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Arvanites, Greek or Albanian? The truth! Eng. subt - Gjurmë Shqiptare

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Күн бұрын

Programi "Gjurmë Shqiptare" përfshin një audience të të gjitha moshave. Përfshirja e temave historike, zbulimi i zonave të ndryshme, brenda dhe jashtë Shqipërisë, promovimi i pjesëve të fjetura, shpalosja e kulturës, trashëgimisë, ndërthurur me të sotmen bën që audienca e përthithur të jetë e konsiderueshme dhe gjithëpërfshirëse. Një pjesë e temave historike apo edhe e zonave që trajtohen në Gjurmë Shqiptare nuk njihen ose janë trajtuar përciptazi në historiografinë shqiptare.
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@ExpatTraderFX
@ExpatTraderFX 6 ай бұрын
i was born in Albania ( Tirana ) but escaped durring the communist era and lived in Greece as a young boy and eventually left to America but during my stay in Greece we stayed in Athens with a family that descended from Albania hundreds of years ago arvinites and it showed me that we are deeply rooted in Greece as a people from long ago. long live Albania! komb e vjeter with deep roots in history
@ronaldotto534
@ronaldotto534 3 ай бұрын
I hope you live amongst our people:) me I can’t find one in my community:(
@Aleks25482
@Aleks25482 3 ай бұрын
Never forget your roots brother❤❤❤🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
@AferditaShega
@AferditaShega 3 ай бұрын
@@ronaldotto534 I have a sister living on the Greece even now she take care old people they all the time say they are Arvan it but the same time. they hate Albania because the big country in Europe and USA back, then decide to separate them from their roots, but they stay on their land that’s why they mad with communism system and leaders back then
@ronaldotto534
@ronaldotto534 3 ай бұрын
@@AferditaShega te haristis la mia Sorella:) I was disjointed from my tribe because my ethnic Albanian grandfather died too early and never got to pass down our family history. Greci, Campagna was our comune
@giorikass1
@giorikass1 3 ай бұрын
@@AferditaShega HHAHAHAHAHA THE GREEKS SEPARATE FROM THERE ALBANIAN ROUTS?????? AHAHHAAHHAHA when the italians was waching drown in boats and werent allowing you to go there , THE GREEKS TOOK YOU ...... DOGS
@mentorzeneli9147
@mentorzeneli9147 Жыл бұрын
Te lumt Marin bravo ! Emision i shkelqyer !
@meshari-sx7gg
@meshari-sx7gg Жыл бұрын
Zgjohuni, shkollohuni, VEPRONI! 💪❤️🖤🕊️☀️
@user-kz6co6wy2v
@user-kz6co6wy2v Жыл бұрын
Me u shkollu kot se ne libra vec rrena kena msu 😅
@stolgos8964
@stolgos8964 6 ай бұрын
I am Arvanite from both my parents as well as all of my grandparents side. Arvanites are and have been Christian Orthodox, former citizens of the Eastern Roman / Byzantine Empire. As was the case with all populations / ethnicities of the Balkans and Asia Minor before the Ottoman conquest. I also understand quite a number of words Arvanitika from the years I grew up with my grand parents and I am aware that there are similarities to the Tosk dialect spoken in the southern parts of Albania, which by the way is populated by Greek minorities as well. My Arvanite ancestors had to flee from their city located in today's Southern Albania (Βοσκόπολης, today Voskopojë) in 1772 because it was repeatedly attacked and burnt down by moslem Shqiptars and their Ottoman masters. They escaped to Thrace (today's European part of Turkey) for a better future. Unfortunately, one more time they had to suffer: This time from harassments and prosecutions, murders from the Young Turks in the early years of the 20th century. Belonging to the Christian Orthodox population they had to leave as refugees into the boundaries of today's Greece after the end of the war with Turkey and exchange of populations in 1923. Never ever my Arvanite grand-parents did consider themselves as Albanians. If you would have told them so, you would have run severe risk of being slapped. Arvanites never bowed to moslem masters, they safeguarded their Eastern Roman / Byzantine identity and religion in spite of their sufferings, bravely fought for Greek independence and held top functions in the Greek state up to several Prime Ministers. If there ever has been any commonality between those, who call themselves Albanians today, and Arvanites during the hellenistic, Roman and Byzantine periods, then our history and identity starts to split irrevocably, at latest, after Kastriotis' death in 1468 and his fight against the Ottomans. Ironically, it is those who largely converted to the religion of their new Ottoman masters thereafter (today's Albanians) that consider him as their national hero.... Has the "documentary" producer ever wondered why Kastriotis' flag had the double headed eagle - Albania's flag of today? He should take a look at the flag of the Byzantine Empire, whose 1.000 years existence ended with the fall of Constantinople in 1453 and conversion of Christendom's biggest cathedral into a mosque by the Ottomans. Modern Albania and double headed eagle...irony here again. I rather accept - apart from Greeks - the Serbians, Russians referring to that symbol as Byzantium's cultural heirs. Latest after Kastriotis' death, Arvanites started standing on opposite sides, they suffered and they fought against what they called from thereon Turkalbanians and their Ottoman masters. So, never anybody call us Albanians. We are not. This for the history. Today, I believe most Arvanites have nothing against Albanians. The vast majority of Albanians integrates very well into Greek society, they are typically honest, hard working people and adapt well to the Greek culture. At least, this is what I can state from my experience
@theduck0
@theduck0 6 ай бұрын
Lmao talk about being brainwashed. Albanians never cared about religion and we and our/your ancestors didn't either. I am Orthodox Albanian it doesn't change my nationality nor does it make me hate Muslim Albanians. If you're that religiously close minded that's a you problem. The Greek minority has nothing to do with us Tosk Albanians btw. The way they've taught you the history of your people is full of greek propaganda. How sad, you hate your own people. Also you say Albanians are hardworking and nice, yet you call them "turkalbanian" and what not. You're honestly projecting your insecurities.
@beratmaliqi5445
@beratmaliqi5445 3 ай бұрын
me vjen keq qe ke harruar rrenjet tua shqiptare ….. Arberi ( Shqip) , Arvanit (greqisht) Arnaut ( turqisht) its just ALBANIAN qfar gjuhe flisnin gjysherit dhe stër gjysherit e tu ? me thuaj te lutem ketu disa fjale….
@bwoisness
@bwoisness 3 ай бұрын
I’m Catholic Albanian from the North and always have been. My ancestors fought Turks and communists and never forgot what they were. Guess my ancestors were built different.
@issavisisland9870
@issavisisland9870 3 ай бұрын
Long story short. Arvanites 🇬🇷 we are proud Greeks Περήφανοι Έλληνες Αρβανίτες forever👍
@beratmaliqi5445
@beratmaliqi5445 3 ай бұрын
arvanit, arnavut, arberesh ….. te gjith jemi shqipetar me zemer ❤️
@linditadhamo5861
@linditadhamo5861 11 ай бұрын
Vazhdoni punën tuaj fisnike Z.Mema, si një shqiptar I vërtetë që jeni. Nderim dhe respekt për JU. 🇦🇱
@Flavor88
@Flavor88 Жыл бұрын
Ju lumte Marin, dhe gjithe stafit. Episod teper i bukur. Me shkrive me mbylljen 😀
@levelstothis4919
@levelstothis4919 11 ай бұрын
Ky nuk ashte Marin Mema….
@Flavor88
@Flavor88 11 ай бұрын
@@levelstothis4919 po kush ashte sipas teje?
@valpeci3191
@valpeci3191 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Zoteri Mema per emisjonin e bukur perkthyer ne Anglisht te vertetat tona Shqiptare vonohen por nuk harrohen 🇦🇱
@letmemotivateyou528
@letmemotivateyou528 Жыл бұрын
Faleminderit per dokumentarin Marin .
@NS-mz8gq
@NS-mz8gq Жыл бұрын
Thank you for translating in English
@ronaldotto534
@ronaldotto534 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Top Channel, being an Arbereshë American, I Iove the positive ethnic Albanian historical figures that you give credence to.
@beratmaliqi5445
@beratmaliqi5445 3 ай бұрын
e flet gjuhen shqipe ? pershendetje nga Dardania ( Kosova 🇽🇰🇦🇱)
@ronaldotto534
@ronaldotto534 3 ай бұрын
@@beratmaliqi5445 mi e’ stato insegnato l’italiano ;) bene tosk bene gheg ;)
@agimfigura1046
@agimfigura1046 Жыл бұрын
Shqipërinë e kanë përdorur evropa për nevojat e veta për ta coptuar për greqinë, serbinë, edhe italinë por italia e la se e pa që eshtë e pamundur ta mbajë shqipërinë…
@greatalexander404
@greatalexander404 Жыл бұрын
@@armagedongr9847 nai nai re kupritis !!Elada einai kratos albanikis optodoksias !100% !5000xponia @80% einai plithizmou albdnikis katagogis !-kai sto oupano na pane einai ema albaniki 100%%🙏🏽💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🤘🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️
@lela8405
@lela8405 Жыл бұрын
@@armagedongr9847 . . .me të të 'm në valle zgërdhihesh o ' alabak.
@lela8405
@lela8405 Жыл бұрын
@@armagedongr9847 të çoj un po deshe,ka vite që ka ndru jet, ....
@lela8405
@lela8405 Жыл бұрын
@@servisluli5635 identitetin e ke në lëkur, në zhargonin tënd,jo italjane ,amerikane,po të gjitha pashaportat që ka sajuar politika botrore me statusin e fesë,prapa se prap të ndjekin damkat që të lan ato që bën lëmsh ktë planet.
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
Ti les re teneke . 😂 😂 😂 😂 All archeological places in Albania are from Greeks.. Apollonia Vouthroto Billys Dyrahio Antepatrea Amantia Your language . Have more than 50.000 greek words.. Ad many language in all wolrd.. 😂 😂 Specifically in high level speaking education.. 😂 😂 😂
@user-kv4db2bi2k
@user-kv4db2bi2k 10 ай бұрын
I am Albanian myself. And I love a lot scholars and historians that has brought in life all these facts as this video is bringin. One thing I always question myself. If Albanian language is 7,800 years old, and albanian language is among the oldest language not just in Europe, but in the world, how come that for over 7,600 years, Albanians were unable to create their own alphabet to educate and write for themself their own history? What was missing for so long among albanian speakers not be able to develop their own written alphabet? When on west they had the Romans, and in south they had the Greeks!
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 8 ай бұрын
they did create it but romans invaded and interrupted the process, it is no big deal since most of western europe even countries like France England etc use latin alphabeat. Greeks copied it from Phoenicians.
@dillinger445
@dillinger445 6 ай бұрын
because they are the sons of illyria.. and illyria was mountain people..
@ginaibisi777
@ginaibisi777 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget, that Albanians were always under empires occupation Greek, Persian, Roman, Ottoman, Serbian, Bulgarian. All of them have managed to destroy everything Pelazgo-Illyrian.
@klodianbiba2142
@klodianbiba2142 3 ай бұрын
you love the historians but you dont oay atentions on the history...the so known greek alphabet its the alphabet the illyrians used and before it they used the so known pelasgian alphabet you find it in the mesapian scripts which are an ilirian tribe...but lets come back to the so called greek aplhabet and why it was not greek alphabet officialy known as an updated version on phonician alphabet...in mythology which is an alegory form of tellin the real stories happent...it is said that the alphabet was brought in illyria by kadmus the father of illyr...by simple logic...how did the father not gave the alphabet to his son but gave it to greeks or helens!?...know lets see some closer facts...we all know that a well known illyrian king name was bardhyl... but in coins his name is writen at frist with the letter betta...which greeks used it to reffer to the letter v...so according to greek alpbabet his name is vardylis...but we know his name is bardhyll same as bato...or lets come closer...the greeks call the people refered in this vidio as arvanitas...we know they are arban...so chanching the b to v made them arvan arvanit...so if the alphabet its greek why haven't the greeks kept the original form of the alphabet letters of ancient times when its them alphabet.
@satrisatri584
@satrisatri584 13 күн бұрын
​@@albarmy1😂😂😂😂 good one
@ec8179
@ec8179 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Marin 👏👏👏 Si gjithmonë,,,👏👏👏👏👏
@HB-kf8cw
@HB-kf8cw Жыл бұрын
Të lumt Martin, Bota ka nevoj për historin e vërtetë. Ajo që më pëlqen se keni vë edhe Përkthimin ne ENGLISH👍🏻👍🏻🇦🇱
@meritapeco2784
@meritapeco2784 Жыл бұрын
Respekte Marin💪🦅👑🇦🇱, interpretim dhe dokumentar i shkelqyer si perher,, te ndjekim me shum interes e respekt per historine e Kombit Arberor, "Nena trime e Evropes" qe nje dit do ngrihet ne piedestalin Evropian te rifitoje respektin 💪🦅👑🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
@illyrian3949
@illyrian3949 Жыл бұрын
Që të quhesh ''grek'' , duhet sëpari të jesh shqiptar. -Aristidh Kola
@georgedemos3889
@georgedemos3889 Жыл бұрын
No history
@esticesti414
@esticesti414 Жыл бұрын
​@@georgedemos3889 te intereson e e paske perkthu apo flet shqip rrac qir grek
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 Жыл бұрын
Visconti Prasca blamed the DEFEAT on the POOR QUALITY of the albanian Soldiers based on the fact that an ENTIRE [N@zi-formed] albanian Regiment had been DECIMATED by the Greeks in Epirus !!! 🇬🇷✊🏻
@erjonavdolli8945
@erjonavdolli8945 Жыл бұрын
​@SpartanLeonidas1821 some were forced to fight and they deserted anyway , most fought against the Nazis and were sent to concentration camps . We have their camp photos and testimonies. But ofcourse Greece has always a different version for every event that happened
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 Жыл бұрын
@@erjonavdolli8945 We have your captured flags. Come visit them in our War Museums. 😃 Also, Nuremberg trials said that the Paramythia Massacres were: PLAIN MURDERS. You were condemned at the Nuremberg Trials. 👍🏻
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
"It has been reported that at the end of the 20th century some Christian Albanians still used the term "TURK" to refer to Muslim Albanians. " Matvey Lomonosov, "On Albanian Identity in the Late Ottoman Empire", Porta Balkanica, vol. 5, 2013, p.12
@gametestinglab8861
@gametestinglab8861 5 ай бұрын
I’m Christian Albanian and I don’t refer my Muslim Albanian brothers as Turks. We are nation defined by common origin. Not by religion. Hope you’re clarified now.
@arvanitesgreeksworstnightm9833
@arvanitesgreeksworstnightm9833 9 ай бұрын
Marin Mema historian from Lidl stores.
@lumeducka-ju6np
@lumeducka-ju6np 8 ай бұрын
Arvanitet 🇦🇱
@dkgamers1385
@dkgamers1385 3 ай бұрын
​@@lumeducka-ju6npgaytet
@user-hw7hn3eq5h
@user-hw7hn3eq5h 2 ай бұрын
Αrvanites and south Albanians have Greek origin. North Albanians were many ethnicities.
@user-bh3xp6wt5c
@user-bh3xp6wt5c Ай бұрын
Συμφωνω!
@nuhijaerdi1208
@nuhijaerdi1208 15 күн бұрын
Pseshqiptaretbehenbudallanebursateturqisetremiljonjaneturqizuarkaneasimilurshqiptaretmetemadheajeninormalshkadmthkombshtetfejakandikushumeikanperqashqiptaretsllavetgjuftittepafetkanemanipulmeshqiptaretmerusetgjuftngakarpatetklm
@Illyri-l6v
@Illyri-l6v 11 күн бұрын
Delusenal much?
@Illyri-l6v
@Illyri-l6v 11 күн бұрын
Arvanitasit jan shqiptar në Çamerise
@xhonixhoni4044
@xhonixhoni4044 11 ай бұрын
O Marin o flori ,o thesari yne .Sa me pelqen ta degjoj zerin ,Menyra se si e tregon historine te ben pervete.,,Respektet e mia ,
@i.e.bedini3050
@i.e.bedini3050 Жыл бұрын
Duke degjuar këte dokumentar nga I madhi Marin Mema , me mbetet veç te them ! Marini I madh i koheave moderne 🙏
@dimi302
@dimi302 Жыл бұрын
Η μεγαλη προπαγανδα ξερει σε ποιους πηγε αν πηγαινε σε αρβανιτες πολυ ξυλο θα ετρωγε και δεν επρεπε το κρατος καν να τον αφησει να γυρισει τετοια βιντεακια της ντροπης….
@nikephorosphocas6065
@nikephorosphocas6065 Жыл бұрын
To all our friends Albanians who are still able to think logically: if the story is how you are told -80% Arvanites in Peloponnese , nearly 100 % of revolution leaders and first prime ministers Arvatites , have you ever thought how in hell is it possible for a Greek speaking “minority” to assimilate and suppress the majority especially when all the leaders of the state were Arvanites as you say? If you still believe that , give the blame to Arvanites who made their choice and not to the rest of Greeks. There are many more lies in that film which made me laugh, but what I am trying to say is that they are not telling you the truth. Yes , there were Arvanites in Greece , but your media inflate too much their numbers and contribution. Unfortunately , Turkey is again using you against your cousins the Greeks like they used you back then. They have thrown a lot of money to your corrupt politicians and your elite to promote this propaganda against your neighbors.
@gledianlalushllari9577
@gledianlalushllari9577 Жыл бұрын
Because modern Greece was financed by Orthodox Christian Russia and most priests who controlled the country were Greek speaking Russians. It would be great to DNA test them. Russia wanted Orthodox Greece and Serbia to share the border and have control over the Adriatic. Austria-Hungary, being the enemy of Russia created ethnic Albania to prevent the Russians from having full control over the Adriatic. Neither the Greeks, nor Albanians build their own countries. Also, that's why they assigned a German prince, because people disagreed on pretty much everything. And many parliamentary hearings initially were in Arvanitika, don't know for how long. Now, since we live in modern times, you don't have to believe anyone's claims, just look at the DNA tests of Albanians on KZfaq, it's mostly the same people as the modern Greeks.
@rebelaris
@rebelaris 11 ай бұрын
I agree with the numbers but not with the last line , I could contradict your last comment with the same logic (Serbia)
@claudiiusmaximus652
@claudiiusmaximus652 10 ай бұрын
We aint no friends your friends is serbia, greece has nothing to offer to albania, bunch of old farts are worthless, bocari was an albanian, find me a greek with that name lmao, you loser, the same can be said about germans who occupied high power position in the usa but they kept speaking english, holy shit your stupid
@sp2558
@sp2558 3 ай бұрын
arvanites are 100% greeks...
@Dukgjin
@Dukgjin 3 ай бұрын
@@sp2558 Arvanites in Greece originate from Albanian settlers who moved south from areas in what is today southern Albania during the Middle Ages. These Albanian movements into Greece are recorded for the first time in the late 13th and early 14th century.
@psycheddelusive1433
@psycheddelusive1433 Жыл бұрын
Well that's a question I've been asking for years! In voiotia we arvanites have actually made ourselves identify as greek,i have been raised knowing I'm greek even though my great grandma spoke mostly arvanitika,my grandparents too,my mother understands albanian people. Nonetheless no one ever taught our generation the language. How could i learn arvanitika in today's world?
@erjonavdolli8945
@erjonavdolli8945 Жыл бұрын
If you learn albanian you already know 95% of arvanitika . The rest of 5% are old words that are not in use anymore. You are Arbëror brother , be proud, you were there when there was nobody else
@katerinatsoliakou235
@katerinatsoliakou235 Жыл бұрын
Μόνο απο τους παππούδες.. Και τους γονείς...Τα αρβανίτικα είναι τοπική διάλεκτος της Ελλάδας... Δεν έχει γραφή...
@psycheddelusive1433
@psycheddelusive1433 Жыл бұрын
@@erjonavdolli8945 I'm learning Albanian then! Salute my brother peace upon you!
@psycheddelusive1433
@psycheddelusive1433 Жыл бұрын
​@@katerinatsoliakou235μια γιαγιά έχει μείνει να τα μιλάει κι εκείνη οριακά με άνοια δυστυχώς! Η μάνα μου τα καταλαβαίνει καλά αλλά δεν ξέρει να τα μιλήσει,νομίζω ο μόνος τρόπος είναι τα αλβανικά!
@katerinatsoliakou235
@katerinatsoliakou235 Жыл бұрын
@@psycheddelusive1433 τα αλβανικά είναι πιο βαριά γλώσσα... Μην μπερδεύεις την ιστορία και τον πολιτισμό της Ελλάδας...Αν Θες να μάθεις κι άλλες γλώσσες...συν τα αλβανικά. Μια χαρά...
@gjokelekaj9633
@gjokelekaj9633 Жыл бұрын
Zoti te bekoft MARIN MEMA 🙏❤ Ti je krenaria e gjakut te paster SHQIPTAR 🌾🦅🌾 Gjuha jon asht e shkrueme me gjiak e ne GUR .🏔🦅🏔kurr nuk des .🌾🦅🌾
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
Albania language is opd as coca cola.. 😂 Albania language writen in stone.. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 After 1550.. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 ..
@tironcivjeter1200
@tironcivjeter1200 Жыл бұрын
Shqiperia eshte vendi me i bukur ne Planetin Toke dhe kte e thojne te gjithe Blogeret e huaj qe e kane vizituar Shqiperine 🙏🙏🇦🇱❤️🇦🇱❤️
@a.rossonero7588
@a.rossonero7588 Жыл бұрын
Shqiperia mbase esht por banoret e saj ne dmth jemi me shume shtaza sesa njerez fatkeqsisht
@funlovingbear5041
@funlovingbear5041 Жыл бұрын
Eha qenke ndonje fshat i tiranes ti qe ben kete koment. Po blogeret ca do thone o trap është qe shqiperia është vendi me rrumpall në europe dhe konkurojme me boten.
@tironcivjeter1200
@tironcivjeter1200 Жыл бұрын
@@funlovingbear5041 Fakte MF fakte ??
@durimxhameta3665
@durimxhameta3665 Жыл бұрын
paraleli 000
@thedonfromearth9952
@thedonfromearth9952 Жыл бұрын
Qdo vend i universit qe e ka kriju Zoti esht e bukur po bukurien e ton jon munu me na hup e kemi zemren e paq Zoti i sheh tanat 🇦🇱
@xhevahirdisha5971
@xhevahirdisha5971 Жыл бұрын
Faleminderit Marin Mema
Жыл бұрын
Language identify is not the same as national identity
@SaintSkanderbegus
@SaintSkanderbegus Жыл бұрын
For Arvanites, its not just language, it is the Albanian genetics, traditions too
@Arber-4673
@Arber-4673 Жыл бұрын
I know but, same with my family Tribe from Reka, some stayed to their Orthodox beliefs but loses their National identity, I think you know that they declare the Albanian language in the Church’s as a devil one but not in the Mosques and some became Moslems only because of that, this orthodox tribes where very proud Albanians Arbëror’s, do you think the lose of this feelings happened naturally? It’s hard to accept that because they try to denied our history as well some make them try to look other ethnicity you know it’s not true ?
@issith7340
@issith7340 10 ай бұрын
Arvanites = albanian speaking Christian Greek Orthodox. Turkalvanoi= albanian speaking muslims. The religion divided them, and the war was between them . The Christians hated the muslims ( especially albanian speaking muslims, as they were traitors, converted to islam, to gain power over the Christians). And the Christians won! Greek speaking and albaniann speaking, all together, were defining themselves, as greeks, by their own will, cause christianity united them. Any questions?
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 8 ай бұрын
DNA and blood is still albanian
@issith7340
@issith7340 8 ай бұрын
@@albarmy1 dna is still same as with the rest of greeks. Your dna , as well. Any more questions?
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 8 ай бұрын
@@issith7340 no it is not, greeks are mixed with turks, persians etc that's why they are brown. any more questions?
@issith7340
@issith7340 8 ай бұрын
@@albarmy1 greeks are mixed with middle eastern and mostly other European peoples. So, what ? Their dna is almost entirely as it was 3 thousand years ago. So what? ( same happens with population of the country that is called. Albania. So what does this mean?
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 8 ай бұрын
@@issith7340 no it is not, 3000 years ago there were no turks nor middle-eastern people in Balkans. Albanians are the least mixed people on whole Europe so unlike Greeks they can claim that they have the same DNA as their ancestors 3000 years ago. Greeks nowadays have little to nothing to do with ancient greeks. An ancient greek would be closer related to a modern albanian than a modern greek. have a nice day.
@fatmirkavaja4045
@fatmirkavaja4045 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Europe, can you hear us. That's reality. You can not hide reality.
@user-wy7em9fm2c
@user-wy7em9fm2c Жыл бұрын
"Europe"???? Lol....there's no Europe, only union amongst barbRians
@user-qf4ht1nw6f
@user-qf4ht1nw6f 2 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@user-wy7em9fm2cyou call our people Barbaric ? The fact that there are no Greeks who called themselves greek before 1830 and even many travelers who came in Greece if not all stated that the majority of this regions had 🇦🇱 majority and even since you proclaim us to be barbaric and think of our people with only Turkish ancestors you don’t know our races and blood we are the Illyrians wich Alexander himself and Pyrrhus stated they are a seed of the Illyrians.and Skanderbeg himself called himself as an Illyrians and Said that Alexander the Great and Pyrrhus from Epirus as his Illyrian ancestors and since you proclaim us to be Turkish name me one single time we called ourselves as Turks we fought the most against them before Gjergj Kastriotis Revolt and after him there were many Albanian uprisings against the ottomans the reason was to fight for their freedom and to speak the 🇦🇱 language freely bc the Albanian language was forbidden at the Ottoman occupation time the reason was bc we were a enemy to the Turks and the university of Durresë had to be closed for this reason.And since you say we are the barbarians then why did your state bring Orthodox Turks in Arvanite lands ? Bc of religion of Greece is a mix of ☦️ and ☪️🇦🇱 there is no Greece all the ottoman sources stated that the majority were 🇦🇱 and the rest were Slavs Arabs Jews or vlach origin the term Greek was never used at all but only in the church and the language you can see in acient writings are not in greek language you can easily translate them in 🇦🇱 the reason is bc the old greek language is not greek but 🇦🇱and if you translate them in Latin Alphabet an 🇦🇱 can easily translate every single word wich is written in these Ancient Greek writings in Byzantine times the Arvanites or Arbëror were since the beginning of the 11 century almost 80% all down to Crete and even all the fortresses and castles were guarded by them and even the army had an ethnic majority of 🇦🇱 origin the stratiots wich were an mercenaries who were paid by the Byzantine empire to fight for them and could move in Greece. And later after the ottomans captured these lands the Bua Noble Family wich stayed in Greece and some moved like the Arbereshë community did after the fall of Albania in 1478.The Venitians made a pact with the Arbërors living in morea to keep the castles as long as possible from the ottomans and even prevented many Times but not every time sadly but with venitian support they captured it in 1689 in Napflio and build a huge castle there for protection and the main army was made of 🇦🇱.then in 1715 it was recaptured by the ottomans untill 1821 when the Arvanites living there started revolting against the ottomans .
@ChildrenOfTheEagle
@ChildrenOfTheEagle Жыл бұрын
Sa bukur me titra anglisht. Bravo Marin
@davidscwimer1974
@davidscwimer1974 Жыл бұрын
"The Arvanites were considered equally Greek with the Cretans, the Maniots and the Phanariotes, especially if they participated in the Revolution from the right side. The Souliotes, who lived quite isolated, were considered also from the beginning not just simply Greeks, but exemplary Greeks." Aristides Hatzis, "The Noblest Cause: The 1821 Greek War of Independence", p.p. 108 Greeks 🇬🇷
@romeorony7167
@romeorony7167 Жыл бұрын
You Not know noothing arvanites are only albanian people Not greek
@davidscwimer1974
@davidscwimer1974 Жыл бұрын
@@romeorony7167 😂 they killed so many Albanians … how are they Albanians 😂
@romeorony7167
@romeorony7167 Жыл бұрын
@@davidscwimer1974 du bist dumm weiß du schlecht die albanische History
@davidscwimer1974
@davidscwimer1974 Жыл бұрын
@@romeorony7167 I know it better than you because i read books 📖 not Instagram 😂
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
@@romeorony7167 Albania history is old as coca cola.. 😂 😂 😂
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
"The coastal Himara region of Southern Albania has always had a predominantly ethnic Greek population." "Albania: The state of a nation". ICG Balkans Report N°111. p. 15. Archived from the original (PDF) on 8 August 2010. Retrieved 2 September 2010
@erjonsinani2451
@erjonsinani2451 7 ай бұрын
yes true. we did not kill them as you did to Chams, we are not baby killers. we will never forgive Chameria
@highevan
@highevan 6 ай бұрын
@@erjonsinani2451 "Chams are racially part Turk, part Albanian, part Greek. In 1941-3 they collaborated with Italians, making the organization of guerilla resistance in that area difficult. I never heard of any of them taking part in any resistance against enemy". Chris Woodhouse (PRO/FO,371/48094)
@highevan
@highevan 6 ай бұрын
@@erjonsinani2451 "The Chams have their own peculiar cultural identity, which is a mixture of Albanian and Greek influences as well as many specifically Cham elements." Hasluk, 'Christianity and Islam under the Sultans', London, 1927
@highevan
@highevan 6 ай бұрын
@@erjonsinani2451 "Very soon numerous voluntary Albanians fled to the Italian lines and parts of the Albanian population of Chameria supported Mussolini's attack against Greece." Ethnologia Balkanica. Vol. 6. 2002.
@highevan
@highevan 6 ай бұрын
@@erjonsinani2451 "However, the majority of the elites of the Cham community had become corrupted by the occupying forces and the atmosphere against the local Greeks who had suffered under Germans, Italians and Chams, led to an explosive polarization" wiki/Cham_Albanians
@michaelhadjimichael4778
@michaelhadjimichael4778 Жыл бұрын
I think because albania hasn't got alot of recognition from the world they are trying to say that the albanian blood is glorious like the ancient greeks were.The arvanits were brave christian albanians who fled albania to go to christian greece where they felt more at home and along with greeks fought the muslim turks. With many of them being heroes.
@klodianbiba2142
@klodianbiba2142 Жыл бұрын
yeah and the good greek people...gave them half of them territory and they send them people greek to go live in mounteins of drropull in albania...make sens perfectly...and whats next why they let musliam albanians too while it was orthodox...am orthodox by my self and have been in albania for centruries.
@michaelhadjimichael4778
@michaelhadjimichael4778 Жыл бұрын
@@klodianbiba2142 health is the most important doesn't matter where you are from we are all the same
@dorinakasa9051
@dorinakasa9051 Жыл бұрын
We are talking about more than 50% of population. Is it a possibility for immigrants to be 50% or more of the population? Read Lord Byron, he was present in greek revolution and he has documented everything on who were albanians and who were greeks
@michaelhadjimichael4778
@michaelhadjimichael4778 Жыл бұрын
@@dorinakasa9051 send me so I can read what lord byron said
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 Жыл бұрын
@@dorinakasa905150% ??? Bwahahhaaa! 🤡🤣
@parrhasius
@parrhasius 9 ай бұрын
It's quite new to me as a Greek living in London,but it looks like many of the heroes of the Greek war of independence were Arvanites ,they were more Greek than the Greeks themselves some say.If that's true it is shame that the Greek nation does not honour and recognise their language and contributon
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 8 ай бұрын
Greeks have committed physical and cultural genocide on arvanite albanian people. Nazi people like Golden Dawn.
@Dukgjin
@Dukgjin 8 ай бұрын
Papa Kristo Negovani was Killed by the greek church because he wrote albanian literature
@theoagg1124
@theoagg1124 5 ай бұрын
​@@albarmy1 Albanian propaganda is unbeliavable... Arvanite genocide happened by Turkalbanians, thats why they left them place...
@sp2558
@sp2558 3 ай бұрын
than educate yourself and dont let albanian nationalist tell you bullshit... Arvanites are dorian greeks sicne ancient times... Arvanites and Albanian are not the same...
@money.K
@money.K 3 ай бұрын
​@@sp2558He is ok, isn't saying anything wrong, you better educate yourself! Everyone in the world knows that arvanites are albanian and arvanitika is a dialect of albanian language! If you pay attention to some comments here from arvanites you will see who knows history and who don't! It's time to accept the truth, enough is enough! Lying yourself and other people isn't any solution.
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
"The few ALBANIAN units raised to fight during the developments of the Greco-Italian War (1940-1941) alongside the Italian Army mostly "EITHER DESERTED OR FLED IN DROVES"." Fischer, Bernd Jürgen (1999). Albania At War, 1939-1945. West Lafayette, IN: Purdue University Press, pp. 78-79 LOL
@mabh6630
@mabh6630 9 ай бұрын
Freedom to Northern Epirus from the albanian occupation.
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 8 ай бұрын
Cameria will be free soon.
@beratmaliqi5445
@beratmaliqi5445 3 ай бұрын
there is no „occupation“ in South Albania you can speak greek free there,,,, i have been there for holiday 🇽🇰🇽🇰🇦🇱🇦🇱
@Illyri-l6v
@Illyri-l6v 10 күн бұрын
@@albarmy1 shum shpejt me vullnetin e zotit
@jigg2982
@jigg2982 9 ай бұрын
The most famous Arvanitis for the albanians was Napoleon Zervas !! buhahahhaaa!!!
@user-qf4ht1nw6f
@user-qf4ht1nw6f 2 ай бұрын
Napoleon Zervas is a Turkogypsi
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
"Included under the generic name of Arnauts, it was recruited from Roumeliote Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians and Servians, who acted as body-guards to the princes, the great functionaries, and even the simple Boyards." Gordon Thomas, History of the Greek revolution, 1844, London & Edinburgh, 2nd edition, volume 1, page 95.
@ektorpolykandriotis635
@ektorpolykandriotis635 Жыл бұрын
the Arvanites are old immigrants to Greece from areas that back then had a mixed population. Although they preserved their language, they also assimilated into the mainstream Greek culture. So although they have ties to the territory that now is called Albania, they are an integral part of Greece and Hellenism. To say that the Arvanites are Albanian is like saying that Human Beings are Chimpanzees. They are related but not the same. By the way, contrary to the Greeks who for thousands of years have lived in Albania and are being ethnically cleansed, the Arvanites have done very well in Greece and are considered Greeks by everyone in Greece.
@gledianlalushllari9577
@gledianlalushllari9577 Жыл бұрын
It's obvious from a national perspective that Arvanites are Greek. Albania is an ethnic country, with four official religions which recognizes ethnic minorities, so Albanian is an ethnicity first, related to the Albanian people. Ethnically speaking Arvanites are Albanian. Also, Arvanites can't be simply old immigrants, because the war of independence was fought mostly by them. If they were simply immigrants the majority of the rebellions would have been started by the ethnic Greeks, followed by the Arvanites.
@ektorpolykandriotis635
@ektorpolykandriotis635 Жыл бұрын
@@gledianlalushllari9577 The Arvanites inhabited what is now Greece long before the 70th insurrection of the Greeks. The war of Independence was NOT fought mostly by them as the funding, infrastructure and political coverage did NOT come from them. In fact it was the Greek communities in Odessa and the Balkan principalities who organized the Revolution. The Arvanites were great guerilla warriors. The top General Kolokotronis was very keenly aware of his descendance from the Byzantine Empire and considered himself as belonging to the nation that had Constantine Palaiologos as a king. It is very well documented. The Arvanites who fought against the Ottomans, in the least, considered what would be present day Albanians as their mortal enemies. The organizing core of the revolution in terms of religion, ideology, political and financial infrastructure were with no doubt the Greeks, especially the Greek diaspora.
@gledianlalushllari9577
@gledianlalushllari9577 Жыл бұрын
@@ektorpolykandriotis635 Arguing with you is useless. Just look at the DNA.
@ektorpolykandriotis635
@ektorpolykandriotis635 Жыл бұрын
@@gledianlalushllari9577 we are not arguing. I am educating you
@ektorpolykandriotis635
@ektorpolykandriotis635 Жыл бұрын
@@gledianlalushllari9577 what about the DNA?
@ilircoku6406
@ilircoku6406 Жыл бұрын
Bravo vllaçko😊
@etnalutt3492
@etnalutt3492 10 ай бұрын
Albanians. The language Proves
@marcoamadasi4294
@marcoamadasi4294 Жыл бұрын
We arvanites we consider ourselves ALBANIANS we are more Albanian than Albanians but Greek government force Arvanites to forget the truth to forget language and traditions
@_Pellasg
@_Pellasg Жыл бұрын
But how come. Wasn't arvanitas the ones on top of the government
@user-kw7fe1dv3j
@user-kw7fe1dv3j Жыл бұрын
What "greek" government??? You guys say that EVERYONE was an albano, so which government forced you?? 🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣
@davidprenga6327
@davidprenga6327 Жыл бұрын
@@user-kw7fe1dv3j 70%
@user-kw7fe1dv3j
@user-kw7fe1dv3j Жыл бұрын
I bet my ass that you're an economic migrant albano that went in Greece recently 🤣
@Arber-4673
@Arber-4673 Жыл бұрын
Bravo vlla true 👍🏻 the same happened everywhere against the Albanian ethnicity, Albanians always served for the other but we are coming Brother….
@efstratiosfilis2290
@efstratiosfilis2290 Жыл бұрын
Dear Markel, thank you for the clarification. Our prime minister here in Australia is descended from those Arbereshe of Italy. My concern is only that the albanian government has a military alliance with turkey. Albanian people are people just like us.
@besnikillyrian8520
@besnikillyrian8520 Жыл бұрын
Alliances ? Just like greek alliances with serbs , you dont understand ??? Greek policy is very agressive against us , just like serbs
@erjonavdolli8945
@erjonavdolli8945 Жыл бұрын
The alliance is called NATO and Greece is part of it too.
@giorikass1
@giorikass1 10 ай бұрын
@@besnikillyrian8520 AGRESIVE?????? GREEKS???? WHO TOOK LAND FROM WHO????? OOOO SORRY !!!! ITALIANS GAVE IT TO YOU......
@besnikillyrian8520
@besnikillyrian8520 10 ай бұрын
@@giorikass1 dont try to teach your father where are his lands
@giorikass1
@giorikass1 10 ай бұрын
@@besnikillyrian8520 YOU SOUND LIKE MY MOTHER.....????? HAHAHAHAHAHA
@xristinadervish1798
@xristinadervish1798 Жыл бұрын
Emision shume I bukur Bravo Marino.
@Nicosgalanis
@Nicosgalanis Жыл бұрын
Arvanitas ❤❤
@jetnordyrmishi1669
@jetnordyrmishi1669 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Marin per emisjonin,por ne qe kemi qënë në greqi e dimë shumë mire sa shumë arvanitas janë ne greqi, por a do te vi nje ditë që arvanitasit të kerkojnë nënshtetsi shqiptare?
@zotrules
@zotrules Жыл бұрын
c'i keni keto fiksime me nenshtetesine ju ore? c'lishje ka arvanitasi me ate 28000 km2 qe perfshin kufiri i shtetit shqiptar? Do ta besh jabanxhi ne shtepi te vet ate ti? apo nuk ia ke haberin c'dmth nenshtetesi dhe ia kercet me top ketu? (si shume te tjere, jo per ty personalisht)
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
Are you pchyhopath... 😂 😂 Call ambulance.. 😂 😂 😂 😂
@Pajtim2023
@Pajtim2023 Жыл бұрын
@konstantintrehagyrevopoulo972you guys took all albanian lands more than 50.000lm2 You need to compansate us 1 trilion dollars for all damages in epirus western macedonia west greece and islands
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 Жыл бұрын
@@Pajtim2023 ​​⁠ In the Hostages Trial in Nuremberg (1948) the American judges referred to the executions in Paramythia by the Albanian F@scist N@zi’s as: ".. JUST PLAIN MURDER .." ^^^Condemned at the Nuremberg Trials. We have not forgotten your Crimes! Northern Epirus will be Free soon! 🇬🇷✊🏻
@user-ig5fx9yn3e
@user-ig5fx9yn3e 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 δεν έχεις διαβάσει ιστορία ποτέ ξύπνα ρε η παππούδες σας ήταν όλοι Έλληνες
@thisoldpod
@thisoldpod Жыл бұрын
Moj e bukura More!!!
@efstratiosfilis2290
@efstratiosfilis2290 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Rozafari a genetic study of Peloponnesian Hellenes undertaken in 2017 showed that the people of that region are related to southern Italians & Sicilians: areas that used to be called Greater Greece in the ancient times. Gjurme is relying on Falmareyre's thesis which has been discredited a long time ago. The Christian Albanians fought for our country's independence & we are very proud of them & owe them our eternal gratitude. Karaiskakis has a name that only has meaning in Albanian language. My Greek tutor at university taught me that. What is there to be ashamed of? Albanian people have been migrating into Greece from ancient times. Why is everyone now so nationalistic?
@ardip.6930
@ardip.6930 Жыл бұрын
A great number of Albanians/Arvanites migrated from Peloponnese to Souther Italy, where they joined the thousands of Albanians that had moved there since the death of Skanderbeg (and even before his death). There are old songs that Arberesh of Italy sing about Morea (Moria) and the place they left behind (all they had known because they had left Albania centuries before). Some Arvanites (fara or tribes) even returned to southern Albania after living for centuries in the areas around Athens (some of those pretending to be Greek today).
@MarkelUK
@MarkelUK Жыл бұрын
Dear Ms Filis, The people you are referring to related to Arvanites, are also Albanians who moved to the areas of Southern Italy an Sicily from the areas of today's Greece and south of Albania, after the Ottoman occupation, they are also know as Arbereshe/Arbanoi in English very close to Arvanoi. These people are identical to the Arvanites, they speak a very old Albanian same as Arvanites, identify themselves fiercely with the Albanian Scanderbeg's flag and themselves as Albanians. Why do we think that is?
@user-zh1ct8xe9l
@user-zh1ct8xe9l Жыл бұрын
Karaiskakis was not an Arvanitis and his names isn't Arvanitic so your teacher taught you pure bull shit
@albodomi1979
@albodomi1979 Жыл бұрын
The Christian albanians fought for a new country independent from Ottoman Empire. It should have been their country not "your" country, with albanian at least official language together with greek. But no, greek church, had other intentions, and did everything to eradicate albanian language. You should know what the state did(still does) to arvanites who speak albanian.
@user-om9cb1hl2f
@user-om9cb1hl2f Жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS YOU
@user-jf6yv8rj2s
@user-jf6yv8rj2s Жыл бұрын
They will chase you and the rocks. Mavromichalis and Kapodistrias, Arvanite? Kolokotronis Arvanite? He has left us his memoirs!!!
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 8 ай бұрын
memoirs written by greeks because they didn't speak a word in greek ahahahaah
@user-jf6yv8rj2s
@user-jf6yv8rj2s 8 ай бұрын
Written in what? In Albanian, when there wasn't any alphabet yet? And the rocks are laughing with you!!! Ha ha ha!!!
@issavisisland9870
@issavisisland9870 3 ай бұрын
Arvanites 🇬🇷 and rest of the Greeks, we faught against Turkalbanians ibrahjim, Ali Pasha and other ottomans and freed Hellas
@lekdukaxhini3392
@lekdukaxhini3392 2 ай бұрын
And so where is the problem!? As for turks you have them on your doorstep not us, they have fucked you for centuries😅
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq 2 ай бұрын
​@@lekdukaxhini3392my friend you need to. Learn.. 1940 Greeks fought against Italians and Albanians.. Or you not learn in Albania.. Let us to know bett.. Those with white hats.. Are Italian... 1911 when also Greek army was in Albania till vlora all balconies had Turkish flag And no forget chamides that help both Italians and Germans ... Or I am wrong.. And about chamides one question.. 80 years after why not go in any international court.. What they wait.... Only bal bla on roads..
@efstratiosfilis2290
@efstratiosfilis2290 Жыл бұрын
Hellenes were not all blonde & blue eyed Mr. Bilali. You are following Falmareyer's thesis which has been discredited decades ago. Orthodox faith is not a language but a religion. Nobody is forcing you to identify as a Hellene if you do not want to. There is nothing wrong with being Albanian or anything else. My best friend here is a patriotic Turk! I went to university with Sezar Jakupi.
@katerinatsoliakou235
@katerinatsoliakou235 Жыл бұрын
Τα αρβανίτικα είναι τοπική διάλεκτος τις Ελλάδας...
@claudiiusmaximus652
@claudiiusmaximus652 10 ай бұрын
Ask your government what they did to minorities then, you are the same as turkey
@christoschristos7805
@christoschristos7805 Жыл бұрын
23,32 ΖΗΤΩ ΟΙ ΗΡΩΕΣ ΤΟΥ 1821 ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ ΑΘΑΝΑΤΗ
@Illyri-l6v
@Illyri-l6v 11 күн бұрын
Zi qaj
@user-ig5fx9yn3e
@user-ig5fx9yn3e 7 ай бұрын
Ελλάδα παντού ακόμα και η Αλβανία ήταν ελληνική
@Illyri-l6v
@Illyri-l6v 11 күн бұрын
E kena zaptuar Greqinë për 250 vjetër
@giorgos158
@giorgos158 3 ай бұрын
Δεν υπαρχει θεμα ερωτησεως και ΦΥΣΙΚΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ.
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
"There were no noticeable Albanian - speaking communities in the cities of the Albanian coast throughout the Middle Ages. Durrës was inhabited by the Venetians, Greeks, Jews, and Slavs; Shkodra by the Venetians and Slavs; and Vlora by the Byzantine Greeks. Names of towns and rivers in Albania, always a good indicator of settlement patterns, are to a surprising extent Slavic. It is thought that a considerable proportion of the Albanians had already been assimilated by the eve of the Turkish invasion." Robert Elsie - Historical Dictionary of Albania 2010 , 2nd Edition 20 : 44/40 : 17- Documents About Skanderbeg > Was Skanderbeg ? Factual Data Exposes The Hidden Truth
@fitim1974
@fitim1974 Жыл бұрын
Nuk ke thënë diçka tjetër për Kolokotronin! Edhe emri që ka tani është pseudonim! Nga shqip (Bithëguri) ja bënë greqisht (Kolokotroni) mbiemrin e (Teodor Bithëgurit) Ja ndërruan mbiemrin vetëm për një qëllim, që të harrohet, ose të zhduket prejardhja e tij arbërore.
@wlp_diavolakos7352
@wlp_diavolakos7352 Жыл бұрын
The oringinal name of kolokotronis was Κωσταντίνος τσεργινης.stop albanian bullshit
@fitim1974
@fitim1974 Жыл бұрын
@@wlp_diavolakos7352 Do të jap fakte Kirie diavole!
@klajdizemblaku8256
@klajdizemblaku8256 Жыл бұрын
Ndaj si të themi BythëGurri apo KulëKoTroni është e njëjti përshkrim dhe që të dy bëhen me Gjuhën Shqipe 🇦🇱😆🤷🏼👍🏻
@fitim1974
@fitim1974 Жыл бұрын
@@klajdizemblaku8256 Patjetër që i njëjti përshkrim është
@fitim1974
@fitim1974 Жыл бұрын
@@klajdizemblaku8256 Dhe emrin (Bithiguri) i thonë Arvanitasit e tjerë, se ashtu flasin, këtë emër ja kanë vënë ata sepse kur e kishin burgosur ai rrinte gjithmonë i ulur në një gur brenda në burg, nga që ishte i burgosur nga disa grekër të tjerë, sepse kështu bënin ata, i burgosnin më të mirët deri sa vdisnin brenda dhe pastaj i bënin heronj të greqisë.
@jetonbalidemaj
@jetonbalidemaj Жыл бұрын
Sooner or later, everyone will know the truth💪
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Call ambulance.. 😂 😂
@jetonbalidemaj
@jetonbalidemaj Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny-pk3iq i dont understand the joke
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
Which truth.. These nonsense that you said in Albania kafenio.. 😂 😂 😂
@Merakvatani
@Merakvatani Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny-pk3iqdukeshë se je një fshatarë i painformuar. Edukata dhe dituria jote qënka për të ardhur keqë
@jetonbalidemaj
@jetonbalidemaj Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny-pk3iq its okay little man id be upset too if my country was a lie
@souliotesgreeksworstnightm2491
@souliotesgreeksworstnightm2491 9 ай бұрын
Arvanites are racially Greek from north Epirus, they also had no issues slaughtering Albanian Turks during 1821
@lekdukaxhini3392
@lekdukaxhini3392 9 ай бұрын
Because greeks are one race...😂😂😂
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 8 ай бұрын
Yeah Skanderbeg had no problems either. Now tell us a battle greeks won against tukrs on their own without arvanites in the army? hahahahah there is no one.
@Dukgjin
@Dukgjin 8 ай бұрын
Wtf Arvanit means albanian 😂😂😂
@sp2558
@sp2558 3 ай бұрын
@@lekdukaxhini3392 indeed they are... in a very high extend
@sp2558
@sp2558 3 ай бұрын
@@albarmy1 this is not the point... the point is that they are greek as greek can be... also Kastriotis was also epirote byzantine greek
@rayhoxha395
@rayhoxha395 Жыл бұрын
Bravo Marin je gjignd ivertet
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 Жыл бұрын
The place called Greece never existed before as we know it today. The people who live in so called Greece today used to be called "Romej" during Byzantine Empire and "Raja" during Ottoman Empire times (except the Arvanitas who used to be called always by their name like "Albani", "Arbanoi", etc.) and the name "Greece" never existed during Byzantine times. The people who live in the so called Greece today are NOT the descendants of ancient Greece (as the world history knows it). That ancient culture and civilization, unfortunately went extinct times ago, like many other ancient civilizations (like Latin civilization as well, language of which is spoken only in the certain official religious ceremonies in Vatican today and for international medical terminology). During Ottoman times in the Balkans, after the big powers pushed for an uprising in the place that today is called "Greece", an independent country was formed in 1821-1832. The majority of the population there was of Arvanitas (and Chameria) stock, they also were the backbone of the uprising for independence from the Ottoman Empire. The rest of the minority population was of Slav, Turks and Aromanian stock. After the gain of independence the place was so divided, and with a prolonged civil war that a real country could not be formed. Fearing the disintegration of the place after Ottomans left (and possibility of a return of the Ottomans), Prince Otto of Germany was brought in by European powers to clear the mess and do nation - building there. He was proclaimed King of the place by big powers and given plenipotentiary powers. The Price Otto royal family in Germany happen to be an admirer of the ancient civilizations, one of them being the extinct ancient Greek civilization, traces and archeological findings of which are also seen in that region called today "Greece" as well. Being an ancient history romantic and buff, Otto came up with the idea, that the only way to keep the place together and for a chance to build a country there, was to adopt/impose some kind of neutral/foreign ancient language and culture for all people living in that place, that will make possible for the people to stick together under one language and culture imposed on them. So with a special royal decree, he proclaimed a version of the ancient Greek (the easier one to be taught and learned by people there in those times) as an official language of the place, and also came up with the new name for the place, calling it with a special royal decree "Greece". Everything else was banned, and the new "country" formed, was ordered to be rebuild anew in resemblance of the old romantic view of the ancient Greek civilization, starting with the buildings, names of people, places, cities and villages, regions, mountains, fields and all were changed to made-up names loaned by the ancient literature of ancient Greek civilization. This of course was associated with money brought by European powers to rebuild. The more people in that place agreed with the change of their true national and ethnic identity and declare themselves artificially "Greeks/Helenes" and adopt to the new order, the more money was to be pouring in. Naturally, the strongest resistance to this artificial and made-up solution, was made by the Arvanitas (and Chameria), but at no avail. It is legendary, the loss by one vote in the Price Otto's Parliament of that time, of Arvanitas proposal to have the Albanian (Arvanite) language as an official language of the place called 'Greece" today, and to call the new country "Arvanoi" (instead of "Greece"). There is plenty of scientific and factual evidence, archival and historical documents, as well as studies and publications by major authors and authorities in the field about as above. One interesting fact here, is that one of the earlier German/Austrian well known historians and scientists of that time, Fallmerayer, alerted Prince Otto and others to this nonsense, of declaring a whole people and place by a name not belonging to them, and injecting an extinct language, culture and civilization on people who had no idea about it and did not belong to it at all. Well, Fallmerayer may have proven to be right. By the way, Fallmerayer, is a banned figure and historian in what is called Greece today. Germany is still paying for the Otto's mistake, even today. It has gotten stuck with the country so called "Greece". It is now forced to pour free money, even today, out of Germany's pocket (through European Union as well) year after year to keep it alive and going, as this "Greece" cannot stand on its own. It is an artificial creation of Prince Otto's fantasy (a "zombie" country so to speak), and the new generations of the Germans and Europeans are continuing to pay the price for it. Moreover, what Prince Otto did back then, is tantamount to ethnic cleansing. He forced inhabitants of a whole region/place (called "Greece" today) to change by force their culture, language, national and ethnic identity to something else that those people were not, so they could artificially change in order to look modern and civilized (like ancient Greeks in Otto's personal view) and possibly be united. And of course, Arvanites and Chams (as the majority population in the region) suffered mostly from this ethnic cleansing. All this revelation, informs another major point: history taught about what today is called Greece, it appears to be taught wrong. People are wrongly taught in schools that today's Greece and its people are the direct descendants of ancient Greeks. Greece and Greeks of today, in some extend, also think they are superior to others just because they are called "Greeks" and their country "Greece" by decree (not by the virtue of the truth). They also seem to believe for some reason, they are entitled to the German and European money being handed out to them. The school textbooks and historiography should change, telling people the truth as it is. And with this, will come many other changes, in the way we see relations with the country called "Greece" today
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
Eeee pchyhopath.. 😂 😂 Pchyhopath is Greek word.. 😂 😂 Mos of Greeks have 70% samr dna as Mycenean.. Of course we have and Slavic dna in some areas but we not have any Turkish dna.. We speak about same language with ancient Greek. We use ancient Greek as paragoga and synthetic every day We are the only nation that can understand Homer without translation about 40 or 50 %. And about Falmerayer. This theory is already felt down.. 😂 😂 As about arvanitas.. 😂 😂 Are Greeks.. They fought for Greece independence against Albania and Turkish.. 1940 arvanitas were very strong when Italy and Albanians attact Greece.. Ask your grandfather will remember what means arvanitas.. Also ask chamides.. 😂 😂 Never forget big heroe arvanita origin 100 💯 Napoleon Zervas... And not forget the official answer to Sali Mberisa when said that are Albanian minority.. 😂 😂 And eho knows if you continue to makr propaganda against to one country that protect FIR of Albania.. It will be easy 3 F16 destroy all Tirana.. We can arrange so easily thr pilots will be arvanitas origin.. 😂 😂
@katerinatsoliakou235
@katerinatsoliakou235 Жыл бұрын
Σαλάτα 🥗
@dorinakasa9051
@dorinakasa9051 Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny-pk3iq 1. Albania never has attacked any country, has been attacked many times by your “heroes” who wanted to take more land. 2. If you are proud of Zervas and call him a hero you are psychopath because he committed a genocide toward albanian, he killed innocent children, he unfairly took their properties and all this in the second world war when Europe was busy and could not pay attention to what was happening. Now Greece is part of EU and Albania is not and everything is politics. France helped you gain your independence and because of politics greeks have been able to steal all the land and commit crime towards albanians. Don’t forget that were occupied 500 years from ottomans and we still can speak our language, have preserved our authentic culture and we are proud to call ourselves albanians. There is a chance that South Epirus will become albanian land again and if not, im sure that the history will recognise the albanian community in Greece, chams will get their properties again. USA is with us!
@katrin715w56w
@katrin715w56w 10 ай бұрын
About albanians no anciend archeology nor a own genetic nor a own language not own 4est dna category u are actually a nation build by Austria hungary inn1912 with greeks northern epirotes (arvanitophones and vlachophones ) slavs turks romanians
@elonasvlogs
@elonasvlogs 3 ай бұрын
Very well said! 👏👏👏
@gencihoxha5349
@gencihoxha5349 Жыл бұрын
Marin , pse nuk beheni 3- 4 historiane si Elena kocaqi, Sazan Guri, Agron Dalipaj dhe ju, the te shkoni ne Athine the te debatoni me historianet greke. Dhe te vihet ne vend historia e vertete.
@johnalite9092
@johnalite9092 Жыл бұрын
Do e heqin qafe jorgot...
@claydexris5288
@claydexris5288 Жыл бұрын
Po U fut Shqiperia ne Europe shum gjëra do ndryshojn
@fatonafmedoski7040
@fatonafmedoski7040 Жыл бұрын
Nuk kan interes për të vërteten. Kjo tem duhet të debatohet nëpër gjith botën, greket nuk do pranojn kurrë
@cowboyfritz2813
@cowboyfritz2813 Жыл бұрын
Sepse i helmojne kafen ose coca colen
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 Жыл бұрын
@@johnalite9092 Giorgos for rid of You: Visconti Prasca blamed the DEFEAT on the POOR QUALITY of the albanian Soldiers based on the fact that an ENTIRE [N@zi-formed] albanian Regiment had been DECIMATED by the Greeks in Epirus !!! 🇬🇷✊🏻 Keep Crying 😃
@krasniqibesim7099
@krasniqibesim7099 8 күн бұрын
O Marin Mema po ti e MERITON NI STATUJE per sgjalli.. Shpirt tka Shqiptaria ty❤️🇦🇱
@michaelhadjimichael4778
@michaelhadjimichael4778 Жыл бұрын
Most countries in europe are of mixed blood take England who were invaded by vikinks saxos and normans.Its now called england but they are mostly saxon blood.what matters is the identity .Greece for example is greek orthodox has a blue and white flag democratic and represents ancient greece .Doesnt matter where the blood comes from.Take the usa who are they but its the usa
@erjonavdolli8945
@erjonavdolli8945 Жыл бұрын
Very true , but this is not the official stance of the Greek state though . They claim everyone has Greek blood . They don't say that Greece is a multiethnic country but a homogeneous one . Do you see a difference between saying we are proud of our diversity and saying we have no diversity because everyone is an ethnic Greek?
@michaelhadjimichael4778
@michaelhadjimichael4778 Жыл бұрын
@@erjonavdolli8945 it's all one identity one team one idea.Yes you could be from a foreign community but still the official language is greek .And if you are born in greece and you play in a greek football club against an other country you represent greece. Most countries are proud of their past and history and believe they are their ancestors. But really does it matter we must give them the benefit of the doubt.
@dbs20235
@dbs20235 Жыл бұрын
Greek government guidelines don't accept minority groups, But ask for minority number in Albanian territories, This is not right and must be taken to court and European Parliament.
@katerinatsoliakou235
@katerinatsoliakou235 Жыл бұрын
Ότι βλακεία σκέφτεται ο καθένας την γράφει
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 Жыл бұрын
⁠ In the Hostages Trial in Nuremberg (1948) the American judges referred to the executions in Paramythia by the Albanian F@scist N@zi’s as: ".. JUST PLAIN MURDER .." ^^^Condemned at the Nuremberg Trials. We have not forgotten your Crimes! Northern Epirus will be Free soon! 🇬🇷✊🏻
@StealthEagle9
@StealthEagle9 11 ай бұрын
@@SpartanLeonidas1821keep dreaming is good😂😂
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 11 ай бұрын
@@StealthEagle9 Your wife & sister in my bed! 😍
@claudiiusmaximus652
@claudiiusmaximus652 10 ай бұрын
I dont know why they keep playing this hypocrite games, we should deny greek existence into albania
@jameslycan7709
@jameslycan7709 Ай бұрын
Let's make something clear that the Greek Arvanite has nothing to do with the Albanian and the Turkish-Albanian!! And we discover this from the etymology of words (the etymology of Greek words always gives us the answer) The name Albanian = White country and comes from the Latin Alba = which means white country, so it is a term with a geographical and not an ethnological meaning (see Caucasus, that's where the Romans brought them, after all, from the kingdom of Albania) While Arvanitis originates from Arvanon (which refers to the Suliotes, the Spesiotes, the Hydrians and many inhabitants of Messogeia) it comes from a completely different root and specifically it is a toponym of northern Epirus that we find from the 11th century in the writings of Anna Komneni. Arvanitika is a Greek dialect mixed with ancient Greek, Latin, Turkish and local Balkan linguistic elements. The Arvanites had a Greek conscience, while most Albanians were Turkish, hence the word Turko-Albanian! The confusion of the two words is only in the Greek language because they seem to sound alike, the similarity is only superficial, after all the Albanians themselves call themselves Skipetar (Shqiptar), that is, from their country, Skiperia (Shqipëria), the land of eagles! The only relevant thing between the Greek Arvanites and the Shqiptar is that they understood some words from the other, but they never had and have the same national consciousness. The Arvanites of Greece, having their roots in the ancient Greek Arvanos, never accepted the term Albanians as their ethnonym, as the Souliotes and the Himareans and the Spathiotes and all the Northern Epirotians do to this day. They have always declared that they are Greek Arvanites. This means that behind the ethnonym Albanians and the patronymic Arvanitis there are two different peoples, the Albanians and the Greeks. This is to clarify the irregularity as far as the similarity of the words is concerned, but the ultimate goal is the Greek consciousness that exists among the Greek Arvanites! The British professor P. Trudgill after on-site research finds that: "The people themselves are referred, not as Albanians, but as Arvanites, sing: Ἀρβανίτης" : Arvanitis'
@ILLYRIANPost
@ILLYRIANPost Жыл бұрын
Ju lumtë
@j.C1405
@j.C1405 Жыл бұрын
Shkolla esht tembeli shtetit . Nese don me ndertue shtetit respect.
@wardafournello
@wardafournello 2 ай бұрын
The Arvanites were a bilingual Christian population from Illyrian origin with a Greek national consciousness. They constituted 11% of the population in 1821 in the Greek revolution. They fought bravely on the side of the Greeks against the Turks and the Turkalbanians and are duly honored by the Greek state. They also took part and expelled the traitorous Cham from Greece. This is the historical truth, the rest is Turkalbanian misery. The Shqiptarians are not real Albanians . Albanians - Illyrians from Arvanon ,Albanopolis are only the Arvanites and Arberesh .The Shqiptarians came in the area of today Albania in the 7-8th century from Mysia ,Dacia,speaking a similar paleobalcanic language. They were all called Albanians by the Byzantines. You are only Shqiptarians and this is not bad.
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
"We remark that the term "Albanian" is NOT AN ETHNIC qualification but, as the terms "Zouave" and "Dragon", is used as GENERIC to certain corps of infantry, formations of mercenaries recruited among Christians of Turkey. The Albanian Regiments were used also by the Italians and the French". Bode, Andreas (1975). «Albaner und Griechen als Kolonisten in Neurussland"», Beitrage zur Kenntnis Sudosteuropas und des Nahen Orients, Munchen, vol. 16 (1975), pp. 29-35
@fatmirzajmi6021
@fatmirzajmi6021 3 ай бұрын
Du kannst mich mal kreuzweise. Warum hast'du soviel Angst vor der Wahrheit.
@efstratiosfilis2290
@efstratiosfilis2290 Жыл бұрын
If you knew me Mr. Bilali you would know I am a scholar & a gentleman. That is why I do not use "words" like shite. Do you know that one ignoramus said that Skanderbey was greek because he had a greek name & I replied that back in the days of Byzantine empire having a greek name did not prove you were greek ethnically. Was Constantine Kotsifas pretending to be a Hellene when he was murdered? Or is it that many albanians are pretending to be turks? Our minorities are a bridge to bring us closer together & to live in peace & brotherhood. Do you desire peace?
@user-om9cb1hl2f
@user-om9cb1hl2f Жыл бұрын
well said a bridge of peacefulness we have so much in common
@claudiiusmaximus652
@claudiiusmaximus652 10 ай бұрын
We aint brothers nor we are interested in, first recognize our contributions then accept albanian language then we can talk otherwise we dont need to talk
@claudiiusmaximus652
@claudiiusmaximus652 10 ай бұрын
Skanderbeg was half albanian half slav, we attest that as a fact contrary to greeks whos sees even the moon as greeks
@hisenhasani2979
@hisenhasani2979 11 ай бұрын
Hahhaa how arvanites Greek arvanites mother language is albanian arvanites speak albanian costums are albanian, I never hear greks speak albanian
@nasthewild3063
@nasthewild3063 Жыл бұрын
Born and raised in Greece. Family born and raised in Greece for 600 years and before that in Byzantine Epirus, Roman Epirus and ancient Greek Epirus for thousands of years. Albanian historians: "You are Albanian"! Logic 😂
@erjonavdolli8945
@erjonavdolli8945 Жыл бұрын
Well first of all these are not facts presented only by Albanian historians , but by every foreigner that visited Greece before and during the revolution. This is why Fallmerayer theorised that the Greeks had been wiped out , not because he hated Greeks but because everywhere he traveled on Mainland Greece he heard Albanian being spoken . The wife of King Otto would dress up in Arvanitika attire and speak Arvanitika. You can feel however your heart tells you too , and we have no right to tell you otherwise. We just don't appreciate the cultural appropriation and falsification of historical facts . Those warriors that fought were trained by Ali Pasha and by the Albanian division of the French Army. Absolutely nobody called them Romios at the time, and I think nobody would have dared call them that . I encourage you to do your own research on the matter. There are lots materials in Greece too
@nasthewild3063
@nasthewild3063 Жыл бұрын
@@erjonavdolli8945 Fallmerayer is a very poor source and he has been discredited by scholars all over the world and his Greek theory was proven to have political motivations. There are several good studies on the subject but if you want indisputable proof all you have to do is look at modern genetic studies. Several have been done by now and they all show strong connections to Italian DNA and almost zero connections to modern Slavic DNA. DNA can't lie. Arvanites left what is now Albania before the Albanian ethnicity was even a thought. Don't confuse them with modern Albanians who moved to Greece since the 90s. This is a different story. Yes Arvanites have their own language and traditional dress. That is their heritage and it doesn't make them any less Greek. The warriors you speak of (especially the leaders) where trained by the British in the years leading to the 1821 war in the 1st Regiment Greek Light Infantry. Having been around Arvanites for many years I can promise you that if you imply that they are connected in any way to the Albanians you'll regret it. I don't appreciate cultural appropriation and falsification of historical facts either so please make sure your sources and facts are accurate and peer reviewed.
@gledianlalushllari9577
@gledianlalushllari9577 Жыл бұрын
They don't mean Albanian as citizen of the republic, they mean Albanian as being ethnically one. The Albanian people were here for a very long time, although they weren't united and didn't call themselves Albanian. Under the Roman and the Byzantine empire the official languages were Latin and then Greek, but the people's language was always Albanian. Even in Greece, in the 1820s, most people in Athens and Nafplio spoke Albanian, a similar situation in Russia in the 1700s, where the administration spoke French but the people spoke Russian. Ultimately, if you don't like that, just do a DNA test, and compare it to the Albanians.
@christaras21
@christaras21 11 ай бұрын
​@user-rs4bx3yx6mcorrect, this is how Arvanites fucked your turkalbanian ass bro
@magneticmedia82
@magneticmedia82 11 ай бұрын
@nasthewild3063 born and raised in greece, of course, have to be called greek. but...fact is fact: albanian root. this is the point, this is what greek state deny to accept. the trueth is trueth. this is what greek state try to hide . can u tell me the reason y this happens?
@blcredman4140
@blcredman4140 Жыл бұрын
Flm Marin Mema per punen e palodhshme, ma shum po mesojm prej teje se ne shkolla e nga qeverit tona mafjoze, zoti te rujt vlla
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
Last October, Council of Europe's mission visited Albania and formed a Center for Ethnic Research in Tirana. In April 2002, the Center delivered a questionnaire of 33 questions to the Albanian population all over the country. "The results of this research show that about one million or 35% of the total population in the country are members of minorities. This makes Albania a multiethnic state," said the Director of the Center for Ethnic Research in Tirana, Kimet Fetahu. LOL
@Dukgjin
@Dukgjin 8 ай бұрын
Greece is the most multi ethbic State in Europa. Before the 18 century nobldy was called greek. The Geeks didnt exist. They were only member of the byzantin church like Vlachs slavs ans albanians. Greek lived in cappadocia
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
@@Dukgjin "Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components-name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association-were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia.“ Anthony D. Smith (1998). Nationalism and Modernism: A Critical Survey of Recent Theories of Nations and Nationalism. New York: Routledge.p. 191
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
@@Dukgjin And the analbanians?! WHere are they?! lol Nowhere to be found...
@Dukgjin
@Dukgjin 8 ай бұрын
@@highevan greeks didnt exist before the 18th century. Show me one greek tribe that survived from the middle ages till today
@Dukgjin
@Dukgjin 8 ай бұрын
@@highevan albanians are mentioned as "Albanoi" and theyere city "Albanopolis" in 1200 bc
@a_chicken_nugget
@a_chicken_nugget 11 ай бұрын
Greqia duhet ta njoh minoritetin Shqiptare Arvanitasit jane Shqiptar ashtu si Kosovaret dhe Arbereshet 🇦🇱
@nikolathegreat1526
@nikolathegreat1526 6 ай бұрын
The situation is the same in Aegean Macedonia. Older people still speak Macedonian, but the younger are all converted into Greeks. Greece is a nation built uppon graves of foreighn peoples.
@theoagg1124
@theoagg1124 5 ай бұрын
There is no Macedonian language, and no one northern Greek old or young understand Slavic languages, i live here. You can see not even face similarities between Northern Greeks with slavic people unless you re blind.
@nikolathegreat1526
@nikolathegreat1526 5 ай бұрын
@@theoagg1124 for sure, I can find you thausands of videos of Macedonians in Kostur, Lerin and Solun districts speaking in Macedonian. And pale people in Greece most surtently are of Slavic descant, unlike the dark skined ones originating in Pontus, having more Turkic than Mediteranian dna.
@theoagg1124
@theoagg1124 5 ай бұрын
@@nikolathegreat1526 I dont want to wake you up from your brainwash and ethnicity identity insecurity.. you can continue this dream watching Greeks speaking slavic and believe you are Alexander the Great descendant.
@theoagg1124
@theoagg1124 5 ай бұрын
I will leave you up to your ethicitity identity insecurities watching dreams of Greeks speaking slavic and you you being descendant of Alexander, and i will tell you to start learning Ottoman history first.
@arbergjinaj4770
@arbergjinaj4770 Жыл бұрын
Je i madh! Te past shqiperia
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
"The ethnonym "Albanian", where it is found in medieval sources, has one of the following meanings: a) Someone who speaks Albanian, b) someone from the geographical area of Albania, REGARDLESS OF THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN, and c) a man of the mountains and the countryside." Schmitt Jens Oliver (2009), Skanderbeg: Der neue Alexander auf dem Balkan, pp. 353, 354
@Dukgjin
@Dukgjin 8 ай бұрын
And the ethonym greek didnt exist before the 18. Centruy 😂
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
@@Dukgjin "The details presented in the paper show that "Έλλην" (Hellene) may have been the most frequently used term of self-identification during the second half of the 18th and early 19th century, but that equally applies to all periods from the mid 15th century onwards, with the references of Έλλην encountered in the sources BEING DOUBLE OR TRIPLE that of Γραικός or Ρωμαίος. More specifically in the period examined, that is from the mid of the 15th century to the end of the 16th, in 63 texts we have 96 references to Έλληνες (in the sense of modern Greeks) and the derivatives of the word (as Έλληνικóv), 34 to Γραικοί and only 9 to Ρωμαίοι. In the 17th century, we encounter 102 references to Έλληνες , 43 to Γραικοί and 56 to Ρωμαίοι, which is a substantial increase in the use of the term. Finally, in the 18th century and the first 20 years of the 19th, in 175 texts there were 617 references to Έλληνες, 204 to Γραικοί and 133 to Ρωμαίοι. It is also clear in the examined texts that, despite personal preferences, both clerics and laymen had no problem in using the term Έλλην. In fact, we often see the three terms used by the same person within the same text, or, alternatively, in different texts, AS SYNONYMS. Even when there was a noticeable unwillingness of someone to call the modern Greeks ΄Ελληνες, there was a clear understanding that they were descendants of the ancient Greeks, even though they did not share the same religion. The sense of national identity, therefore, long pre-existed the period of the modern Greek Enlightenment and was not established through its influence." Eleni Aggelomati Tsougkaraki, pp 264-265, (2018) [Hellene, Romios, Greek: Collective Identifications and Identities]” Eurasia Publications.
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
@@Dukgjin DEBUNKED🤡🤣
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
@@Dukgjin "The Greece runestones (Swedish: Greklandsstenarna) are about 30 runestones containing information related to voyages made by Norsemen to the Byzantine Empire. They were made during the Viking Age until about 1100 and were engraved in the Old Norse language with Scandinavian runes." "On these runestones the word Grikkland ("GREECE") appears in three inscriptions,[1] the word Grikk(j)ar ("GREEKS") appears in 25 inscriptions,[2] two stones refer to men as grikkfari ("traveller to Greece")[3] and one stone refers to Grikkhafnir ("Greek harbours").[4] ." wiki/Greece_runestones
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
@@Dukgjin "Roman, GREEK (if not used in its sense of 'pagan') and Christian became SYNONYMOUS terms, counter-posed to 'foreigner', 'barbarian', 'infidel'. The citizens of the Empire, now predominantly of GREEK ethnicity and language, were often called simply ό χριστώνυμος λαός 'the people who bear Christ's name'." Harrison, Thomas (2002). Greeks and Barbarians. New York: Routledge., p. 268 In the "Souda" Lexicon written (10th century) Graikos=Hellene and also Graikos=Romaios [Graikoi (plural) =Hellenes (plural) (Γραικοί : Οι Έλληνες. Εκ του Γραίξ, Γραικός.) and Raikos=Rhomaios (Ῥαικός : Ρωμαίος)] and in the "Zonaras" Lexicon (12th century) Romaios=Graikos=Hellene. [Graikoi (plural) = Hellenes (plural) (Γραικοί. οἱ Ελληνες. ἀπὸ κώμης τινός. παρὰ τὸ ῥαῖσαι ῥαικὸς καὶ γραικός. καὶ γὰρ διὰ τὴν πολλὴν ἀνδρείαν οἱ Ελληνες ουτως ἐκαλοῦντο.) and Raikos=Rhomaios=Graikos (Ραικός. ὁ ̔Ρωμαῖος. ̓Επίχαρμος· φιλεῖ ειναι γραικὸς, ἀποβολῇ τοῦ ˉγ ῥαικός.)] In other words according to the lexica of that period : Rhomaios (Roman) =Raikos (Greek) =Graikos (Greek) =Hellene (Greek) But then I guess you don't even have a clue what the Souda or Zonaras Lexica even are.. LOL
@athanasiosv3758
@athanasiosv3758 21 күн бұрын
Εγώ ένα ξέρω ότι οι Αρβανίτης πολέμησαν τούς Τουρκοαλβανούς άρα στήν Αλβανία ή περισσότεροι είναι Τούρκοι κ Marie χαιρετισμούς
@highevan
@highevan 8 ай бұрын
"The language of the Albanians is unformed and adulterated. In many areas Italian elements have been incorporated into the language, in others Greek and in others Slavonic. Therefore Albanians who live fifty or sixty miles apart do not understand each other. In addition, there are racial differences between the Gegs who live in the wild north and the Tosks in the less rugged south. One would say that they belong to different ethnicities. And indeed this is the case. It would be easy to prove that the Albanians are not one people but half a dozen peoples." Sir John Foster Fraser, "Pictures from the Balkans", CHAPTER XXIV. THE ALBANIANS, p. 257-258)
@egzonjusufii
@egzonjusufii Жыл бұрын
Faleminderit Marin!!🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
@efstratiosfilis2290
@efstratiosfilis2290 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Zanatis sometimes i can tell an albanian from a greek but sometimes i cannot; but why is this progarm insinuating that greeks & albanians are enemies?
@michaelhadjimichael4778
@michaelhadjimichael4778 Жыл бұрын
Because they are jealous of the greek nation and its history
@elindadylmishi3056
@elindadylmishi3056 Жыл бұрын
@efstratiosfilis2290 they don't say that Greek and Albanian people are enemies, but that the greek politics have always discriminate minorities. And don't accept that the Greece at the beginning were populated by different ethnic groups.
@claudiiusmaximus652
@claudiiusmaximus652 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelhadjimichael4778we dont claim greece we claim our own people who suffered from your hands, you can keep your shithole for yourself, last time i was in athens, outside the parthenon, it was easily the ugliest and dirtiest city ive ever been in europe, your kin asking money to buy their drugs while indians have their own shops, thanks to china they have now your country as their own, I could care less about arvanite todays, they are a dying breed as much as is greece, only migrants makes your country useful, without them your nothing
@katrin715w56w
@katrin715w56w 10 ай бұрын
​@@elindadylmishi3056only one minority we have the turks the others are immigrants from 1990 and both have theyre rights more rights than in albania have the greeks and others
@hellenicbloodline
@hellenicbloodline 7 ай бұрын
This channel has full of your Albanian propagandas
@user-bh3xp6wt5c
@user-bh3xp6wt5c Ай бұрын
Ειμαι Αρβανιτισσα,ειμαι ΕΛΛΗΝΙΔΑ!
@efstratiosfilis2290
@efstratiosfilis2290 Жыл бұрын
What is wrong with us being from Asia Minor? Are you a racist Mr. Bilali?
@KatemeKostogianni-of6pm
@KatemeKostogianni-of6pm 8 ай бұрын
I Madhi Marin Mema qe i jep leksjon gjith Shqiptarise Per Historin e te pareve tane
@efstratiosfilis2290
@efstratiosfilis2290 8 ай бұрын
You are correct Elinda. Like all Balkan countries Greece did not treat its ethnic minorities with respect. (The Vlachs were always Greek patriots but Greece never allowed them to teach their language in any national schools). Greece is changing. Recently the courts upheld the right of organisations to teach the "Macedonian" language in Greece. The corrupt government of Albania is bulldozing the homes of the Greeks in Albania & selling the land to Eddy Rame's tourist developer friends. Considering that so many Albanians came to Greece, worked hard & did well for themselves why is your government doing this?
@dillinger445
@dillinger445 6 ай бұрын
if everyone would teach theeir dialect greece would end up like albania.. full chaos and no identity.. its 1 greek language for everybody
@lekdukaxhini3392
@lekdukaxhini3392 2 ай бұрын
Please speak for your country not all balkans, greek minority here in Albania have all rights and even more, even the right to elect criminals like Beleris. You have wiped out all your ethnic minorities, what are you saying. You are the only country in Europe that hasnt signed any minority rights convention, and still your parlament refute despite pressions from EU. Your politicians at european parliament said that Greece Is homogeneus and doesent have minorities, making yourself a laughing stock to all europeans. As if they all doesnt know the history. As for albanian emigrants there they doesnt owe you nothing, they worked their asses despite the racism, despite all the harassment of the governament and people down there. There are albanians that still have to get their papers after 20 years down there, and had to change their names!!
@lekdukaxhini3392
@lekdukaxhini3392 2 ай бұрын
​@@dillinger445Ohhh "dialects", more like languages.... As for identity dont worry we Albanias has always had a unifying language and blood. You are worried to know how mutch of a creole country you are😂
@xhoanatoma5078
@xhoanatoma5078 11 ай бұрын
Gjuha greke eshte sjedhur voone ne greqin e shqyptareve. Por Mos harroni se grek turk russe serbe punojn bashke per te coptuar tokat shqyptare.
@1819212
@1819212 Жыл бұрын
80% of the villages were Albanic??? In Mani were Albanians?? Petro Mavromichali was Arvanitis?? Kapodistria was Arvanitis???nonsense...you put many lies among truths . Never were albanians in Mani ,only some villages in eastern Lakonia The Arvanites were mainly in north east Peloponnese and after the revolution the 30% of the population in modern Greek state
@Arber-4673
@Arber-4673 Жыл бұрын
Then they where expelled probably
@1819212
@1819212 Жыл бұрын
@@Arber-4673 who expelled Arvanitas??from where??they joined the Greek state!Prime Ministers , politicians, Generals of the Greek state were Arvanitas Man take it or leave and try to deal with this As Orthodox Cristians we joined the new state against ottomas and muslim Albanians who they slaughter us and now you come to declare what??? We are Greeks now, this is our home The blood of all these Cristians runs to our veins. Who are you??
@Arber-4673
@Arber-4673 Жыл бұрын
@@1819212 they joined 😂 I think the London treaty joined them because they where already there and won the War and had their Capital, it was naturally choice buy them but as we know the others can’t accept that like it became already reality, don’t cry it is a part of your history. There was a huge hate and war against our „ethnicity“ ! They used them and destroyed them
@1819212
@1819212 Жыл бұрын
@@Arber-4673 the only who destroyed them through centuries were the muslim albanians. Rats and underdogs of turks in balkans, that is why nobody really likes albanians in balkans ,becouse the majority gave their ass to the turks and played their game Arvanitas assimmilated to the Greek state by choice and never suppressed or destroyed. Many governors and generals were arvanitas ..even now you can go in various areas in Attika and see celebrations of this culture
@timqorri3197
@timqorri3197 Жыл бұрын
Arvanitasit jane shqiptare ata flasin gjuhen shqipe si gjuhe e nenes
@gledianlalushllari9577
@gledianlalushllari9577 Жыл бұрын
People confuse being Albanian with being Greek. Albania is an ethnic country, which four official religions, kinda like Yugoslavia. It also recognizes ethnic minorities. Greece is a religious country. Like the Byzantine empire, it does not care about ethnicity. As long as you're Orthodox Christian and speak Greek, you're Greek, otherwise you can't be Greek. It does not recognize ethnic minorities. So, ethnically Arvanites are Albanian, but nationally they're Greeks.
@katerinatsoliakou235
@katerinatsoliakou235 Жыл бұрын
Οι Αρβανίτες είναι μέρος του ελληνικού πολιτισμού και της ιστορίας της Ελλάδας
@christaras21
@christaras21 11 ай бұрын
What is Albania??? Ethnic country??? Based on which consciousness?
@gledianlalushllari9577
@gledianlalushllari9577 11 ай бұрын
Based on blood relation and language. Albanians have common ancestors. You can't be ethnic Albanian unless one of your parents is Albanian, preferably both. Greeks, don't have common ancestors, they have Orthodoxy which connects them, so it's a religious identity. Don't you know what ethnicity means?@@christaras21
@christaras21
@christaras21 11 ай бұрын
@@gledianlalushllari9577 language isn't and can't be an identity factor, only an evidence that may point to that direction. National consciousness might or might not include linguistic identity. We do have many examples in Europe where genetic relation doesn't coincide with national consciousness. Even if i accept you argument about common ancestry (with which I don't agree in any way since Arvanites birthplace Arvanon was inhabited by Greeks centuries back), how do you feel being on the same side with those that consider Kastrioti as nationally hero, and those Muslim Albamians(known as Turkalbanians and considering themselves Turks up until recently) that in reality are descendants of those betraying their religion and those that have fought for their ancestral beliefs? How can you even mention genetic homogeneity when today's Albanians belong to two marginally different tribes in terms of biological traits and cultural habits, Geghs and Tosks, with the latter being really close to southern Greeks. How can you explain the strong national identity of Greeks living in Northern Epirus/Southern Albania? Cut that shit off, and don't pretend to be pure breed of Illyrian descent... Find first an Albanian inscription in Arvanon and then come and talk. Μαλακα Αλβανε
@katrin715w56w
@katrin715w56w 10 ай бұрын
​@@gledianlalushllari9577greek is the race Mister! And we greek arvanitophones are greeks in history your killers wecare from greek epirus region of greece 😅 we are greeks and not the only one ! Albos actually are a mixed nation of greeks romanians slavs turks 😅
@ALBANIA928
@ALBANIA928 7 ай бұрын
ALBANIAN FOREWER ❤
@xhoanatoma5078
@xhoanatoma5078 11 ай бұрын
Arvanit came formojn greqin antike è greqin e zotit. ❤👑🇦🇱❤👑🇦🇱
@freddiebelushi9273
@freddiebelushi9273 Жыл бұрын
O Marin je Njish🇦🇱jep nji Emision per Nikola Teslen se na cmenen kta serbet thon qe esht Serb duke qen puro Shqiptar veshur me kostum Shqiptar kta thon esht serb esht si me i then deles dhi🤔
@safetpolisi6903
@safetpolisi6903 Жыл бұрын
🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
@elliscomi8860
@elliscomi8860 11 ай бұрын
Kjo teme as nuk duhet diskutuar. Jan Shqiptare.
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 Жыл бұрын
Visconti Prasca blamed the DEFEAT on the POOR QUALITY of the albanian Soldiers based on the fact that an ENTIRE [N@zi-formed] albanian Regiment had been DECIMATED by the Greeks in Epirus !!! 🇬🇷✊🏻
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
Albania side said.. Not.. Never Albania attact Greece.. 😂 😂 😂 All are in book of this leader....
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny-pk3iq In the Hostages Trial in Nuremberg (1948) the American judges referred to the executions in Paramythia by the Albanian F@scist N@zi’s as: ".. JUST PLAIN MURDER .." Condemned at the Nuremberg Trials We have not forgotten. Your punishment is coming for your crimes! North Epirus soon 🇬🇷✊🏻
@fationsejdaras204
@fationsejdaras204 Жыл бұрын
Duhet shkrojtur shqipja Edhe me alfabetin te ashtuquajtur grek, per ta bere me thjeshte mesimin e shqipes nga arvanitet.
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
Call ambulance... 😂 Or pchychiatris.. 😂 😂 😂 Pchyhopath... You need electroshock.. 😂 😂 Alphabet is Greek word.. For all languages are same.. Alphabet ... Including Albania.. Albania language have Latin alphabet.. 😂 😂 😂 Many Latin anf Greek words are in Albania language.. Special in high level speaking education..
@fationsejdaras204
@fationsejdaras204 Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny-pk3iq shqipja shkruhej edhe ne kete menyre, ti cfare frike ke? Apo qe disa shkrime antike mund te perkethehen ne shqip? Se ne greqisht spo ja dalin.
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
@@fationsejdaras204 ancient Albanian??? Wherebwas your first written document.. 😂 😂?? Where are archeological places in Albania.. 😂 😂 All are from Greeks Apollonia Vouthroto Billys.. Half.. Antepatrea Amantia Dyrahio.. 😂 😂 All thst you have in museum in Tirana are from Greeks.. From illyrians you have only cartoon and photo.. 😂 😂
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
@@fationsejdaras204 what we must afraid.. All word know what means Greece and Greek.. All abroad museums are full from ancient Greek statues.. All around Mediterranean have archeological places from Greeks.. Egypt.. Itlay.. Turkey. Spain.. All Greece is one big museum.. And must afraid.. 😂 😂 Only proudly.... And honor..
@Johnny-pk3iq
@Johnny-pk3iq Жыл бұрын
@@fationsejdaras204 Greek language teach in many universities around the world.. In medicine dictionary have 30% of Greek words. So... 😂 😂 Why must afraid Albania.. 😂 😂 Without any written document.. Without any proof.. Only bla bla.. For Albanians kafenio.. 😂
@user-lc1py8wu2t
@user-lc1py8wu2t 4 ай бұрын
Të lumtë. Shqiptarëve iu duhet e vërteta…Zë TJERËVE PLAQKA…
@veronicalogotheti1162
@veronicalogotheti1162 11 ай бұрын
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