Exactly how I felt after watching his review. This is what I needed

I don’t see how Joshua said it was more than it was. Both reviews seem very consistent with each other. Just because someone likes something doesn’t mean they are wrong. My best guess is for people that wanted an Arya with more engaging/ enjoyable bass, this headphone gives you that and could be near perfect for that type of person in the price range. So again just because Resolve focused more on the treble doesn’t mean Joshua is wrong. Resolve also said they can be adjusted with a very simple EQ if the treble bothers you. The point of these reviews is to get an idea how exciting something is depending on your preferences. I think it’s great Joshua got pumped up about them. Resolve also seemed surprised by the bass/ engagement factor but he is a science guy. He focused on the negative more. All good to me from both people.

​@AL-qj9yh Unless you abuse your headphones, this isn't an issue.

​@@AL-qj9yhI've never had any issues.

​@@AL-qj9yhMy Sundara 2021 is still in mint condition, use it every day, put ZMF pads on it, game on them etc etc without a single issue. Bought them fall 2021 so...

Yup jumped on it

Hifiman he 6 se v2 better than he 1000se

could you compare / listen to both? In what regard are they better? @@pppppppp2146

How you liking it after 6 months?

Nothing is impossible but by judging the price drop of HE1000SE model to “only” 2k I guess the next new model will be the new “SE” iteration. Just a wild guess, nothing substantiated by the facts or indications from Hifiman directly. IMHO a wild deal on one of the most detailed/analytical (if that is your thing) HP out there. I have never heard it but I am judging the sound profile by the consesnsus on forums.

Its will be €4k at the absolute minimum. It completes the with LCD5, so its not meant to be accessible to you, its meant to make money.

Question; i have the Arya V2’s, and it’s been my daily (alongside Bathys for on-the-go) driver for 2 years now. Would it be worth “upgrading” to the organic? For reference, i have ZERO issues with my Arya’s. I DO wish they took well to rock music, which is what the Bathys excels in, but other than that, i wouldn’t change a thing. Do you think the organic would be worth it?

@@doyoulikecrystalgel No I would say there is no reason to upgrade to Organic, if anything I would rather play around with EQ to find a good sound for rock.

Did you mean Organic brighter than stealth.. And causes harsh ?? Because I am somewhat sensitive to treble

@@mohammedbazhair2000 Yes they are brighter then stealth. For me personally it wasn't harsh, but I could see it being to harsh for other people especially if you are sensitive to high treble.

exectly the comment i was looking for, what metal are you listening to? any prog metal? or prog rock?

honestly when i heard organic i thought maybe they finally lowered the treble level but guess not

Hahaha loved this comment way more then I should 😂

@@Furbsta my people lol

Sure it’s organic other than it’s nothing organic

gluten free ebola?

Did Resolve ever update us on his HE1k stealth thoughts?

nope@@tylerstravis

Same here....tempted to just buy both (direct from Hifiman and return one before 30day trial). I'm kinda leaning towards HE1000 though because I think it's capable of handling EQ to match the Organics sound signature.

The Organic will not compete with the 1000 Stealth in in-depth comparisons. And the Stealth will not compare to the SE. Stealth does have better tuning than the SE. but once I EQd the SE to the Stealth tuning, it became a headset of absolute zero compromise.

I bought recently the HE1000se and I agree with you that hifiman been doing silent revisions of it. The first time I listen to the Se was around 5 years ago, it was very bright and weird sounding, a couple of years later I bought it and was darker and not as open as the HE1000V2 or stealth, I bought it again recently and finally I found it the best of the he1000 series by far. my end game. yes same system every time, and yes nobody is talking about it.

@@melodygeeks3917 yes I did demo the hekse not long ago and I agree, best he1000 version, but even is way cheaper now I still need to hide from my wife the loss in the bank account in order to buy it

Hifiman > Focal

Focal > Hifiman

@@one-rv2bx lmao keep dreaming. is that why most stores are having Focals like 60% off cause no one is buying them

Focal + Hifiman

Both Focal and Hifiman are shit.

Depends on your age.

Josh Valour is a treble head😂

Josh nailed his review of it.

​@@Vikinguycopium

Josh is a bit weird with his tastes@@Vikinguy

Did you try them out?

Indeed.

Hi, I'm wondering if you have still held on to your Sundaras. I want to say that I have had a great experience with HiFiMAN, where I sent in my used Sundaras to upgrade to the Arya Stealths for $200 off. I know I have effectively retired my Sundaras, but its offering for this trade-up will never be forgotten.

​@Comhead1234 Wow, I just happened to be awake and got this. Thanks for your interest as a fellow headphone enthusiast. What happened was, I watched these guys 182 headphone shootout, not all but just some models I thought I might be interested in. One thing I always thought could be improved upon with the Sundaras was punch and slam. Not all music has it, but where it does I like it to hit hard. These guys have always said Focal was the benchmark for that. So, I watched their section on Focal, all the while fighting to keep an open mind of dynamic driver vs planar, hifiman vs Focal, completely different designs etc. Through the reviews of different models the Elex reviews stuck out to me. Two guys had it an "easy" A tier, and one guy B tier, but could also see it at A. One guy said he preferred them to Utopia their top of the line. So, I went on headphones .com, and they had them on sale, and also open box which put them at about half price as I recall. Had heard good things about buying open box, so I pulled the trigger. When the package arrived everything was pristine. No indication at all that the box had ever been opened, and the headphones themselves were clean as a whistle. The sound itself is fantastic. They check all the boxes for me, whatever the genre. I'll always analyze the music as it's playing, but I really don't analyze the headphones anymore, they perform that well. I don't even think about upgrading anymore. Like all my equipment they did take some time to break in, but not much time at all. The build quality is bulletproof with solid protection of the driver inside and outside.I haven't used my Sundaras in months, but will keep them as a backup. Curious to hear how you like your Arya's. Which version did you get? I bet they sound great. Ps. I see you got the stealth, which is different from organics, right?

Same

ZMFs, even the closed backs, do stage well. The problem is the frequency response is really bizarre and unpalatable to some. I own the zmf verite closed, and there's a big dip in the lower treble, followed by a peak. So somehow they're simultaneously very warm, and very airy (it's not simple to EQ either). The verite isn't similar at all to the Arya; i consider them to be complementary. Also, while their resolution and separation is really impressive for a closed back, the Arya still does it better. So honestly, if you just want something similar to an Arya but not bright, get an Arya and EQ it. As Andrew said, EQing the Arya is really easy, and I can actually give you a preset if you want.

@@nortonfamily6711 yeah but i also keep hearing about Arya and other planars that they favor more classical music genres. I would like some kick with my trance music. I also listen to classical, but not a factor at the moment. They also describe them as bright. As current k712 cans, that i love, stage like crazy, i really dig into that sound. I dont think i can handle closed back. i listen to many hours daily and cloed backs seem to hurt my years in some time, even more if speaker is brighter. I was a big fan (prob still am) of VO as an overall described by reviewers. I have not heard it yet, any ZMFs for that matter, so no point of refference outside youtube. I would really like something lively and stagy, realistic sounding, no tints. And a bit of kick when needed, what Anrew said Arya lacks. There is an option for me to hear some of them soon i hope, but i am prepared to pull the trigger when i decide im hyped enough :D So TLDR, i am torn between HekV2 or Stealth and Arya as almost all that i want but with major drawbacks, or zmf's VO or Atrium, and when i sell my kidney, maybe caldera, who knows D

Youc could alsways EQ these, if you find them too bright1

@@Hansimullerboy i try to avoid EQ-ing. Everything i've EQed, even with Andrew or Crinacle's profiles, it sounds "more harman" but loses all charm that the headphone offers. Maybe its just bad experience but hwo knows. Prefer to get closest to my taste.

@@MartinBaltuhin applying one or two filters to the Arya's treble isn't going to make it lose its charm, trust me.

Personally, I find the use of graphs in reviews a complete turn of. I don’t give a monkeys if there’s a slight dip here or a slight boost there, all that I’m interested in is whether or not a headphone sounds right with my music in my chain. It’s the music that matters to me and the gear is just a means to an end.

It's very subjective. I have XS & Arya Stealth. Technically, the Stealth is better. With better tonal balance and resolution. XS has a bigger soundstage, deeper subs bass, and is more airy. the fit/headband is also better on the Stealth. You have to listen for yourself to decide.

Arya organic is the more definitive overall step up, but it's also the most expensive option.

Just make sure you have a nuclear power plant to drive the Tungsten 😆

@@sjqideez6626 apparently the double magnet version is supposed to be more efficient... But relative to the single magnet version "efficient" may still mean the need for a minor uranium enrichment program.

Maybe the new Topping A70 Pro at $499 will do the trick. It has a 17 Watt Max output

@@Soundoverload wow that's crazy

@@Soundoverload the Cen Grand Silver Fox head amp is rated at 22W into 30 ohms

Just buy a pair and return it after a few days.

In the headphone orchard. They're also free range and grass fed.

@@TheHEADPHONEShow you had better put up some scarecrows to to repel those who gather on the boundaries, waiting for maverick headphones that jump the fence. 🎃

Just because someone loves these headphones doesn't mean they are distrustful. This hobby is subjective and not absolute.

@@SohcSTi What separates a reviewer from a rando just saying what they think is the ability to see the product from more points of view that their own personal one. If a reviewer praises the treble of this headphone without also making it known that it might be too much for a lot of listeners, they haven't made a good review. If they knew but didn't say it, they are distrustful to their audience. If they just aren't well informed enough to know it in the first place, it's distrustful to call their text or video a review.

@@Joelsfilmer Maybe that's the problem. You put "reviewers" on a pedestal. You should consider multiple sources before purchasing. Everyone hears things differently.

​@@SohcSTi Of course one should always compare and contrast opinions, but are you seriously saying we shouldn't expect reviewers to be competent? And it's the fault of the viewer and consumer for not knowing things that many mainstream "reviewers" don't know or don't bother explaining? Making an effort to analyse and judge subjective and objective information from more than one point of view is tier 1 knowledge for anyone calling themselves a reviewer. If they don't do that, then it needs to be super obvious that their opinions come from their own subjective preferences, and nothing else. This isn't rocket science. I honestly find your viewpoint depressing. We can and should expect a modicum of effort from influential people who call themselves reviewers.

nope

I have just done the same 😁 I have had my 6XX for six years and wanted to upgrade. I wanted to try something different, as i have had Sennheiser pretty much all my headphone listening life. Just ordered the Arya Stealth yesterday in a Spring deal in the UK for £599. Just over half the price of the organic, which makes it a very easy choice. can't wait for them to arrive 😁

What's break-in???

@@mohammedbazhair2000 A lie that will literally never die.

Would you like to recommend the brand of your cable?

@@killerra whaat??

@@mohammedbazhair2000 Burn or break in doesn't exist and has never been measured. That is all.

They scale in quality as the price goes. Arya (all of them) are not as resolving as the HE1000 Stealth. And the gap between the Stealth and the SE is even larger than the one between the Stealth and Arya. I’ve had all three. Returned all but the SE. Stealth has the absolute most pleasing and incredible tuning of the three. But not even close to as much clarity as the SE. And the SE takes EQ better than any other headphone I’ve ever used. I settled SE to match the tuning of the Stealth and it became a headphone with zero compromises. It’s own clarity and the best tuning imaginable.

@@SupplyNinja Thanks! I ordered the SE at the end :)

which type of music is for?

@@emanueleasr2859mostly classical, but eventually also some techno

6.6khz and 13khz roughly. The one around 9khz is close to canal entrance resonance and might not actually be a peak.

LCD-X for metal.

Focal Clear

@@ROCKSTAR3291 I own both, they’re both great, but the bass on the LCD-X are next level.

@@Rayman30 the open back or closed version ?

Focal Clear MG

Here you go: the Aryas are a lot more comfortable, have a lot better lows/mids/highs/soundstage/imaging, and are easier to drive. Not sure what else you expect hear tbh

"Can we get a comparison of this sirloin stake next to these 3 day old Wendy's fries."

While I don't own the 109 Pro I demod a pair for several hours. I also demo'd an Arya Organic and then bought a pair. There were no issues with either pair of Arya Organics that I tried or bought. That being said, the build quality of the 109 is a small step ahead. No QC issues with the Arya but for build quality if the 109 is 100% then I'd say the Arya is probably 85 - 90%.

If you can stretch your budget to the Organic, it is the superior headphone in terms of sound quality.

The 109 Pro is like... the most comfortable headphone ever made lmao. But arya stealth and the organic still pretty darn comfy, they're just not the plateau of comfort like Meze has with the 109

That’s a good question. I honestly think it depends a lot on the listener and how sensitive you are to differences in audio reproduction. I upgraded from the Sundara to the He1000 stealth and I’ll be honest at first I wasn’t impressed. To be clear the He1000s sounded good, but at the time I thought “it doesn’t sound all that much better than my Sundaras.” I then decided to give it a couple of weeks and it started to grow on me more and more especially in instrument heavy tracks. I then went back to my Sundaras after a couple of weeks and literally said to myself “Ah, I get it now.” Having used the Sundaras for over 2 years I got used to the sound signature and thought they were an amazing headphone and while they still are for the price, there’s a clear difference between something at that range vs something like a He1000. The way the music is presented in totally different on the two in my experience. The He1000 can do everything the Sundaras can but better. The sound is much more full and engaging, there’s a greater sense of depth and detail. The bass is more prominent and extends better. There’s also more sub bass which makes the experience a lot more satisfying. The instruments that are played in the background sound a lot more natural and less veiled, etc. I payed 4x more for the He1000 than the Sundara and while they don’t sound 4x better, they sound enough better to me that the difference in price was worth it. However, your mileage may vary. You might find that you don’t notice as much of a difference coming from something like the 6xx or you might find that you notice an even bigger difference.

I did this with a ifi zen stack v1 and was pretty impressed, however it is my first headphone in this price range or even close. Going back and forth between the 6xx and the organic was quite dramatic, much more detail within every song I played things sounded a little less in my face and laid back with the highs reaching up close to a point that would be too much but never quite hopping into too much for me personally. Using the xbass feature on the zen dac really made the low end sing as it does, and I also want to point out that the zen stack is generally warmer so it may have tamed the highs slightly. I think this would give you a wow moment compared to the 6xx for sure after listening for a few hours then swapping back to the 6xx.

I mean just from a staging perspective it will blow you away compared to a 6XX. But that also relies on it being a trait you value. Some people maybe don't index for detail as hard as others and so that jump might not matter but things like soundstage size and seperation will be noticable to most people I think.

Well the 6XX sound completely different so it wouldn’t be an upgrade (in details and staging, sure), more like moving to something new. Get ZMF if you want to upgrade.

On a Schiit stack? The improvement should be Night and Day, though the Organics sound quite different, so it may or may not be to your taste.

Use PEQ to your liking, and it's free.

It won’t even be a close contest. The Arya lineup cannot touch the SE. I’ve owned both. The SE is another class of headphones and such a comparison doesn’t make any sense. Just the truth. Especially if you EQ the SE to the 1000 Stealth tuning (best tuning ever IMO). And the 1000 Stealth is a class ahead of the Arya Organic. The Arya lineup is honestly overrated. It’s not on the HE1000 level and I doubt it ever will be.