Hi Lily, thanks for including me in your research! To clarify your query, my factory-sharpened Prismacolors shown in the video were part of a set purchased in the US in 2015 from a reputable art store (Blick's) - and the rest in the video are open stock from Emma at the Coloured Pencil Shop here in the UK. Thanks for a great video, I enjoyed everything you've covered!

The problem with counterfeit products is that if they're lying about the branding, what else are they lying about? Usage of forbidden chemicals? Health safety? Lightfastness? Some chemicals can be very dangerous.

Oh my goodness Lily. I think you have gone “above and beyond” to try and find the answers to the “Fake/Not Fake” question, so, thank you 😊 and, yes!! I DID watch all the way to the end 👍

You should hang the swatch pages in a window to see how they vary in lightfastness. It might take awhile but it would be interesting to see how both sets hold up. ~ Great video. Very informative and interesting. I also noticed in the real pencil of the blue shade, that you were testing, the core was broken inside a bit. For the price they charge, that shouldn’t be and they should be using real wood. So tired of companies cutting corners but still charging full price. Sad. 😢

If I didn't have Prismas I would totally buy the Temu ones. Considering how overpriced Prismas are for their poor quality, half price for very similar pencils is a great deal. Thank you for your relentless research, that was fun to watch!

I love my original Prisma color pencils from 20 years ago, I look for older manufactured pencils. When they moved to Mexico from Germany the quality crashed. My opinion is if you find something that works comparably and maybe better, then it doesn't matter if they are "real" don't bomb the quality and loyal customers will stick with you

WOW Lily! You went above and beyond to find answers to the fake/not fake question. Thank you so much for your diligence in this matter, even though you did not receive any concrete answers. I really appreciate the time and commitment you put into this! I, though, will take your word that they are fakes. Thank you so much! I always enjoy your thoughts and impressions!

You're absolutely precious! And the ending of the video was just way too adorable! Thank you a million times for the work that you put in!

I think i can certainly say by now that I'm binge watching your videos 😆 and I came to the conclusion that i love them so much because you tickle juuust right into my adhd hyperfocus and sharing the tiny details in what subject you are presenting that i just can't stop, and feel a sense of "knowledge fulfillment" very few craft/artsy youtubers do. You feel curious, get right to the bottom of the question and present to us so many possibilities and that is just pure passion. Very well done, Lily!! I became a certified fan of your content. Hope this gives me motivation to start putting my ideas into the world too 😍

Here's my thoughts. It's easier with mass production to replicate and mimic name brands. Prismacolor has DEFINITELY reduced their quality control. Older pencils didn't break as often and very few were off center. Newer sets I've bought at art shops/open stock have broken much easier and are more commonly off center. It's truly a lack of quality control from Prisma (and many other brands) when they change factories or simply care less to check.

Thanks for doing so much investigative work and sharing the results with us. (I hope you get your pink pencil back!) There are two things that make me doubt the authenticity of Temu pencils: the differently shaped pre-shapened points and the way the white pencil performed. I have only been on the adult coloring journey since January of this year (2023), but one of the things that I have heard over and over again is how impressed everyone is with how well white Prismacolor pencils perform vs. pretty much everyone else's white (with the exception of Caran D'ache, etc.) That aside, at the end of the day, no matter what brand name is on those pencils and no matter who made them, as you said, they're lovely to worth with and cost far less than what is sold via Amazon and other US based outlets. It's kind of ironic, really: the fear about unknowingly getting a knock off is paying a lot of money for something that isn't nearly as good in quality. Clearly it's just the opposite with the Temu pencils (assuming of course that they are knock-offs). I this case, the quality is just as good if not better, but at a much lower price. All this to say, enjoy them! Didn't you say quite a while back that they sold out? Let's hope they bring them back (same pencils, same price) so that other people can enjoy them, too.

Excellent video, what a great detective you are ! Since I'm in Europe I had to pay $198 pounds + shipping at Amazon UK, but I would buy Temu's Prismas if they were available at that time. My Prismas bough this year don't have the white under coat and they perform perfectly. Thank you for sharing the deepest of the rabbit hole !

Wow, what a journey! I ended up buying some Arrtx….and I think I’m going to stick with those 😂 I buy Prismacolor open stock at my local art store in the more “unusual” colours ( that I can’t get in any other set ) so that I can check the core is centred and the barrels aren’t split. Otherwise I just can’t justify the price of Prisma here in Australia for the quality of the pencils 😉

You have done a awesome job of investigating all of this ! I know if I ever need anything found out for me in the future, I know who I’ll come to!! Thanks for all your hard work, your awesome! 😊

I love my Prismacolors, which include those made by Berol, Sanford and newer ones. Great video, love your tenacity!! New sub. 💛

Yes, I have been waiting for this! Thank you for taking so much time to make this video!

You are to be commended for being such a great detective, Lily ! Thanks and enjoy your bargain as it seems, no matter the source , that they are 🎉❤

Thank You for your video. Didn't know Temu where selling these. When it comes to pencils, I love finding old stock, the pencils were just made better. Many of my sets and open-stock pencils (esp. Prisma) are from over 25 years ago. Truly my favorite pencil is Spectra color, which has been discontinued.

Great deep dive. I have a number of sets of prismas bought over the last 20 years. I did buy a set in the “cheap” time frame from Amazon, and they were a perfect match to my 5 year older ones (I now think I was lucky and they cost me the equivalent of £45). From what I see of your Temu pencils, my red flags are 1. wrong coloured printing on some pencils (white should be black printing always). 2. Different print quality and subtle font difference in foil printing. 3. Change in sharpening point style. 4. Core colour difference and sheen on broken core of the Temu… denotes different pigment/binder ratio. If they were a discarded test run of genuine prisma, they are still not the real deal… Prisma did not release them to their distributors as genuine prismas. The white ring could be, as you say, a test for a different wood… which I am guessing failed to meet their “standards”. I wholeheartedly agree with what you said that if they are Chinese made, they should just slap their own brand on them… but I think they already have in Arrtx (which I really enjoy using). I wait for the 150 Arrtx. Bit like Kalour now expanding to 520 (cough, cough…. Brutfuner). At the end of the day, if they perform nicely and you are happy, for the price they are close enough. I collect pencils and cycle through using the 18 sets I currently have, prisma are not a standout just in the rotation dependent on paper or if I want to relax in a colour along.

Great follow-up! Did Prismacolor ever say what wood they are currently using? Who knew colored pencils could take us all down such a mysterious & interesting rabbit hole!

What a hero - thank you for a riveting and informative journey - what webs the manufacturers weave eh? Far more entertaining than a TV consumer programme and I if I ever find myself in trouble I'll be calling on you as my defence lawyer 🤣

Great work Lily! Thanks for doing such a thorough job! ❤

my man brought me the full set of Prisma Color 150 from USA and they are coming tomorrow . we got charged £49.98 fees by parcel force ....meh . i will be getting them from Amazon in future.had to watch this again, thank you for your rabbit hole deep dive xxxxxx . hope the croma's are working out for you xxxxxxxx🥰

You deserve an Oscar for this video!❤

Lily, u have done a fabulous job trying to get too the bottom of this quest, u have a wicked sense of humour and I love your videos, also always cheer me up so I was delighted for u that u went viral on your ‘are they fake’ video! Well done u!!🎉🎉🎉 p.s I got to the end 😂xx

Maybe this will help a little in all your research. I live in the US and purchased all my Prismas open stock from Blick and Michaels. It took about two years to get the complete set. The are about 4 years old now. They all had the very stubby sharp point and no white undercoat. In recent months I have been purchasing replacements for the future from Blick and all have the same stubby ended point and no white undercoat. I keep them in a tightly closed plastic container and when opened you still get a slight cedar smell. They are not my favorite pencil but of all I have, Holbein, Luminance, Lightfast, Polychromos, Castle Arts, I can blindfolded pick them out by lay down feel. I admire your tenacity and always enjoy your videos.

Great video It was worth the wait. You said it at the end, "If you want my opinion i think theyre fakes" lol. I agree but i the temu version doesnt seem to be a bad pencil.. i would have kept them too, specially with lilac & lavender set. Thank you for your extensive research and time 💜💜💜

Amazon frequently has imitation products, even from Amazon directly. That's why I never buy anything where I'm concerned about origin from Amazon, or certainly not Temu or any other mass marketplace. I have had Prismacolors since I was a kid and even have 3 sets of their far superior predecessors, Spectracolors, from my dad. If you want real, current Prismacolors of best quality, you really need to get the ones made and sold in Japan. The others are barely better than rip off versions, unfortunately.

I commend you for spending so much time and researching this as much as humanly possible. The only thing I can say about Prismacolor is that they are inconsistent, but I still love them. I’m in the US, so they are easy to get. I have bought so many over the years, and have never seen a white undercoat on any of them. From the tests that you done what you have shown, I would say that the Temu set are indeed fake. But they seem to be very good fakes. So at the end of the day, if you enjoy them I say celebrate another good set of pencils for your collection. 😅

thank you for spending so much time doing this. That was a lot of time and work.

Wowzers!! I LOVED this! My only complaint is that my tea has gone cold 🤣 Thanks So much for doing all the hard work and investigation. In the end, you got a bargain in my eyes bcos they are lovely pencils. Also, I cheered when you brought out the 126 set of Arrtx. I'm really glad you got them- I love mine. Thanks again for a great investigation- it was really interesting to learn so much.

Thank you so much for sharing this extremely interesting video. Really appreciate how very thorough you always are with all the comparisons that you do. Always enjoy your videos and huge thank you for all your hard work and time you spend on making us these videos. Give Robbie a cuddle from me too lol ❤️

This was SO thorough, Lily! I will share with my stream. Did you try to layer/blend to see any differences, and also, were all the cores “centered” correctly? (I always check open stocks to see if the cores are centered). I might have missed the ‘core/centered” question. Thanks so much for all the research!

I didn’t think I was going to be able to watch this whole video. But here I am at the end. You did a great job lol

Always buy from your local art supplier. I never buy professional items from cheap websites & never from overseas in case of scamming counterfeiters. I’ve used Prismas for years from my local suppliers & have never had a problem. Cheaper prices are the first giveaway to encourage more customers. Plus ordering by mail risks your pencil leads breaking inside whilst the parcel is being “thrown” around in the post, causing constant lead breakages whilst sharpening wasting half your pencils before you even start. Your pencils are an investment, so be careful they are not counterfeit items as there is with most brand name products. Pay a bit more for the real deal from the real dealers so you are getting the real deal yourself!

Wow this video was incredibly in depth and they basically still gave you the runaround lol! The Temu pencils seem really good, I don't have the Artxx pencils but they seem the same to the Temu ones. It's a fact that Prisma quality control has gone down the drain over the years. Still though... Prismacolor where exactly are you "recycling" your factory rejects? because I wouldn't mind taking them. 😂

Lovely review, very detailed thank you! I have been in love with Prismacolors for a long long time, I still have a few of my original set that are the Eagle Berol pencils. They are still my favorites and of course I don't use very much!

Something to consider with products made for different countries markets is that the materials may be of different composition. For instance the uk market pencils may be lead free in the paint on the outside of the pencil, and they may in some cases may have different pigments. Lead is easy to test for with an at home swab. If you leave those test sheets in the sun for a week or two, cheaper dyes and pigments may bleach out considerably. So the temu may be real, just different…❤

Hi Lily well done. My prismas were the same as Sarah's ones. My ex-husband (who is Chinese) used to say Chinese will find a way to may copy's of everything lol. Just enjoy your box of better ones thats all you can do and hope that who ever is making them will come out of the woodwork and make their own who knows!! They may have already right under our noses 😮 xx

I bought Prismacolor Premier for the first time. I bought a set of 150 Pencils at Temu for about 125€. The box arrived 4 weeks later. It included the lilac and lavendel pencils. All the Pencils are in perfect condition with no cracks and well centered. The quality seems good, I cannot compare as I have no other Prismacolor. I have Caran d Ache and Polychromos, they perform just as well. After watching your video’s I think these are genuine Prismacolor, but an older Edition. It was not a bargain and I would have It much sooner at Amazon Europe. But overall I am happy with the amount of beautiful colors, which are too expensive in Caran d Ache or Faber-Castell. What do you think? Thank you for your work!

Hi Lily and thank you for taking us down the rabbit hole with you. I’ve never been so engaged in a video about pencils! 😅😉❤️

I so appreciate all your hard work with research and investigation, especially since the end result was not as conclusive as you would have liked. You do a fantastic job with all of your posts. Ultimately, my thoughts and opinions would be.... unless I was worried about authentic colorfast qualities for each pencil respectively, I would focus on the other characteristics of the pencils to make my decision to keep or return. How well they blend, the amount of layers that can be achieved, the durability of the pencil itself, etc. If all of these are acceptable, and taking into consideration the value in relation to how much you spent, the Temu pencils are a really good purchase and will add nicely to your collection. And dare I say, a repeat purchase? Cheers!

It sounds like your guy in China is correct. I remember in 2018 when the production in Mexico was expanded the wood and cores were quite a bit inferior and many friends in the USA said to look at the box and make sure it said made in USA because the Mexican versions were so much worse. I think they have since improved some and found more stable wood that doesn't disintegrate so fast when sharpening the pencils. I think you got real Mexican Prismacolor pencils that were probably made a bit after the disastrous ones, as the wood looks pretty decent. I was thrilled that the Temu ones are not Cedar as I have a Cedar allergy and have to wear gloves when touching the USA made ones, which is not fun. The Temu ones look decent and I might try to get them if I ever finish the fish game and get a 40% off coupon. Thanks for doing all that research too!

Herculean effort!! Fakes, probably, but what a bargain for a pretty close to the real thing, Prisma. If I needed them I would buy them. You are right. Whoever is making them needs to market as their own brand. Did you feel the Arrtx were a good alternative to Prismas as a budget option? TIA😊

Such a great video Lily , blimey well done 👏! I think you’re right , I think they’re fakes ( good ones ) they seemed a lot closer in colour to the Arrtx , but there’s really not a huge amount in it !!! Thanks for jumping into all this , I found all the info you got back from the different manufacturers so interesting! Xx

Fab video and well done you for all the research. It’s so unfair and annoying that in the UK the price for Prismas is so inflated. I love your bit at the end, ‘…think they’re big fat fakes’ ha ha you’re so funny Lily xx

Great deep dive! I almost thought my cheaper Amazon set were fake because of the splintery look wood quality and poor printing on the outside. Thanks to your video I now don’t think they are. I did the white comparison against my years old original set and colour comparison tests and the pigment looks and feels exactly the same. I do think Prismacolor have used cheaper wood and printing methods than years ago (a bit like how biscuits feel smaller than they used to 😃) but the pigments are just as nice as always. Mine don’t seem to have that white undercoat though.

Wow! You did quality research. Kudos! I live in Washington State, US. My oldest Prismas date from 2017 or so. I have bought other open stock Prismas over time through various art/craft retailers, and in small sets from Amazon and Walmart relatively recently. None of my Prismas show a white undercoat. If I do spot one, I’ll post back. By the way, American basswood is a deciduous, tall growing tree which is often grown in parks and lawns. Mature trees bloom late in summer, with yellow, tulip shaped blooms. Liriodendron tulipfera. I appreciate your in depth look at Prismas.

The ballet community has known sellers in China for counterfeit ribbon and elastic. Essentially labeling items as Bloch or sansha brand toe shoe ribbons and elastic, when in reality what you're getting is ribbon and elastic for childrens crafts, and definitely not wearable on clothing. It wouldn't be difficult for them to apply a label on each pencil.

Thnx so much for doing this video, tbh if it were me and I had paid £198 for the 'Genuine' Prisma pencils and they are under performing in various ways I would be returning them to Amazon, this is the only way that Amazon will bring it's ridiculous prices down to actually match what could potentially be substandard rejects sold as Genuine. In no way am I saying that Amazon know they are not genuine, that is in the hands of the seller, not the buyer. In fact you have now confirmed to me that I would not be being duped if I bought the Temu pencils, because there is no way as a pensioner I can afford and warrant to myself the use of Prismascolours from Amazon at the scandalous price of £198.00. TFS

Sherlock Holmes would be proud of you!!! Great video. Xx

I think the colors are fine, it's how well the pencil colors and blends. Is the 'lead' hard or soft. What is the price per pencil compared to the products quality. Thanks for all the work you did on this. My opinion is if you get a good quality product at a low price, buy it. You can always buy some individual white Prisma pencils later.

Great job on your testing and asking all of your questions on this topic. You have given a lot of information and insight to this 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Thanks so much Lily for all the work you put into this video!!! Lots to think about x

Thank you so much for these videos. While you haven't answered the main question to your own satisfaction, you've answered it enough for my purposes: That these pencils are a decent quality on a par with the official item at a far cheaper cost. Thats fine by me 🙂

Hi.. I did some comparison from my Amazon 150 Prismacolor set (purchased from USA Amazon Official Prismacolor seller) to Bruntfuner 120 Temu set, and the Bruntfuner were a very very close match and more smooth. The BF pigment load was not 100%, IMO. but very close. I think it's a worthy contender for the price.

Amazing job! I personally would love to see the swatch comparisons of your original set from years ago, as those are presumably the realest of the real.

Well done Inspector Morse! I'd be surprised if anyone admitted to making fake pencils but one question I have is, why isn't the market flooded with these big fat fakes? x

Are all the real prismacolor made in one factory in Mexico, could the variation be explained by different factories? And being as how real prismacolor are so terrible at quality control it wouldn’t surprise me if different batches had colour variations. It seems odd to me that prismacolor couldn’t give you a straight answer about whether they have a white undercoat or not, that hardly seems like the secret pencil recipe. Thanks for these interesting videos.

Hi, can I just say a big thank you for an excellent comparison video, after watching about a million on colouring pencils I found yours to be the best! not only because you took the time to answer questions and do a really in-depth comparison but also because you told us how they smell 🤣😂🤣I love my pencils to smell like proper pencils so going on that I have now ordered the arrtx ones from amazon. thank you for all the time, effort and expense you have put into this video. excellent! Have now subscribed too. 🤩 Warmest wishes from wet soggy Penzance in Cornwall.

The only pencils that seem to have the white undercoat is the pink and orange neon, i have several and they are the only colors that seem to have this. It may be a quirk of the red neon pigment that needs to have a special handling. My green neon that is no longer made do not have the white undercoating. Maybe a safety issue with some of the neon pigment.... This also might explain their careful non answer to you using the proprietary fallback language.

What a fabulously interesting set of videos. I do have a set of Prismas but I bought them on Ebay second hand, so who knows about those! I have also purchased some open stock on Ebay and noticed that the paint on the barrels don’t match! Hey ho a real can of worms. I heard a couple of years back that there are lots of quality control issues with these pencils and at one point they were being made in the USA and Mexico but no longer. Some of my pencils have Mexico printed on them and some don’t. I’m happy with what I’ve got but probably won’t buy any more as they are not my go to pencils! Shock! Horror! Thank you for all your hard work on this one. It felt just like Panorama. Many congratulations on having such an awesome channel.

Very interesting video! And the amount of work, impressive. 👏 Personally, I don't trust Prismacolors *at all*. I'm in Europe so the only time I've seen Prismas in person was over 20 years ago. However, having been in the coloured pencil space for a good number of years, I've seen so many inconsistencies reported with 'real' (bought from reputable companies in the US, including DB, JA) Prismas that I can't believe people rebuy them! And not only external things, but actual core colours & compositions even in pencils bought in multiples at the same time. I wouldn't trust that pencils bought from Amazon are real either, especially when it comes to Prismas. The white coating thing is intriguing. It could be that they're actually sourcing whatever wood they can get rather than be committed to a certain type. Or that there's something in their process that makes the casings unpredictable (like poor material management). It would explain why some 'real' pencils have it and some don't. There's also a rumour/theory I've heard that the pencil cores are made in a limited number of factories (mostly in China) and then shipped to where the pencils are assembled. This is not a Prismacolor specific rumour, but if they did this, it would explain why very similar cores can be found in different pencil brands and why there are periodic changes in colours/compositions. All in all, who knows. There's too much chatter about fake Prismas being sold everywhere and too much inconsistency in the 'real' product that everything is possible.

Such a great video and well done on all your research. Really interesting . My prismas are also from before they were making fake pencils .

Oh my, well done you. You most certainly did your homework and then some. Thank you for that. Yes, I watched to the very end 😉

I never thought for a minute I would be able to watch an hour long video on pencils! Great research, you kept the video interesting and I even rewound it a few times. I hope this doesn't keep you up at night as I am sure you are about sick of these pencils but I had to tell you that I have a 72 set, no white undercoat and after looking at each end of the pencil and ONLY the "aquamarine" showed the bleed through on the end. So let's just take it as a conspiracy against pencil lovers and once again we won because we like the fake ones better in some cases 🎉😂 Also I am a bit ignorant when it comes to converting pounds to dollars, thanks to Google I will know in a minute. I am also going to see what I paid for mine over here. If I find any shocking price difference it will be interesting. Thanks for the crazy info it was useful to say the least.

I appreciate all the hard work you did on this topic! I think as long as you are happy with them and got them at a great price as you did…..ENJOY THEM❤

Thank you for both of your videos on the "are they, aren't they" question. I can't justify buying Prismacolor at my level of art, but I do aspire to own a set one day. In my opinion, Prismacolor haven't helped themselves by being so cagey and ambiguous in their replies. Maybe that's deliberate. Maybe they need to protect their 'official' premier brand by not revealing they also benefit from third parties making 'unofficial' versions, maybe under licence, especially when the (let's call them) 'alternative Prismacolors' are not at all bad to use. There will always be actual fakes, of course. Who knows the answer? The research you did was really interesting and I like your clear explanations too. You have a new subscriber 🙂

Maybe a combo of hands and face. Hands when actually speaking to something you’re demoing, then back to your face when you’re not. Just an idea. I love your channel:)

Thankyou so very much for going so deeply and thoroughly with your research😊😊 and love the last 5 seconds❤❤

I purchased the 150 set of Prismacolor from Amazon a few months ago for $ 149. Almost 85% of the pencils had severe off center cores. I contacted Newell and they sent a new set which I haven't even opened yet. Nobody knows which sets are authentic -real or fakes. My opinion is that if I'm happy with the results of the brand of pencils I'm using it doesn't really matter who made them. It seems that paying a high price does not mean you're getting a pencil worthy of that high price. Happy coloring everyone.

Wow! Very much appreciated!

Geez!! People are all about true crime, but THIS is the real shit!! Holy moly, you spilled the tea and I’m still spinning from one hundred plot twists!! 🤯🤯🤯 I love it!! ❤ Thanks so much for all the hard work!!

Thank you for creating this video! Initially I had bought my Prismacolor open stock from a reputable art store here in AUS and due to my impatience I decided to buy from FB Marketplace as I saw a deal where the seller was offering it up to $60 for a 150 set and the catch was that some of the pencils were missing. I thought since this is my first set it should be fine I can purchase the missing ones in store. But it never occurred to me that there would be counterfeit Prismacolors. The only thing thats bothering me now is the smell that continues to linger but aside from that I don’t really mind. It was a steal of course 😂 Lesson learnt though and I won’t do it again. 😅

A couple of points I'd like to make here, one, I have been using prismacolors since aprox 1988-1989 and I have had more than one set plus open stock pencils which I know are real, and there are color differences and texture differences occasionally even in 2 of the same color. As to the white coating on your pencils, Staedtler puts a coating like that on their ergo pencils and it's done to protect the pencil in some way, it's supposed to keep the core from breaking I believe so it may be that with the breakage issues in prismacolors due to the soft core that they are now doing something similar. If the colors and texture is as close as those are I would suggest that those are real prismacolors and not a fake brand. The fakes are usually far more obvious.

Your conclusion at the end is the real story behind the Temu pencils. Your guy in China probably was telling the truth, once again. They don't make the Prismacolors, they just stamp the name on them and sell them as Prismacolor has instructed them to do. Cast offs, bad runs and test runs cost Prismacolor money. Since moving operations to Mexico, they've had a lot of consistency issues. Prismacolor can get some money back on shipping the goods over to China and having them sell them. It also explains the cold chill responses you received from Prismacolor. Thank you for all your hard work on this video!!!

This year, I bought a full set of "Polychromo"s through Amazon, which failed to match a set I already owned. White primed undercoatings, mismatched hues, letter stamping misprints, and wax blooms. As I prepared to return them to Amazon, I saw they had been sent to me through China.

Fantastic video Lily 👏 👏 These are my favourite pencils, I've got seven full sets of 150 (don't ask!) ranging through many years of their production and print styles on the barrel. I also have a set of the 72 tin of fakes you're talking about. 100% you're right about the printing being better on them, but some colours of core and barrel are totally wrong, especially barrels that are entirely different on mine to yours. They aren't as buttery or soft...in a 'big, fat, fake way'!! Also, again you're right, Brian is wonderful, I buy all my singles from him. Keep up the awesome job you do 🥰

Very interesting video. I would still be interested in seeing a swatch comparison of your 20 year old Prismas compared to the new "real set" to see how much variance there is there. I have Laurentian pencil sets manufactured over several decades starting in the 1960s in different countries as the company moved their manufacturing, and there are significant differences in some of the actual colours of pencilsthat are coded with the same names and numbers. By the way, I am in Canada and none of my Laurentians, Berols or Prismacolors have the white undercoating including a 72 set of Prismacolors I bought in the last couple of years on Amazon. Thanks for the video. I really enjoyed watching it.

Are we operating under the assumption that the Amazon Prismacolors are authentic? Because it almost seems like there are many fakes out there and the Amazon ones are sus too.

Random artist viewer here, your vid got recommended and I was curious. Here in Latin america we only have resellers and amazon sometimes is as expensive as the resellers. Between 2016-2018 was the debacle of drop down in quality from prismacolor (and I have some crooked leds in my pencils that makes them hard to sharpen without breakage) but since they changed the lid design is even harder to find big sets (130-150 are an impossible sight). Taking the info you got and comparing what I saw on the market here, theres a huge probability that cheaping the manufacturing cost had more casualties, lowering the stock available in their retail, but giving tons of recycled products. Temu prismas could be "oficial" prismas that didn't match the standard by a new factory they were contacting. Also, Im sure the boxes are made in china, I don't have evidence, neither doubts, is the cheapest place worldwide for paper and cardboard printing. The access to a oficial box is at reach

Great video, thanks!!! I would like to have seen how they blend. Sometimes colors are close but their blend ability and build up lack severely.

Wow, you spent plenty of time and effort on this, thank you!

Wow lily congratulations on the mega views ❤️❤️❤️

thank you for a wonderful in depth review - I agree they most likely are fakes and it saddens me that there are so many fake products out there, especially if the purchaser thinks they are buying ‘real’.

Thank you so much for all this effort!!!! You really put a lot of work into this. Sounds like if you like the colors you might as well get Arrtx. I have avoided using Prismacolors, and any pencils saying they are wax based, because I don't like my paper feeling like I coated it with a candle. Do the Arrtx leave the paper feeling like it has a heavy coating? Maybe it's just how I color though....

Wow you have done a lot of work to try and figure it out. Have you tried the prismacolor scholar pencils? I got some years ago and i can't tell the difference in quality to the premier. Some of the colours are slightly off and others totally different. I've added them to my premiers to extend my colours even more. I have about 185 prismacolor colours.

I waited forever before I was able to buy my first set of prismacolor and then read and article that they were discontinuing my two favorite colors so I rushed out to finally buy my set and am so heartbroken over the lilac. You can’t find the color anywhere! I read that they can’t get some of the ingredients for those colors is why they were discontinued so if you have a set laying around and you don’t use the lilac or the lavender, I will happily take them off your hands!!! 😂❤

The difference that pops out to me, which you may have mentioned in the other video, is the white underneathe the color paint at the sharpened line/edge. Like the Holbeins have, and also the cheaper pencil brands have.

I have Prismacolour (Berol) from my high school days. They are wonderful. My newer ones are good. But I have to tell you, I love Derwent colored pencils the best!! They are from the UK!! ⚘

Excellent video, as always, Ms Investigator 🧐! Interesting info about the paint bleeding into the wood, and I can't believe that Chinese guy actually ADMITTED they made fakes!

Great video ❤ thank you so much. I think you gave us enough information for us to make our decision with what we are ok with! Hahahaha love your ending❤❤😂😂

When things like cores etc.. are made, they are judged to be the same colors if they fall in between a min-max color scale. Those colors both may look totally different and fall between the accepted range. Same for tube barrel, and core!

Thank you so much for your video. I thought I am crazy when I received my set from a third party seller and realized that the pencils are fake though they look pretty close to the real ones. But then I found your video and realized that I am ok. 😅😂 But whenever you try the real ones you will never forget that buttery feel. My fake ones do not give that feel. If it is not a secret, what have you done with your fake set? I am really now ar a loss: should I return them and pay extra for the delivery or keep them. The pencils are not bad but they are not prismas. And I bought them at 115 US dollars approximately.

I can hear the rain 😂I keep looking outside but the sun is shining here 😂😂😂 interested in this waiting for the outcome 😼

thank you for doing this! ❤

I know this video is 10 months old, but wanted to add, I have the 132 set I purchased from an estate sale in 2019. My set is the tin with the girl in the white dress. Mine do not have a white undercoat on the barrel paint. And they do have the telltale "cracks".

Holaaa¡¡¡ yo soy de México y me gustaria compartirte mi experiencia en cuanto a esta maravillosa y sobrevalodara marca. Prismacolor es una marca de lujo aqui en México, a pesar de que tienen su gama escolar, son pocos los niños de nivel escolar básico que pueden acceder a ellos, ya que existen muchas otras marcas económicas. Aún así, existe un gran sector de dibujantes mexicanos que utilizan prismacolor premier y escolar solamente por el precio, a pesar de no ser resistentes a la luz mucha gente piensa que son de gama profesional, y aunque sí, son colores geniales no llegan a ser profesionales... en México podemos comprar una caja de 150 colores de 80 a 115 libras, comparado con los precios de los faber castell policromos o carandache si es muy conveniente para los dibujantes mexicanos, una caja de policromos esta en 300 libras aproximadamente y una de carandache en 400... y yo sé que pensaran que es una bendición poder comprar los primacolor a ese precio y si, lo es... pero hay una cosa curiosa, en México no encontramos lapices sueltos en tiendas, hace algunos años si los había, pero después dejaron de surtirlos, aveces los encontraba por amazon y en una ocasión me di a la tarea de buscarlos sueltos por todo México y resulta ser que no encontre, igual me comunique a prismacolor y su respuesta fue que no era conveniente para los establecimientos comprar suministros sueltos. Entonces aunque prismacolor se hace en México no es aqui en donde más se vende. Porque aunque podamos comprar una caja a la mitad de precio de lo que ustedes la compran aún asi es mucho dinero para nosotros los mexicanos. Por esos tiempos me di cuenta de que en Aliexpress habia una cantidad enorme de marcas de colores a precios muy económicos, al mismo tiempo enconcontre varios videos de KZfaq en donde hablaban de prismacolor falsos y colores chinos excelentes, etc, etc.... asi que hice mi propia investigación, compre varias cajas de marcas chinas: Nyoni, frutffuner, entre otras y me decidí por comprar colores sueltos de prismacolor en Aliexpress, especificamente blancos y negros.... despues de hacer pruebas descubri cosas interesantes: las marcas chinas son buenas? Si, pero no al grado de los prismacolor, aun les falta algo en su formula para poder considerarse similares. Considerando una situación que aveces nos crea confusión, en China todo lo que se fabrica es falso???... no, China maquila a miles de marcas de todo el mundo y también China fabrica cosas de increible calidad, pero por lo general lo que se fabrica falso es de empresas que no cumplen con varios requisitos de calidad, es decir, si en China se fabrican prismacolor falsos son de muy baja calidad, como es el caso de las cajas de 72 que han aparecido por ahí, en donde es muy notorio que son falsos, ya que los lápices son delgados, los colores nisiquiera coinciden, etc... a México entra una gama escolar falsa china de 24 piezas y es muy notorio que es falso, igual pasa con los faber castell escolares y cada año nuevo escolar podemos ver a muchos vendedores vendiendo esos colores que con solo ver las cajas te das cuenta de que son falsos.... entonces, los prismacolor que vende Temu o Aliexpress son falsos??... no, como dijiste en tu investigación prismacolor no puede vender directamente en ciertos países, pero los intermediarios si, y muchas marcas por medio de estos revendedores es como logran entrar a diferentes mercados, eso significa que amazon no puede comprar los prismacolor directamente a la fabrica para venderlos en tu país, le compra a un revendedor y por eso es que el precio que ustedes pagan es muy elevado. Ya que aunque Amazon es una gran empresa funciona por regiones, lo que vende barato por ejemplo en Mexico solo es para México, si alguien de Perú o Ecuador quiere comprar al mismo precio que en México no es posible, no tiene ese libre tratado entre países, por eso es que los prismacolor los tiene que comprar a revendedores, es decir, practicamente Amazon es una tienda que te revende productos de cualquier vendedor y tiene una gran logistica. Por alguna razón Aliexpress y Temu han podido romper esa barrera que existe entre países y de manera muy conveniente han hecho tratos directos con fabricantes de todo el mundo y utilizar su red de dustribucion y logistica gigantesca que tienen para surtir productos a todas partes, muy probablemente tu caja de prismacolor de 150 colores se hizo en éxito y luego no fue a China y luego a tu pais, no, muy probablemente tu caja salio directamente de México a tu país y eso explicaria lo mal que te llego y con la poca protección, porque después de que estuve investigando todo esto y que me convencí de que lo que vendian no era falso hice varias compras de Aliexpress, algunas cosas fabricadas ahí y otras que decian ser de Alemania por ejemplo y los paquetes venian asi: los colores chinos venían muy bien protegidos, con hule de burbujas y notoriamente traian un embalaje Chino, compre unos lapices sueltos de la marca steadler que es una marca alemana y venian super bien cuidados, con bolsas de aire y en empaques elegantes y los prismacolor venian en una bolsita de prastico, sin ninguna especificación ni cuidado de nada... no te parece curioso? .... en fin, después de probar varias cosas llegue a la conclusión de que son originales. Para mi aún es más conveniente comprar los prismacolor en mi pais, cajas de 72 o 36 que en Aliexpress, pero si compro varias cosas de otras marcas en Aliexpress. Finalmente, aunque amo los prismacolor porque fue con los que me inicie en mi arte del dibujo es muy decepcionante la calidad, me gusta usarlos pero me enoja que se rompan... en fin, espero no haberte aburrido con mi historia, saludos¡¡¡

Revisiting…..I watched another video and the channel owner placed both boxes one above the other. The wing of the butterfly is slightly over the edge of the fake box. She then went on to show the differences in the pencil colours. That was clear, the fake from Temu and the original from Michael’s I think it was. She tested the pencils with older Prismacolors from her stash, then against the pencils of the new boxes.

I feel like you should re-name yourself to Sherlock Homes at this point!😂 Some mysteries are never meant to be solved!😉 You have certainly gone above and beyond to find the truth. Either way I wish they were still on Temu, as I'd buy some at that price! I refuse to spend nearly £200 on Prismas that crack and break all the time. Thanks for all your hard work on the research on these! Very interesting investigations. ❤️👍