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Stopmotion Head Armature | An Unwound Clockwork

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Valentin Felder

Valentin Felder

Күн бұрын

Me trying to develop a mechanical skull to give our stopmotion main character some subtle expressions... Please consider Supporting the Project:
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[English project site] www.anunwoundc...
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Sculpting and Moldmaking by Ulrich Jakob: / neatfeaturestudio
Video by Tobias Lammers: / tobiaslmrs

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@MahmurLemur
@MahmurLemur 3 жыл бұрын
Miniature mechanisms, adequate explanation, lovely camera work and stop motion. All the things I love in one package!
@curiouslittledroid1234
@curiouslittledroid1234 3 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Love the ingenuity, love the machining, love the camera work. The way you are continuously experimenting is very inspiring, and the quality of the puppets is great. As someone who aspires to do this kind of work you are very inspiring.
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, your comment is really heartwarming! :3 If you want to do this kind of work, just start doing it... That's the way I started this entire project and I'm not regretting it, even if there are hard times of despair as well... :D
@sauronsauronsauronsauron8891
@sauronsauronsauronsauron8891 2 жыл бұрын
This guy should be featured at Adam Savage's Tested! Magnificent work of art and craftsmanship! Keep up the good work Sir und viele Grüsse auch aus Deutschland!
@BRAD-ROTT
@BRAD-ROTT 2 жыл бұрын
McKinnon and Saunders heritage!!! :p Bravo dude!
@Jedi-Deni
@Jedi-Deni 3 жыл бұрын
I can only echo the previous comments because I can't say it any better than what the others have already said. That was 15 minutes and 12 seconds of AWESOME!
@dwtsn
@dwtsn 4 ай бұрын
Very cool. Way beyond my skills.
@bearshield7138
@bearshield7138 2 жыл бұрын
This was exquisite. I like the way you think I am looking forward to seeing how this all comes out
@erikbrush
@erikbrush 2 ай бұрын
Most excellent!
@atlas7309
@atlas7309 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful craftsmanship and a really cool solution
@neobeg
@neobeg 8 ай бұрын
Romans 5:8❤
@ShopDogProductions13
@ShopDogProductions13 6 ай бұрын
Amazing work, I subscribed! I wish more people did this in the states, other than Laika. I have nothing against them, I love their work, I’m just not on the west coast!
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 6 ай бұрын
Oh yes - I'm living in a country which doesn't have feature length stopmotion productions or studios at all 😢 It's a pity, I'd love to work for a bigger production one day...
@ShopDogProductions13
@ShopDogProductions13 6 ай бұрын
@@ValentinFelder I’m sorry to hear that.
@repalmore
@repalmore 3 ай бұрын
I think you have a great idea to mechanize the face. I'm no expert but the animatronics videos usually show a thin skin over a very realistic skull or almost a hard subdermal for the mechanism to work over. Thinner will allow your mechanism to be sean easier without pulling on other parts of the face. I hope you continue to work on the mechanized face. Best of luck.
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, yes I think a thin removable "skin" would behave much better. Back then I was very unsure about how to mold the thin skin in the first place and how to connect it to the skull, so we tried molding everything in place, but I find the result a bit underwhelming too... :D I'm confident with the mechanical aspects, I think nowadays I would be able to create a more organically shaped skull, but the organic aspects of the silicone molding and sculpting are still something I cannot do on that level... I'd love to collaborate with some SFX-Expert on something like this, to learn how it is done professionally... Maybe someday... ;)
@repalmore
@repalmore 2 ай бұрын
@@ValentinFelder Something that I thought of as I was reading your reply. Look into 3D printing. Not for the skin but the mechanics of the skull. I don't think FDM would be best at the sizes you are working but an SLA might be worth thinking about. The prices have come WAY down recently and produce an almost smooth product though choosing the right resin might be a challange. SLA resins can be brittle but with the right design and resin it might be just the ticket. I've only use FDM so I couldn't help with the resin choice. You can choose a very small nozzle and low layer hight to increase resolution and maybe less sanding and the part would be more durable if you use FDM. Just a thought.
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 2 ай бұрын
@@repalmore Thank you! - We actually have used SLA printing in the meantime for molds and replacement mouth parts, you can see it in many of last years update-Videos, mostly the ones about the boss character. From all 3D-prints I've seen so far this technique seems to give the best results, I was really impressed. ...I also don't own a printer myself, I had it done by someone else with an industrial setup. For me, metal still remains the best material for miniature mechanisms - it's strength, durabiblity and surface quality are just unmatched. However, I see the value of SLA printing for creating organic shapes with high precision and repeatability, and especially when combined with some metal hinges/bushings/gears it can be a really powerful tool!
@Mail2elr
@Mail2elr Жыл бұрын
Your'e absolutely the finest miniature mechanical artist of astonishing awesomeness! 😉
@markrichardhall9089
@markrichardhall9089 Жыл бұрын
Very technical solution that was always going to be challenging to control the variables. You have a wonderful skill set and are so precise but I sense that not everything technical needs to be Heath Robinson, especially when it's not seen. I'm sure you tried to load your internal armature with Vaselene to prevent silicone inclusion, using an acetone soaked cotton bud to clean areas prior to the pour that you want to bind? Layering silicone in various shore hardnesses might also give you the movement and flexibility you are looking for. Really amazing work, nothing easy is ever worth anything in life, I'm a big fan.
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Mark - Seems you know what you're talking about, those are some great ideas! :) - We tried some of these things, but ultimately we had to stop at some point and start shooting. I'm pretty sure this could have been greatly improved with a bit more time and ressources though... You're totally right, it was more a fun exercise than strictly necessary, but I like challenges and even when things don't work we can learn a lot. Thanks for your encouraging words! :)
@recreepy
@recreepy 11 ай бұрын
Truly amazed by your unique puppet. I make puppets but you’re definitely becoming a master at it.
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 11 ай бұрын
Thank you - But there's a lot for me to learn too, and I could improve so many things on a second try... ;)
@neobeg
@neobeg 8 ай бұрын
Romans 5:8❤
@nicoausnrw
@nicoausnrw 3 жыл бұрын
great work!
@boopfer387
@boopfer387 4 күн бұрын
Awesome! Wow I am super interested, what is this milling machine you have? Perhaps prototype with plastic 1st, can iterate more quickly then machine in brass? Rubber bands to pull sort of fake mucles? with foam latix, what about adding in some mechinization for the screw adjustments? stepper motor contols to automate some of this? Great video sir really got me thinking! What fun!
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 3 күн бұрын
Thank you! - Plastics, Rubber bands, Stepper motors - they are all not suitable for this scale. Plastics are too soft and machining is not quicker with softer materials, it's the precision requirements which take the time. 3D-printing is also not suitable for mechanical components of that size (unless you use crazy expensive industrial printing techniques) - Rubbery materials are basically impossible to handle and attach to things in this scale, feel free to try it. All we can do is mold things around rigid components. The Micro-Stepper motors (which are still too large) have no torque at all... It's not that easy, theory and practice are two very different things. I know this armature turned out suboptimal, but it was just an experiment anyway ;) Oh, and my mill is a Wabeco F1200.
@munkmunk4854
@munkmunk4854 Жыл бұрын
Great machinery and craftsmanship. But the end result can probably be improved if you think outside the box/"head". I mean cast small metal pieces directly into the silicone at the mouth and eyebrows, then use a mechanism with magnets inside the skull to create the movement instead. Then a thinner silicone layer can be used which should create a more natural movement. Don't know if it works in practice, is just an idea I got and wanted to share.
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you're absolutely right, I would do many things different too on a second try :D - But using magnets probably wouldn't work, on small metal parts the traction is very weak and it requires quit a bit of force to move the silicone, even thinner layers...
@neobeg
@neobeg 8 ай бұрын
Romans 5:8❤
@vsevolodbulavkin482
@vsevolodbulavkin482 Жыл бұрын
Спасибо!
@sufferedenuf
@sufferedenuf Күн бұрын
Delving into uncharted water for sure. My suggestion would be to make the character larger so you have room for the mechanisms inside. Maybe increase by 50 percent? Wouldn't that help?
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 4 сағат бұрын
Then everything would need to be larger - All sets, all props, etc... Which then would require more material and floor space, and would be harder to reach in for animation. You always have to find a viable compromise. Some movies use multiple scales, but this also has it's downsides, and building everything multiple times doesn't make it easier. ...Also 50% would not be enough, with motors you're more looking at 1:2 scale or something like this, which has a very different look than the miniatures... You really should try making something like this yourself to get a feel for the complexity of the situation. In any way, we have finished all scenes with this character by now.
@josealexisramirezvallejo7009
@josealexisramirezvallejo7009 9 ай бұрын
Maravilloso 😍❤❤❤❤❤❤ son grandes obras de arte
@neobeg
@neobeg 8 ай бұрын
Romans 5:8❤
@oNorw
@oNorw 2 жыл бұрын
This is extremely cool
@benutzteskondom4404
@benutzteskondom4404 3 жыл бұрын
Kenne dich durch spaxx tv und habe erst jetzt entdeckt, was für ein phänomenales projekt du hast, wirklich atemberaubend :o
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 3 жыл бұрын
Ha, wie cool, ein Spaxx-Fan in freier Wildbahn!
@benutzteskondom4404
@benutzteskondom4404 3 жыл бұрын
@@ValentinFelder Das war tatsächlich unter einem der Spaxx-Videos verlinkt, also dieser Kanal hier... Vielleicht sind wir selten, aber wir sind nicht tot zu kriegen!
@QARIB_JEWELRY
@QARIB_JEWELRY Жыл бұрын
Nice👌
@sonolameta
@sonolameta Жыл бұрын
I have a question. Since unfortunately I don’t have all these instruments to make these components, do you think that I can create one of these skulls by finding the pieces? If yes where? Which website?
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder Жыл бұрын
I'm afraid it's not possible to buy such specific parts - But it would be possible to commission them, but that would be very expensive since it's a lot work. (Let me know if you're interested) - You could try 3D-printing with a resin printer, that might work if the scale isn't too small. Or just stick with brass, it's not necessarily required to have a mill and all these specialized tools, I did a lot of work with handfiles, a drill and a jewelers saw a couple of years ago... But that requires some experience and time of course.
@sonolameta
@sonolameta Жыл бұрын
@@ValentinFelder oks, thank you!👍
@PieceOfMake1
@PieceOfMake1 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, my drillpress is also called Herta. Or more precisely TDFKAH (The drillpress formally known as Herta ;)
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, Wonderful!
@RENFETTI
@RENFETTI 3 ай бұрын
What books do you recommend to get to learn this level of skill?
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 3 ай бұрын
Hm, I must admit I didn't read a lot of books about the craft, but there is one which is particularly insightful for miniature metal work: George Daniel's "Watchmaking" - Obviously it's all about watches, but it goes into great detail about tools, materials and general techniques too. Other than that I got a lot of experience from trial and error, just tinkering with the materials for many years :D - And I would also recommend some KZfaq channels, "Clickspring" and "Stefan Gotteswinter" in particular"! :)
@oujdaTV1Ville
@oujdaTV1Ville Жыл бұрын
انني جد منبهر بعملك ، لدي عمل مشابه اشتغل عليه منذ سنوات .اتمنى عرضه قريبا
@giovannicesaramorim9adigan961
@giovannicesaramorim9adigan961 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome, deserved more views than you have. What is the material you use for the skin?
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! - It's a kind of silicone, but I don't remember the exact brand as we are still trying to find the best material...
@user-hm2lg4rf6d
@user-hm2lg4rf6d 3 күн бұрын
Well, why don't you just makes a mechanical stop motion skull with a jaw mechanism and a lip mechanism, and also add eye mechanism to the skull just like Laika stop-motion puppets?!
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 3 күн бұрын
"Just" - Funny. ...And I had different requirements, my characters don't have eyes and don't talk.
@user-hm2lg4rf6d
@user-hm2lg4rf6d 2 күн бұрын
Well, I was just thinking about that since the Pinocchio stop motion puppets is a hybrid between corpse bride mechanical stop motion skull and laika puppets eye mechanism​@@ValentinFelder
@user-hm2lg4rf6d
@user-hm2lg4rf6d 2 күн бұрын
​@@ValentinFelder and I was wondering why you don't just makes a stop motion skull which is a hybrid between the two different mechanical skulls you make?
@michaelmakemore633
@michaelmakemore633 3 жыл бұрын
Is this above industry standard for an armature? Aardman should take note.
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I hope they do! :D ...I'm actually developing my miniature hand armatures for batch production right now. ;)
@alexandroriccardi9498
@alexandroriccardi9498 2 жыл бұрын
Bellissimo! è da sfacciato chiederti se puoi pubblicare o condividere il file 3d della faccia del meccanismo? giusto per capire come funziona...
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't use 3D-Modelling for this mechanism, I only have some 2D-Sketches on Paper and the ones I showed in the Video... Sorry, I mostly invent these things in my mind, I only do 3D-models if I have to produce a larger batch of some parts or if a customer requests it... ;)
@alexandroriccardi9498
@alexandroriccardi9498 2 жыл бұрын
@@ValentinFelder First of all, congratulations that in addition to replying to the translated what I wrote in Italian (because I am Italian) but now I make things easier for you by writing in English. Of course I understand you very well (that you invent things in your mind and therefore you need less on paper) plus obviously that was based on the shape of the head and therefore specific to the need. I too, out of habit, draw half or the necessary one, knowing and imagining the finished product in my mind and for the same reason we realize later that we are careful. I will try to replicate the mechanism by following your video, congratulations again !!
@sonolameta
@sonolameta Жыл бұрын
alla fine ti è venuto?
@IvanPM137
@IvanPM137 2 жыл бұрын
Alguien sabe que maquinas utiliza?
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if google translate got this correctly, but I'm using a "Wabeco F1200" as my mill. ;)
@Legolightbulb
@Legolightbulb 3 жыл бұрын
Warum sprichst du nicht mehr deutsch?
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 3 жыл бұрын
Weil ich auch internationale Zuschauer ansprechen will ;) - Was ich mache ist ohnehin eine Nische und der deutschsprachige Raum ist sehr klein. Ich werde aber weiterhin deutsche Untertitel bereit stellen für diejenigen die das Englisch nicht so gut verstehen.
@jaimejonathancorreallancac91
@jaimejonathancorreallancac91 Жыл бұрын
Hola. Te recomiendo que desarmes un furby. De los que tienen boca de silicona, y veas el mecanismo, de la boca. Hay tres puntos del mecanismo que se unen a la boca de silicona del furby. Con ese mecanismo el furby logra tener expresiones en la boca. Es un mecanismo relativamente simple. Pero cumple la funcion. Disculpa que no escriba en tu idioma. Pero con tu video me acordé cuando examiné por dentro un furby jeje. Saludos desde Chile
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I will check that out! :) But I have also learned a lot since this video and my new heads work far better now too!
@lycanx900
@lycanx900 3 ай бұрын
Not his idea ,laika has been doing it
@ValentinFelder
@ValentinFelder 3 ай бұрын
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