whats the name music

You also forgot Arthur Foote a 7 foot autism giant

Hacks goes to John dead eye

And if you’re using John from RDR one they’re equal because John is in his prime in that game and obviously Arthur is in his prime they’re equal

​@@S_Scalingbut it wouldnt make senee because in johns prime arthur would be 47 years old

"next time let them eat all of your brain then you'll be a genius"

@@fish.5650Arthur’s jokes 💀

In rdr2 epilogue, James Milton also has eagle eye.

@@Coopdog0108 Milton died in chapter 6 by Abigail

​@@Rce12808johns fake name is jim milton or james milton

I do think you are right about his iq being mistreated but rdr1 John outsmarted the Mexican government

@@The-Python well you are right he manipulated them

@@The-Pythonmanipulation = John Overall IQ= Arthur

@@issacnewton6943yes that’s true

Yup he prefers to hide it

Arthur x John ✅

bruh@@Killflesh

​@@Killflesh💀 💀-

It’s always been that way

Arthur x John

Arthur: you Damn full

@@anthonybastos1040fool* idk I feel like a damn nerd

@@Yo-fw3wo eu sou do brasil mano se eu errei peço desculpas

@@Yo-fw3wo i live in Brazil Bro Bud thanks

​@@Yo-fw3wothat's how we speak boah

Rdr1 John and Chapter 2 Arthur would be unstoppable.

Yee

Yes 👍

Very well

Arthur , John and jack will be the best gunslinger trio

Son 3 personajes uncle es el 1

​@@nicolasrodas4929si la teoría es cierta, Uncle es Red Harlow Pero acordate que son 4 protagonistas, con Jack Marston siendo el ultimo

​@zocra08 why 4? there was only 3 games

Same as gta

@@zocra08it’s not true bro, red Harlow is half native American

Arthur in chapter 4:😮 Arthur in chapter7: 🇺🇲🥃

@@anthonybastos1040what? He died in chap 6

@@ThatGuyCJ__epilogue I guess

I think John ends up with it when he gets taught by Rickets how to be a better dualist

you could make an argument for rd2 but rd1 john has simply better draw speed

In 1899. This is 1911 John who was faster.

​@@Table__toparthur might have not even touched the gunslingers. When you play as john you can defeat the gunslingers too. Its not proven which one of them does it.

​@@johnnystankiewicz295well that's an option while Arthur's the one who liked them all in the lore shouldn't be looking at gameplay mechanics

Ikr, much better than other channels.

@@aeroedits1543 just checked your channel out, great shorts too man. Where is that star wars one from?

Lol thanks, it was the Clone Wars animated series, i was just screwing around in capcut, thanks man.

Except his opinion was “feels like it’s better”

Mad cuz bad

wild pfp and username i hope you aint tom robb

he just wanted a glass of juice thats all guys

@@drpepper13753 lmfao 😂

With a pistol John always has both eyes open

That's 1906 John. 1911 is more experienced.

That's more of an endurance feat.

John was left to freeze in the mountains while being attacked by wolves, left in the desert with a bad wound and canonically survived a bear mauling him. I think he gets endurance

Durability i mean

​@@ZubrPolskiI mean, looking at big daddy Arthur, he looks like he's a durable guy... If u know what I mean 😋

​@@Kraekanyea lol but john definetly gets endurance he stood for about 44 second after ross and his army pelted him with bullets, ross lit the cigar while marston was still alive

I never learned because of my father dieing and my mother I don't know to be honest

At least can breathe

​@@Oliveira-tm9tnwho's gonna tell em 💀

@@_joeythegoat_ strange man

Didn't john help bonnie mcfarland Herd in rdr 1 ?

“You eat babies”

*super slowed

Thanks

This isn’t crystals

@@Mucount2 this is crystals but phonk

@@Mucount2 this is made by isolate exe

Not completely true, some pave the way for their siblings to surpass them

john beats arthur

​@@_Sw1ft_whatever helps you sleep at night

@@deepbluebeer can tell your a Arthur meat rider who only played the first game

@@_Sw1ft_depends in a shooting battle Rdr2 John loses and rdr1 John wins but in a hand to hand combat rdr2 John loses to Arthur and rdr1 also loses to Arthur

When authur says" i think i done pushed all I can" 💯

YOU’RE GODAMN RIGHT 🗿-

Hello again

@@Dudejustwork bro I’ve seen you in so many comment sections 💀

​@@Dudejustworkwtf are you doing here?

@@daddysnfoor ??? What

Arthur and John both learned to read from Dutch and Hosea

@@dankshirt854 yea, but I would still say Arthur Is smarter

Difference between being educated and being smart. Like me knowing who was the 14th American president wouldn't help me in a fight.

Nah,John with the half eaten brain is smarter,if he had his brain fully eaten,then he’d be a genius

@@fall_comic6985 yeah and Arthur is also smart, he thinks about plans before executing them, and so does John, but i don’t know. We do have to remember that Arthur is a little older and has more battle experience

He’s 6’1, Dutch is 6’3, while John is 5’11.

@@jokse.1Arthur is 6’1-6’2 the man he fought is based off of the giant men of the time who would be 6’5+

@@bbrandumbbJohn is 5’10 and Arrhur is 6’1

a horse can weigh up to 1 ton, arthur could easily deadlift 300kg

He even seems to equal forces with some men much bigger than him, like Tommy, since he was even able to throw him to the ground

Yet it takes Arthur minimal 3 seconds to push down a empty cupboard

​@@MetricRetr0he drops it instantly. This depends on whether the player does it right away, I did it in less than 1 second

@@anthonybastos1040 I meant max 3 secs if tap repeatedly btw not minimum And maybe you use pc or whatever But the point is even beta male me could just tip it over immediately and not groan like Arthur

He got shot quite a bit in the story

Arthur and hosea had to come help on the other sidr of town once they heard the shooting

Thats why John wasn't never skilled

@@Drexzzz4average Arthur fanboy 🥱. By that logic Arthur isn’t skilled either because he got captured and shot by the o’driscolls

@@RandomGoober_ daw fuck Arthur and John I don't care about this shit y'all the one gay for cowboys y'all keep debating about the shit and going back and forth

He eats babies

Arthur was in his mid 30s John was in his mid 20s to late 20s

​@@Lupo32he was 27 I'm petty sure

@@xxultrazeraoraxx561626

Arthur in rdr2 is 36, John in rdr is 38

​​​@@titanashinsuke1901 prime Arthur with no tb slams bruh Arthur was literally fighting Micah while having tb and fell of a mountain that was about 6 feet tall and dont forget Arthur was not hydrated and had his lungs almost collapsed and he still was able to fight it off like it was nothing he also fought off the us army on a tropical island which was gurama while Being sick also still and being shipwrecked while on a boat John wouldn't been able to survive being shipwrecked because he would have drowned he also saved John and in Valentine when cornwall had him hostage he was able to take out 7 to 10 men holding him hostage so he definitely was more accurate and faster at the time he also shot a dynamite that lenny had thrown during the saint denis trolley mission while it was moving that's way harder than shooting a hat out the sky that's being throw up right in front of you and also the wagon was moving so he had to have had some quick reflex's to do that also Arthur also took out 4 of the most legendary gunslingers even tho you can do these missions as John there really suppose to be done as Arthur because if you play as John doing these missions you can clearly see that John has the same motion captions as Arthur and the same hand movements also more evidence to back this up is when Arthur got captured and torched by colm he got shot with a shotgun 2 times point blank range to the mid chest and shoulder and he also got shot 2 times in the back with a rifle still trying to escape and Arthur never ate and still was able to kill most people while being injured and escape on a horse meanwhile john get captured in Mexico and can't get out and had to get saved by someone John is tough but not tough as Arthur In my opinion and to make this clear on why Arthur is stronger than John is because he is able to lift a horse off a women in a random encounter and also Arthur is able to lift dudes off the ground and choke them in mid air also battle iq and intelligence goes to Arthur bruh when has John Ever been more intelligent than Arthur bro Arthur participated in many of the gang heist and always planned and had a plan B when a plan A is messed up Arthur definitely takes intelligent and battle iq Arthur should have won mid diff I have no idea why you rdr 1 fans come on every John vs Arthur debate video and y'all use John got trained by Landon ricketts that's why he's better than Arthur when Landon only taught John a new deadeye ability and taught him how to shoot straight Arthur already knew deadeye and already learned it and mastred it before john could even learn it from Landon and who knows Arthur probably can easily destroy Landon because even tho Arthur is dead i think he was born before Landon and probably had more experience than him well I know for a fact Arthur has more experience than john because he is 10 years older than John but Landon I don't know about that and yes I know that John is 38 years old in rdr but Arthur still takes experience because John took a 4 year break

Still he didn't have it in 1911

​@@thatguy5583because it wasn't a thing like he said

John also has it but Arthur has far more experience with it as he’s been using it longer.

That ability isnt canon, it Just shows how Good Arthur aim is, also it would be way less fun if they removed the ability

​@@KedilaaWe are talking about eagle eye, not dead eye. Eagle eye is the one you use for hunting, or when you are looking for something like items, footprints etc.

In my opinion Yes, 1899 john would get disarmed but 1911 john would easily beat arthur, he had time to train his dueling and was also trained by a gunslinger how to duel better, so Yes, 1899 john would be beaten but definetly not 1911 john

A little unrelated but I wish we had a Landon ricketts encounter in rdr2 that went exactly like this. Maybe as one of the final gunslinger missions. It would have to be Arthur exclusive tho ofc to not break canon.

I dont see arthur surving mexico

@@fightingtothepoint4u732 We never got to see him go to Mexico, did we? You don’t know that

​@@fightingtothepoint4u732Since I'm rather bored of the insufferable meat riding from both sides, I'd like to propose a more fun scenario. In an alternate universe, where John and Arthur both undertake Mexico. Keep in mind: John topples a government just so he can get to one man. With Arthur alongside him, that place is glassed into little more than a parking lot.

The most dangerous gang member would be John Dutch or Micha

@@gregplantz8506nah it Arthur, no debate

​@@gregplantz8506John couldn't even take out a old version of dutch I doubt he'll be able to handle pirme Arthur

@@Drexzzz4he easily could’ve killed Dutch multiple times if he had to. He just didn’t end up needing to.

@@ArjunB5 no he wouldn't John knew that he couldn't take dutch that easy also dutch was the one that raised Arthur and John and taught them how to survive so he obviously knows there weaknesses he could have easily killed John on that mountain when he shot him 100 meters away with just a relover the only thing that saved John was them bionculars dutch definitely could kill Arthur and John if he wanted to and dutch told John it was no point even going after him anyway because he knew right after John went for him that they were gonna turn on him and go after him next they went after Arthur and dutch for all them years finally got them ,then they went after Micah then Bill Javier and then dutch and then John was the last one that's the only reason Dutch didn't want to kill John

Real

@@West_is_JelqingThanks brother

@@ConmanPlayz mane hell nah the Mexican government was easy to outsmart even Arthur would have did that but the thing is Arthur can kill someone with fist John can't

@@Drexzzz4 Ok first off have you played rdr1? I’m not being ugly I’m just asking

@@ConmanPlayz yes I have and I already know what you finna say John was cold in 1911

He wasn't never on Arthur level in the epilogue Arthur wouldn't have got pinned down by Micah also John couldn't out draw a older Micah when Arthur out drew Micah while he was sick and half way dead that proves to you Arthur was already way better than John how about 1911 John well he was rusty and he also got shot by a gang member at the start of the game he couldn't even use his deadeye at the start Arthur still was probably better in my opinion and John didn't take out Micah and dutch he only took out Bill and Javier he would have died to Micah if it wasn't for dutch

And also Arthur was one of the best marksmanship in the gang and he was probably much better when he was in his 20s

And combat easily goes to Arthur because Arthur would probably knockout John in 5 seconds

1911 John was extremely skilful but Arthur’s movement/weapons might give him the upper hand. All we know though is thaw John survived the transformation of the west

@@Deusgo101 I’d say Arthur is skillful but John has better movement and weapons

​@@Deusgo101John carries.more weapons than Arthur

Nah like in a duell it's 50/50 cause john is faster but arthur is more accurate and in a fist fight it's 70/30 in Arthurs favor like john

​@@kekkuchen20nah John is tough it's more like 50/50

Plan B : X X X X X X X X X X

Well John's plans never failed freind

​@@Snake_eyes0wasnt a plan of his to not get shot down by the ross?

@@RealTeX1wasn’t it Arthur plan not to get tb

@@RealTeX1 Nope he knew he had to get shot down by Ross in order for his family to be free if John ran or anything he and his family would've been hunting down for eternity, Maybe try actually playing the game instead of making comments on something you have no knowledge on

Jhon can breath

John can talk to his son

John can kill micah

@@Senin1900 without tb and Dutch shot Micah

​@@user-hx6gs9rq7unah he dead af 💀

I'd give abilities to Arthur, because he has a special ability where he can cough on John and give him TB 😈

Thing is even tho john has all of Arthur's ability in RDR 2 thats just for gameplay he doesn't really have them in canon and also biq still Arthur he makes different version of many plans on the fly and john always had someone do the plans for him in the Mexican revolution he didn't make any of his own he was just there to mostly help

Skill also to Arthur hes overall a better gunslinger and has been doing it for far longer so he knows more and john only got shown by rickets how to shoot properly Arthur can heard and tame horses from the very start of the game without help

@@Patatras_5325 ok fair point

@@soggyyeet9246 nah bro that ain’t abilities no more, that’s hax

agreed

hell nah

@@PurpleXXV_bro wanted Arthur dead 💀

@@-Dumberoosci he was just not a good man dude

@@PurpleXXV_ He wasn’t until the end, but you should’ve specified that you were talking about him not being a good man, instead of saying hell nah 🤠

Arthur THO LMO

That was 1899 John

​@@user-hx6gs9rq7uand just because he's an older John doesn't mean he's better I mean like all he got was a few tips from landon so.

@@LiterallyYou. Well he’s obviously gotten a lot better with a gun after 12 years

@@user-hx6gs9rq7u yes John did get better but still not as good as Arthur I mean John was just drawing random npcs but with arthur he was drawing legendary gunslingers.

@@LiterallyYou.those gunslingers that he defeated weren’t even that good. They just had an exaggerated legend. And plus 2 of them literally cheated.

Enough yt in this day, tq sir

brother dont fight? . . .do you have any brothers?

I meant for Arthur and John and no I don’t have a brother but I know brothers fight I was just saying this about the Arthur and john

Dutch and John Dutch and Arthur

Have you not read Arthur’s journal? Book smarts would go to Arthur. Chore life of just task wise it might be john.

@@jessepinkman8847 Book smarts isn't a category lol but he is more artistic and creative but John is better at talking to people considering he managed to calm down the sheep salemen.

​@@AclipsoArthur is more of a experience killer than John but in terms of shooting they both are the same

​@@Aclipsonah arthur is wayy more better talking to people even when we did missions with john Arthur was always the one who speak while john just accept the offer without thinking much or making themselves a good offer

Nah arthur> john

​@@anthonybastos1040John killed half of the van der linde gang and even killed it's leader

@@Senin1900 kill javier and bill and dutch? dutch was already old Javier is nothing compared to Arthur and John bill too so your argument is invalid because john killed many members inside arthur

​@@Senin1900John killed the remaining 3 members who are all junkies and old maniac and someone with a big ego And dutch killed himself even if john was gonna killed him dutch killed himself first

@@anthonybastos1040 john killed the top gunslingers of the van der linde gang bill javier micah and dutch who did Arthur kill worth of recognition ? 😂 John also was trained by the Legendary Landon rickets the best gunslinger in the west, he was so dangerous and was taking out gangs by himself such as skinners bandiots del lobo’s gang Williams gang Walton’s gang bollard twins gang Dutch etc Edgar Ross seeing what John was cable of saw him as threat and decided to bring an whole army with him just to take him out bro had the whole American government against him and was taking out law enforcements John slams

but he dont make it alone. bruh

Did Arthur plan the heists all alone? ​@@user-yx4eu2zf8o

RDR1 John is peak not even close..

Arthur is a marksmanship i don't know about that one bro also this ain't even his pirme I think he was mostly in his prime in his 20s or 30s because he said he use to duel people back then

No, he ENDED the Mexican Revolution.

I love both John and Arthur but John would still demolish Arthur Strength: Arthur he's bigger taller and bulkier Speed: John Slimmer and he has a faster draw speed as I will explain soon Durability: Equal John could take 2 hits to the back of the head full strength from the back of a gun Arthur only took 1 to the face he also survived being exploded on a truck while Arthurs shotgun feat is impressive John’s explosion is just as impressive Endurance: John because first John was shot in the Blackwater Heist and still got away then a few days later he gets mauled by wolves and stranded on a mountain in probably negative degree weather. Next John gets shot off a train and most likely he rolls down a small hill before he gets up and walks all the way back to camp. Next, he gets mauled by a bear. Next shot by Bill's gang. Next hit in the head full strength with the back of a gun and doesn't get a concussion. Next gets exploded on a car and finally, after all of that he gets shot like 15 times and survives for 45 seconds. Intelligence: John Different areas of expertise John is a better rancher builder and Arthur admitted that John was a faster learner than himself plus John is older, But Arthur is better at drawing so more artistic and probably better at cleaning because he cleans guns more often in the story. But John managed to calm down the sheep auction staff compared to Arthur who was threatening them. Battle IQ: John he practically carried the mexican revolution and he is better at stealth since he is able to sneak into a bank in RDR1 and has multiple sneaking sections Skill: John he was trained by Landon Ricketts, he is faster and has a lower reaction time Abilities: John Eagle-Eye, Dead-Eye, Wall Grabbing, Car Driving (with a trainer) Accuracy: Equal because John was trained by Landon Ricketts and shot a hat out of the air before that and Arthur shot bottles that John was having a little trouble doing in RDR1 Draw Speed: John (This one is my favorite) It's not even close in the ending of RDR1 John draws his gun on like 20 or so people with their fingers most likely on their trigger ready to kill John so if they were to see him draw his gun they would definitely shoot but instead he pulls his gun faster than they can react and shoot him, and considering the average time to react and click is 200 ms I would say it would've taken about 230-300 ms to react and fire their guns yet John is able to pull his gun out and still shoot a few people I'm honestly guessing that John got so skilled in this moment that his deadeye was even slower than before which is why if you don't shoot you can still last a while in deadeye Hand to Hand Arthur: It's obvious he’s bigger built and gave brain damage to Tommy Stamina: John can't run out in RDR1 and he has never been shown to run out of stamina in a cutscene Combat: John newer guns combined with better Draw Speed and Skill Weapons: John automatic Mauser Pistol or a High-power pistol also an explosive rifle Experience: Arthur, John joined the gang younger and lived longer but 4 years of his life he did Ranching AP: John explosive rifle literally obliterates things. DC: Arthur fire bottle spread is bigger which means more destruction Reflexes: John slower dead eye which means he has a faster reaction time Winner: John Marston Mid-High diff I'm sorry but John is just too dominant. (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about anything in this)

@@Aclipsopretty sure Arthur has a faster draw speed I also heard Arthur has the highest base stats

@@Aclipsoand for durability you said the same thing as endurance

@@cdy7480 I definitely didn't lol and John still has a faster draw speed it's about 60 milliseconds

​@@Aclipsohow the hell are you measuring those things? 😂 60 milliseconds are too quick to even get an actual idea.

Your high bud

​@@jessepinkman8847play the first game lil bro

​@@SoldadoHyliano141arguments of fanboys John: PLAYED RDR1 ARTHUR FEATS IN RDR2 IS MUCU BETTER AND DUTCH MENCION IN RDR2 ARTHUR IS BETTER GUNFIGHT OF GANG.

meanwhile john held off an army by himself

@@badsie1 while being filled with bullets and managing to stand tall.

​@@badsie1😂😂 cap

@@Drexzzz4 nah sorry arthur fan

@@badsie1 lmaoo how you gonna call me a Arthur fan when you in this bitch dick Riding John lame ass rdr 1 fans then y'all try to tell people to go play rdr 1 after they say they don't agree with y'all opinion 😂 y'all clowns for real and I'm not a Arthur fan I'm a red Harlow fan I played red dead relover in 2004 when it came out and for the sake I already know why your saying he's better because he killed some Mexican soilders with help meanwhile Arthur is over here taking out us soilders and taking out us army forts and he also took out a battleship on gurama and some more us soilders the only perosn that could beat Arthur is red Harlow man

Killed most of the gunslingers who are literally all either frauds or drunk and out of their prime. You can do that mission as John too btw

@user-hx6gs9rq7u Maybe. but what about the one with the ranch of pigshit?

@@adamlee537He doesn’t even use a gun lol he just throws a knife at you

​@@user-hx6gs9rq7uIf you compare the entire Red Dead franchise, Arthur has many more scenes of human speed. 1- levectus cornwall missions chapter2 2- chapter 3 mission where sean dies arthurvmata 3 grays in thousands 3- chapter 3- Arthur in the braithwhaite mansion kills 2 members 4- chapter 4-arthur kills 5 of angelo bronte's men before all the gang members draw their weapons. 5- Arthur in chapter 5 gets cornered and kills 2 guys in a guard and kills them 6- Arthur, when he returns to the normal world and goes to Lakay, kills many Pinkrtons in Deadeye 7- chapter 6 arthur kills 4 men with a sniper to steal a cart with bill These are the canonical ones. If I consider random events and secondary MISSIONS, Arthur draws his gun on Deadeye at least 17 times in the game.

Ye but I low-key think Arthur determination could overpower John's

I tried finding it but couldnt find it, sorry man

Aww that sucks well thanks for looking for it tho

Crystals

@@criminalganglandman5797thanks

@@criminalganglandman5797 the goat ty

Arthur morgan in chapater 4 wins.

John definitely he was trained by landon

​@@underratednatureArthur Morgan prime>>>: Landon Ricktess

@@anthonybastos1040 i love arthur but come on don't disrespect landon like that arthur barely defeated old gunslingers he's not even close to landon

@@underratednature Arthur prime in 1895>>> ALL Red dead

C'mon Morgan! Just fight-

i loved how in the 2nd game he still couldnt swim lol

At least jhon can breathe

That’s RDR2, John was slightly better in RDR1.

​@@rtixboi4193nah arthur slam

​@@anthonybastos1040Na john would beat arthur in 1911 he was literally trained by a gunslinger

@@ZubrPolski Arthur in hand tô hand slams

@@anthonybastos1040 ok but im not talking about h2h combat im talking about dueling

1911 john??? He would clean Author y'all need to play the first game again.

@@Dallas_isk I have actually played it recently, but this comment was prior to me playing it. Personally, I think that Arthur would probably win hand-to-hand because he's just a bit bigger than John, and from what I've seen of John's 1911 draw, it's kinda slow compared to Arthur's. Gunfight could go to anyone

@@Dallas_isk Breakdown: Arthur is prolly stronger because he's a bit bigger. John is undoubtedly faster, he's a bit smaller. Durability could go to either. Endurance could also go to either. Intelligence is about the same; John shows it in speech with vocabulary and Arthur, with wit and comprehension. Battle IQ could go to either, they have about the same experience. Skill will probably go to John, just because he has the same skillset as Arthur + farming. Arthur draws faster than John (1/4 second draw in Micah standoff). Have yet to see John quickdraw canonically nearly as fast in RDR1. Hand to hand, Arthur wins. "Abilities" is bs, because it's non canon. Final score is 3-2. Arthur wins.

@@adyens8791 sure whatever you want to say after playing rdr1 again I realized how better and more experience he had gotten since rdr2, to me rdr1 john cleans author in one scene john shoots a hat in the air 7 times 7!!!!

@@Dallas_isk you can shoot that hat as many times as you want, it's a gameplay mechanic, I was referring to canon events. In the beginning of RDR1, you can clearly see that he's not as sharp as maybe in the Mexico chapter, but after that, he goes crazy. Just think about all the shit Arthur did though, it's hard to compare them.

Arthur was educated

Arthur was actually educated, if you look at his journal you can see that.

​@@xgamerx6496they were both educated by the same man.

@@West_is_Jelqingnope. Arthur was more educated

​@@jessepinkman8847being educated and being smart are 2 different things

Wow great work, I would say that Battle IQ goes to John he was a great strategist even in RDR2 he showed it in his "Train plan" which actually worked or in RDR1 when he fought against the Mexican Army, IQ to Arthur he has a better understanding of how the world works and what's is more important, even his legendary phrase "Vengeance is an idiots game" shows that Arthur knew that Revenge will always have consequences, also he told John many times "You gotta run and don't look back" but John looked back and got revenge, two things Arthur told him not to do and we know the consequences, DC to John because of his weapons and skill and AP goes to Arthur, he's simply physically stronger, Willpower i would say goes to Arthur he had TB and in the last 3 missions Arthur even struggled to walk he had to sit somewhere because he was dying but despite this Arthur successfully rescued Abigail, gave John the chance to survive the Pinkertons and the Gang and not only that he even fighted Micah and won this fight while dying

Ok so draw speed Arthur his draw speed is literally 200millisecond and he consistently draws on 5 people without dying whilst john literally struggles to draw and shoot 2 Mexicans causing luisa to die in the process . Skill arthur hes been doing it for longer and knows basically everything john learns by mid to endgame at the start of the game without anyone teaching him (also rickets taught john only how to aim properly nothing else). Biq Arthur can make different versions of plans on the fly and his plans are mostly successful even in fewer numbers . Experience def Arthur without debate john spent 12 yrs hiding and avoiding fighting whilst Arthur spent 22 being the prime bread winner of the gang and main fighter being in all house robberies and big scores the gang does Weapons john but Arthur only missing like 2 -3 guns cuz they appeared between 1899-1911 Endurance john stood up after being shot for 7-10times Durability Arthur got shot 2 times by a shotgun from point blank 💀 Combat Arthur better h2h fighter and is extremely good with every gun he touches , hes so good he still manages to fight and win against an army whilst being steps away from dying of TB Willpower equal they both will fight to the end for their causes and both died for it in the end . Arthur wins mid-high diff Gameplay ≠ canon one is a 2010 game and the other is a 2018 game and is more realistic in it gameplay. Arthur had to walk so john could run

@@Patatras_5325 I already proved john's draw speed was 50 milliseconds if you want to read it again go ahead So, at the end of Red Dead Redemption, taking into consideration that when John left the barn the enemies had weapons aimed at him with their fingers on the trigger. They were fully ready to kill him, yet John still manages to draw his gun faster than they can react and fire. Now since the average reaction time is, 200 milliseconds or so. I would assume that it took about 250-300 milliseconds for the enemies to react and fire. Yet if you stand still and don't fire at the enemies it takes 7 whole seconds for the enemies to fire at John inside of deadeye. Which means that if you divide 300/7 It took around 50 milliseconds for John to draw his gun. Also, I have a theory on why John was so fast. I think John's willpower actually boosted his speed and reflexes so much so that 7 seconds to him was actually 300 milliseconds, and he had a must faster speed than normal. To back up this claim that it was 300 milliseconds the enemies in his perspective, weren't even moving to him either. So, this means that John has the fastest draw speed in the series.

@@Patatras_5325 skill still John cry about it fanboy John was trained by landon ricketts and has close enough experience

@@Patatras_5325 we don't know what he got shot by the first time he only got shot by a shotgun once then and he was unconscious but he managed to take 1 hit with the back of a gun before going unconscious but john took 2 which means that John could most likely do the same so its equal fanboy

The one time Arthur is in contact with a bear in the story, you can shoot it before it gets on top of you. John in the epilogue gets attacked by a bear and there’s no way around it

@@user-hx6gs9rq7u Arthur also gets shot by a shotgun twice so still john literally almost dies to 1 single shot

@@Patatras_5325 John got shot off a moving train and walked back to camp. I agree Arthur is more durable but Johns durability isn’t bad

@@user-hx6gs9rq7u true I'm not saying it garbage either he's one tough cookie but he's more the type to take damage over a period of time than everything at once

@@user-hx6gs9rq7uit doesn’t die though