Ya spot on, not once did she mis-gender Fallon, but I think it's important to hear these perspectives from actual professionals themselves who fight in the sport.

Agreed. Nothing she said was wrong and she handled it really well. The fact that she didn't once misgender Fallon makes me respect her that much more.

@@GlennDavey "misgender" stfu

True yes, except calling Fallon "HER" and that's a natural fact.

except when she called fallon a "she" that wasnt true..

Connor McAsshole, should learn from her.

+Geraldine F I'm sorry but that was the dumbest example. how can you compare being black vs being a transgender. Fallon was born a man. grew up as one too. so since Fallon took some pills and got surgery. it's ok for Fallon to fight and beat up woman because he looks like one now? just like this woman said, it's advantage for Fallon to fight against woman. you think a transgender woman can survive playing in the NFl, or UFC against men? you can say whatever you want. A man has more of a an unfair advantage over a woman in contact sports. if I bleach my skin, am I white person?

Geraldine F What are you talking about? I think your confused. I never said there was anything wrong with a transgender person. What a person do with their lives, is them. But I have a problem with a man fighting a woman. I love Ronda but she a woman and only needs to fight a woman. We know, she's not unstoppable because holly gave her a beaten. Are you saying men and women should be in the same division fighting each other?

Mike Tank Brown ll theyre retards theyre irrational they think theyre real women they will never understand

@@peloraserpentine6055 not a woman never will be. can i hit a female that thinks shes a male?

@@tank100286 dude the lgbt community had nothing to do with this crazy shit

YES

Yes!

Exactly!!!!

Yes

No

There would only be 2 people on that roster at most

@@braveinternetguy oh well

No they should be allowed to be whatever sex they want to claim but they need to be required to fight their born biological equal.

I think Fallon took the loss personally.... breaking eye sockets and caving in heads of these girls was a bit much and needed to show loss to make it look somewhat even..... I said Fallon was gonna take a loss prior too just because of the heat coming down, I shoulda placed the bet!! Lol

Beat a dickless man! Well done

they did

Just shows they're concerned only about their self-interests, not equality...

Why do they exist on the first place.

@@theautodan7095... just like feminists

Who cares. Women fight women and men fight men. Fox is still a man, not used to be. Stop the nonsense.

She should file a sexual discrimination suit.

Like, my jury has been out on this subject for years, and this is the first pro take I've heard on this that isn't trash. I actually really get it, and it's because she suggested an alternative, she didn't just dismiss the whole thing outright, and she was respectful about it.

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When I look at that fight, I can see & feel , Fallon purposely lost the fight

@Lady Z all good. It's just my opinion. I'm wrong no worries

@Lady Z That's not apples to apples. Jones overtrained for a competition with amateur fighters. Fox won fights purely on her strength advantage. When she came up against someone who nullified that advantage, she had nothing. If Fox had all the same skill and knowledge she had going into this fight but in the body of a biological female, she would never have gotten anywhere near a professional combat sport.

@Lady Z That would be Google.

Bullshit. As a SJUW (social justice ULTIMATE warrior) I present the black widow and hawkeye fight from both Avengers 1 and 4 to disapprove this idiotic statement. Woman can do whatever a man can do including getting a woman pregnant you bigots

Locustmaster15 And she's vegan 😍

Cute too!

Same

She's a villain

@@RyanRoemer8624 A villain ?

Frank Sanders Erika Newsome(a ciswoman[NON TRANSGENDER]) didn't think Fallon Fox had an advantage over her when they fought. Allanna Jones, another cis female WMMA fighter, agreed to fight Fallon Fox regardless of Fallon's transsexual past. Fallon Fox management team withholding information about her gender identity is not lying since medical professionals already proven no such physical advantages exist between transgender and cisgender women.

Imatran ssexualdyke Erika Newsome has a pro record of 0-2, Allanna jones has a pro record of 2-6 (the 2 wins were tomato cans).... combine them and you get 2-8 with a total IQ of 82. The doctors who are involved in sex change operations and therapy have an obvious conflict of interest. If they were actual professionals they'd recuse themselves. Name one other WMMA fighter who demonstrates Fallon's power success? I'm an expert on WMMA and I cannot. The closest I could come would be Sara McMann - who did deliver an orbital bone fracture to Miesha Tate. Sara is an Olympic Silver medalist in wrestling and considered the strongest woman in MMA by many. Or "Cyborg" Justino, a known steroid abuser - who looks more like a man than Fallon does. Sara is 34, Cyborg is 30. Both are considered world class athletes and among the best in their sport. Fox is not considered to be that level of athlete or martial artist. And Fox is 39 - ancient in combat sports terms. Is the simple and obvious answer that Fox demonstrates KO power and bone breaking blows that she is a male fighting females? Or is it an athletic anomaly that is purely coincidental to her transgender status - that a relatively unaccomplished athlete and mediocre martial artist well past prime age exhibits these strange results?? The answer is, of course, obvious to any expert with no "axe to grind" or "horse in the race". Your own screen name tells me all I need to know about your bias.... But that is ok since you will wrongly assume my opinion is based on hatred of transgenders. Go ahead and call me a bigot, a sexist, a racist, etc. That is the argument of the intellectually inferior.

That's called excuses and being a poor sport. She knew, she fought, she lost, she cried about it. Poor sport.

bgfishing Unless you have actual knowledge of WMMA and realize that this is not the only example of the advantage Fox has had.

Frank Sanders The athletic commission, the Olympics, most medical professionals and scientific research states that this is legal due to no real proof of any advantage. That's enough for me. And probably a Lil more reliable info than youtube posters.

I was wondering did anyone else caught that :p

I had to listen to it 3 times. I'm like WHAT THE FUCK, ASHLEY? Maybe she meant to say no more 145lb fights? 🤷🏼‍♀️

For her career.

This aged well. Man I wish I could have given you a fare warning to just what we have become in 4 short years.

@ge2719 Corect!

"...athletic performance appears to depend less on height than on physiological and even psychological factors....Thus, insofar as team success in volleyball is concerned, there would appear to be factors more critical to individual performance and team success than average player height." Reeser, J C. "Gender identity and sport: is the playing field level?" Br J Sports Med 2005;39:695-699

Imatran ssexualdyke - you’re an IDIOT!!!! a proper weak minded, brainwashed idiot. The fact you feel so strongly about something that is so obviously not true makes me embarrassed for you when reading your replies. It’s astounding how closed minded some of you lot are.

The fact they can tell if a 5000 year old skeleton is either male or female without the flesh or muscle, says it all really. When my daughter was about 10 she played sport at school, with another 10 year old trans girl. They looked the same height weight and size, even though the trans girl had not been through puberty (or was just starting it) that kid beat every race and was leader in all sports at that school - way above all the girls. Fallon would be destroyed fighting against men, but definitely has a very unfair advantage against women, no matter how many hormones she has

The bone structure does NOT change. No matter what people take. They shouldn't even call it a sex change. A transition makes more sense.

@@lilkingg82 Correct. What does change somewhat is bone density, which is what I should have said. The bone structure is what gives leverage, and that's the biggest factor in punching power. There's just so many genetic advantages for males, no amount of hormone therapy is going to completely eliminate them.

@@peloraserpentine6055 You can't change your ethnicity, age, DNA or gender. Work with what you have you freak. We live in a world where 40 year old men "identify" with being a 5 year old girl. A man won woman of the year. I'm not a bigot, I'm a realist. Enough is enough. We need to go by facts, not feelings.

Pelora is a crazy hater

SuperVince93 yes and thats very clear by reading her response. Like woww. Raging lunatic much?

@@sd3864 Yup. lol

It 2019 noones gives a fuck America is on the bridge of dyeing

Exactly. It was so satisfying to see ashlee bet that manbitch.

Get out of the stone ages dick head

@Papwithanhatchet fallon is still a man no matter what surgery he gets.

@Papwithanhatchet the bone structure will tell he was a mam

Gerard Robert get in the real world you wk

Plus back and shoulders are larger and that is where the power comes from as well

And denser bones, faster reaction times, an arguably more sport-oriented metabolism. Men also have a roughly 60% greater upper body strength and 50% greater lower body strength on average, but the scariest thing is that men have a more than 100% greater striking power.

is this comment serious?

@EntwinedRoses I'm being facetious. Adjuster's comment connoted that this woman was not intelligent simply because of her views. I agree with everything she says.

@@gutsandcasc nah I think it’s more about how our average idea of how a fighter talks is slow or slurred which is not really incorrect as cte is a real problem

Cooley High yeah man she's wicked, she did unbelievably well to beat Fallon dog but did you see the lumps on her face from being punched by a man? it's disgusting! Ashley won and I'm so.glad she did but she's right in what she's saying.

A&R Pressure Washing Gorgeous👧

She is pretty hot!

A&R Pressure Washing yeah, coz she's a real girl

you know it (pun totally intended, you know?)

ITS NOT UNFAIR STRENGTH ITS CALLED TRAINING HARDER

@@user-md7un1yp7s It's called having a biologically male body.

@@user-md7un1yp7s No it isn't, it's just a man beating up ladies.

@@user-md7un1yp7s LOL

HAHAHAHAH omg.... brock lesnar as transgender. What a sight that would be...

keggerous After 2 years of HRT, And Anti Androgen tablets, Brock Lesner, would loose all his muscle mass and either become fat from all the loss of muscle or if he trained he would become tall and skinny and look like any other female of his hight. I know you want to hate Fox, because your Transphobic, so it easy to try back it up with facts rather than looking at yourself and seeing that maybe your being utterly unfair on someone who has just followed her dreams. She was never a man, Her brain was always female from day one, she had disability and she had change her body to fit with her brain or let me guess your one these people think she should have her brain fixed to be like a man. So what your really saying is that anyone born with physical disability should not be allowed compete in "Normal" sports even if they are perfect capable. Your just transphobic, anti disabled and just horrible person who would rather hurt someone feelings than spend 10mins trying understand them, let me guess from the US, cause you sound that dumb.

kitten takara Fallon still has a lot of muscle mass. looking at her body it almost seems as if she has the form of a female body builder, minus the hips. female fighters that have fought her have come out and said she is stronger than any female they have fought and also have said they don't think she should compete. Apparently you know better than the ppl that have person experience fighting her. You're assumption that all muscle mass would be shed is false. also your accusation that I want to hate Fallon is also false. I have absolutely nothing against Fallon, im simply for women's rights to compete without men worming their way into their sport. And no, I didn't say that ppl with disabilities can't compete . . . that's what you said and only you. If a MAN has one leg .. . there is nothing stopping him from competing against other MEN! Nothing stopped Fallon from fighting other genetic males. nothing at all .. . Now do you understand or are you gunna name call again and make accusations like a typical fool?

I am going say, you assumption that Fallon is man are utterly wrong and Transphobic. I am also going say you still not bothered reading Olympic committee research on Transgender athlete's. Not to mention you insistence on continuing to call Fallen a man, shows you have absolutely no respect for her. Do even have clue how deeply insulting calling any Transgender person the wrong gender and pain and hurt that cause, of course not because your expect on all transgender matters. So my accusations that you hate Fallon are based on fact, because all you have done has gender policed her, (something I bet you know nothing about) and continue to insult her and something she could not help. I bet you think being Transgender person is choice. Just shows your ignorance, and if you did not have hate someone, then why not show them respect and do little research into topic before spouting your hate.

I'm a 7 foot black NBA millionaire trapped inside a poor white mans body. I never chose to be this way!

Why shouldn't there be a transgender league? Explain these. So instead of having their own competitive outlet; stick them in the ring with biological women? You don't think that will bring MORE negative attention to the LGBTQSRKOL community? The most harmful attention you can possibly BRING to transgenders is letting them beat the hell out of actual women in a ring for money. Was this comment serious?

At least you are not transphobic like the majority of people

telali31 Disliking them for no reason other than they being who they are is called transphobia. If a transwoman looks like a woman, is demanding to use the restroom for women a special right? Or finding a job without getting discriminated? You seem to know very little about life and other peoples realities.

Phobia = "an extreme or irrational FEAR of or aversion to something", disliking does not automatically mean fear or aversion, and if people would act only based on someone being trans, it's discrimination, not phobia.

It's 2019 now, and I hope you've learned that trans people are real people too.

@@gloomysunday8242 Exactly, we need to educate parents that when a transwoman goes into the restroom, it's okay that their daughters are there too, regardless of whether the transwoman has a penis.

😂😂😂ikr

Sure there are some idiots pushing for that because of equality.... Women would probably be fine considering the NFL is turning into 2 hand touch.

They would continually flag people for unnecessary roughness....

Global Mixed Gender Basketball Association. Look it up.

as long as the women say they are men then game on say the libtards.

Its not just combat sports. Its every other sports. Transgender women will always have advantages over other female athletes in any other sports.

​@@secrets.295 not true. Chess being a sport says otherwise.

"Fox can give and take harder blows than any woman".... Double entendre, anyone???

Really? well aren't you a smart cookie?! I thought we were all EQUAL? why are my sisters losing in all sports to men like fallon fox? even without his god given testosterone he's killing it! and most these actual women athletes? We know they take roids etc.... hopefully these dudes go and start taking the scholarships and all womens competitions? then we can have our mothers and wives back to normal and see an end to broken homes and billions of fatherless criminals, identity confused retards? hope she lands the knee like MVP? FALLON FOX< FALLON FOX FALLON FOX lol hahaha.

@@parasuparasu-ki9gb lol they have drug testing

@@parasuparasu-ki9gb lol okay that's exactly why the DC vs Jones fight was a no contest then right?

@@parasuparasu-ki9gb lol they dont profess to be clean they just haven't skipped or failed a drug test. USADA is 3rd party and does testing around the world, they are trustworthy.

+Reginald Lee Fuck ya she did lol. Now get fallon the fuck out of this shit

+Reginald Lee Out of HIM. And good for her.

+Reginald Lee He likely threw the match, it was quite apparent at the end of the 1st round when he had her in a lock. I'd be interested to see betting patterns on that one.

Jules Freis Uhh...it's more common for fighters to get put into locks and escape them than it is for fights to end do to locks.

periechontology Of course, but I'm referring specifically to the situation at the end of 1st round. I saw some restraint there but I guess its open for interpretation.

@manstein himmler her opponent got a sex change her opponent was a man beforehand

There is nothing wrong with Fallon having a sex change and wanting to be referred to as a woman.Her fighting women is a different story because she has an advantage.

Edward Yoon Men have bigger hands which makes punches have a lot more impact because of greater surface area.The greater the surface area the greater the transfer of impact.The hand size does not go away with a sex change.Also men have a 10% faster reaction time which also does not go away with a sex change

Ed Yoon Are you a dude that got his dong chopped off like Fox?

Tyson Regal why does she have an advantage tho? Cause it’s a FREAKIN GUY stop nitpicking ur either all in or against it.

Because Millennials will destroy her career if she says otherwise.... sad but true

Yeah... And Jenna Talackova shouldn't be allowed to be Miss Universe either, right? Whether you like it of not, there is a level playing field as competitive ethics organizations continue to find "no significant advantage" to being trans. It's legal because not everyone is as ignorant as you. Especially not in the professional world where they have professional doctors and scientists to investigate "issues" like these.

What you're saying is absolutely false. A lot of people have already answered your claims. Fox had testosterone coursing through his body since puberty until he started hrt, the testosterone doesn't just vanish away. People commenting here have already explained this. Women's sports should remain women only, and not accessible to men who say they want to be women. Evans was clear that the dude was out of shape but his punches still rattled her. That's because he's a dude and his body is built differently. Read a biology book. Even though Evans won, she did the interview to clear the fact that she in no way condones biological males competing in women's sports. Got it? That's a woman who fought the dude, are you going to deny her experience? Is her experience of the guy's punches 'ignorant' as well?

Retziel Crimson Which part? Is she not legally, medically Female? Was she not cleared to fight by the Association of Boxing Commissions? Does testosterone not have a half life of 4.5 days? Sorry, but whether you like it or not, that's a biological Female by inductive reasoning through qualitative and quantitative analysis of her sex characteristics, as determined by medicine (the field of applied biology). Read a biology book, but be careful: higher order thinking isn't for everyone. ;) And yes, I am going to deny it because it's contradictory. Says she's weak on the ground, says her standing hits are super strong. Newsflash: strength of muscle tension doesn't magically change from standing to sitting. Heuristics, a major fail.

Death2Evil He is a he!

Kelly Gibson Then I suggest you write your congressman to complain about how your opinion should trump law and medicine. :P

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.

That's just extra steps. All the cat has to do is relate to being a biscuit No oven needed

I am glad to know that there are some people who are not gullible. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you wrote. Sadly we are in the minority on this.