Narc will get his own npc and quest, gather some copper residue for a alchemist who then makes cop.....ium in a vial, that allows you to breathe in a toxic cave where you are to obtain some epic loot, but it wasn't there for some reason. This is a daily quest that repeats forever.

Patreon: www.patreon.com/CopiumInhaler Yes I once again, had an epic intro however the video ended up being too long to impliment it without this rambling mess being uncomfortably long... So instead, I will be uploading this intro seperately in an extended stand alone video so look out for that coming in a day or 2. Also, come join the discord ya degenerates: discord.gg/muwNp8NhbB

The ending twist was a nice touch. Never cease to amaze us.

I try my very best to curb my hype levels, but this game and everything they do with it just seems to amazing. I really hope they pull it off

I'm becoming more and more convinced with each video that Narc is a low-key Pantheon fan. Who else only found out Pantheon exists because of Narc? I'm calling it now, his whole channel is going to be a bait-and-switch XD

Ok, boys, I finally became a psychic. I sit here, thinking "hmm, I haven't checked up on Narc for four days straight, I wonder what he is up to..." *Uploaded 31 seconds ago*

Nice ending! I think it will take a lot of testing but I have faith in Steven and the Intrepid team. Keep the copium flowing!!!

So, regarding the ecology, It sounds like quite the undertaking to get it to function; but it sounds to me like a good system to force people to spread out over the world. Not stick to the most convinient place where most materials are abundant. We'll see how it actually plays out during Alpha.

Yes I'm a washed up 50 year old, Ultima Online was my first MMO. I didn't even know it had a system like that. Thanks for Sharing.

Yeah already washed up and in my 50s, i was a beta tester for DAoC, so i never got into UO. But i enjoy the small things in games. A working ecology is something that would fascinate me and make the game feel that much more engaging.

i know how things went for ultima but personally i feel that flat out, if ashes succeeds than EVERY mmorpg going forward will NEED this simply because a dynamic world that reacts to what the players do rather than what new rollercoasters the devs add is EXACTLY how a true mmorpg should work as the whole point of mmos is to be a experience you have with your fellow community members and the entire story of the world is supposed to be written by the players and what interactions they have with eachother on all levels from a few guys making a solid dungeon run group together and become friends to massive guild conflicts that flat out, play out like real wars as caravans get hit to inhibit the flow of resources to enemies and enrich your own side and stratigic points of conflit get taken up as the guilds conflict goes on. really like ashes will be the first mmorpg with a world like this but i feel that really, this is what the standard always shoulda been.

Love your vids narc, i also love the length of them, 15-20 minutes is great, mostly watching them while eating my lunch, keep it up!

I think Ecology system is good on paper but needs a lot of constraints to be available on a large population like the MMO crowd. Most people don't care about overfarming even if it is to their own detriment, like drying up their land of resources and create an imbalance in the ecosystem, because they want to simply do it without repercussions. I speak from personal experience that a lot of people I've played alongside in MMOs I've played don't care or want consequences of them playing a game because they want to do something, they'll do it and "future me" will deal with it eventually. When faced with a game like Ashes which has consequences (like having to travel to another node and risk being attacked to have resources stolen) they'll blame the game's design not suiting their needs and wants, it's not their fault because it's the game that was designed wrong, not the player's fault for making wrong choices. I'm sure Steven has great ideas and can pull a sustainable ecosystem with enough testing but I fear that without a firm stance and a good explanation on how it works, a bunch of people will just cry "the game didn't stop me from crashing at full speed on a wall" despite being told that you'll hurt yourself doing so. I might be pessimistic but that's what my experience playing with people has been so far.

I hope this system, if it is fully implemented, is highly transparent. I want the player base to be able to see these "land scores" and how they're affecting them. While I agree it would be immersive as hell to have to look around, without these scores being visible to players I doubt the average player will realize it exists. Like Narc said, out of sight out of mind. It would also be a form of reward to know that you're actually having a positive (or negative) impact if you're striving for one. Having this system tied into the world events is brilliant, but if it's going to be a big impact full system you and your nodemates need to know where the lines in the sand are so you don't go too far and screw your node up unintentionally.

Heeey ... i am in my 30`s. I played a lot of UO but never knew this system existed. Great Video.

nice twist at the end!

Lets go copium gang.

Ecology. What Steven describes sounds interesting but it will depend on the systems we have to manage the environment. Do I know how many trees I can cut down before I have an impact? If I’m a mayor and I want to halt all lumberjacking in a mode to allow the environment to recover, what can I do? Etc. Otherwise the metropolis nodes will always look like a landfill and the healthy nodes will be the ones farthest away, which will already happen with simply having it take so long for resources to grow back.

Keep the copium flowing Narc. Love your content :)

I loved UO before they screwed up pvp. I remember starting a new character and getting my ass kicked by rats, deer, even the birds lol. Just running from one town to another was exciting, never knowing if some pk was waiting to ambush me. I have never been good at pvp but I still love it for the excitement it creates. And yes we killed everything for the meat, hides, feathers, and any xp we could get to level up.

I just wanted to say how much I fucking love hearing the Valheim OST in every video. Its so good

Players knew about the UO ecology. It was a selling point. Man that game was rough though. Full-loot anytime PvP from day 1, until they broke out some "carebear" shards where PvP only took place between factions. Siege Perilous was still hardcore though. Yes, I'm one of the old guys. Not 50 yet though lol.

Love your vidoes. I look forward to the next one every week

Damn straight we are going balls to the walls trying to brake shit.

"Doctor accused of killing wife" tf keekk

Excellent vid Narc - really well explained. I'd play your MMO......

Do I need ecology? No. Do I want ecology? Yes. I want the system to make sense, to work, to be well designed. I have high hopes ecology will be worth the investment.

Ahh my daily dose of copium I really needed the hit man thanks lol

I think people bashing the system are just fools. Let Ashes just try it. If they fail, then they learn something, fix it, and move on. Woop de freaking doo. I'm just happy that Ashes is trying so many things. Most games nowadays play it so safe that they all feel the same.

It is a important system for me to also make the world in the long run interesting. But that this work we also need a system that will never be fully understood by the players or they again will find a way to miss use it and break the game.

Thanks for the video. I hope they can pull it off. Cannot wait to see how alpha 2 goes.

If they could implement migrating npc types I'd be super impressed. Imagine a node having wolves around it and quests to kill them and you can forage their pelts for crafting. At update node times, if enough quests to kill wolves are achieved they disappear from that node. Then another nearby node that also migrated another npc can adopt those wolves. And if a node becomes more civilised, less wild animals spawn on nearby nodes... this ofc is just awesome on paper.

The herbivore genocide problem is easy to solve: Ownership of land, it becomes a metagame of poachers and gamekeepers.

Narc getting the bag just rewording the ars technica video 😂

UO "economy" was so broken that by three years after the Fel/Tram server splits I traded the, by then, "super rare", "a rug" to a player for a Fel Castle on Great Lakes. Had millions in gold and 397 "a rug"s left when I quit for good. LOL And I am a washed up gamer in my 50's, but it's all good, my darling wife says I clean up well.

Nice Video as Alwayse thank you buddy :D

Ultima... makes me feel old... why are you doing this to us? Now than I think I may die, come back to live and still wait for AoC to release and watch your videos... if you haven't died from old age.

As someone who has taken part in a number of MMO Alfa and Beta tests ... including Ultima Online that had its first Alfa in 1995 and 8 month Beta in 1996 that rolled into the 1997 launch did any good to solve the problems of a games system that could not keep up to the players desire to level there skills and pillage the game of resources. The living world mechanics just got in the way of what players enjoyed the most ... progression. On one hand you had a game world trying to balance scarcity of resources with a living world system no one gave a shit about and on the other hand you had 350 thousand players frustrated they had nothing to chop, pick, mine or hit with their wooden sword to train there skill up.

Defo not saying that Ashes won't be a success , on the contrary , it will revolutionise the genre . But what worries me the most is this , the dynamic world . Yes , in today's mmorpgs ,doesn't matter which game , the open world doesn't feel alive and meaningful . FF14,Runescape,WoW,Lost Ark , even GW2 becomes a hub fiesta at some point . And it's sad . But on the other hand , when i want to go kill beasts and skin them for their leather , i want to go to area X fully knowing that the beasts will be there . When i want to gather resources of any kind , i want to go to area Y fully knowing that the resources will be there . The only thing i accept is having competition for these resources even if it means PvP . Seasons , weather etc should only affect immersion , not our ability to gather resources . And resources depleting if players play/gather/kill too much , may add realism but it's a big nono for me . The number one design pillar of game development is respecting the player's time . And this dynamic world achieves the exact opposite

I "played" UO back in the day. I just ran around killing stuff in the low level areas on my Dads account. Later my Aunt got him (and thus me) into WoW.

Land management system is not mandatory, but nice to have

Haha that ending was great.

I was actually super excited when they revealed this system. I would absolutely enjoy protecting "my" land in order to keep it healthy/productive. It's potentially worrisome that your area could be over run by a powerful faction and completely devastated, it will be interesting to see how they deal with that.

I heard Ultima online had this and got rid of it after players just genocided absolutely every living thing, which didn't give the game any time to actually do the thing. ... I say exactly 15 second before Narc brings it up.

I do love the gathering on display, but I feel like the animations on chopping the tree's lack "weight" when the character is hitting it with the axe. The tree physics are top notch tho 👌

Gotta say, wasn't expecting that ending this time lol.

100% want to find all the exploits in Alpha 2.

*Outstanding!*

Yo narc, you're not obligate to spam videos if you feel you can't, long videos like this are cool too :)

Bot resource wars will be fun. It will basically be a ddos on certain areas or regions environment.

I subscribed due to talking favourably about Ultima Online.

Imo, a true "PvE Sandbox" is the holy grail of MMO design. Get even parts of it right and it will be amazing.

This video fills my cope for Ashes... when ashes releases, what will fill my cope for these videos?

Farm the hell out of the zone then sell the mats in the off season when the materials are scarce will be the default way to make gold. If anyone else sells the same mats you buy it up and mark the price to 20% greater than market value. If your one of the only suppliers people will buy it.

Ashes of creation's organic approach was the original concept for warhammer online. Shame it got shat out as age of reckoning, rather than what AoC is attempting.

my favourite royal copious bald lord

If over farming meant they run out of resources, they would have learned real fast how not to run out of resources. What can be cheesed will be cheesed though. Alas, 'PvE' game did indeed under estimate human predators. Of course, the best way to defeat human predators, is with human predators ;) Failing that, the NPC AI could have their own bounty system too. Which is what they kind of have in a round about and less targetted, player punishment way.

Found aoc after a game I followed for almost 2yrs decided to change their 2021 release for a unknown release date. My experience with that game thought me to manage my hype and expectations, to not over analyze and speculate that’s why I like your channel, it’s not over the top with what you think is possible for aoc and that’s great cause you’re the only one I consume aoc content from.

Life is Feudal definitely tried to give you a living, breathing world as well... Unfortunately players cut down every tree and did not plant more other than behind walls.

Bro Ultima was the shit, started when I was 8 or 9 and that was the hook. I never stopped playing MMOs and never got the same feeling or enjoyment from another game. 1999 was the shit lol

The creatures let you level your skills.

Fake Pizzabox wall? I'm disappointed... he cleaned his lair

I miss old school Ultima Online. Killing people and taking everything they had on them. Stealthing outside their house, stealth walking inside as they entered, killing them and looting their home. Good times. Then they added loot safety and created Trammel with no open PvP. Sad times.

UO now there's a throw back, sadly still the best mmo ever made. Every mmo after it shipped with less content.

it's cool that everything changes around us, static worlds are boring and in the long wrong we train ourselves into ignoring all static stuff... but if things are always changing we will be always paying attention and being surprised

Hmm, I wonder if a certain post of mine on AoC's subreddit about this very thing in UO had prompted this video or if it is just another one of my newly acquired psychic powers.

as an OG UO player... /BONKS NARC! I aint washed up...OR 50!

An ecology system might work better if, when it's put out of balance by players, it's put back into balance in a dramatic way. A real life example would be the dust bowl phenomenon that happened during the great depression.

Honestly I've loved games that has somewhat of an eco system. I do believe it gives off a certain polished vibe, knowing that the game is alive in a sense. (As long as I don't age and die and have to restart). I just hope certain aspects aren't too complicated. To make a legendary weapon or something... To have to wait for a certain season, I can see that. To have to wait for season... day time, maybe. To have to wait for season, day time, and control of node... idk Just to farm and craft certain things. If it is that hard to get things I really hope it is worth the time. I can see things getting out of hand with it. Hopefully it don't end up taking too much more time for that and the community isn't always straight up bloodlust.

BDO have something like this for node system, but because balance, is not important that much.

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Ark has the best current ecological system in a game right now. I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned over GW2

UO ha d a good system for skillng player stats thru gathering and crafting

In f2p old school runescape players are still massacring cows everyday for theor hides which is used in low level f2p crafting

Star Citizen ist MMO and it is tested since 2015 (circa) for everyone.. and most open development ..

Oh come on, you can go and overfarm your neighbors and they can't do shit without going red and getting dispatched with ease. It's going to be a Neverending Grief Spiral. Endless Emberhearding. And mind it, I'm pro free PvP. I would be 1000% fine with receiving more damage the more corrupt I become, as long as I also DO more damage. Like a beast, like a rabid dog! As of now? How can I play a bandit and rob and kill peasants if I'm getting weaker with every peasant killed?

The only solution seems to be that all the animals should be a threat.

You are looking better my man, I hope you are doing better champ Looking forward to more bullshit content coming from you :)

cant wait to plant a mint in my garden only for it to choke my other plants to death 👍 but heres my take on your question: I personally love when games have features that are not presented in game directly to you, the feature in question is the ecology system. I always have better memories of games that had systems like these in their games f.e. arx fatalis with its cooking and magic systems, FEAR with their communicative AI or even Alien isolation with their mic detection or the alien learning your habits. Its stuff like this that makes you love the game even if its something that goes actively against the player. Makes the games feel "real" and not 1 and 0s.

Ff14 Andy here. They are called worlds in FF14.

This entire system was originally developed in EverQuest Next. I think the devs that came from that project had a lot to do with it.

Ultima Online? I haven't heard that name in years.

I'm waiting for the quest to gather resources to help fund patheon

Plus the world is never big enough. So the rabbits never survive long enough to bring wolves and finally dragons

Hopefully the Ashes Team can pull off what EverQuest Next failed to do.

It'd be nice for you to take another swipe at asmon's shitty takes regarding pvp--drama = big ad revenue 'all pvp mmos are dead/dying' -- all mmos are dead'dying, also eve/runescape are/were great games, albion online has a steady population / growing currently

Guna say it now. Building systems that players have controll over that have 0 real world consequences won't work. Players will ruin the world ecology and not give a poop about maintaining it. And those who do try to fix/maintain it will quickly learn that other players will sit around. Wait for others to fix it then swoop in and steel the reward of the work ruining it again in the process. NW is a great example of this. It will be a poop show.

We should mass report every ashes guide

So... When does this game come out?

Could u turn up the volume on ur vids by like 20%? Its slightly low atm

You have to use the gender neutral "boiz" when you say "Hello, boys!" or else I feel super excluded

Can anyone play in alpha 2?

Another amazing video ❤️

Always enjoy the videos mate. Keep it up. :D

I'm pretty sure the surveying and land management systems are brand new and never before discussed. They may in the spirit of the game and its other systems but they are new. Is it scope creep? Depends on how you define it.

Have you checked out Pantheon lately?

will you cover the incoming new coming from ArcheAge II next week ?

Star Wars Galaxies had an amazing economy IMO... then they turned the game into a WoW clone and it died.... RIP SWG