😱😱 ARTETA WILL NOT WIN MAJOR TROPHIES AT ARSENAL! 😱😱 HE COULD BE YOUR OWN BRENDAN RODGERS!

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Football's 12th Man

Football's 12th Man

27 күн бұрын

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@romelleking7426
@romelleking7426 25 күн бұрын
Truth be told.....the talk about Arteta comes from a place where people dont like where Arsenal are.
@Adam-ui4ef
@Adam-ui4ef 25 күн бұрын
SO true. If we sacked Arteta and hired Graham Potter like these Lee Gunner dickheads told us we needed to do 18 months ago, rival fans would laugh at us. Most of the Arsenal fans wanting Arteta out, are rival fans posing as Arsenal fans. And the rival fans want Arteta out ASAP
@milesbrittain161
@milesbrittain161 20 күн бұрын
Where are we? 4 years without a trophy, nobody gives a fuck about a team who wins nothing. We are serial bottlers and u guys accept failure,
@granitxhaka7261
@granitxhaka7261 25 күн бұрын
Arteta and Arsenal PR have brainwashed fans to think trajectory=trophies and fans are 'Proud' of failure these days
@OBELISK3210
@OBELISK3210 25 күн бұрын
This is why I hate my fanbase because the bars fallen so far down since tuchel mentality left this club,it’s been piss poor. A manager that delivered & always said not winning titles at Chelsea is a failure. To now being mid table
@granitxhaka7261
@granitxhaka7261 25 күн бұрын
@@OBELISK3210 trust me bro United and Chelsea always do damage when they are at the top, it's just us who are happy and satisfied with "Challenging"
@granitxhaka7261
@granitxhaka7261 25 күн бұрын
@@OBELISK3210 your Club showed more Ambition than mine while we are at our best and you at your worst in the last 20 years 🤣
@TundeFacus
@TundeFacus 25 күн бұрын
Cry more 😢😢😢😢😢
@TundeFacus
@TundeFacus 25 күн бұрын
If you don’t like Arteta your life is full of hate and hatred will destroy you mate.
@chukwumanweke6917
@chukwumanweke6917 25 күн бұрын
Flawless okay… we hear you. We hear your opinion now rest man
@andrewwright4195
@andrewwright4195 25 күн бұрын
I agree with flawless it about wining klopp definitely underachieved
@gooner4life518
@gooner4life518 25 күн бұрын
Nobody remembers 2nd place. To say that Arteta is going up against the best is an excuse is pure madness. Wenger came in and won the league in his second full season. Ferguson was on top of his game at the time and nobody in the league could compete with them financially. You have to find a way. Conte and Klopp managed to beat Pep
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 25 күн бұрын
I am not having that conte 1.. This Arsenal team would beat that 2016 Pep team easy
@gooner4life518
@gooner4life518 25 күн бұрын
@@GermanChickenwing well how do you know that? They've never played them so you're just assuming
@GermanChickenwing
@GermanChickenwing 25 күн бұрын
@@gooner4life518 Dude you know that was Pep first season at City right? Could you name me the city team that season? In short 50% of those players were not there the next season..That should tell you everything you need to know
@Adam-ui4ef
@Adam-ui4ef 25 күн бұрын
Fergusoon took 6 years to win the league at United. By citing Ferguson you contradict your own argument. Dummy
@granitxhaka7261
@granitxhaka7261 25 күн бұрын
@@gooner4life518 Xabi Alonso won against 10 time winner Bayern who had world class players in their team despite an average season. Most Arsenal fans are just brainwashed into believing Arteta is going to win us anything that's why they are Proud of and celebrate 2nd place finishes. After all these years we still move like a small club and refuse to improve the 1st 11 who failed to get the job done
@FredericFreedom
@FredericFreedom 25 күн бұрын
Arsenal fans always making excuses. Its hilarious.
@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630
@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630 17 күн бұрын
So do United fans go by the truth or are you really gonna lie to yourself like that?
@patchh15
@patchh15 25 күн бұрын
Absolute facts by Flawless so I don’t know what you’re laughing about in the thumbnail; this is a Southgate situation. £700m spent in 4 years … ZERO FINALS, let alone a trophy. Endless European humiliations & the greatest PL Title bottlejob of all time. A chequebook manager who is a serial bottler.
@TundeFacus
@TundeFacus 25 күн бұрын
Keep crying mate Arteta going nowhere so keep crying to Lee gunner channel 😂😂😂😂😂
@hoodedhermes6515
@hoodedhermes6515 25 күн бұрын
LMAOO... You're just lying
@snapperbread5589
@snapperbread5589 25 күн бұрын
He won fa cup though
@unclemad4367
@unclemad4367 25 күн бұрын
Only if you actually believed that😂
@romelleking7426
@romelleking7426 25 күн бұрын
Endless European humiliations? Played 2 seasons in Europe
@unclemad4367
@unclemad4367 25 күн бұрын
Arteta is the man, Flawaless is the same guy that said Arteta will never have us Challenging🥱 we’ll see next season if he’s still got this chest
@ajbyatt1419
@ajbyatt1419 25 күн бұрын
So When Artea Wins nothing Again Next season then what??????
@leonkilbury3754
@leonkilbury3754 24 күн бұрын
​@@ajbyatt1419exactly 😂😂 he will go back to hiding again just like most artetasexuals.😂
@ajbyatt1419
@ajbyatt1419 24 күн бұрын
@@leonkilbury3754 I am tired of it bro because no other big club wouldn't sack for no trophy in 4 season yet most would sack Artea If we don't win this season there making it 5
@ajbyatt1419
@ajbyatt1419 24 күн бұрын
@@unclemad4367 Simple Question why are u backing a manager that needs two bin the cups two come 2nd????
@Adam-ui4ef
@Adam-ui4ef 25 күн бұрын
People who think its in Arsenals interest to sack Arteta are beyond stupid.
@granitxhaka7261
@granitxhaka7261 25 күн бұрын
More stupid than the ones who have made Arteta bigger than Arsenal?
@user-tc4vo7nb1d
@user-tc4vo7nb1d 25 күн бұрын
@@granitxhaka7261no one did but we just want him to stay!! We don’t care what you or other want you get it??
@Adam-ui4ef
@Adam-ui4ef 25 күн бұрын
@@granitxhaka7261 Straw man argument. No one thinks Arteta is bigger than Arsenal. We just dont go along with you Lee Gunner dickheads who have been caught in the past pushing managers like Graham Potter & Antonio Conte down our throats. Raise ya standards
@zankos6782
@zankos6782 25 күн бұрын
Yeah arsenal should sack arteta if the club actually wants to win a trophy we are in a never ending cycle of failure with arteta
@troy8613
@troy8613 24 күн бұрын
Half a decade zero trophies and 700m spent.
@FredericFreedom
@FredericFreedom 25 күн бұрын
Flawless always talks sense
@kwesiackon1296
@kwesiackon1296 25 күн бұрын
Okay, for those that believe that Arteta can cross the line, and win the league, what could he have done to convince them?
@kwesiackon1296
@kwesiackon1296 25 күн бұрын
What else*
@leonkilbury3754
@leonkilbury3754 24 күн бұрын
Facts
@BrianConlon-ng5bw
@BrianConlon-ng5bw 24 күн бұрын
@@kwesiackon1296 Wtf do u know Jaffa?
@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630
@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630 17 күн бұрын
Yeah maybe to an utter moron he does lol
@thesaint3865
@thesaint3865 25 күн бұрын
Arteta is the reason why Arsenal didn't do the double
@granitxhaka7261
@granitxhaka7261 24 күн бұрын
@@thesaint3865 💯 Klopp would have gotten us over the line at least once
@BrianConlon-ng5bw
@BrianConlon-ng5bw 24 күн бұрын
And why they haven't fcuk all in 4 years - unlike Lawless's West Ham...
@JasonMcNeill-bv8lb
@JasonMcNeill-bv8lb 24 күн бұрын
@@granitxhaka7261 Klopp shat it, more than he won… so lies.
@KnightHQ
@KnightHQ 24 күн бұрын
Arteta is the second best manger in the world
@ribsybrown510
@ribsybrown510 23 күн бұрын
This love for Frauteta is crazy. As bad as Eric Ten Hag is,at least he has won two trophies in the two seasons he has been at the club while spending lest money than the cone man from Manchester. Trophies are what fans should celebrate.
@clementakufo6566
@clementakufo6566 11 күн бұрын
Arteta should be sacked immediately this season IF we have a trophyless season ... Can't go 6 years and spend over 850 million in transfer windows and still can't win a major European trophy!!! We need to demand progress which is winning major European trophy would address weakness in the squad and developing players!!!
@ShaunMcLauglin-gg6lh
@ShaunMcLauglin-gg6lh 23 күн бұрын
100% true, Arsenal went from a club that were feared all across Europe to being a football club renowned for playing pretty football without winning trophies. It has been the same drawn out scenario since the latter wenger years. Always a couple players short of getting it over the line. This season will be no different. And then the vicious circle of our best players leaving starts again.
@younoteventeenx
@younoteventeenx 23 күн бұрын
Spot on mate
@beasttitan8747
@beasttitan8747 25 күн бұрын
Ten Hag better than Arteta and I don't even fancy him at United as an onlooker.
@helicoptersrkool
@helicoptersrkool 25 күн бұрын
That explains why rivals want ten haag to stay.
@jordandavis3867
@jordandavis3867 25 күн бұрын
Yes because Prem Managers are scared of Ten Hag apparently 😂😂.
@BrianConlon-ng5bw
@BrianConlon-ng5bw 24 күн бұрын
@@jordandavis3867 Like you're scared of leaving your mothers basement
@stuartblyde
@stuartblyde 25 күн бұрын
There's 4 trophies top play for why are man just talking about the Premier league? Trajectory is only relevant if there's an end goal. Whys no1 talking about how poor others have been utd Chelsea liverpool etc football works in cycles what happens if utd Chelsea liverpool etc get there act together 5 years 700m and the only positive is good title charges what about the other 20 trophies he's failed at. What about the first 2 and a half seasons. Arsenal are just spurs and arteta is poch 2.0 atleast poch done decent in the CL. All this loser mentality oh we can't compete it's pep. Well guess what wenger and Jose beat sir alex numerous times who's better then pep. I would argue jose was better then.pep also. Let's just give up then forget about signings and the upcoming seasons. What are we doing here Problem is no team are trying too beat pep the fans accept being losers.the clubs lap.it up Because Let's be real if Arsenal actually want trophies they would pot arteta who's not good enough Chelsea wouldn't appointed a championship manager utd wouldn't keep ten hag. Peps laughing Let's be real ten hag and emery are the 2nd and 3rd best manager in the league arteta as challenged twice slot is a bum Peps laughing
@TheDreamchaser2016
@TheDreamchaser2016 25 күн бұрын
Most arsenal fans argue that they don't want to go for small trophies. They say they only want to go for PL and CL trophies. Which ironically, they are unlikely to win those lol
@stuartblyde
@stuartblyde 25 күн бұрын
@@TheDreamchaser2016 yh they downplay trophies like they win trophies every season.
@dre8463
@dre8463 15 күн бұрын
​@@stuartblydenobody has downplayed trophies more than rivals of Arsenal when they won all those FA Cups. 'It means nothing if you dont win it with a PL or a CL' 'its a mickey mouse cup' 'It means nothing if you dont challenge for the big prizes' 'You're not in the CL'. You guys forget what you say.
@stuartblyde
@stuartblyde 15 күн бұрын
@dre8463 well now u are talking too me not anymore else I never downplay trophies
@adamelmino8359
@adamelmino8359 22 күн бұрын
One ☝️ team can win 🥇 more than one trophy 🏆. The four managers comment is factually wrong.
@thebeautifulgame433
@thebeautifulgame433 24 күн бұрын
Arteta is just starting in management, he still has tons of potential together with the young squad. He'll start winning in no time.
@d_rush2367
@d_rush2367 25 күн бұрын
This is why it’s important to thread lightly when critiquing a rivals. AFC fans was guilty of it as well when LVP was doing it, but do you think these United fans would be this critical of United if it was them competing with city with not a lot to show for it? Personally, I’m not satisfied but I would rather be where we are than where we were a couple seasons ago
@AyaGumede
@AyaGumede 23 күн бұрын
I hear a lot about sacking Arteta or that he's not good enough to win us major honors. But i hear no names of managers that get us over the line better than Arteta. You can't claim you're not being emotionally immature when you cry about improving on Arteta but with absolutely no name or solution to replace him
@arsenemeansarsenal8642
@arsenemeansarsenal8642 22 күн бұрын
they just wanna make noise
@milesbrittain161
@milesbrittain161 20 күн бұрын
Inzaghi, zidane, tuchel, girona manager, all managers who would win 10 times more than what Arteta will and do better in europeb
@AyaGumede
@AyaGumede 20 күн бұрын
@@milesbrittain161 lol Girona manager lmfao
@milesbrittain161
@milesbrittain161 20 күн бұрын
@@AyaGumede yes, done 10 times better than anything Arteta done getting them into a title race in his 2nd season against the best team in the world and with low budget.
@AyaGumede
@AyaGumede 20 күн бұрын
@@milesbrittain161 and yet you don't even know his name or cared enough to put in the effort to Google his name
@SFP0181
@SFP0181 25 күн бұрын
You lot can't compare Klopp to Arteta coz you say he is far better than him (facts by the way). yet even he only 1 times against Pep in 9yrs, I mean that's one of the best experienced manager in the best Manager in the world with all quality, yet he bested Pep once.
@younoteventeenx
@younoteventeenx 23 күн бұрын
He won other trophies along the way including the UCL
@JaySeriva
@JaySeriva 24 күн бұрын
If they don’t rate Arteta surely they would want him to stay why do they all want him savked
@CasperSIngh12
@CasperSIngh12 24 күн бұрын
Yes potentially 4 winners a year buddy in top right corner but no trophies for assna last 4 years so out of 12 potential trophies arteta has 0 and don’t say vs pep pep wasn’t in Europa
@Gabrielexpress6911
@Gabrielexpress6911 24 күн бұрын
Every other fanbase want to talk shit about arsenal and goes on to say arsenal fans are unbearable. Flawless with a proper rat behaviour
@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630
@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630 17 күн бұрын
LOL see this is why nobody wanted United to win the FA Cup because their fans were just gonna get giddy & start lying as usual. Their fanbase live by false narratives so it's no surprise they're now trying to use the FA Cup & the previous Carabao trophy as a metric to argue that Ten Hag is the better of the 2 managers when in truth both cups were fluke wins. Ten Hag has been terrible. Tell the truth.
@arsenemeansarsenal8642
@arsenemeansarsenal8642 22 күн бұрын
so who is the next guy? some fans are just openly stupid
@khavan25
@khavan25 25 күн бұрын
When Arteta wins flawless is getting his head kicked in online
@granitxhaka7261
@granitxhaka7261 25 күн бұрын
🧢
@leonkilbury3754
@leonkilbury3754 24 күн бұрын
Youve been saying that for the past 4 years and hes won nothing with hes own players.
@SteveBarrow-lp2ns
@SteveBarrow-lp2ns 24 күн бұрын
When your mother comes home from school she's going to beat you
@DivingIntoDestiny
@DivingIntoDestiny 25 күн бұрын
Dan is a horrible representative for Chelsea fans
@safe-y4c
@safe-y4c 25 күн бұрын
Until unless donkey owner are being there arsenal never win major that’s it
@jordandavis3867
@jordandavis3867 25 күн бұрын
A load of ripe waffle. The problem with Flawless' analysis of Arteta is that Arteta has already won a major. He has also succesfully overseen all the transformation needed on and off the pitch to make Arsenal a consistent title contender. Brendan Rodger challenged for 1 title and fell off a cliff at Liverpool after that. Brendan Rodgers also never had that great an impact at Liverpool. For Arteta to be this young in his managerial career and have the level of leadership , intelligence and skill he posesses it would be complete idiocracy to sack him just because he hasn't won another major yet. You can clearly see what he is building towards and it is really on the owners, the board and Edu to do all that is necessary to help Arteta reach his goals because the man is doing his part.
@BrianConlon-ng5bw
@BrianConlon-ng5bw 24 күн бұрын
"A load of ripe waffle" says Arsenals biggest melt & Mudryk fanboy who sees the FA Cup as a major trophy, thinks Arteta the clown has successfully overseen all the transformation needed on and off the pitch thats seen the club record a record annual lost and him winning fcuk all for 4 seasons running after spunking 700m is down to the "level of leadership, intelligence and skill he possesses" Comedy Gold It get's better... "You can clearly see what he is building towards" - 5 trophy less seasons on the bounce "it is really on the parasite owners, the clueless board and Edu the Fraud to do all that is necessary to help Arteta reach his goal in becoming the biggest failure in world football. So far so good eh....
@amerzeb14
@amerzeb14 25 күн бұрын
And who is currently available that significantly better than Arteta? Because there is no one out there who clear of arteta that's an option. The fact that rivals want arteta out shows the importance of arteta
@patchh15
@patchh15 25 күн бұрын
Endless better managers are out there - being the one you got rid of for him in Unai Emery for starters. £700m on own squad spent in 4 years - no Finals, let alone a trophy. Olympiakos/Villarreal/Sporting Europa humiliations. Southampton/Nottingham Forest FA Cup humiliations. Lost to the worst Bayern team in decades with the best Arsenal team in decades. Bottled an 8 point lead in a month due to picking Rob Holding over his brand new £25m CB Kiwior who he already wants rid of. You’ve got a chequebook manager who is a serial bottler.
@corybrown416
@corybrown416 25 күн бұрын
@@patchh15You wrote all that just to be proved wrong in the future. 😂 By the way what do overachieving, works beating club do you support?
@TundeFacus
@TundeFacus 25 күн бұрын
They want Arsenal to be like Chelsea so bad United fans are a disgrace 👍🫵
@Cesccy
@Cesccy 25 күн бұрын
The fact that a lot of rivals want arteta out and wanted ETH to stay says a lot 🤣. Everyone wants to count 4 yrs no trophy yet they’ve forgotten the FA cup arteta won 🤣. They count how many finals he’s been yet we’ve competed for the league 2 yrs in a row.(closest we’ve been in 20 yrs) ask Klopp who’s won 1 league in 9 yrs even though he was a manager for ages before where Arteta is in his FIRST JOB! 700M spent? No its 700M investment of players that have doubled the amount Arsenal invested in.(squad now is worth billion if not more) Does he need to win 🏆 trophies? YES! But he got us from the bottom of the barrel to competing against the BEST TEAM IN THE PL HISTORY! Unlike Emery who bottled the 4 to Spurs and got us humiliated in Europa League final. We haven’t been in UCL for ages, he got us there and went on to quarter final losing against experienced BM. (Remember, less than 4 players of arsenal, had played in the Champions League prior to that) By the end of the day, rivals would wanna ged rid off good coaches that we’ve got if they good (I hated Alex Ferguson, Klopp and Pep hoping they leave) so I understand their frustration. With Mikel am enjoying the ride for the next year or 2. No trophies then we’ve got issues but I honestly think we can achieve something with him.
@amerzeb14
@amerzeb14 25 күн бұрын
​@@patchh15so after all that waffling, you still didn't answer my question.
@TundeFacus
@TundeFacus 25 күн бұрын
Flawless with a lot of flaws😅😅😅he knows nothing about football 😂😂
@BrianConlon-ng5bw
@BrianConlon-ng5bw 24 күн бұрын
Like your parents know nothing about raising children
@TundeFacus
@TundeFacus 24 күн бұрын
@@BrianConlon-ng5bw Voodoo finish your life muppet 🫵🫵
@bamba4505
@bamba4505 22 күн бұрын
​@BrianConlon-ng5bw, what a stupid personal comment to say to someone when the discourse is purely related to football, clown 🤡 🙄
@udochukwuemmanuel5360
@udochukwuemmanuel5360 25 күн бұрын
Why is the guy defending ffs🤦
@TundeFacus
@TundeFacus 25 күн бұрын
Arsenal hater’s keep crying 😂😂😂cry more 😅
@BrianConlon-ng5bw
@BrianConlon-ng5bw 24 күн бұрын
99.9% of English fans hate Arsenal....keep licking wiindows
@tomisinosabia967
@tomisinosabia967 25 күн бұрын
Flawless is right, Arteta is just a bottle job, finishing 2nd twice is good but its not a trophy, Arteta is just a Rookie manager at best, if we don't start winning trophies he has to go.
@StevenTaylor-zh2ne
@StevenTaylor-zh2ne 25 күн бұрын
He has been managing for 4 y3ars and won a trophy relax
@muraibenkarr595
@muraibenkarr595 25 күн бұрын
Errol and sarcasm city tv both talk out of their bums lmao
@rkazemi64
@rkazemi64 25 күн бұрын
Flawless does shows with Lee gunner what do you expect??? 😂😂😂 this clown always running his mouth
@milesbrittain161
@milesbrittain161 17 күн бұрын
And he’s exactly correct u mutant. Facts are facts, Artsta is 0 trophies in 4 years and that’s accepted by this fanbase. How tf at a big club do you allow a manager to go 4 years without a trophy and still keep his job, bro can’t even win a cup since the cup he won with players who weren’t his and then binned them spent 700 mil and won nothing since. 2 years in a row we should have back to back titles if we did what needed to be done in the transfer windows which we never do and Artsta binned every cup to focus on the league and still not win it. Same merry go round every year
@rkazemi64
@rkazemi64 17 күн бұрын
@@milesbrittain161 another idiot who watches lee gunner 😂😂😂😂😂
@richbowen3559
@richbowen3559 25 күн бұрын
Flawless is Flawed. His argument is weak at best, knows nothing about football and speaks utter nonsense for viewership.
@jamiegower9254
@jamiegower9254 25 күн бұрын
Oh I'm really sorry. I want to watch this but it's so negative towards the arsenal. I cannot watch this anymore. Twice today I had to stop watching you. So negative. Take a chill pill. Take a break mate. 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@BTALKSFOOTBALL953
@BTALKSFOOTBALL953 25 күн бұрын
Dan won’t challenge certain people when they chat crap about Arsenal it’s weird .. I’m not even an Arsenal fan aswell I’ve just clocked it on most streams .. his energy is different when it comes to people he can’t call out lol
@neducationalmusic4738
@neducationalmusic4738 25 күн бұрын
Hes so annoying ​@@BTALKSFOOTBALL953
@FredericFreedom
@FredericFreedom 25 күн бұрын
Yh because Dan knows they are speaking facts ​@BTALKSFOOTBALL953
@AngronWasRight
@AngronWasRight 25 күн бұрын
@@BTALKSFOOTBALL953Dan agrees with them. He just tries to stay on the fence
@ajbyatt1419
@ajbyatt1419 24 күн бұрын
@@jamiegower9254 Simple Question If Artea win nothing this season would u sack him????
@SpongePika
@SpongePika 23 күн бұрын
Rival fans are bitter 😂😂 drinking in all the tears
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