There was fluidity in attack and defense. For me I believe that either Harverts play or Odegard plays. Both of them can't play the same position in the same match. It doesn't make sense.
@csandsoccer4660
@csandsoccer4660 9 ай бұрын
Big up Curtis as usual. Am I the only one who can see Arteta is trying the same tactics from last season except with the inverted fullback being on the right instead of the left? Because if that’s true, 1. He’s been forced into this change cuz Zinny’s not fully fit and no one else can play his role on the left. 2. I can understand him at least giving it a go early in the season so we are more tactically flexible (but we can’t drop many points). But yeah at least for the next game vs United I agree we should revert to Zinny on the left, which means the starting 11 from last season should be back.
@mihaiteodorescu9548
@mihaiteodorescu9548 9 ай бұрын
I love Curtis Shaw TV
@Boss_J7
@Boss_J7 9 ай бұрын
Facts C, naive from Arteta - Hope this a lesson learnt, we go again next week with hopefully, right system and the right players
@isagreg8482
@isagreg8482 9 ай бұрын
U think Arteta learns he doesn't if he had learnt he would not have played the system against Fulham the first two games we won but we really struggled not good enough to me twas a fluke win
@Boss_J7
@Boss_J7 9 ай бұрын
@@isagreg8482 I agree, his stubbornness has cost us overall past 3 games, let’s hope he scraps this experiment next week, we need him to
@DJ_Dre.P
@DJ_Dre.P 9 ай бұрын
Bless up Curtis, great stream earlier tho the result was catastrophic. It’s important that Arteta finds an identity for this team or else we will be sliding down the table faster than a stripper sliding down a pole! What pole you ask? You decide 😂😂😂 Also, December will mark four years for Arteta at the helm.
@JohnHoganN8
@JohnHoganN8 9 ай бұрын
Whether Gabby M is going to Saudi or not he is an Arsenal player now and needs to be playing for Arsenal. At the same time imagine a draw at Palace and a win at home against Fulham to make it feel better. 🤣 Rice is looking up at West Ham currently.
@davidokk4502
@davidokk4502 9 ай бұрын
To much Wenger stubbornness not enough Pep genius😅. And nothing wrong with an agenda against Kai. He sucks
@aaaak4
@aaaak4 9 ай бұрын
why is he drawing tierney, gabriel, ESM and ramsdale out, nevermind xhaka. its madness
@michaelnatty3425
@michaelnatty3425 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you 10000000000000% percent. Don't fix what's not broken
@westleymanc
@westleymanc 9 ай бұрын
💯,would of sufficed
@kolcseyakos5297
@kolcseyakos5297 9 ай бұрын
Raamsdale is shocking tbh
@xero014
@xero014 9 ай бұрын
Imagine changing 2 midfielders from last year’s starting XI then 3 of the back 4 too! If you told me we would sell Xhaka and buy 2 midfielders for £165m I would’ve bitten your hand off - it’s not working.
@jgooner894
@jgooner894 9 ай бұрын
We need to point out Zinchenko, Tomiyasu, Timber have been unavailable to start in these 3 games which is having an effect on changes. People saying go back to what works but don’t actually list a lineup that is the usual and when they’re fit.
@king_julian327
@king_julian327 9 ай бұрын
@@jgooner894 It ain't rocket science. Kiwior left back. Gabriel into the team where he belongs in a partnership with Saliba a and White as right back. More importantly, why let Tierney go if we're gonna be so limited defensively?
@jgooner894
@jgooner894 9 ай бұрын
@@king_julian327 So 4 CB’s against Fulham and at home? And doesn’t have a left or right back that inverts which is how we play so that’s more of a change than we’re used to.
@Uda007
@Uda007 9 ай бұрын
Last week I said Arteta risked our lead 1-0 against C.Palace after the red card incident. He played for defending only for the remaining 30 minutes without a striker. He took out Martinelli, Eddie, and Saka played as LB. If C.Palace scored in the set piece last week like yesterday then we could lost to C.Palace before the game ended. Arteta said last week he likes the way we won at the C.Palace. Well. I said it was stupid. We were lucky. We know Arsenal is the team that cannot play defending. We are an attacking team. We are not Man Utd can defend and go for the counterattack. This is not our DNA. Arsenal is about domination and attacking. Well... Yesterday just showed what type of team we are. I never trust Arsenal on defending. We just can't defend. Our defense is the attack.
@AdrianMoody-ky8is
@AdrianMoody-ky8is 9 ай бұрын
Eddie looking sturdy tho taken his chances but this result all due respect hopefully it shows we are short in the striker department square pegs and tinkering will cost us. Striker required
@amanyajoshua7414
@amanyajoshua7414 9 ай бұрын
Harvertz bringing his Chelsea curse in arsenal
@billh2333
@billh2333 9 ай бұрын
Yep one thing is obvious and that is HAvertz needs to sit on the bench for a while and relax into it - he looks stressed and under pressure and we all know NOTHING good comes when you do any job where you lack confidence or are stressed ….
@lascellesdavis492
@lascellesdavis492 9 ай бұрын
Curtis & majority of fans agree 100% . Simples! its not rocket science. If it`s not broke don`t fix it!. Man City have 2 world class players in every position we haven`t. Chopping & changing the team to shoehorn Havertz is a disaster! Partey is not full back he hasn`t got the legs he is CM. Please don`t do it!. We have ESR where is he? where is Gabriel? The team`s rhythm and dynamic is distorted. Pre -season is for experimentation only. Eddie needs to play against Man U next he is the sharpest striker we have at moment a replica of Ian Wright. I`m shocked at the experiment we are not a LABORATORY!
@MuslimTours
@MuslimTours 9 ай бұрын
I like this short review. Totally agree about the shape and letting tierney leave when we struggling for fullbacks is foolish
@goonsquad2489
@goonsquad2489 9 ай бұрын
A draw that was a loss....such crap.
@comradeozzbug
@comradeozzbug 9 ай бұрын
Last season could be viewed as a false positive in terms of challenging. This year, doesn’t look like we’ll be anywhere near challenging - perhaps a reflection of our baseline level. I do think that the Timber injury completely wrecked the plans however.
@Steven-ex3ne
@Steven-ex3ne 9 ай бұрын
Arteta "We are 10x better than last season"
@SkilzmanSwift
@SkilzmanSwift 9 ай бұрын
Arteta is deluded
@jamesblaize8853
@jamesblaize8853 9 ай бұрын
Its more like if it ain’t broken artera finds away to break it
@marcmurray2702
@marcmurray2702 9 ай бұрын
Arteta is on thin ice, last years team would batter this current team
@JohanDvd
@JohanDvd 9 ай бұрын
Curtis curtis curtis!!
@panda2776
@panda2776 9 ай бұрын
Midfield still fall short. Play a proper RB and LB will win the game, not always inverted RB/LB.
@marvindwaine8406
@marvindwaine8406 9 ай бұрын
I swear down if arteta plays harvetz in the man u game I am loosing it
@anonymous-ze5fg
@anonymous-ze5fg 9 ай бұрын
Arteta burning his own castle. Painful, Having more ball possession does not give you three points until you score goals, yesterday The same thing happened with Brighton, they conceded 3 goals with 79% ball possession. That is why Man City bought Halland but we bought Havartz, I Hope We win the next match against Man U, that is very important. #COYG
@bigboiiii883
@bigboiiii883 9 ай бұрын
Arteta forcing havertz in to the team just coz he cost £65m is a joke
@drewwho3281
@drewwho3281 9 ай бұрын
I really hope arteta sees this
@rebelrebel7722
@rebelrebel7722 9 ай бұрын
artetta has got to go, artetta, OUT, OUT, OUT
@tomschoening2210
@tomschoening2210 9 ай бұрын
Overthinking it..kinda like Pep and the CL..
@justthetwoofus.
@justthetwoofus. 9 ай бұрын
Far from panic mode. I’d rather this happen now than turning up against Man U. We still essentially have the same team as last year so it’s up to Arteta now to fix it.
@BeKindGoVegan.
@BeKindGoVegan. 9 ай бұрын
Havertz was a mistake.
@datguyd
@datguyd 9 ай бұрын
Am i the only one that would swap xhaka for havertz ? 65 mil for someone that ruins the flow of the team
@ramkumarramanathan3392
@ramkumarramanathan3392 9 ай бұрын
Oh my Eddie green screen
@flyintheskyd3214
@flyintheskyd3214 9 ай бұрын
Arteta trying too hard to be like pep.
@wongadrian238
@wongadrian238 9 ай бұрын
same old same old..... never learned a lesson!!!!
@markarnold1074
@markarnold1074 9 ай бұрын
Shite! Need Gabriel in. 4 backs. No Partey in the back! Try Trossard on the left wing.
@stevenchitumba7286
@stevenchitumba7286 9 ай бұрын
arteta is killing arsenal, team
@Siddharth-bd1th
@Siddharth-bd1th 9 ай бұрын
Get the cone man out and bring klopp in. Liverpool are losing key players and i think if we really push to bring him in he will come to arsenal. ARTETA OUT KLOPP IN NOW... I need proven managers and not work experience managers
@markpjf85
@markpjf85 9 ай бұрын
Not a good The system is a joke partey at right back that’s a no no arteta experimenting is a joke and it will cost him in the end
@westleymanc
@westleymanc 9 ай бұрын
Arsenal took it to the wire playing best 11, not fannying about with team selection
@bmwambu626
@bmwambu626 9 ай бұрын
True dat Big C..Arteta needs to bring back Gabriel in defence plus pliz play players in their best positions-try to get the best out of them as opposed to clowning them which is what you(Arteta) are doing to some of them at the moment .thomas partey has never been a right back.we may have gotten away with the experiments so far but this is the premier league..b4 we know it we may start playing catch up!n we are in the champions league this season..we cannot afford this..Mr Arteta stop the experiments..if it ain't broke don't try to fix it
@asanda9606
@asanda9606 9 ай бұрын
Please someone tell him he is not Pep🤦🏽‍♂️
@lilmonkey9919
@lilmonkey9919 9 ай бұрын
Why is everyone over reacting? It's only the second game of the same. People need to chill.
@gspianoguitar4369
@gspianoguitar4369 9 ай бұрын
Title Challenge 🤣 That ain't happening brother. Not under this manager. Maybe with these players if played in positions that reflect their strengths...but NOT under a 'wannabe Pep'
@emmamurphy7458
@emmamurphy7458 9 ай бұрын
Breaking news…. Gabriel is going ahlalil for £130mil
@wisepalaz
@wisepalaz 9 ай бұрын
Arteta is not good enough, when will people realize? He had time had money, time is up.
@DavWalker-zu6hh
@DavWalker-zu6hh 9 ай бұрын
Mikel havntzaclue Wenger settings
@garyoconnor8421
@garyoconnor8421 9 ай бұрын
Why o why was this system not tryed in pre season or in the shield against man city no he waits till the league who is the dunce
@sim_10.
@sim_10. 9 ай бұрын
Arteta’ stubbornness annoys me man he did the same thing last season with fabio v tryna play him to prove a point he isnt a flop KMT GO BACK TO WHAT WORKS MAN
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